PhoenixRising
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You aren't wrong. My only point is, if you bite back with a Scorp like this one, what is the likelihood you will get what you want? Or visa versa with a Crab? Pride, ego, sensitivity will prevent the person from hearing what is trying to be said. A person can draw a line and still leave the bridge intact. However, if the goal is to simply to burn a bridge down, then have at it. Give her what she deserves.
*To be very clear, I am not suggesting that he hasn't been hurt by her actions or his feeling are less important.
Posted by LetltB
My read on this, is the shell has been cracked after time from repeatedly being stepped on, and like any normal human being, you throw stones at a dog long enough, he's gonna bite back. He's not biting back..he loves her, but recognizes that it's starting to hurt...alot. Human nature.
You aren't wrong. My only point is, if you bite back with a Scorp like this one, what is the likelihood you will get what you want? Or visa versa with a Crab? Pride, ego, sensitivity will prevent the person from hearing what is trying to be said. A person can draw a line and still leave the bridge intact. However, if the goal is to simply to burn a bridge down, then have at it. Give her what she deserves.
*To be very clear, I am not suggesting that he hasn't been hurt by her actions or his feeling are less important.
Posted by PhoenixRising
So explain this, if he was given the advice to "walk away", "leave her alone", "tell her you're done" (all paraphrased), but he is more focused on how she will respond and "what she deserves", does that not sound like something other than simply trying to end things? It's quite passive actually because he wants something from her, yet he was making it seem like he does not:
Posted by cancerwithfire
How would she act if I told her she cannot have me no matter what she says? Can scorpio woman hand rejection...
Yet, you yourself confirmed that he wants something different from what he post here^^^.
My posts were focused on what he was trying to present (as I stated above) vs what was really going on for him. She's been playing games, yes. But he allowed it to continue. This was the only point I was trying to highlight. So call her on her sh*t of course, but there is no need to give her what she "deserves" (aka stick it to her) as though she alone created this dynamic. She wasn't the only one playing this game. Every time he allowed her back in, he was participating. Knowing who she was and what she was/is capable of.
There is a way to be civil and cut ties and let her stew and get herself together without being petty. We see it with Stingers too. Trying to control or manipulate a situation and it doesn't work out so they get into a tizzy about it because they are hurt.click to expand
Whew..you have successfully confused my point, which I tried to make pretty clear..however after reading what you wrote. I'll answer this one since I have time.
He admits he allowed this shit to go on. He also admits he's tired of allowing her to come and go as she pleases. Call it a learning lesson??... Women in dxp bitch about this every single day. We tell them to move on, and end it. I don't know only he can answer whether or no he's learned from it. He's putting a stop to it. So I'm assuming that's the case? He wanted to know how she will react to it I believe in hoping that she will see he's not going to be her doormat anymore, and if she has true feelings for him, and if she will come around after cutting her off..while commanding respect of his feelings toward her that he shared.
I gave him advice that it has to be BLACK AND WHITE to let her know a casual fuck here and there or conversation on her terms is not acceptable any more. Especially since he's laid his heart on the line and told her exactly what he wants. He can fuck her every day, chat when she feels like it, but that's not all he wants. So my advice is to STOP IT. He wants the whole package. He's given her that choice. Nothing passive about that at all nor is it petty. The behavior he's allowed has been passive and petty. The only thing he is controlling is getting her to shit or get off the pot. ie..Either you want me and the full package or not. Pretty simple. How is that spiteful? He's laid his cards on the table..ALL OF THEM, he's telling her this half way passive shit isn't happening anymore, and he's being vulnerable to the outcome. How is that a bad thing? How can putting negative behavior on both parts to an end be so horrible?
BTW..there's nothing about whose wrong or right here, it's plain old common sense. I gave the guy direct advice, some of you stingers didn't like it. I don't listen to the thought police, I listen to what the OP is trying to achieve. He wants this woman in his life, and he wants the grey lizard behavior to STOP. In order to do that he has to stop allowing that behavior to happen.
BTW..there's nothing about whose wrong or right here, it's plain old common sense. I gave the guy direct advice, some of you stingers didn't like it. I don't listen to the thought police, I listen to what the OP is trying to achieve. He wants this woman in his life, and he wants the grey lizard behavior to STOP. In order to do that he has to stop allowing that behavior to happen.
Posted by LetltB
Whew..you have successfully confused my point, which I tried to make pretty clear..
No, I understood you just fine. I was simply explaining the meaning behind my post, not refuting yours. Either way, I'll leave it there. As I stated, I wasn't disagreeing with much of what you posted. You have your way of delivering your message, as do I.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I figured you'd show up.
Posted by bananaonionjuice
I still used her as a booty call then iced her out.
and this ^^^^^^^^^^ is when both parties decide to be complete immature asshats.
what would expect from anyone? not just a scorpio woman.
it takes two to tango.
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Elle...just because you have many, many, many accounts here doesn't mean everyone else does.
Posted by PhoenixRisingYou have your way of delivering your message, as do I.
Agreed...and to think Merc is direct 😱
Did you drink that poison yet elle? Cuz I'm still here with a happy heart beat...
Let me tell you.
If I was told to my face that I cant have the one I want, I will not care.
Sure, it will majorly kick my self-esteem down and confidence as well, but I will probably start stalking them and like them even more. Then I will feel depressed. Then I will just continue to watch them, stare at them, get jealous... yeah, it can be self-destructive indeed. That would probably destroy me.
It happened before... this girl told my crush that I like him! Of course, he rejected. After that I started liking him even more. 😄 I was devastated and embarrassed.
Sorry if that sounds creepy but I am just being honest.
You are a cancer, so I thought you guys liked being pursued? Or do you just not like this girl at all?
If I was told to my face that I cant have the one I want, I will not care.
Sure, it will majorly kick my self-esteem down and confidence as well, but I will probably start stalking them and like them even more. Then I will feel depressed. Then I will just continue to watch them, stare at them, get jealous... yeah, it can be self-destructive indeed. That would probably destroy me.
It happened before... this girl told my crush that I like him! Of course, he rejected. After that I started liking him even more. 😄 I was devastated and embarrassed.
Sorry if that sounds creepy but I am just being honest.
You are a cancer, so I thought you guys liked being pursued? Or do you just not like this girl at all?
Posted by LetltBPosted by PhoenixRising
So explain this, if he was given the advice to "walk away", "leave her alone", "tell her you're done" (all paraphrased), but he is more focused on how she will respond and "what she deserves", does that not sound like something other than simply trying to end things? It's quite passive actually because he wants something from her, yet he was making it seem like he does not:
Posted by cancerwithfire
How would she act if I told her she cannot have me no matter what she says? Can scorpio woman hand rejection...
Yet, you yourself confirmed that he wants something different from what he post here^^^.
My posts were focused on what he was trying to present (as I stated above) vs what was really going on for him. She's been playing games, yes. But he allowed it to continue. This was the only point I was trying to highlight. So call her on her sh*t of course, but there is no need to give her what she "deserves" (aka stick it to her) as though she alone created this dynamic. She wasn't the only one playing this game. Every time he allowed her back in, he was participating. Knowing who she was and what she was/is capable of.
There is a way to be civil and cut ties and let her stew and get herself together without being petty. We see it with Stingers too. Trying to control or manipulate a situation and it doesn't work out so they get into a tizzy about it because they are hurt.click to expand
Whew..you have successfully confused my point, which I tried to make pretty clear..however after reading what you wrote. I'll answer this one since I have time.
He admits he allowed this shit to go on. He also admits he's tired of allowing her to come and go as she pleases. Call it a learning lesson??... Women in dxp bitch about this every single day. We tell them to move on, and end it. I don't know only he can answer whether or no he's learned from it. He's putting a stop to it. So I'm assuming that's the case? He wanted to know how she will react to it I believe in hoping that she will see he's not going to be her doormat anymore, and if she has true feelings for him, and if she will come around after cutting her off..whi
OP, it sounds like you are not being honest about something because there are holes in your story. What that something is, I don't know. It could be that you are not being honest about your feelings for her (you sound very resentful and scorned or maybe in love/obsessive love). Anyone that hacks into people's accounts or sneaks around to get information, finds information about the person, AND THEN doesn't even confront the person about it and pretends that they know nothing of what they found (and is like this for a long period of time) is...a bunch of negative things and really has a good reason as to why they are disrespecting someone's privacy (like love, obsession, psychotic mind, controlling, etc etc etc). It could also be that you are not being honest about who she really is or the type of relationship she and her ex have or you and her had/have. There are many gold diggers these days and true gold diggers know exactly how to get what they want from multiple men...so this means that they get money out of guys and move on to the next one once they are finished sucking the guy dry. They do not slip up and get pregnant by one of these sugar daddy type guys. They are likely to settle down or get pregnant by a guy they truly love, they are likely to actually put money (the money gotten from other guys) into him and their future together. Also if the ex has a dead end job, but the family is rich, this is a deal breaker for a true gold digger (she wouldn't really mess with him because obviously if he has to work a dead end job that means that his parents aren't giving him any money...so basically his parents' wealth doesn't matter to her). They both were/are probably in love and she saw you when she wasn't with him or bored with him.Or? Maybe she truly did like you and was interested in a relationship with you and you rejected her (when she asked if you can be her bf) and moved on with the other dude (where she was sure to receive love back). Also if she is such a terrible person, why did you continue to mess with her (over several years...)? I'm not knocking your information given, I'm just curious about these holes in your story.
Anyhow, to answer your question...If you rejected her in the past already and have an attitude that causes you to want to hurt her feelings or show her that she can't win/have you...and if you think of her as a manipulative, cheating, gold digger liar...and if you guys have been messing with each other for years...I imagine the way you think and feel about her are reflected in the way you treat her and if it does reflect the way you treat her and she continued to mess with you for years, I'd say she was truly in love/deep like with you. Because if you say you never allow her to have her way with you and you also say she's the type to always want and get her way, you guys would seriously clash and she'd be on to the next victim (not lingering around for such a long, long time). Now. If this is all true then I can imagine she has been rejected by you any chance you got and I imagine she was hurt over and over and became emotionally strong because of it. If this is all true, I would say that she wouldn't care if you rejected her or not...she probably has trusted her heart in the hands of the other guy and eventually started using you for sex or whatever the case. So she probably currently doesn't really care about you or her being rejected by you.
Now. If nothing I guessed was accurate and she really is a manipulative bitch, then you shouldn't even bother trying to make her feel rejected because she won't really feel it...because she can just as easily replace that thought with 5 new guys that won't reject her. If she always gets what she wants and never has been turned down, there must be something about her (maybe personality, looks, brains, idk). When people are like this they almost never really change because there is no motivation to change (she can easily just move on to the next). Also you shouldn't bother with that because karma will deal with her. Lastly, you should't because you don't want that bs in your life, go find someone who is normal.
Now. If nothing I guessed was accurate and she really is a manipulative bitch, then you shouldn't even bother trying to make her feel rejected because she won't really feel it...because she can just as easily replace that thought with 5 new guys that won't reject her. If she always gets what she wants and never has been turned down, there must be something about her (maybe personality, looks, brains, idk). When people are like this they almost never really change because there is no motivation to change (she can easily just move on to the next). Also you shouldn't bother with that because karma will deal with her. Lastly, you should't because you don't want that bs in your life, go find someone who is normal.
MoonBlue you're so OFF that its almost comical. I've already discussed this with 2 members in PM. Thanks for your input but its wrong.
Posted by MoonBlue8Posted by cancerwithfire
MoonBlue you're so OFF that its almost comical. I've already discussed this with 2 members in PM. Thanks for your input but its wrong.
Take a look at your last 2 posts. Is there anything kind that you had to say about her? Actually, in your entire thread.... anything kind at all?
The "people" you ever had any kind of PM discussions with .. was most likely 1 person because only 1 person said they would PM you.
Karma won't deal with her at all... in all actuality karma does not matter.
Karma in how it gets defined out of context is sometimes just straight up fear, superstition, desire for revenge, evading personal responsibility, lack of intelligence or personal awareness, or simply the habit of attributing what happens to someone or to yourself to something outside of yourself.
Your path to enlightenment may not be the same path as her path.
So when it comes to karma, it ultimately does not matter.click to expand
FALSE. I contacted folks that had sensible responses.
The question was how would she act is I told her she couldn't have me. The rest of the posts I made were in response to other comments. Why would I contact negative posters? You sure are a negative Scorp bc instead of being optimistic and investigating further before posting nonsense, you did exactly that! You posted with negative thoughts.
I am a 64 year old Aries Male (Moon in Scorpio) who fell madly in love with a 57 year old Scorpio lady.(we met in Brazil where I live and she lives in Buenos Aires
Because of her intransigence (all I wanted was to bring her cat(and pay for everything) with her when she was invited to move in for the Summer as she needs assistance in domiciling her belongings that are are in Brazil(when she was living in another town here. I had everything set up, believing and having witnessed the reciprocal affection she and her very sweet cat , had for each other ).
I broke up by citing Proverbs 21:19 after she stated her Mother´s advice that conditions should not be part of a relationship to which I also responded that I was trying to cooperate:
"If the condition is complicated with self-interest, it may lock the relationship forever. If the condition is in the spirit of cooperation, it may protect the relationship forever."
No further response, guess I´ll get a dog , take it for a walk and perhaps meet someone else". Or just go Fishing!.
Happened two days ago...ah well...any advice out there?
Because of her intransigence (all I wanted was to bring her cat(and pay for everything) with her when she was invited to move in for the Summer as she needs assistance in domiciling her belongings that are are in Brazil(when she was living in another town here. I had everything set up, believing and having witnessed the reciprocal affection she and her very sweet cat , had for each other ).
I broke up by citing Proverbs 21:19 after she stated her Mother´s advice that conditions should not be part of a relationship to which I also responded that I was trying to cooperate:
"If the condition is complicated with self-interest, it may lock the relationship forever. If the condition is in the spirit of cooperation, it may protect the relationship forever."
No further response, guess I´ll get a dog , take it for a walk and perhaps meet someone else". Or just go Fishing!.
Happened two days ago...ah well...any advice out there?
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So explain this, if he was given the advice to "walk away", "leave her alone", "tell her you're done" (all paraphrased), but he is more focused on how she will respond and "what she deserves", does that not sound like something other than simply trying to end things? It's quite passive actually because he wants something from her, yet he was making it seem like he does not:
Yet, you yourself confirmed that he wants something different from what he post here^^^.
My posts were focused on what he was trying to present (as I stated above) vs what was really going on for him. She's been playing games, yes. But he allowed it to continue. This was the only point I was trying to highlight. So call her on her sh*t of course, but there is no need to give her what she "deserves" (aka stick it to her) as though she alone created this dynamic. She wasn't the only one playing this game. Every time he allowed her back in, he was participating. Knowing who she was and what she was/is capable of.
There is a way to be civil and cut ties and let her stew and get herself together without being petty. We see it with Stingers too. Trying to control or manipulate a situation and it doesn't work out so they get into a tizzy about it because they are hurt.