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What's up with all the weak male whiners lately? (Page 2)
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Posted by Rabbit
Are you drunk?I'm actually agreeing with you. I'm simply providing insight on what I see that causes some men to act weak.
No Rabbit I'm not drunk, are you?...and I don't see how you could be agreeing with me when you provide insight on something entirely different from what I'm talking about.
And I clearly and specifically outlined why I believe that behavior happens.
smh..and men who cannot leave a woman who abuses them is emotionally challenged because WOMEN & SOCIETY MADE THEM THAT WAY?
is that what society accepts in place of WEAK?
Screw society and the sheep who follow them.
Posted by Rabbit
Unless they are SHEEP and follow society without any type of upbringing or not taught at a young age right from wrong.
Posted by Rabbit
I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of many of the younger women out there.They demand sensitivity in men. So men changed who they were to meet that demand or they don't get laid.
Then these women get pissed when men try to act sensitive and fail because thats not who they are.
So you have whiney emo men and women bitching about those men being emo blah blah blah...
None of them know who they truly are or who they should be.
The Hand That Rocks The Cradle, Rules The World. eh?
They have themselves to blame.
.. so proud to be an exception.
😄
Good night to all..including men AND women who feel staying in an abusive relationship is a good
and STRONG way to go about life including the sheep who support you and say you should.
Sweet dreams...
Trouble is, all these laws that target the men, forces many of them into this weird psychoworld
of God knows what that really ties their hands.
For example, many women abuse the men emotionally, then if he leaves, their after his money in the way
of alimony. Or if he finally has had enough of her abuse, and slaps her, oh, he's going to the dog pound (jail).
Down in Tennessee there's that Mary Winkler... check that story out - Murder. She got away with murder.
When people see that potential, they bound to say screw it. So many will choose an alternative life style , or they will just go celibate and focus on other things.
Even so, that doesn't fix the problem because people really don't know what relationships are
supposed to be really all about. Unfortunately, downward spiral repeats itself over and over again
growing more and more disgusting every day.
Yesterday a 29 year old in Oregon committed dr assisted suicide. Today, because a woman's child's father was deemed ill, she took her six year old kid who was autistic and threw the child off a bridge. - IDIOTS, people.... IDIOTS!
Before you go, just to clear it up and I'm not a feminist, nor do I give enough fucks about people to care what they do in their abusive relationships.
Now I don't want to speak for people who actually have a penis. But if you're asking why do men put up with this. My instincts are telling me that Buckcherry had a very logical explanation for all of this.
All right!
Break me down, you got a lovely face
We're going to your place
And now you got to freak me out
Scream so loud, getting fuckin' laid
You want me to stay, but I got to make my way
Hey
You're crazy bitch
But you fuck so good, I'm on top of it
When I dream, I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on
I can't stand this song btw, but I think he's making a point.
People put up with abuse for so many reasons: fear, love, kids, money, brainwashed, poor self esteem, religious beliefs, misplaced feelings of responsibility, etc. Sometimes it's the upbringing, and sometimes it's not. I'm not saying it's a good thing to stay in a relationship like that, because it's not, but they do make excuses for it, and for the abuser. Unfortunately, as long as abusers are given excuses and have a partner who will help lie, cover up for, and excuse the abuse, the abuse will keep happening, and the abuser will get away with it.
I think it's too simplistic to say that society, or feminism, or whatever is to blame. Humans are complex, human interaction is even more complex, and each person is different, with different personalities, upbringing, cultural influence, etc. Because of that, people need to delve into their own self and figure out the why for their own situation: why did I accept this, why did I ignore warning signs early on, what can I do about it now, what plans should I make, what did I learn so I don't repeat this pattern, etc.
My x tried to give me the business. That "control" business. That "Head-game" business. That so-called "Bitch" business. The last time she pulled that was in 2006. Her behavior was such that NOBODY would
put up with it and most certainly not me. - Yes, it's sad, boo hoo, but I sure am a lot happier
and at peace without that absolutely crappy in my face. I told her what's what and she said
"I need to get out of here" I told her "You wanna leave—? LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAVE!!!!!"
She would still keep coming back. But... She doesn't get that her behavior is totally unacceptable.
Look Women.... you want to keep your man but you enjoy feeding him perpetual bullshit? That Dog Don't Hunt! it serves you right for him send you walkin'. Your stupid bullshit ain't worth a damn of his time.
Don't disrespect your man or the men around you, because you never know when and from whom you
trigger REAL hell on earth you never knew possible that immediately sends you to your grave so fast, it'll make your head spin clean off. All the laws in the world will NOT save you from the wrath
of the wrong man you chose to fuck with.
Don't believe me? just needle, little by little each day.... sooner or later, you'll find out how far that car got you.
Just find someone that likes you for your personality and that you enjoy hanging around with.
+1 key word "enjoy". Life is too short..
Posted by Arielle83
Any man who worries about a woman he is into, or is upset because he has been hurt or mistreated by a woman has my respect.I love a man who gives a shit about himself and the world around him and those he loves. Who cares if a guy comes here upset about a chick he digs. You do realize that nasty, crass, self-involved bitches make these sensitive, caring types hard, and then you all wonder where all the nice ones go?
It's not whinning, it's caring. They care about what's going on and want answers.
Same here..a man who cares about his woman or a woman who cares about her man and puts effort into the negative to make it right will always have my respect. When those efforts fail, and they remain in a toxic and abusive relationship...the respect dissipates real fast.
To your second paragraph...a man who gives a shit about himself or a woman who gives a shit about herself WON'T stay in an abusive relationship. When they do..it's not caring, it's desperation and a serious lack of self respect. My point being.. YOU ARE BETTER THAN THAT GET THE HELL OUT! Because I care...why? Children watch this shit and mimmick supposed grown adults and think this is how it should be. WRONG!
Posted by Rabbit
I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of many of the younger women out there.They demand sensitivity in men. So men changed who they were to meet that demand or they don't get laid.
Then these women get pissed when men try to act sensitive and fail because thats not who they are.
So you have whiney emo men and women bitching about those men being emo blah blah blah...
None of them know who they truly are or who they should be.
I both agree and disagree with this.
Girls say they want a sensitive guy. But what they really mean/want is a male that is sensitive to THEIR feelings, not his own.
Women want an emotionally intelligent man. Which is not necessarily the same thing as sensitive.
Posted by LetltB
I've never seen so many posts here from weak ass men crying, whining, complaining about women (Scorpio women or not). What the hell is this shit and why the hell are you so dense to remain with the women described as absolute nasty bitches? No balls? Mommy syndrome? WTF?I'm embarrassed for the male species.
Maybe these are just unself-discovered gay men...I dunno, but it's really pathetic.
There truly are decent women out there. Stay away from the women who have their heads up their asses, your's won't fit up there when it's already occupied!
When you make a blanket statement such as this ^^^^^ coupled with a title "What's up with *all* the weak male whiners lately?", you are essentially disrespecting men as a whole, which I believe is wrong. That to *me* is really a feminist statement.....which is odd as you went out of your way to proclaim you were not a feminist.
Unless you are specific to who you are talking about, you are only setting yourself up with equal digs such as "bitch", "cat lady" and "old bitter lady".
The few threads that I think you are talking about (but you are highly unlikely to call them out or confirm...like usual)....stihl's being one of them (or many that he's created)....alot of the obsession is in his head and I really doubt if this woman even knows of his interest (and possibly existense) to begin with....which really doesn't bring about a conclusion she's an "abuser".
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smh...another non-comprehensive reader mixed with assumptions.
no comment.
Posted by LetltB
I for one cannot stand feminists.They are an embarrassment to me personally and let them know that every chance I get.
Do you even know what feminism is? Cause if you can actually define it in two or three sentences, then I will change my mind about you. Very few people even know what that word reallllly means.
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I absolutely do know what it was and what it stood for. Today...it's down the shitter, because it turned to shit.
The percentage of humans who can comprehend is small I know and I whole heartedly accept that.
Not needy for a flock of sheep to agree as most do here. That's what separates some of us from others. Again, I'm good with that. 😉
My concern goes out to everyone who subjects themselves to disrespect, abusive partners.
Some people need to hear they are much better than that and need to do something about it.
That's all I have to say about this.
I don't remember saying *ALL* men/women were abused?
In fact I pointed out *all* the whiney men who were, but hey, everyone has their ownership in comprehension I suppose.
..carry on.
Posted by tiziani
The greatest rivalries are based on people who fundamentally agree on the destination but argue over the journey.LIB vs Elle is one for the ages. Hall of fame for sure.
Thanks for the chuckle. 😉
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
...so the taurus boss (pisces moon 😛) left the office and came back with a pot of coffee.
yey, this is how we rule.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
wait....if we are not all 'following' your train of thought.....we are sheep?isn't that an oxymoron?
*scratches head*
either I have lice or I'm confused.
hold me!
another chuckle 😉
Posted by tiziani
The greatest rivalries are based on people who fundamentally agree on the destination but argue over the journey.LIB vs Elle is one for the ages. Hall of fame for sure.
Reminds me of Tolkein and CS Lewis.
The Tolkien and CS Lewis of DXP... has a ring to it!
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Does this mean we need to forge a ring to rule them all?
Make that solid steal. 😉
Posted by Rabbit
I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of many of the younger women out there.They demand sensitivity in men. So men changed who they were to meet that demand or they don't get laid.
Then these women get pissed when men try to act sensitive and fail because thats not who they are.
So you have whiney emo men and women bitching about those men being emo blah blah blah...
None of them know who they truly are or who they should be.
I both agree and disagree with this.
Girls say they want a sensitive guy. But what they really mean/want is a male that is sensitive to THEIR feelings, not his own.
Women want an emotionally intelligent man. Which is not necessarily the same thing as sensitive.
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You see that, Rabbit?
1) Emotionally Intelligent = We are expected to be perfectionist mind readers
2) Sensitive to their feelings but not his own.
Then comes the third concept that LIB talks about. One example is as follows:
Stickin' around (often, for the sake of the kids) perpetually taking the
nagging' woman's abuse and slowly but surely becomes the "Abused Man" -
to which I add: who finally had cracked, coming to his senses, expresses:
"Duh, I think that hurts!" which we know is only to be met with "Weak Whiny Man"
aka "Pussy" who deserves no one's respect neither should he possess any
self-respect. - That is what I call... BULLSHIT! I wouldn't blame him for leaving
if he did. But then.... He should get the kids, the house, the cars, child support
alimony, everything but her clothes.
IF the kids treat him like trash, he's going to have a tough decision to make.
a) just walk away from the whole thing and face the music to come, or
b) commit suicide, or
c) murder/suicide
A man can find himself in hell because of such a woman.
Far better to be alone in the wilderness than in a mansion with a contentious woman.
Posted by LetltB
Make that solid steal. 😉
Narnian wood wardrobe, and I better learn how to metal smith really fast.....No problem! I got this! lol
To follow up my last post,
That being said, the laws of the land don't make it easy.
The best thing a man can hope for is to find a true loving wife that treats him right.
Second best thing a man can hope for is to be content without vices though he may indeed
be alone.
Men are rationally oriented creatures - women are emotionally oriented creatures.
I seriously don't think they are ever going to fully understand each other in a way that satisfy both without any troubles. I seriously doubt it.
Even so, when both can deftly balance rationality and emotionality, then can they get along.
But there's always that time when the balance becomes unbalanced.
Ahhhh then it's anyone's guess.
Holleywood tries to work on these issues. Any divorced man could watch as many films as they need to focus on how the roles (incl. typical mistakes) are depicted and which solutions are suggested there.
Reasonable men handle the same stuff much better.
Cookimonsters hate any book or film you give them. They think they know it better. Only the world is not nice to them.
Posted by LetltB
There are plenty of real men here too.Just pointing out the day in day out threads of men who forgot they are men..that is all.
Ah yes, I needed my daily misandry LMAO Fuck gender roles and all that. I mean, I think it's good when a person has their shit together, but you don't see me telling you to stop being so tough and independent. You don't see me telling you to act like a "real woman", that you clearly forgot you're a woman. Get in the kitchen and all that?
But nah, men. MEN, gotta be "real men". Right? Fuck you.
The user who posted this message has hidden it, because, hell... what difference does it make—
There's my 2 cents, since I was summoned.
Appreciated and pocketed for a rainy day. 😉
Posted by Rabbit
Are you drunk?I'm actually agreeing with you. I'm simply providing insight on what I see that causes some men to act weak.
LOL!! I was just thinking this exact thing to myself while I read the interaction between you two.
Posted by Rabbit
I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of many of the younger women out there.They demand sensitivity in men. So men changed who they were to meet that demand or they don't get laid.
Then these women get pissed when men try to act sensitive and fail because thats not who they are.
So you have whiney emo men and women bitching about those men being emo blah blah blah...
None of them know who they truly are or who they should be.
I both agree and disagree with this.
Girls say they want a sensitive guy. But what they really mean/want is a male that is sensitive to THEIR feelings, not his own.
Women want an emotionally intelligent man. Which is not necessarily the same thing as sensitive.
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Interesting perspective. That makes a lot of sense actually. Wow.
Posted by Rabbit
I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of many of the younger women out there.They demand sensitivity in men. So men changed who they were to meet that demand or they don't get laid.
Then these women get pissed when men try to act sensitive and fail because thats not who they are.
So you have whiney emo men and women bitching about those men being emo blah blah blah...
None of them know who they truly are or who they should be.
I both agree and disagree with this.
Girls say they want a sensitive guy. But what they really mean/want is a male that is sensitive to THEIR feelings, not his own.
Women want an emotionally intelligent man. Which is not necessarily the same thing as sensitive.
Interesting perspective. That makes a lot of sense actually. Wow.
I will have to counter this and meet her half way...you can't be sensitive to another person's feelings if you aren't sensitive to your own.
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Good point. Maybe it's more like women want a man that is sensitive to his feels, but doesn't outwardly express them "to much" while being sensitive to her feelings. Though what "to much" entails is up for debate.
I'm a sucker for a woman that can cook breakfast. Best meal of the day!
This is sooooo slow I don't know why it posted that many times
I hope it's not because of candy crush
Posted by starlover
Oh guys ~ you have no idea where that pain takes a womanBloody hell!!!!
Worth it though!
🙂
Believe me, I do...
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Posted by TachiMichi
when it comes to it,
men should be able
to be men without any
backlash. if they did
not maliciously hurt
us women, and they try
to do the best that they
can to love us in their own
ways, we as women should
respect that. we cannot truly
expect a man to approach life,
love, and relationships from
a female's point of view. if
a man is left alone to learn,
grow, and really love on his
own accord, then they will be
able to show women what they
want to see. you do not push
a man, you do not nag him, nor
do you disrespect him. take him
for who he is. a man only has one
mother. do not try to play that role.a man is most beautiful in all
of his natural glory. he is strong,
he is protecting, and even nurturing.
he is not of a mostly emotional state.
that is what a woman is. when a man takes
his time to listen to what you have to say,
and when he protects your emotions, even
though he may not fully understand them,
he should be appreciated, because he is
at least trying. men are primal. they love
to eat, fuck, and hunt. but when they extend
their hearts to take into account what their
women want, it means they do love and care.
women who are too much on the bitchy side
ruin the possibilities that they can have
with men. if you hinder him too much, then
you will be ignored and treated differently.
why? because in his heart he will say 'she does
not love me. she only wants to rule me, or take
advantage.' then, ladies, problems will arise.
+1 Exactly.
Regarding the spins on "Gays"...I base that off my experience of my male gay friends. IMO are more emotional and show it with ease.
So bite me and nice try. 😉
Posted by Curiousram
does that mean all straight men are cry babies?
NO
So you equate people who show their emotions with being weak?
NO
You talking about drama queens?
NO
So all gay men are weak and cry
NO
Posted by starlover
Maybe these are just unself-discovered gay men...I dunno, but it's really pathetic.Then this ^^^ was somewhat ambiguous ~ writing gay men and pathetic in the same sentence isn't always the best thing to do
again...NO
k..
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This is what followed the word weak:
"What the hell is this shit and why the hell are you so dense to remain with the women described as absolute nasty bitches?"