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A vent....

Slow and stubborn you taurus males...

Last night was supposed to be a quiet evening with my bf. He worked a 12 hour day and asked me to go to his house and hang, while he was on his way home from work "get comfy and rest. I cant wait to see you" he said.

I get to his place and I realize his cat is hungry so I go to feed his cat and there is no food. Now I specifically texted him the night before and asked if he got cat food ad he said "yes".

Now im a little annoyed. I don't like to be lied to no matter how small or insignificant. The reason I asked about the cat food was because I would have picked some up on my way over.

So I call him, and ask if he's gong to pick up cat food "yes. I should have yesterday but I forgot" I said "well why did you tell me yes and lie to me?"

"Babe can yu just relax, I worked 12 hours, I was all happy to see yu all now you are giving me a hard time. This is a microscopic lie"

"This isn't the first small lie. What else are you lying about"

This made him freak out.

Now I have trust issues in general and now this just kind of rubbed me the wrong way and he was not backing down.

He comes home with cat food ad says "I'm sorry I lied. I didn't want you to shame me" (I don't shame, I would have simply gotten cat food)

The rest of rhe night he tells me I ruined the night, he jist wanted to snuggle with me and basically making it all about his feelings and not taking into consideration mine.

We eventually move past it and I asked him about being official on fb (stupid I know, but it would just help my trust issues) he says "I'm not ready for that yet" and I say why not...we've been together 5 months and he says "I want to make sure you are the real deal"...real deal?! He told me he loves me and I've said it back but he's still indecisive?

...this is just a rant.
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on the cat food "lie", are you sure he wasn't just fake listening/agreeing bc he was tired or preoccupied? ...I have a bad habit of doing that in relationships...partner will be talking to me about some mundane/day-to-day things, and I will be giving all the body language and verbal cues of someone who is being attentive, but I'm checked out completely, often agreeing to things I'm not even aware of, completely in another world in my head....5 mos. and you're sleeping together, but no official/public commitment though? I'd definitely be suspicious as well....
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Posted by Ariqua
Could it be that he lies because you are so reactive?

I don’t think it’s his job to fix your trust issues either. Being Facebook official wont fix your issues.


He did say he thought I would "shame him or get mad". I'm not usually reactive, only when I'm blatantly lied to.

I don't want to find out he's a habitual liar and lies abut everything....

And I know he's not supposed to fix my trust issues, but he can help reassure me at times and lying certainly isn't reassuring...

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on the cat food "lie", are you sure he wasn't just fake listening/agreeing bc he was tired or preoccupied? ...I have a bad habit of doing that in relationships...partner will be talking to me about some mundane/day-to-day things, and I will be giving all the body language and verbal cues of someone who is being attentive, but I'm checked out completely, often agreeing to things I'm not even aware of, completely in another world in my head....5 mos. and you're sleeping together, but no official/public commitment though? I'd definitely be suspicious as well....

No it was through a text message. Not verbal.

He posts pics of us at times, people know we are together my friends and his close friends...but I need a little more
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on the cat food "lie", are you sure he wasn't just fake listening/agreeing bc he was tired or preoccupied? ...I have a bad habit of doing that in relationships...partner will be talking to me about some mundane/day-to-day things, and I will be giving all the body language and verbal cues of someone who is being attentive, but I'm checked out completely, often agreeing to things I'm not even aware of, completely in another world in my head....5 mos. and you're sleeping together, but no official/public commitment though? I'd definitely be suspicious as well....

Don't give us away... what are you DOING?!

Of course he was listening!
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you do this too? I have agreed to entire vacations in fake listening mode....then been completely caught off guard later....
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on the cat food "lie", are you sure he wasn't just fake listening/agreeing bc he was tired or preoccupied? ...I have a bad habit of doing that in relationships...partner will be talking to me about some mundane/day-to-day things, and I will be giving all the body language and verbal cues of someone who is being attentive, but I'm checked out completely, often agreeing to things I'm not even aware of, completely in another world in my head....5 mos. and you're sleeping together, but no official/public commitment though? I'd definitely be suspicious as well....
No it was through a text message. Not verbal.
He posts pics of us at times, people know we are together my friends and his close friends...but I need a little more
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That kind of lie could be due to the effects of relativity/time dilation....sometimes if a partner asks me if I've done something, I know I am planning on doing it 100% , so I project myself into the future where it is already done, and I answer from there in the affirmative....then some shit happens in the present like I forget about it entirely and now I am on a different trajectory, and it will look like I lied later....Einstein spoke of this....
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on the cat food "lie", are you sure he wasn't just fake listening/agreeing bc he was tired or preoccupied? ...I have a bad habit of doing that in relationships...partner will be talking to me about some mundane/day-to-day things, and I will be giving all the body language and verbal cues of someone who is being attentive, but I'm checked out completely, often agreeing to things I'm not even aware of, completely in another world in my head....5 mos. and you're sleeping together, but no official/public commitment though? I'd definitely be suspicious as well....


No it was through a text message. Not verbal.
He posts pics of us at times, people know we are together my friends and his close friends...but I need a little more

That kind of lie could be due to the effects of relativity/time dilation....sometimes if a partner asks me if I've done something, I know I am planning on doing it 100% , so I project myself into the future where it is already done, and I answer from there in the affirmative....then some butter happens in the present like I forget about it entirely and now I am on a different trajectory, and it will look like I lied later....Einstein spoke of this....
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That does sound accurate...
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on the cat food "lie", are you sure he wasn't just fake listening/agreeing bc he was tired or preoccupied? ...I have a bad habit of doing that in relationships...partner will be talking to me about some mundane/day-to-day things, and I will be giving all the body language and verbal cues of someone who is being attentive, but I'm checked out completely, often agreeing to things I'm not even aware of, completely in another world in my head....5 mos. and you're sleeping together, but no official/public commitment though? I'd definitely be suspicious as well....


No it was through a text message. Not verbal.
He posts pics of us at times, people know we are together my friends and his close friends...but I need a little more



That kind of lie could be due to the effects of relativity/time dilation....sometimes if a partner asks me if I've done something, I know I am planning on doing it 100% , so I project myself into the future where it is already done, and I answer from there in the affirmative....then some butter happens in the present like I forget about it entirely and now I am on a different trajectory, and it will look like I lied later....Einstein spoke of this....

I'm gonna use this... I'm glad einstein was a pisces... they're lazier than tauruses.. and with the whole relativity thing.. who's gonna argue with einstein?
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It may have been Terramine....I get the two confused.....
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I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops

Did you tell him how you feel about this?
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Yes a d he said "let me do this on my time"
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Posted by Boots1313
I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops


that would bother me....I'm a weirdo though....I don't have sex until I know I can commit...once we go there, its like I'm over-committed....I feel like I will be with that person for life...if they didn't want to acknowledge it publicly at that point, I'd probably feel like they were embarrassed of me, or still playing the field/leaving options open....
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Posted by Boots1313
I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops
Well you know what you have to do. Make his cat a facebook and put yourself as in a relationship with him.
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lmao
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I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops

that would bother me....I'm a weirdo though....I don't have sex until I know I can commit...once we go there, its like I'm like over-committed....I feel like I will be with that person for life...if they didn't want to acknowledge it publicly at that point, I'd probably feel like they were embarrassed of me, or still playing the field/leaving options open....
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This is more in line with how I am. When I give yup my body I give you everything
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Posted by Boots1313
I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops



Did you tell him how you feel about this?


Yes a d he said "let me do this on my time"

Not much you can do if you’ve both expressed what you want. You either accept it or you don’t. Trying to force it would be a bad idea. I don’t think bringing it up again in a few weeks would be bad though.
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I brought it up end of last month after we went on vacation and he said not yet. And I was okay with it.

So I brought it up again last night and same response and then he said "I like to set the pace and things are good right now" and I said well when? "I can't tell you when, but when I feel ready it will happen" I'm like dude I'm not asking for a proposal!
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I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops



that would bother me....I'm a weirdo though....I don't have sex until I know I can commit...once we go there, its like I'm like over-committed....I feel like I will be with that person for life...if they didn't want to acknowledge it publicly at that point, I'd probably feel like they were embarrassed of me, or still playing the field/leaving options open....
This is more in line with how I am. When I give yup my body I give you everything
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100% same...honestly in most matters of attachment/emotion, I tend to relate more to women than men in general (need an emotional attachment for sex, etc.)....I hold out on the sex for that reason (will have all other sexual relations though), and past partners have gotten a little rapey with me lol....it definitely has its downside though....if I make the wrong decision, I feel locked in....
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I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops



that would bother me....I'm a weirdo though....I don't have sex until I know I can commit...once we go there, its like I'm like over-committed....I feel like I will be with that person for life...if they didn't want to acknowledge it publicly at that point, I'd probably feel like they were embarrassed of me, or still playing the field/leaving options open....

What happens when you're over-committed in your mind, go to have sex and she's a dude? Then what?
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lmao...most of the chicks I wind up with are super assertive/masculine to begin, so I always know to check for that just in case...best way is to be the little spoon when you are snuggling on the couch....you'll feel it....
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Posted by ChuggingA
Omg its so easy to get anything you want from a taurus man if theyre into you like that. They're venusians and not stubborn when it comes to pleasing their girlfriends. You should set the pace. He might put the brakes on right quick for a fat minute, but he'll bend.

Lmao...well I guess he isn't that into me...

No he does bend a lotttt for me. I'm not the easiest person to be with (crippling anxierty, trust issues and codependency) he has been rely good and understanding with that, but there is just a few issues ...we also sort of have a "taboo" relationship. I broke up with one of his friends to date him. So although the guy knows I guess he's still waiting for that dust to settle
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Like seriously, I told this one taurus guy that he will conform to my demands because I'm the female and thats how it works with our species. I cant believe he's still talking to me lol. And he says I own his dick and its not even that serious. He started off telling me he doesnt chase.. I was just like, is that so? He's been chasing pretty hard these past few days.

Idk, I'm not really a game player, I wear my heart on my sleeve.

We tease aND joke around a lot but we're both mushes.
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Omg its so easy to get anything you want from a taurus man if theyre into you like that. They're venusians and not stubborn when it comes to pleasing their girlfriends. You should set the pace. He might put the brakes on right quick for a fat minute, but he'll bend.

This is true.. I've never not given in to a girlfriend.. I'll take my time... but I'll eventually give them what they want..
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So how do I push without being confrontational ...he gets super defensive in disagreements. I'm kind of sick of arguments with him, they always seem to escalate.
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You just need to make him move. He's being lazy with you cuz you lettin him 💁


pretty much what everything boils down to with me....I don't even want to be that way, but I do tend towards the easiest path....if a woman caters to me too much, has very few demands, etc., I just roll with it....it becomes a huge imbalance, I tend to take them for granted, etc.... I think bulls need a strong woman who will assert her needs or we take advantage w/o even knowing it....
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I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops



that would bother me....I'm a weirdo though....I don't have sex until I know I can commit...once we go there, its like I'm like over-committed....I feel like I will be with that person for life...if they didn't want to acknowledge it publicly at that point, I'd probably feel like they were embarrassed of me, or still playing the field/leaving options open....


This is more in line with how I am. When I give yup my body I give you everything



100% same...honestly in most matters of attachment/emotion, I tend to relate more to women than men in general (need an emotional attachment for sex, etc.)....I hold out on the sex for that reason (will have all other sexual relations though), and past partners have gotten a little rapey with me lol....it definitely has its downside though....if I make the wrong decision, I feel locked in....
This taurus told me his last long term girlfriend was a cancer. I spit my water all over him (we have weird water fights. He does the same shit to me) and told him, sorry, I just realized I can literally do anything I want to you and youre not going to go anywhere...
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lol I enjoy such things....food fights, water fights, you throwing knives at me fights lol....just not in public...I did break up with a Cancer for throwing a drink in my face at a restaurant....
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Omg its so easy to get anything you want from a taurus man if theyre into you like that. They're venusians and not stubborn when it comes to pleasing their girlfriends. You should set the pace. He might put the brakes on right quick for a fat minute, but he'll bend.



This is true.. I've never not given in to a girlfriend.. I'll take my time... but I'll eventually give them what they want..


So how do I push without being confrontational ...he gets super defensive in disagreements. I'm kind of sick of arguments with him, they always seem to escalate.

I'm telling you.. make it seem like its his idea..

Me personally.. every single time I have made my mind to commit to someone... it was because they had stopped pressuring me (and it always happens at first, everyone wants to know where they stand) and just 'was'. If I'm around someone consistently, I like them.. if I physically touch someone a lot, I'm attracted to them..

I'm both logical and emotional, I have to assess my emotions over time.. Now, you try to rush that process and I'll blow my cool, but I'll come back to center fairly soon..

What always hooks me is passion.. not necessarily sexual passion either.. just watching a woman do something she loves to do.. when She's in her own little world and content and happy..art, dance, music, etc. I'll watch and smile.. then I'm hooked..

Do things that you're good at and are passionate about around him.. know hes there but don't focus on him..
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all this is very true for me also....love creative types who are passionate about whatever they're into....
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I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops



that would bother me....I'm a weirdo though....I don't have sex until I know I can commit...once we go there, its like I'm like over-committed....I feel like I will be with that person for life...if they didn't want to acknowledge it publicly at that point, I'd probably feel like they were embarrassed of me, or still playing the field/leaving options open....


This is more in line with how I am. When I give yup my body I give you everything



100% same...honestly in most matters of attachment/emotion, I tend to relate more to women than men in general (need an emotional attachment for sex, etc.)....I hold out on the sex for that reason (will have all other sexual relations though), and past partners have gotten a little rapey with me lol....it definitely has its downside though....if I make the wrong decision, I feel locked in....


This taurus told me his last long term girlfriend was a cancer. I spit my water all over him (we have weird water fights. He does the same butter to me) and told him, sorry, I just realized I can literally do anything I want to you and youre not going to go anywhere...



lol I enjoy such things....food fights, water fights, you throwing knives at me fights lol....just not in public...I did break up with a Cancer for throwing a drink in my face at a restaurant....
..but did you get back together?

Its the taurus sun/leo moon combo. I'm worried for you. I secretly want to be nice to him.
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I did not get back with her....that was kinda the last straw....tons of incompatibility....she froze up completely stiff whenever we were sexual due to trauma she experienced as a kid, and I knew that was going to be very difficult to figure out/work through, she was extremely immature in general, and also she smelled weird lmao...still probably would've married her if not for the drink in the face...I switched to another Cancer soon after though......
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that's sounds annoying, there's something going on with virgo mooners and getting fib 😆, Idk why, maybe you're prone to criticize him? so he tries to avoid that by lying.

otherwise he would be a compulsive liar, I know two of those, I can't understand the thought process of those peoples, you can't never trust'em.

I don't get the FB thing either, kinda brings memories, I know someone that didn't change his status there for years, so he could keep chatting with random girls online, didn't necessarily cheat, he just wanted the attention.
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Flip the script on him.

“I also want to make sure your the real deal. Being official on social media is a step in that direction”

*bats eyes 💅


Genius...duh

Lol come to me for all your manipulative relationship needs. This Pisces has got you covered 😉
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Didn't work. Made him angry "you got to be kidding me...I'm not the real deal?! I do everything for you... "yadda, yadda...oops
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Omg its so easy to get anything you want from a taurus man if theyre into you like that. They're venusians and not stubborn when it comes to pleasing their girlfriends. You should set the pace. He might put the brakes on right quick for a fat minute, but he'll bend.



This is true.. I've never not given in to a girlfriend.. I'll take my time... but I'll eventually give them what they want..


So how do I push without being confrontational ...he gets super defensive in disagreements. I'm kind of sick of arguments with him, they always seem to escalate.



I'm telling you.. make it seem like its his idea..

Me personally.. every single time I have made my mind to commit to someone... it was because they had stopped pressuring me (and it always happens at first, everyone wants to know where they stand) and just 'was'. If I'm around someone consistently, I like them.. if I physically touch someone a lot, I'm attracted to them..

I'm both logical and emotional, I have to assess my emotions over time.. Now, you try to rush that process and I'll blow my cool, but I'll come back to center fairly soon..

What always hooks me is passion.. not necessarily sexual passion either.. just watching a woman do something she loves to do.. when She's in her own little world and content and happy..art, dance, music, etc. I'll watch and smile.. then I'm hooked..

Do things that you're good at and are passionate about around him.. know hes there but don't focus on him..



all this is very true for me also....love creative types who are passionate about whatever they're into....

It always seems to be that moment where you watch them as they are deep in concentration almost "in the zone" like.. I'll catch myself staring.. and thinking... you're mine now..
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yes...also why I like competitive/athletic chicks....sag ex I'm talking to now is like this...we play beach or pool volleyball occasionally and she is like better than 90% of the dudes, playing like her life depends on it....1x1 she is the same with me whether its cards, video games, etc....she cries if I beat her too much though lol....could be my incessant bragging...
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I think the not wanting to "possess and claimed me" as his on social media is bothersome and upsetting me more.
like he really has no excuse other than he isn't ready for that yet.

Meanwhile he talks about the future . We are bf gf...exclusive.
Idk...I wanna scream it from the roof tops



that would bother me....I'm a weirdo though....I don't have sex until I know I can commit...once we go there, its like I'm like over-committed....I feel like I will be with that person for life...if they didn't want to acknowledge it publicly at that point, I'd probably feel like they were embarrassed of me, or still playing the field/leaving options open....


This is more in line with how I am. When I give yup my body I give you everything



100% same...honestly in most matters of attachment/emotion, I tend to relate more to women than men in general (need an emotional attachment for sex, etc.)....I hold out on the sex for that reason (will have all other sexual relations though), and past partners have gotten a little rapey with me lol....it definitely has its downside though....if I make the wrong decision, I feel locked in....


This taurus told me his last long term girlfriend was a cancer. I spit my water all over him (we have weird water fights. He does the same butter to me) and told him, sorry, I just realized I can literally do anything I want to you and youre not going to go anywhere...



lol I enjoy such things....food fights, water fights, you throwing knives at me fights lol....just not in public...I did break up with a Cancer for throwing a drink in my face at a restaurant....


..but did you get back together?

Its the taurus sun/leo moon combo. I'm worried for you. I secretly want to be nice to him.



I did not get back with her....that was kinda the last straw....tons of incompatibility....she froze up completely stiff whenever we were sexual due to trauma she experienced as a kid, and I knew that was going to be very difficult to figure out/work through, she was extremely immature in general, and also she smelled weird lmao...still probably would've married her if not for the drink in the face...I switched to another Cancer soon after though......

"She smelled weird" that's why you never over commit before...
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I mean, that's a radical understatement....not to be cruel but she smelled so bad in certain contexts, my heart broke and I felt our whole future collapsing every time I got a whiff....still I can overlook a lot and would've worked around it.....just don't disrespect me in public, especially if I've been drinking....could cause table flipping followed by a Scarface "say goodnight to the bad guy" speech....
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Flip the script on him.

“I also want to make sure your the real deal. Being official on social media is a step in that direction”

*bats eyes 💅


Genius...duh



Lol come to me for all your manipulative relationship needs. This Pisces has got you covered 😉
Didn't work. Made him angry "you got to be kidding me...I'm not the real deal?! I do everything for you... "yadda, yadda...oops
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Everything but that fb status yo 😏
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Omg its so easy to get anything you want from a taurus man if theyre into you like that. They're venusians and not stubborn when it comes to pleasing their girlfriends. You should set the pace. He might put the brakes on right quick for a fat minute, but he'll bend.



This is true.. I've never not given in to a girlfriend.. I'll take my time... but I'll eventually give them what they want..


So how do I push without being confrontational ...he gets super defensive in disagreements. I'm kind of sick of arguments with him, they always seem to escalate.



I'm telling you.. make it seem like its his idea..

Me personally.. every single time I have made my mind to commit to someone... it was because they had stopped pressuring me (and it always happens at first, everyone wants to know where they stand) and just 'was'. If I'm around someone consistently, I like them.. if I physically touch someone a lot, I'm attracted to them..

I'm both logical and emotional, I have to assess my emotions over time.. Now, you try to rush that process and I'll blow my cool, but I'll come back to center fairly soon..

What always hooks me is passion.. not necessarily sexual passion either.. just watching a woman do something she loves to do.. when She's in her own little world and content and happy..art, dance, music, etc. I'll watch and smile.. then I'm hooked..

Do things that you're good at and are passionate about around him.. know hes there but don't focus on him..



all this is very true for me also....love creative types who are passionate about whatever they're into....



It always seems to be that moment where you watch them as they are deep in concentration almost "in the zone" like.. I'll catch myself staring.. and thinking... you're mine now..



yes...also why I like competitive/athletic chicks....sag ex I'm talking to now is like this...we play beach or pool volleyball occasionally and she is like better than 90% of the dudes, playing like her life depends on it....1x1 she is the same with me whether its cards, video games, etc....she cries if I beat her too much though lol....could be my incessant bragging...



Yep! Competitiveness gets me going also. I actually enjoy getting beat though.. by a woman I'm interested in.. don't get it twisted.. but, i think that goes back to wanting to see how she handles herself in victory and defeat..


Are you turned off by mad gloaters or something?


No. Well, it depends on I'd the gloating is more of an "I'm great" or a "you suck" mentality.. if it's the latter I'm out for blood in a rematch... if it's the former it's cute.
Lolz I definitely do both. I'm also a piss poor loser when that rarely happens.

Gloating is attractive to me. When they win and make fun of me. Lightens my mood.
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the gloating for me is just part of the psychological game....if you can get in their head so bad that you destroy their confidence, you don't have to put so much effort into actually competing lol....I swear I beat the sag in so many consec. games of Rummy, we both believed I had magical powers at one point....
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Flip the script on him.

“I also want to make sure your the real deal. Being official on social media is a step in that direction”

*bats eyes 💅


Genius...duh



Lol come to me for all your manipulative relationship needs. This Pisces has got you covered 😉
Didn't work. Made him angry "you got to be kidding me...I'm not the real deal?! I do everything for you... "yadda, yadda...oops
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don't assume bc we get angry and shoot it down, that we aren't taking it into consideration....I think @RockyMountainOysters said this on here before, but that is just sorta how we are...we can't back down in the midst of the argument so much, but we will walk away and ponder it still, and it will change our behavior....
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?


He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.

We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.

He is the most understanding in that sense
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Flip the script on him.

“I also want to make sure your the real deal. Being official on social media is a step in that direction”

*bats eyes 💅


Genius...duh



Lol come to me for all your manipulative relationship needs. This Pisces has got you covered 😉


Didn't work. Made him angry "you got to be kidding me...I'm not the real deal?! I do everything for you... "yadda, yadda...oops

don't assume bc we get angry and shoot it down, that we aren't taking it into consideration....I think @RockyMountainOysters said this on here before, but that is just sorta how we are...we can't back down in the midst of the argument so much, but we will walk away and ponder it still, and it will change our behavior....
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Lmao

Well at the end of the conversation I said " im over this" which he took me as saying over the relationship but I meant the conversation and then I said " well we have reached an impassioned because neither one is backing down" 20 minutes later I got a relationship request on fb.

And he messaged me saying "I don't wanna hear a peep pit of you for 6 months *heart emoji*"

And I said thank you! You won't!

Then he said "over it, you're so annoying"

I guess I win?
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?



He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.
We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.
He is the most understanding in that sense

I bet the more independence you show the more he'll come around to what you want.. absence makes the heart grow fonder.. and I don't know a single Taurus who doesnt love a strong independent woman.
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truth....one week away from my partner, and that first time seeing them again reignites the passion almost to the level of that early infatuation phase....

@Boots1313 I think its especially the case with venus in gem like your dude has....I have that, and too much familiarity, seeing each other daily, and it can sort of feel like you're just becoming roommates....I've seen you post about him needing space before, and that is a prerequisite for me, in any relationship....doesn't mean there won't be periods where we just straight indulge in each other in every way, non-stop for a while....but those breaks are important I think....to remember who you are, what you're into, as an individual....and to give yourself a chance to miss/yearn for your partner again....
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?



He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.
We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.
He is the most understanding in that sense



I bet the more independence you show the more he'll come around to what you want.. absence makes the heart grow fonder.. and I don't know a single Taurus who doesnt love a strong independent woman.

truth....one week away from my partner, and that first time seeing them again reignites the passion almost to the level of that early infatuation phase....

@Boots1313 I think its especially the case with venus in gem like your dude has....I have that, and too much familiarity, seeing each other daily, and it can sort of feel like you're just becoming roommates....I've seen you post about him needing space before, and that is a prerequisite for me, in any relationship....doesn't mean there won't be periods where we just straight indulge in each other in every way, non-stop for a while....but those breaks are important I think....to remember who you are, what you're into, as an individual....and to give yourself a chance to miss/yearn for your partner again....
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I'm also venus in gem...idk why I'm so damn clingy.

But it's true. I didn't see him Monday or Tuesday ad when I saw him wednesday...he came to my place it was like the first few weeks all over again.couldn't get enough of me.

I'm trying really hard, but the Co dependency is is a real disorder I have.

I'm consciously making an effort and working hard everyday.
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?



He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.
We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.
He is the most understanding in that sense



I bet the more independence you show the more he'll come around to what you want.. absence makes the heart grow fonder.. and I don't know a single Taurus who doesnt love a strong independent woman.



truth....one week away from my partner, and that first time seeing them again reignites the passion almost to the level of that early infatuation phase....

@Boots1313 I think its especially the case with venus in gem like your dude has....I have that, and too much familiarity, seeing each other daily, and it can sort of feel like you're just becoming roommates....I've seen you post about him needing space before, and that is a prerequisite for me, in any relationship....doesn't mean there won't be periods where we just straight indulge in each other in every way, non-stop for a while....but those breaks are important I think....to remember who you are, what you're into, as an individual....and to give yourself a chance to miss/yearn for your partner again....
I'm also venus in gem...idk why I'm so damn clingy.
But it's true. I didn't see him Monday or Tuesday ad when I saw him wednesday...he came to my place it was like the first few weeks all over again.couldn't get enough of me.
I'm trying really hard, but the Co dependency is is a real disorder I have.
I'm consciously making an effort and working hard everyday.
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I've been in a codependent situation myself....It actually worked out fairly well for a long time....don't you paint or something? I remember you having a brush in your old avi....do whatever hobbies you have just get eclipsed by the relationships you're in?
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?



He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.
We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.
He is the most understanding in that sense



I bet the more independence you show the more he'll come around to what you want.. absence makes the heart grow fonder.. and I don't know a single Taurus who doesnt love a strong independent woman.



truth....one week away from my partner, and that first time seeing them again reignites the passion almost to the level of that early infatuation phase....

@Boots1313 I think its especially the case with venus in gem like your dude has....I have that, and too much familiarity, seeing each other daily, and it can sort of feel like you're just becoming roommates....I've seen you post about him needing space before, and that is a prerequisite for me, in any relationship....doesn't mean there won't be periods where we just straight indulge in each other in every way, non-stop for a while....but those breaks are important I think....to remember who you are, what you're into, as an individual....and to give yourself a chance to miss/yearn for your partner again....


I'm also venus in gem...idk why I'm so damn clingy.
But it's true. I didn't see him Monday or Tuesday ad when I saw him wednesday...he came to my place it was like the first few weeks all over again.couldn't get enough of me.
I'm trying really hard, but the Co dependency is is a real disorder I have.
I'm consciously making an effort and working hard everyday.

I've been in a codependent situation myself....It actually worked out fairly well for a long time....don't you paint or something? I remember you having a brush in your old avi....do whatever hobbies you have just get eclipsed by the relationships you're in?
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Yes, unfortunately I give 100% when I'm in relationships.

I block print as a hobby, it's a fairy easy thing to do and I often bring a block with me to my bfs and I'll do that while he plays piano/guitar (his hobby) we inspire eachother in that way.

He recently told me he wants to try a print one day and I told him I would love that. He's trying to teach me piano also.

I really do love our relaturns hip and how we work.

I just find everything more enjoyable with someone. I'm not good at solo
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?



He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.
We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.
He is the most understanding in that sense



I bet the more independence you show the more he'll come around to what you want.. absence makes the heart grow fonder.. and I don't know a single Taurus who doesnt love a strong independent woman.



truth....one week away from my partner, and that first time seeing them again reignites the passion almost to the level of that early infatuation phase....

@Boots1313 I think its especially the case with venus in gem like your dude has....I have that, and too much familiarity, seeing each other daily, and it can sort of feel like you're just becoming roommates....I've seen you post about him needing space before, and that is a prerequisite for me, in any relationship....doesn't mean there won't be periods where we just straight indulge in each other in every way, non-stop for a while....but those breaks are important I think....to remember who you are, what you're into, as an individual....and to give yourself a chance to miss/yearn for your partner again....

The other day when you asked how the virgo and aqua moon worked together... this.. she also enjoyed this as much as I did.. we could go days without talking but know intuitively what the other was going through.. was weird.. we'd go days and not call but when we did decide to call we would do it at the same exact time. On several occasions the phone wouldn't even ring I would hit send and immediately all i heard was her saying "hello? Hello?"
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love that, can def. see that w/Aqua placements too....I always feel in synch with my partner like this when away doing my thing....if I'm really in love, they're my muse for creative projects, my reason for working towards financial goals, all of it....sometimes I like just being away and daydreaming about them, while listening to music, missing them, etc. as well....When you're in early phases of a relationship, these things come naturally because you're not always around each other. But when you are together every day, they cease, and its just accepted that this is the way things ought to be. I think there's obviously something to be said for having that space to be apart and engaged in what you're passionate about - without that I think you lose so much of what attracted you to each other initially. Even further though, that space to just think about the person imaginatively is really undervalued. Women complain a lot that men lose the romantic approach they started the courtship with, and I think its a legit complaint. But its almost impossible to have the authentic feelings/desires that underlie that sort of creative behavior, or really even the time to consider it/implement it, if you're always together.
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He's not ready for that yet because he probably has some cookiemonsteres on the side.

85% of Taurus males.

Probably his ex, too.

See and these are the thoughts that go through my head.

It's 85% of males in general.

In every relationship I've been cheated on, I have very little trust in people.

He did he though. He gave in and made it official. ..could still have a cookie monster on the side tho. Just telling her to be quiet...sigh
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?



He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.
We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.
He is the most understanding in that sense



I bet the more independence you show the more he'll come around to what you want.. absence makes the heart grow fonder.. and I don't know a single Taurus who doesnt love a strong independent woman.



truth....one week away from my partner, and that first time seeing them again reignites the passion almost to the level of that early infatuation phase....

@Boots1313 I think its especially the case with venus in gem like your dude has....I have that, and too much familiarity, seeing each other daily, and it can sort of feel like you're just becoming roommates....I've seen you post about him needing space before, and that is a prerequisite for me, in any relationship....doesn't mean there won't be periods where we just straight indulge in each other in every way, non-stop for a while....but those breaks are important I think....to remember who you are, what you're into, as an individual....and to give yourself a chance to miss/yearn for your partner again....


I'm also venus in gem...idk why I'm so damn clingy.
But it's true. I didn't see him Monday or Tuesday ad when I saw him wednesday...he came to my place it was like the first few weeks all over again.couldn't get enough of me.
I'm trying really hard, but the Co dependency is is a real disorder I have.
I'm consciously making an effort and working hard everyday.



I've been in a codependent situation myself....It actually worked out fairly well for a long time....don't you paint or something? I remember you having a brush in your old avi....do whatever hobbies you have just get eclipsed by the relationships you're in?
Yes, unfortunately I give 100% when I'm in relationships.
I block print as a hobby, it's a fairy easy thing to do and I often bring a block with me to my bfs and I'll do that while he plays piano/guitar (his hobby) we inspire eachother in that way.
He recently told me he wants to try a print one day and I told him I would love that. He's trying to teach me piano also.
I really do love our relaturns hip and how we work.
I just find everything more enjoyable with someone. I'm not good at solo
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I think as long as you're learning/growing together there's nothing necessarily wrong with that....its just when its all about indulgence - couch, tv, food, sex - and the life purpose/creative pursuits get sidelined, that I think it gets dangerous....sounds like you two have a lot you can do together though....thats promising, even if its a bit of a struggle to give him some of the space he needs....
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Has he said anything about you being codependent?



He's very independent, but he works with me. He givesme 3 to 4 nights a week to hangout and he answeres all my late ight phone calls. He is very giving in that sense and supportive. Sometimes tough love but it's needed.
We are acrikey working on it, and compromising so both of our needs are met.
He is the most understanding in that sense



I bet the more independence you show the more he'll come around to what you want.. absence makes the heart grow fonder.. and I don't know a single Taurus who doesnt love a strong independent woman.



truth....one week away from my partner, and that first time seeing them again reignites the passion almost to the level of that early infatuation phase....

@Boots1313 I think its especially the case with venus in gem like your dude has....I have that, and too much familiarity, seeing each other daily, and it can sort of feel like you're just becoming roommates....I've seen you post about him needing space before, and that is a prerequisite for me, in any relationship....doesn't mean there won't be periods where we just straight indulge in each other in every way, non-stop for a while....but those breaks are important I think....to remember who you are, what you're into, as an individual....and to give yourself a chance to miss/yearn for your partner again....


I'm also venus in gem...idk why I'm so damn clingy.
But it's true. I didn't see him Monday or Tuesday ad when I saw him wednesday...he came to my place it was like the first few weeks all over again.couldn't get enough of me.
I'm trying really hard, but the Co dependency is is a real disorder I have.
I'm consciously making an effort and working hard everyday.



I've been in a codependent situation myself....It actually worked out fairly well for a long time....don't you paint or something? I remember you having a brush in your old avi....do whatever hobbies you have just get eclipsed by the relationships you're in?


Yes, unfortunately I give 100% when I'm in relationships.
I block print as a hobby, it's a fairy easy thing to do and I often bring a block with me to my bfs and I'll do that while he plays piano/guitar (his hobby) we inspire eachother in that way.
He recently told me he wants to try a print one day and I told him I would love that. He's trying to teach me piano also.
I really do love our relaturns hip and how we work.
I just find everything more enjoyable with someone. I'm not good at solo

I think as long as you're learning/growing together there's nothing necessarily wrong with that....its just when its all about indulgence - couch, tv, food, sex - and the life purpose/creative pursuits get sidelined, that I think it gets dangerous....sounds like you two have a lot you can do together though....thats promising, even if its a bit of a struggle to give him some of the space he needs....
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Yes, don't get me wrong 2/4 days is t.v food, couch, and sex or as we say

"PuBg and chill" but...on our day off we make sure to be productive and do our hobbies and be outside in nature. Toss the pig skin, go to the gym together stuff like that.

We have a good balance. He says our relatioship is basically perfect except for this social media fight.
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