HELP! I am falling fast for my best friend who is a TAURUS!

(Bare with me, I know this is long, but please please continue reading) I never catch feelings, but when I do, I fall hard. I am a cancer girl who is in her first year of college. I have never had a boyfriend or "talked" to anyone. When I first met my soon to be best friend during my first semester i wanted nothing to do with him. I wasn't attracted to him at all and thought he came off as creepy. He was actually just super nice, it didn't seem normal since I come from a state where people are not the nicest. He started off DMing me on instagram and I wouldn't really answer. Then he got my number from my roommate. That's how we became friends, through her. She would invite him over all the time and we would start to hang out. When he first texted me he didn't make much conversation and didn't text me again for a long time. I am really really into him. All of our friends constantly make jokes about us dating all the time, I feel bad because I don't want it to annoy him. My friend group made a bet that we all had to get dates for Valentines Day. I ended up going with him to a really fancy and expensive restaurant (his choice) in the city and he paid for everything! I didn't think of it as a date. We talked about our families for most of the dinner and he said that he really wants to meet my parents. I texted him thanking him later that night and he answered "No problem homie" with smiling emojis. Homie?! So was I just friend-zoned or.. Then a few weeks ago he said that if a guy pays for dinner it is considered a date. When my roommate goes home on the weekends he usually sleeps over (in her bed of course) and we'll stay up untill 5am talking about nothing and laughing. At our last sleepover he even asked me about a post I made complaining about getting friend-zoned. The post wasn't about him but he brought it up out of nowhere like "so who was your post about where someone called you their sister?" I thought it was quite funny that he was concerned. We always play fight. I'll jokingly make sexual comments at him or even hold his hand. Our touches always linger. One time he made a comment about how I'd make the perfect wife if I wasn't vegetarian (kidding obviously). He even said he'd marry me, and it didn't seem like he was joking. My roommate even brought it up to me afterwards. I played it off like I didn't hear him because I got so flustered. Sometimes I feel like there's a spark, but other times i feel like he's so distant. Maybe it's because I'm a cancer and I overthink everything. I just never felt this way before with anyone and I really feel like we are the same person in different bodies. I don't know what to do. I really want him to like me, but I don't want to make the first move because I don't want to make our friendship awkward. But if I don't do anything I'll be friend-zoned for sure if I'm not already. What do you guys think about this whole situation?

**And I forgot to mention that he is currently messing around with a Capricorn girl. He constantly tells me that he doesn't want anything serious with her and that he is looking for someone new to mess with. She's very possessive and acts sort of crazy at times. She came up to me once and said that she always get what she wants. And one time in the cafeteria she went up to him after he told her that he was into someone else and she said that no one will be better than her. At first he wanted nothing to do with her but slowly he's starting to see her more and more. He'll leave my room randomly and go see her for an hour and then come back. He still tells me he wants nothing with her except sex, but all of her friends tell me that he's whipped. I don't know what to believe.

Anyone with some advice?

He's not worth getting involved with and getting your heart broken. You've been warned.

@SeekingCancer,

You're asking for advice for an indirect question, and to make a decision for you after the 'fog' of a story you created detailing this push/pull scenario.

This Bull isn't vague. He's DIRECT. Bulls move linear, in the 'either or' moment, and consistently.

He made it quite OBVIOUS.

You already knew this.

You, on the other hand, move quite the contrary, zig-zag, inconsistently, and this push/pull method that only happens when he's distancing himself from you. You're not interested when he's interested, then you show interest again when he's not interested. You're playing games, and now you're asking us for advice?

Check this out,

When you figure out what is it you DO want....

Come back on this board and re-post this thread.

Something tells me it's not the Bull that you're interested in....it's the chase, and possibly a validation for your own ego.

I don't mean to come off harsh, but seriously, your pretentious lack of understanding on this matter is really not that convincing at all.

BTW,

If it's an astrological opinion you're looking for.

Bulls DETEST mind games.

Keep this up and you will lose him....possibly FOREVER.

Get your game up, and quit playing clueless.

Sounds like you both like eachother but are both afraid to make the next move... So id get drunk and make a move and see what happens.. Then if he refuses you can say "oops i was just really drunk sorry" and carry on with the friendship. I sounds weird but it works. No point wasting any more time... Its just gonna destroy you.

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When I first met my soon to be best friend during my first semester i wanted nothing to do with him. I wasn't attracted to him at all and thought he came off as creepy. He was actually just super nice, it didn't seem normal since I come from a state where people are not the nicest. He started off DMing me on instagram and I wouldn't really answer. Then he got my number from my roommate. That's how we became friends, through her.

interest Taurus

disinterest Cancer

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I texted him thanking him later that night and he answered "No problem homie" with smiling emojis. Homie?! So was I just friend-zoned or..

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disinterest Taurus

interest Cancer

@Vageenka,

The OP sees competing with this Cap woman as a challenge.

Now she's suddenly interested in this Bull.

Playground GIRLFIGHT.



LMAO,

I was a youngin too.

Not to cosign for this guy, but he's young and not in a relationship with either of these women.

The Cap is a 'sidepiece' who wants to be promoted to girlfriend. At least she's honest, and knows what she wants.

The Crab here, wants to take this Cap women on that challenge, the Bull is distancing himself from her, and now "I am falling for this guy hard...fast...what do I need to do?"

Prior to all this, she thought he was creepy and avoiding him like the plague.

But now she's friend-zoned, he's re-directing his attention to his 'jumpoff' and now ...here she is...seeking astrological advice.

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@Vageenka,

The OP sees competing with this Cap woman as a challenge.

Now she's suddenly interested in this Bull.

Playground GIRLFIGHT.



LMAO,

I was a youngin too.

Not to cosign for this guy, but he's young and not in a relationship with either of these women.

The Cap is a 'sidepiece' who wants to be promoted to girlfriend. At least she's honest, and knows what she wants.

The Crab here, wants to take this Cap women on that challenge, the Bull is distancing himself from her, and now "I am falling for this guy hard...fast...what do I need to do?"

Prior to all this, she thought he was creepy and avoiding him like the plague.

But now she's friend-zoned, he's re-directing his attention to his 'jumpoff' and now ...here she is...seeking astrological advice.

I appreciate everything you have posted, I do not think you're being harsh at all. Honestly I am not trying to play games with him and I am not acting clueless. I DO know what I want, and it's him, it has been him for a while. I just have this huge problem with rejection. I know it might sound childish, but I have had the worst experiences with rejection in the past. Now that we have become closer I find it harder to make a move because I don't want to risk losing our friendship. Thank you for all of your advice.

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@Vageenka,

The OP sees competing with this Cap woman as a challenge.

Now she's suddenly interested in this Bull.

Playground GIRLFIGHT.



LMAO,

I was a youngin too.

Not to cosign for this guy, but he's young and not in a relationship with either of these women.

The Cap is a 'sidepiece' who wants to be promoted to girlfriend. At least she's honest, and knows what she wants.

The Crab here, wants to take this Cap women on that challenge, the Bull is distancing himself from her, and now "I am falling for this guy hard...fast...what do I need to do?"

Prior to all this, she thought he was creepy and avoiding him like the plague.

But now she's friend-zoned, he's re-directing his attention to his 'jumpoff' and now ...here she is...seeking astrological advice.

It's all just immature and dumb.

But you're right. The Taurus dude did not commit or claim anyone of them. He's young and single.

If bimbo's are dumb enough to get played then get played.

These experiences are learning lessons anyway.

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This is bullshit. "bimbo's" unnecessary apostrophe included, get played bc men are liars and con artists. Did she start liking him only after the cap showed interest? I highly doubt it.

@SeekingCancer,

Then if you ARE generally interested in him.

You may want to tell him, he may have got the 'vibe' in the beginning that you weren't interested.

You DID make that very obvious.

The 'friend-zone' was a defense mechanism. Bulls have their guards up too.

My advice,

Be honest. Tell him that you're interested, and that you're not the sharing type.

This is VERY important.

Bulls are consistent. How you start out will be how you keep out.

Don't pretend to be OK with anything.

Side-step the situation, and the side-piece remains.

Expect a very confrontational love triangle if you're not clear about what you're looking for.



My gut instinct tells me he will not turn you down.

Go for it!

Posted by TaurusBull1977
@SeekingCancer,

Then if you ARE generally interested in him.

You may want to tell him, he may have got the 'vibe' in the beginning that you weren't interested.

You DID make that very obvious.

The 'friend-zone' was a defense mechanism. Bulls have their guards up too.

My advice,

Be honest. Tell him that you're interested, and that you're not the sharing type.

This is VERY important.

Bulls are consistent. How you start out will be how you keep out.

Don't pretend to be OK with anything.

Side-step the situation, and the side-piece remains.

Expect a very confrontational love triangle if you're not clear about what you're looking for.



My gut instinct tells me he will not turn you down.

Go for it!

Thank you so much. I'll definitely take your advice!

Also, what do you mean by don't pretend to be OK with anything? I've realized that the more I overthink this the more I push him away. Hopefully it all works out.

When in doubt, talk it out.

Taurusbull1977 is right; Tauruses are direct and don't like to play mind games, they love honesty and genuine kind hearts, so don't be afraid to let him know what you're thinking and feeling because he will appreciate it.

As for your fears, take a deep breathe and really think about exactly what you want to say. Don't let your thoughts get to you (i know it's hard, i still have trouble with it), and keep reminding yourself that communication and knowing your exact feelings is better in the long run vs keeping it all hidden til it blows up in your face.

From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

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Sounds like you both like eachother but are both afraid to make the next move... So id get drunk and make a move and see what happens.. Then if he refuses you can say "oops i was just really drunk sorry" and carry on with the friendship. I sounds weird but it works. No point wasting any more time... Its just gonna destroy you.

Typical Pisces response "get drunk"....

Taurus don't like drunk women!

@OP ignore that advice...That's a Pisces for you.. Escape through drink and drugs....

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Thank you! I'll keep that in mind from now on. When I do drink or "get drunk" I realize that he distances himself more. I'll definitely start taking it easy.

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

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As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

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I might be old fashioned, but what does sleeping with a woman just for sex say about him?

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Also, what do you mean by don't pretend to be OK with anything? I've realized that the more I overthink this the more I push him away. Hopefully it all works out.

This sign can be rather 'fixed/complacent' with a "if it aint broke, don't fix it attitude."

Speak your mind...and do it from the very beginning!

Bulls can be rather resilient to change, if you're not clear about your intentions, you may have a selfish Bull, set in his ways to deal with in the future.

This means...

He has to bid the sidepiece "Goodbye...and Good Luck."

So there wouldn't be any confrontation between you and the Cappie!

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

I might be old fashioned, but what does sleeping with a woman just for sex say about him?

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I completely agree with you. He constantly calls me hopeless romantic and I've told him many times that I am very old fashioned because that is how I was raised. From being close with him I know that he's not the type to sleep with a lot of girls. So far in college he has talked to a few, but only has slept with one of them (according to him they've only had sex twice). I don't like it, honestly none of our friends really like her for him, but all guys have their wants and needs..

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

If you like him, lay your cards out on the table and tell him so and find out EXACTLY what he wants to do with this?

This is when you find out where his intentions toward you lie. this is where you find out if the cap is just sex or not... Because tight now, you have have not staked your claim on him so it's fair game as far as he is concerned.

But the minute you tell him what you want ie a relationship etc and you want to get to know him better and see where it leads etc. find out if his intentions towards you are honourable ie is he going to be worth your time; does he want a relationship with you.. Etc

Once you know his status and his intentions towards you and if you are both singing from the same hymn sheet, the cap has to go...

But... I say.. But you will get to know him first and who he hangs out with and do your background checks and investigations to make thoroughly sure that the cap is no longer on the scene.

Get to know him first very very well before you get into his bed... Make sure everything adds up. There is no room for error. Study him.

I used to study my bull and I used to say to him "do you know that you give out mutable, flighty energy"? He would say "yes I have been told this before but I am not like that"... It was his VIG and sag energies that I was sensing in the very beginning and that used to make my VIP and mars in Taurus energies nervous...

It was only after we got together 18 months later that I got to see the Sensual Taurus energy...

So take your time to study this bull and his actions with how he treats the cap too. That could also be an indicator as to how he treats women and how he feels about them and casual relationships. Study this bull hard.

He has the cap who he does not care to much for but also young bulls are known to have a harem... So watch out. Be smart.

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I always say that I am looking for a relationship, obviously not specifying him though. At first once he told me he wanted to be in a relationship in general (not with me) but now he says that he is not looking for a relationship, that is why I have not made a first move yet.

As for paying attention to who who he hangs out with, its mostly me to be honest. We see each other everyday. We eat together and have class together twice a week. He comes over at night on the daily and will stay over until 3 am. As for background checks from what he tells me his family seems amazing. He has so much for them and I love that because family is the most important thing in my life. He asked me and my roommate to go out to his baseball this weekend and his family is flying out so I will most likely be meeting them and I am so nervous!!

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

lol cap is funny, so do they ever do fun things together? except cuddle in bed

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No they don't do fun things together lol she messaged me last night because I went out with him and when we got back we ran into her and she was being so rude.

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Also, what do you mean by don't pretend to be OK with anything? I've realized that the more I overthink this the more I push him away. Hopefully it all works out.

This sign can be rather 'fixed/complacent' with a "if it aint broke, don't fix it attitude."

Speak your mind...and do it from the very beginning!

Bulls can be rather resilient to change, if you're not clear about your intentions, you may have a selfish Bull, set in his ways to deal with in the future.

This means...

He has to bid the sidepiece "Goodbye...and Good Luck."

So there wouldn't be any confrontation between you and the Cappie!

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You are so right! I completely forgot that they do not like change. I really messed up this time by not telling him from the beginning, I might be too late.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

I replied to this yesterday, but it didn't get posted. My reply went like this:

That explains it, the good family background and good future prospects. I feel he is serious about you since he is pushing you into the medical field (aka stable, security path) and planning a future with you.

Pretty sure you passed his initial examination and match the more impt things on his mental checklist. A Taurus checklist usually includes feminine, beautiful, strong woman who cooks well or knows how to appreciate good food. And very importantly, adds to his sense of security or comfort so that he can see a future with you.

Care to share his 'ideal girl' quality with us?

My Taurus used to babble on about the qualities he want and even pointed to a specific someone that we know but I know that is who he likes as a friend but not interested in cos that friend though tall, is quite tomboy and he is very conscious about looks and manners. So don't always believe in everything a Taurus tells you. Do checks yourself and try to understand him and the zodiac a lot more.

If you like him, lay your cards out on the table and tell him so and find out EXACTLY what he wants to do with this?

This is when you find out where his intentions toward you lie. this is where you find out if the cap is just sex or not... Because tight now, you have have not staked your claim on him so it's fair game as far as he is concerned.

But the minute you tell him what you want ie a relationship etc and you want to get to know him better and see where it leads etc. find out if his intentions towards you are honourable ie is he going to be worth your time; does he want a relationship with you.. Etc

Once you know his status and his intentions towards you and if you are both singing from the same hymn sheet, the cap has to go...

But... I say.. But you will get to know him first and who he hangs out with and do your background checks and investigations to make thoroughly sure that the cap is no longer on the scene.

Get to know him first very very well before you get into his bed... Make sure everything adds up. There is no room for error. Study him.

I used to study my bull and I used to say to him "do you know that you give out mutable, flighty energy"? He would say "yes I have been told this before but I am not like that"... It was his VIG and sag energies that I was sensing in the very beginning and that used to make my VIP and mars in Taurus energies nervous...

It was only after we got together 18 months later that I got to see the Sensual Taurus energy...

So take your time to study this bull and his actions with how he treats the cap too. That could also be an indicator as to how he treats women and how he feels about them and casual relationships. Study this bull hard.

He has the cap who he does not care to much for but also young bulls are known to have a harem... So watch out. Be smart.

I always say that I am looking for a relationship, obviously not specifying him though. At first once he told me he wanted to be in a relationship in general (not with me) but now he says that he is not looking for a relationship, that is why I have not made a first move yet.

As for paying attention to who who he hangs out with, its mostly me to be honest. We see each other everyday. We eat together and have class together twice a week. He comes over at night on the daily and will stay over until 3 am. As for background checks from what he tells me his family seems amazing. He has so much for them and I love that because family is the most important thing in my life. He asked me and my roommate to go out to his baseball this weekend and his family is flying out so I will most likely be meeting them and I am so nervous!!





Sounds like the Cap is his plan B girl until someone better (YOU!) comes along. I feel sorry for her that she is just being used for sex.

I think his sights are set on you from the things you do together. Staying till 3 am is a very telling sign. Guys don't stay that late on a daily basis till 3 am unless they are in a 'relationship' or something along those lines. Good that you did not sleep with him gal. Proud of you! Pls continue to do so.

I guess he wants you to be his future wife. Meeting family means he's more or less settled with you if you passed his family's inspection. Your family backgrounds must be pretty close to each other for him to make such a decision. I assumed he has asked a lot of things about your family, life style , future plans and perhaps share your childhood stories, photos together already?

I feel he is just assuming you are in a relationship with him. Do you feel a connection with him?

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.



When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

Yes, the light-coloured hair certainly makes you look more cheery!

You are very lucky to meet your Bull. Very compatible charts. I like VIP. I'm a Virgo myself and gets along well with people with strong Earth and Water placements.

My Bull is not like this and most likely we will either stay friends or drift apart in the future. He has a harem of friends on the side whom he invest almost all his time there and trying to get over his ex, but I guess what's important is that we don't feel the love connection despite our attraction. He's almost 10 years younger than me, so the difference is way too much and my family is not supportive as they feel I can do a lot better. My Bull isn't the evolved kind. He's still in his play days and I can't sense the commitment.

To be honest, I feel I can connect with you and TaurusBull1977 more than I connect with my Taurus. Maybe bcos I am hard to understand or because I am more evolved emotionally.

But for OP, I feel all the right signs are there. He should break away from his Cap girl faster and stop leading the other poor lady on. Usually the Caps I know don't sleep with guys that fast. This one must be one of the rarer ones.

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

I might be old fashioned, but what does sleeping with a woman just for sex say about him?

I completely agree with you. He constantly calls me hopeless romantic and I've told him many times that I am very old fashioned because that is how I was raised. From being close with him I know that he's not the type to sleep with a lot of girls. So far in college he has talked to a few, but only has slept with one of them (according to him they've only had sex twice). I don't like it, honestly none of our friends really like her for him, but all guys have their wants and needs..

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I think you have to realise that you are dealing with a guy who is still basically a kid. You're still young, he's not matured yet. I can appreciate your feelings are strong for this guy but I would just urge you to proceed with caution.

It sounds like he doesn't know quite what he wants yet or who he really is. My advice is to not get involved with him, this cap and this mess. If I were you, I would wait. If I really thought there could be something long lasting there then I would wait until he grows up a bit and gets this phase out of his system.

Until he can show you in word and deed that he is someone to invest in, then best to step back and watch how this plays out.

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Thanks for revealing info re your Taurus. So if don't feel the love connection with him then I am assuming that the friendship suits you both better?

As for caps and Taurus men, a lot of the caps seem to be Taurus men side chicks or fwbs strangely enough! We get a lot of that on these boards. I don't think cap females are as resilient as they look on the outside and settle for whatever the Taurus male puts down for them...

For me and my bull I took a risk, sure... He had never been turned down by a woman in his life let alone 4 times... So it was shock to his ego but I had to do what was right for me even if our attraction to each other was emotionally, mentally and physically strong..

But it's not easy... They are not easy men to deal with or the "dependable" "stable" "reliable" men astrology would like us to believe! George Clooney is the typical Taurus and i firmly beloved he should have come with a "hazardous" sign written on his forehead!

They are charming and they know it and this is what they use to entice the female. Another reason why only strong females should deal with them and hold out for what you want no matter what temptations they put in front of you. To have an independent "money making" life of your own...

I feel lots of Taurus under age 40 are not mature. Some have leo and sag moons and they are the children and Peter pan signs of the zodiac. Leo moons are child like and sags are Peter pans and these qualities are formed in the moons of some of these tauruses...

One needs to tread carefully when dealing with a Taurus. 2.5 years from our early days and I am still treading carefully with mine... Scorp in 8th house... Soooooo many hidden secrets... I'm still an "onion" with soo many layers to him... Secrets to unravel...

U must be a mystery tauruses do get bored...

Thank you for listening and sharing with me your insights as always, my dear 🙂 appreciate it!

I always thought George Clooney is one of the better Bulls.

The issue with my Bull is he is a very superficial guy and he could not understand me. When I talk to you and all the other mature ladies on this forum, you know where I come from......... he doesn't. Still in his clubbing days and expect me to cater to all his childish ways.

I feel I can understand him very very well because I am intuitive and I study astrology. I can name you all his closest friends but he cannot name mine. All his actions to me are VERY VERY predictable eg I know the hidden meaning behind his actions; his reactions, the things he says and do are always what I predicted. I know he is not at the commitment stage yet, not anywhere near. He's getting over his past relationship of 9 years (last gf is a Leo) which is fine by me, but what I am really uncomfortable with is his harem of friends which he hangs out with and his mum.

Recently I helped him gain a government scholarship (that's why he's away now) and driving license. This is a truth cos ALL his other applications are rejected whenever he did not ask for my help/advice/insight. I made the effort cos he was the one who expressed interest first and I took a chance.

But still there're times he makes me feel unimportant. Talks and plans our future, uses the word 'we' , has merged a photo of our future son together, confides in me impt things even when he feels low esteem........BUT when his routine and clubbing friends are concerned, he makes me feel like an option. He has like 700 followers on social media, parties A LOT and drinks A LOT and has the 'I'd see you when I finally have a timeslot for you' attitude. He prefers hanging out with silly friends who idolise him rather than friends who are wise and intelligent. He reverts to his shallow self around them rather than being the workaholic and mature adult when he is around me.

Also, I do not feel he would ever be able to understand me, my goals or my life. I am an old soul, worldly wise, past my playing days, have my Mars in Scorpio and a lot of 12th House Placements. The more I know about him, the more I feel bored and often feel his lack of depth/capacity. On his side, he feels I am too purposeful in my life (which makes me sad consider he is very ambitious himself). So, now you know why interviewers don't pass him for scholarship at first.

I saw us together because he has a serious attitude in my presence, don't give me doubts and said he will never give me up. In the long run though, his effort in our relationship are minimal cos he wants everything to be breezy which is soooo Taurus. Also has a mum who thinks so GREATLY of his accomplishments that she is always airing to the world about his good looks, accomplishments etc etc how great he is. Can't stand that at all. He is accomplished, but not anywhere near great and his character is lacking.

My family background is actually better than his and I grew up being admired by friends and elites. We don't even have to boast about anything. Me rather stay single than to settle for less because I am proud. Anyway, now other women can pick up where I left off and enjoy the fruits of my labour. He attracts flocks of young, silly women and he enjoys the attention. Those younger chicks will be satisfied cos by the time he can settle down, he will have a lot of success and probably go into the news more often (yap, he already made the news with his gov scholarship). A government scholarship is a golden ticket to first class elitism where I come from.

I don't feel anymore enthused in advancing his life which he is using to show off to his friends and doesn't even mention me. Without me, he definitely will take a lot longer to succeed.

I know I am judgemental of his harem but I prefer mature, quality people. When I told my mum about him, she is sad cos she feels he is shortchanging me. Guys usually treat me like a princess (and no, I don't have Princess Syndrome). My Taurus admits to being very very selfish. I used to accept his flaws, but as time goes on, I really can't take it cos I know I don't have to.

Though it is said Taurus wants the best and can offer the best, I feel the things I offer him so far are far greater than what he has been offering though he can certainly do better with more effort (but he isn't). I am a typical Virgo, semi-perfectionist and will give the world to people I love. When I read Taurus Man Decoded, I feel the author is talking about my Taurus cos the similarities are all there.

If I friendzone him, I certainly am not going to help him as much.

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If you like him, lay your cards out on the table and tell him so and find out EXACTLY what he wants to do with this?

This is when you find out where his intentions toward you lie. this is where you find out if the cap is just sex or not... Because tight now, you have have not staked your claim on him so it's fair game as far as he is concerned.

But the minute you tell him what you want ie a relationship etc and you want to get to know him better and see where it leads etc. find out if his intentions towards you are honourable ie is he going to be worth your time; does he want a relationship with you.. Etc

Once you know his status and his intentions towards you and if you are both singing from the same hymn sheet, the cap has to go...

But... I say.. But you will get to know him first and who he hangs out with and do your background checks and investigations to make thoroughly sure that the cap is no longer on the scene.

Get to know him first very very well before you get into his bed... Make sure everything adds up. There is no room for error. Study him.

I used to study my bull and I used to say to him "do you know that you give out mutable, flighty energy"? He would say "yes I have been told this before but I am not like that"... It was his VIG and sag energies that I was sensing in the very beginning and that used to make my VIP and mars in Taurus energies nervous...

It was only after we got together 18 months later that I got to see the Sensual Taurus energy...

So take your time to study this bull and his actions with how he treats the cap too. That could also be an indicator as to how he treats women and how he feels about them and casual relationships. Study this bull hard.

He has the cap who he does not care to much for but also young bulls are known to have a harem... So watch out. Be smart.

I always say that I am looking for a relationship, obviously not specifying him though. At first once he told me he wanted to be in a relationship in general (not with me) but now he says that he is not looking for a relationship, that is why I have not made a first move yet.

As for paying attention to who who he hangs out with, its mostly me to be honest. We see each other everyday. We eat together and have class together twice a week. He comes over at night on the daily and will stay over until 3 am. As for background checks from what he tells me his family seems amazing. He has so much for them and I love that because family is the most important thing in my life. He asked me and my roommate to go out to his baseball this weekend and his family is flying out so I will most likely be meeting them and I am so nervous!!

Sounds like the Cap is his plan B girl until someone better (YOU!) comes along. I feel sorry for her that she is just being used for sex.

I think his sights are set on you from the things you do together. Staying till 3 am is a very telling sign. Guys don't stay that late on a daily basis till 3 am unless they are in a 'relationship' or something along those lines. Good that you did not sleep with him gal. Proud of you! Pls continue to do so.

I guess he wants you to be his future wife. Meeting family means he's more or less settled with you if you passed his family's inspection. Your family backgrounds must be pretty close to each other for him to make such a decision. I assumed he has asked a lot of things about your family, life style , future plans and perhaps share your childhood stories, photos together already?

I feel he is just assuming you are in a relationship with him. Do you feel a connection with him?







I wouldn't really say he wants me to be his future wife! haha Our families are both very cultured (not the same culture though), so I guess we both relate in that aspect. I also do not plan on sleeping with him anytime soon!! Surprisingly (according to my friends) being a virgin in college is shocking. Our friends talk about sex regularly so it's nothing new, but I've always made it clear how important it is for me to do it with someone I care about and am going to be with for a long time.

Yes we talk about family a lot. He always jokes about how he's going to come to my family parties and I joke with him about how he has to become part of the family first. Light flirting, but be aware that he has a VERY flirty personality so it is VERY very hard to read him. We talk about life style and our futures. We share comical stories about our past.

I don't think he assumes that we are in a relationship at all! Like i said he has a very flirty personality. Taurus men are sensual, so he's very touchy with everyone. He is super flirty with my roommate who has a boyfriend, but he 100% respects her, that's just how their relationship is. I feel the strongest connection with him, its unbelievable. It takes A LOT for me to catch feelings. And I have liked guys before but I could never see a future with them like I can see one with him. It's so crazy because so many people think that we're "a thing" or dating. Everyone tells me that they can see us together or ending up together. And it's really funny because no one knows that i have feelings for him.

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No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

I replied to this yesterday, but it didn't get posted. My reply went like this:

That explains it, the good family background and good future prospects. I feel he is serious about you since he is pushing you into the medical field (aka stable, security path) and planning a future with you.

Pretty sure you passed his initial examination and match the more impt things on his mental checklist. A Taurus checklist usually includes feminine, beautiful, strong woman who cooks well or knows how to appreciate good food. And very importantly, adds to his sense of security or comfort so that he can see a future with you.

Care to share his 'ideal girl' quality with us?

My Taurus used to babble on about the qualities he want and even pointed to a specific someone that we know but I know that is who he likes as a friend but not interested in cos that friend though tall, is quite tomboy and he is very conscious about looks and manners. So don't always believe in everything a Taurus tells you. Do checks yourself and try to understand him and the zodiac a lot more.

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I feel like once he feels like a friend is genuine he really cares for them. This is one thing I love about him. Once he cares about someone, he pushes them to be the best they could be. He is always helping everyone study for exams or doing homework. He has the biggest heart and will do anything to see others succeed.

His ideal girl quality is tan, dark hair, light eyes, gorgeous body, and fitting personality. I am not really a good representation of his ideal girl which makes me super insecure around him. He always says that he wants to marry someone that fits his "criteria". I honestly believe that if I was fitter, dressed a little nicer, and basically spent an hour every morning getting ready he'd be way more attracted to me physically. Our personalities do mix really really well but one thing that I've learned being around him is that he cares a lot about physical appearance, I'm the opposite. I do think a lot of guys are attractive, but what grabs my attention is a great personality. Yet while he says that this girl and that girl is hot, I know that deep inside he isn't as superficial as he seems and he can see past his "ideal girl"

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

I might be old fashioned, but what does sleeping with a woman just for sex say about him?

I completely agree with you. He constantly calls me hopeless romantic and I've told him many times that I am very old fashioned because that is how I was raised. From being close with him I know that he's not the type to sleep with a lot of girls. So far in college he has talked to a few, but only has slept with one of them (according to him they've only had sex twice). I don't like it, honestly none of our friends really like her for him, but all guys have their wants and needs..

I think you have to realise that you are dealing with a guy who is still basically a kid. You're still young, he's not matured yet. I can appreciate your feelings are strong for this guy but I would just urge you to proceed with caution.

It sounds like he doesn't know quite what he wants yet or who he really is. My advice is to not get involved with him, this cap and this mess. If I were you, I would wait. If I really thought there could be something long lasting there then I would wait until he grows up a bit and gets this phase out of his system.

Until he can show you in word and deed that he is someone to invest in, then best to step back and watch how this plays out.

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I will definitely proceed with caution. I completely agree with you, he has no idea about what he wants. As of yesterday the Cap is apparently don't with. He say that he's looking for "someone else". She wont even look at him when we pass her. But, I do plan on waiting. my only fear is that he is a fixed sign. I don't want to wait forever to where he only sees me as a friend and he is fixed on that. Is it even possible to reverse the friend-zone with a Taurus? They are so hardheaded!

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

I might be old fashioned, but what does sleeping with a woman just for sex say about him?

I completely agree with you. He constantly calls me hopeless romantic and I've told him many times that I am very old fashioned because that is how I was raised. From being close with him I know that he's not the type to sleep with a lot of girls. So far in college he has talked to a few, but only has slept with one of them (according to him they've only had sex twice). I don't like it, honestly none of our friends really like her for him, but all guys have their wants and needs..

I think you have to realise that you are dealing with a guy who is still basically a kid. You're still young, he's not matured yet. I can appreciate your feelings are strong for this guy but I would just urge you to proceed with caution.

It sounds like he doesn't know quite what he wants yet or who he really is. My advice is to not get involved with him, this cap and this mess. If I were you, I would wait. If I really thought there could be something long lasting there then I would wait until he grows up a bit and gets this phase out of his system.

Until he can show you in word and deed that he is someone to invest in, then best to step back and watch how this plays out.

I agree with the above ^^^ OP.

Regardless of the status the bull has the the cap, the cap has fallen into his "routine" and you seem to have fallen into a "friendship routine"..

I personally feel you see way too much and is way too available to this bull which is leading yiu down the "friendship route" already.

I would suggest you attain a wider circle of friends ; wean yourself of him and bring in some distance.

My Taurus physical desires were too strong for him to see me as regularly as your bull sees you just as platonic friends. He would tell me "I can't bare to see you and not be able to be physical with you"....

It sounds like you and the bull have developed a friendship and your feelings have grown whilst he has stayed the same ie his friendship with you is still a platonic friendship.

It's seems very complicated. As suggested above, perhaps it's best to take time out and not see him so much... Distance yourself..

When he is single again and if you are meant to be together, you will...

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As of yesterday there is no longer a status with the Cap. I think she got mad that he wasn't giving her the time of day. But now he told me that he is looking for "someone new". I do have a wider circle of friends (he even used to call me a friend whore) but you see he does not. I am basically his circle of friends (me, my roommate, and his roommate) are his "circle". So it is very hard to get away from him. He's always stopping by without notice. I feel like he does see me as a friend, but I find it really hard to believe that there isn't more to it. I don't know if it's just me who feels it but there is a connection. Other people seem to see it because they always ask if we're together or say that we're going to end up together. But, yes we are platonic friends as of now and maybe in his mind he wants to keep it this way, but I don't know for sure because he is so hard to read! Why are Taurus men so hard to read!! He flirts with everyone so it's hard to pick out who he's interested in.

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Wtf you need to back the fuck out. He's trying to hit and run. Your so inexperienced and he's feeding off it. Save your V-Card for someone that genuinely wants you for more than their primal needs. It's so fuckin obvious to me what he's trying to do. To make it worst, he's going to his lady friend to rub one out and coming back to run game on you. Come on now don't be so blinded by your emotions. Sun Tzu - The Art of War, "Throw sand in the East, attack from the West".

Haha yes you are right he does want to rub one out, but so does every college guy I have met so far. I really don't think that he's trying to do that with me though because he probably would've made a move earlier on.. Unless I am completely blinded. And maybe he is playing games but he is the hardest person to read and he confuses the hell out of me. But yes, my V-card is not going to be used on him any time soon so that's the least of my worries! Thank you for your advice 🙂

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From what I gather, the Taurus definitely seems interested. I am quite surprised that he mentioned marriage and wanting to meet parents so fast, consider that he's still in college. If you don't mind me asking, do you come from a very good family background with connections? Asking cos I don't like what I read about what he said with the Cap girl.

But OP, you need to read more on Taurus guys definitely. When he uses "Homie", you shld have clarified your status with him. He already showed his interest with action so many times, and you still doubted him bcos of the word homie.

My advice is ask him directly and be consistent with your feelings and actions.

Next time, he asks you out on a date again, ask him whether it is a date.

Or talk about his future plans regarding career, family and financial planning.

Love the dye on your hair, JohntheBaptist! I like this avatar more than the old one.

No problem at all in asking! I do come from an amazing family. We are very very family oriented and cultured. Both of my parents sides get along really well. We end up talking about family a lot and I find it so cute how much love he has for his family. We always talk about our futures and he has been pushing for me to consider medical school. He even mentioned that I could work with him if he opens a practice, which I thought was sweet.

I know that everyone has been saying to be direct, but that is my biggest fear. I wish I told him sooner because there were more signs but I always doubted myself because I never thought I was good enough for him. When he talks about girls to me, he states his "ideal girl". And she doesn't really resemble me at all. I just ignored signs I guess because I never really thought I had a real shot.

When my Taurus and I used to be "platonic" friends but obviously attracted to each other but I was not ready for a relationship (I turned him down 4 times which he never forgot) he used to purposefully tell me all about his dates etc. just so that he could get a reaction from me and one day it worked. It got me really rattled, but it still took another 12 months for him to seal the deal! 😄

I if are the one a Taurus wants they will never give up but you have to let them know your interest even if you may not be ready for a relationship straight away. They will wait and befriend you and get to know you until you are ready and give the right signals that you are ready...

But do pay attention to him OP, who he hangs out with, if he has a harem, the status with the Cap. Let him know that you are a woman who does not share...

Get your contract ready to get signed in blood because as TB1997 mentioned the relationship will continue as you first started out as Taurus is a fixed sign. Just keep that in mind..

As of a few hours ago, he claims that his status with the Cap remains as a strictly sex only relationship. He says he has no feelings for her, but her friends say otherwise. Her best friend even states that he seems really into her and is even "whipped". I have asked him about it various times and he still claimd that it's nothing. The Cap will purposely send me pictures of them when he goes to see her and they're always snuggled up in bed.

Also, when you mentioned that our relationship will continue as when we first started out. Since he is a fixed sign, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that if in the beginning of relationship, if he had some feelings they wont go away?

Thank You for your advice!!

I might be old fashioned, but what does sleeping with a woman just for sex say about him?

I completely agree with you. He constantly calls me hopeless romantic and I've told him many times that I am very old fashioned because that is how I was raised. From being close with him I know that he's not the type to sleep with a lot of girls. So far in college he has talked to a few, but only has slept with one of them (according to him they've only had sex twice). I don't like it, honestly none of our friends really like her for him, but all guys have their wants and needs..

I think you have to realise that you are dealing with a guy who is still basically a kid. You're still young, he's not matured yet. I can appreciate your feelings are strong for this guy but I would just urge you to proceed with caution.

It sounds like he doesn't know quite what he wants yet or who he really is. My advice is to not get involved with him, this cap and this mess. If I were you, I would wait. If I really thought there could be something long lasting there then I would wait until he grows up a bit and gets this phase out of his system.

Until he can show you in word and deed that he is someone to invest in, then best to step back and watch how this plays out.

I will definitely proceed with caution. I completely agree with you, he has no idea about what he wants. As of yesterday the Cap is apparently don't with. He say that he's looking for "someone else". She wont even look at him when we pass her. But, I do plan on waiting. my only fear is that he is a fixed sign. I don't want to wait forever to where he only sees me as a friend and he is fixed on that. Is it even possible to reverse the friend-zone with a Taurus? They are so hardheaded!

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Do not put your life on hold for anyone - bull or no bull.

What I mean by saying wait is to not rush into something with him. Give yourself and him some time to grow out of this. It could be years. In the meantime live your life. If during that time you meet someone amazing, perfect.

If this guy still is the one for you even though you have given others a shot, then when he has showed you he is someone worth investing in, then go for it.

Remember, they have to impress you as much as you have to impress them! Make sure he is good enough FOR YOU. At this point, he doesn't sound like it.

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I feel like once he feels like a friend is genuine he really cares for them. This is one thing I love about him. Once he cares about someone, he pushes them to be the best they could be. He is always helping everyone study for exams or doing homework. He has the biggest heart and will do anything to see others succeed.

His ideal girl quality is tan, dark hair, light eyes, gorgeous body, and fitting personality. I am not really a good representation of his ideal girl which makes me super insecure around him. He always says that he wants to marry someone that fits his "criteria". I honestly believe that if I was fitter, dressed a little nicer, and basically spent an hour every morning getting ready he'd be way more attracted to me physically. Our personalities do mix really really well but one thing that I've learned being around him is that he cares a lot about physical appearance, I'm the opposite. I do think a lot of guys are attractive, but what grabs my attention is a great personality. Yet while he says that this girl and that girl is hot, I know that deep inside he isn't as superficial as he seems and he can see past his "ideal girl"

A Taurus usually carries a score list for looks, body, overall beauty and personality in his mind, just like his checklist for future wife.

Within that, there will be categories that is a necessity. For mine, it is a beautiful face. Most would want an attractive face and a bodylicious body.

If you do not fit into his criteria, he will friendzone you. I posted an article before call Confessions of a Taurus Male, it's listed in there. You can work on your outer appearance if you do not fall too far from his criteria. But if you're not his fit, he won't feel much for you because Bulls fall for the outer appearance first. They are Venusians and looks are their first examination of a person.

Just be friends with him for now and don't lose your head. If he regards you as a good friend, you won't have anything to lose either since you said he helps out those he genuinely cares about.

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I feel lots of Taurus under age 40 are not mature. Some have leo and sag moons and they are the children and Peter pan signs of the zodiac. Leo moons are child like and sags are Peter pans and these qualities are formed in the moons of some of these tauruses...

One needs to tread carefully when dealing with a Taurus. 2.5 years from our early days and I am still treading carefully with mine... Scorp in 8th house... Soooooo many hidden secrets... I'm still an "onion" with soo many layers to him... Secrets to unravel...

U must be a mystery tauruses do get bored...

That's a very interesting observation in astrology. I don't know my Taurus' moon exactly since no exact birth hour but I feel he must be one of these children. He only works very hard so he gets to play, or at least this is what he is projecting at this stage in life. He knows astrology works but his focus is more on a person's upbringing and background, so he doesn't study astrology in depth at all unlike me.

Somehow I envy his ex Leo gf and his harem cos all they need to do is play and hang out with him and he shows them intense commitment and loyalty with all their pics plastered over social media. Double standards, his commitment to me is nowhere near despite the good things I am able to give him to reach his life goals.

Thanks for sharing your stories so generously and your experience in astrology. I enjoy reading about them 🙂

The more mature Taurus I met are already committed in their twenties.

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U can't envy his ex Leo gf as she is now his "history" and his harem are "temporary". Taurus logic 😉

His ex gf is history but his harem is forever. He puts them as Pillars for Life o social media and like what's written in the books I read, this group of people seemed to be his foundation in life, his social support that he works very hard for, so he will not lose them. Ironically, I am the one who can gives him what he wants and works hard for him to get it while his harem can only be depended on for play.

But he is nowhere giving me the commitment and effort that he should be giving me but is giving to these other people.

I am becoming more and more calculating lately cos he messed things up repeatedly. I have talked to him positively about it, but could not see major improvement. I do not believe it's because he can't. It doesn't feel like 'let nature, let feelings take its course', but rather his selfishness and lack of effort.

I don't exactly envy his Leo gf. It is the kind of time, commitment and loyalty he spends there and with his harem that I want. I can say I worked hard for his commitment which he is very very stingy and cautious to give me.

So far, I feel I'm the one acting like the evolved Taurus here but he is messing up with the unevolved Taurus traits, harem, lack of commitment, wanting the best of everything to be in his world, but not making the effort for it. In life, you reap what you sow. While I can understand I won't be a priority now and the 'one unit' idea, his actions showed he is shortchanging me.

He does not really make my cut. I gave him lots of chances which he is not exploiting or rather under-utilised them.

When he dines with me, he continuously texts his harem friends (5 or 6 of them) half the time consider that we don't have much time spending together. If this happens with other guys, I would feel insulted, but I'm not making a fuss cos I dislike drama as well. Whether we are one unit or not, a lot of his actions reflect lack of effort/desire.

Plus he is showing too much double standards. For a girl like me, normally people won't even treat me this way. I am already making a lot of room and dropping all expectations of him.

With his harem, he would plan travel itineraries up to the minute of train rides and exact routes, pay for the trip for his harem cos some of them don't make enough money. When he asked me to go for a popular buffet on promotion once, I asked him whether needs to book, he said no need. The place was booked way before our date and he does not have back up plans. He pays for drinks on my side, but not food or any other things. These are just minor examples.

I can understand all these Taurus behaviour. He's just beginning his career, he doesn't want to go into commitment yet, loves his fun and freedom. But for the things he can make effort, he is not making them. The longer I know him, the less interest and happiness I have from him. To be frank, my happiness memories comes before he asked me.

He wants exclusiveness but is not willing to put in enough time or effort for my side. Once, he asked me to buy tickets for a wealth creation conference 'for our future', but he unwittingly double-booked himself for a staycation with his harem. When I remind him, he desires to go to his friends and act as if he just knew about it. What if I didn't drop him the reminder? He could have update me when he noticed the double-booking and discuss as sound adults instead of acting 'oh, I just realised I double-booked myself during my reminder msg.' Well, he promised me first. In the end, I have to let him go to the staycation as the hotel was more expensive and he has more people on that side.

He celebrates his bday with his harem for more than a month and celebrates bday of his harem friends every year without fail. I organised a bday dinner with a couple of our good friends. During the dinner, he texts his friend like he is going somewhere, so I asked him, "Are you leaving soon?" He says no. Ten minutes later, gets up and says he is leaving to catch a movie. Our friends didn't point out that day, but months later they agreed he has a very selfish character.

Despite getting closer and closer together and how he values his own bday, he does not take note of my bday which is shocking because in our circle, we celebrate everyone's bday and it is such a common topic in our conversations, plus there are many chances he could have asked my bday straight or find out from our gf. I even open up to him on a story about how I value my bday cos half of my life I did not celebrate it or it turned out badly most times. In the end, he gave me the shock of my life on my bday by not knowing. Two days before my bday, I thought of messaging him to make plans, but stopped cos I have faith that he'd know (my bday is in fact on my FB). So unfortunately, on my bday he blamed FB for not showing my bday. While I agree I made the mistake of not telling him my bday straight, I felt why do I have to tell him everything?

I felt like the Taurus who lay things out so openly on the table in front of him, sometimes so loudly, but he just don't get it, don't see it and makes minimal effort. Sigh.....laziness.

Now he's away in your country. I hope Roman Bath, Piccadilly Circus, high tea by the London Eye can make him more mature. I officially told him I'd be in retreat mode, going NC for these months. Well, he did something again causing me to go retreat mode. This time, I'm not letting him get away with it.

TBH, I don't depend on him for happiness and he doesn't add value to my life. It will take him at least six years of work to get him to the quality of life that I am living now. If he is not maturing, I won't be pushing any further cos he's the one bringing on the red flags while I'm the one working for us.

Apologies for writing this here, but I hope it will also shed insight for other ladies from one more 'case study'.

Dear JohntheBaptist, I hope he will become more evolved like you one day. I don't really mind if he goes for someone better.

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Is it even possible to reverse the friend-zone with a Taurus? They are so hardheaded!

If they are really into you, you don't have to 'reverse' the friendzone, they will ask you or upgrade you from friends level. Normally, it will take time cos their usual MO is to know a person really well before they ask you to become gf.

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Then why is he in your life?

He doesn't seem like a good friend either....

I don't have patience for that... Perhaps he only sees you as a friend hence his harem etc and not ready for a committed relationship. He sounds young. How old is he?

On the contrary, his selfishness is his greatest flaw which he wants me to accept and I did, hence all the minor things. But as time goes on, I read that as 'not into me enough'. If you see our conversations, it's btw friend-confidante-future wife, and I felt the exclusivity.

People either dislike him due to his selfishness or they love him due to his awesomeness. For those he cares about, he supports them and is very very loyal to them. He is very talented cos he learns all sort of things in his younger days. I'm at least on the same par with him. His Pillars for Life are die-hard supportive of him and thinks he is a genius cos he is a top Uni scholar. But then, he could nvr get an interview for government scholarship before meeting me. I was also a Uni scholar long ago, and my friends called me Little Genius at school.

When we met, we feel happy together, a mature attraction and I see the affinity. At that time, he had a fortune stick that said 'the person you wait for will come' and 'new employment will be well' on FB. When I saw that, I thought I'm The One because I know I am capable of uplifting him for the scholarship.

We want the same things in life, have high standards for everything and even share the same health problems. Whatever happens to one of us, the other would sort of be experiencing the same thing (maybe cos we are both Earth elements). We spur each other on, believe in each other, is there for each other and will never betray each other.

He tends to categorise me as different from his harem friends, so he drew a line btw me and his harem. He enjoys the love and fun from his harem, but plans his future with me.

He is 25 and from what I observe, won't be ready for marriage or commitment at least for another 10 years. He loves fun, play and freedom too much to transit into the man that he is capable of becoming now. Greedy man, and perhaps he does not like me enough to make the transition.

I'm usually very picky but friends have told me to lower my expectations. I do want a healthy family,stable life, great husband with beautiful kids. He wants the same thing too. I see the great potential in him, that's why I agreed. I see his loyalty to his harem and family as a good thing and I see us as one unit, that's why most times, it didn't occur to me his selfish actions are an issue until they pop up too often.

Point them out, he just gets agitated, because he feels he has a lot of heart for me and cares for me a lot. I did accept his selfishness, but his actions cause my connection and feelings for him to wane. Definitely not getting stronger.

So the status quo now is I either friendzone him or leave his life. He doesn't want me to leave his life though. Wants the best of both worlds. On hindsight, I should not have given him the chance consider our huge age gap but he was quite persuasive. He's actually the first guy I accepted in my life. I believe in Fate and unconditional love, have no lack of things except for the wonderful family I crave.

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Thanks for revealing info re your Taurus. So if don't feel the love connection with him then I am assuming that the friendship suits you both better?

As for caps and Taurus men, a lot of the caps seem to be Taurus men side chicks or fwbs strangely enough! We get a lot of that on these boards. I don't think cap females are as resilient as they look on the outside and settle for whatever the Taurus male puts down for them...

For me and my bull I took a risk, sure... He had never been turned down by a woman in his life let alone 4 times... So it was shock to his ego but I had to do what was right for me even if our attraction to each other was emotionally, mentally and physically strong..

But it's not easy... They are not easy men to deal with or the "dependable" "stable" "reliable" men astrology would like us to believe! George Clooney is the typical Taurus and i firmly beloved he should have come with a "hazardous" sign written on his forehead!

They are charming and they know it and this is what they use to entice the female. Another reason why only strong females should deal with them and hold out for what you want no matter what temptations they put in front of you. To have an independent "money making" life of your own...

I feel lots of Taurus under age 40 are not mature. Some have leo and sag moons and they are the children and Peter pan signs of the zodiac. Leo moons are child like and sags are Peter pans and these qualities are formed in the moons of some of these tauruses...

One needs to tread carefully when dealing with a Taurus. 2.5 years from our early days and I am still treading carefully with mine... Scorp in 8th house... Soooooo many hidden secrets... I'm still an "onion" with soo many layers to him... Secrets to unravel...

U must be a mystery tauruses do get bored...

Thank you for listening and sharing with me your insights as always, my dear 🙂 appreciate it!

I always thought George Clooney is one of the better Bulls.

The issue with my Bull is he is a very superficial guy and he could not understand me. When I talk to you and all the other mature ladies on this forum, you know where I come from......... he doesn't. Still in his clubbing days and expect me to cater to all his childish ways.

I feel I can understand him very very well because I am intuitive and I study astrology. I can name you all his closest friends but he cannot name mine. All his actions to me are VERY VERY predictable eg I know the hidden meaning behind his actions; his reactions, the things he says and do are always what I predicted. I know he is not at the commitment stage yet, not anywhere near. He's getting over his past relationship of 9 years (last gf is a Leo) which is fine by me, but what I am really uncomfortable with is his harem of friends which he hangs out with and his mum.

Recently I helped him gain a government scholarship (that's why he's away now) and driving license. This is a truth cos ALL his other applications are rejected whenever he did not ask for my help/advice/insight. I made the effort cos he was the one who expressed interest first and I took a chance.

But still there're times he makes me feel unimportant. Talks and plans our future, uses the word 'we' , has merged a photo of our future son together, confides in me impt things even when he feels low esteem........BUT when his routine and clubbing friends are concerned, he makes me feel like an option. He has like 700 followers on social media, parties A LOT and drinks A LOT and has the 'I'd see you when I finally have a timeslot for you' attitude. He prefers hanging out with silly friends who idolise him rather than friends who are wise and intelligent. He reverts to his shallow self around them rather than being the workaholic and mature adult when he is around me.

Also, I do not feel he would ever be able to understand me, my goals or my life. I am an old soul, worldly wise, past my playing days, have my Mars in Scorpio and a lot of 12th House Placements. The more I know about him, the more I feel bored and often feel his lack of depth/capacity. On his side, he feels I am too purposeful in my life (which makes me sad consider he is very ambitious himself). So, now you know why interviewers don't pass him for scholarship at first.

I saw us together because he has a serious attitude in my presence, don't give me doubts and said he will never give me up. In the long run though, his effort in our relationship are minimal cos he wants everything to be breezy which is soooo Taurus. Also has a mum who thinks so GREATLY of his accomplishments that she is always airing to the world about his good looks, accomplishments etc etc how great he is. Can't stand that at all. He is accomplished, but not anywhere near great and his character is lacking.

My family background is actually better than his and I grew up being admired by friends and elites. We don't even have to boast about anything. Me rather stay single than to settle for less because I am proud. Anyway, now other women can pick up where I left off and enjoy the fruits of my labour. He attracts flocks of young, silly women and he enjoys the attention. Those younger chicks will be satisfied cos by the time he can settle down, he will have a lot of success and probably go into the news more often (yap, he already made the news with his gov scholarship). A government scholarship is a golden ticket to first class elitism where I come from.

I don't feel anymore enthused in advancing his life which he is using to show off to his friends and doesn't even mention me. Without me, he definitely will take a lot longer to succeed.

I know I am judgemental of his harem but I prefer mature, quality people. When I told my mum about him, she is sad cos she feels he is shortchanging me. Guys usually treat me like a princess (and no, I don't have Princess Syndrome). My Taurus admits to being very very selfish. I used to accept his flaws, but as time goes on, I really can't take it cos I know I don't have to.

Though it is said Taurus wants the best and can offer the best, I feel the things I offer him so far are far greater than what he has been offering though he can certainly do better with more effort (but he isn't). I am a typical Virgo, semi-perfectionist and will give the world to people I love. When I read Taurus Man Decoded, I feel the author is talking about my Taurus cos the similarities are all there.

If I friendzone him, I certainly am not going to help him as much.

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Hello, Nefertari. Can you please elaborate more on the Mars in Scorpio placement? I also have Mars in Scorpio and I'm a Taurus woman.

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Oh dear! It's his age.... If you are 10 years old than him already then you have an extremely long wait ahead for a family life with him.

I don't think it's much to do with his astrological placement but more to do with his age. He would be like any youngster of that age... It feels like almost a parent /child relationship... You sound like a parent to be honest...

It all makes sense now.. I have my own problems with my Taurus and he is 42 this month! I am not at all mature for my age either.. Because the world revolves around Taurus... We stay "childlike" for a very very long time...

It's difficult but I wish you all the best with that... I am not sure if you are both on an exclusive relationship but you may want to start being with someone your own age.... He will be "childlike" for a very long time... Especially if he has fire placements...

Yep exactly!!!

I'm actually very child-like myself cos my Ascendant/Moon is in Sag. Some people thought I'm younger than him cos I have a very young look. We got together cos we are fun-loving, but it died down cos we only go out for dinners which dulls cos he talks more serious stuff with me. I am independent, but I prefer to have a man who pampers me. With him, he doesn't take care of me much.

He wants to see me when he gets back and wants me to visit him in UK to stay in his place........ in his own words 'it saves budget.' Definitely no. I don't live together with a man unless he's my husband.

Emotionally, he opened up but still did careless things. Once, he wrote me a card to express his feelings and did a cut-out of us from a group pic. My gf told me he took the trouble to collect the pic from her. We had about 4 group pics together, so I read that action as he deleted away all our pics.

Exclusive in things we talk about and I'm the only one he sees outside work and he uses a lot of romantic emoticons but not exclusive to the point of proclaiming official relationship cos we started out as colleagues and both of us are not people who would stand office scandal. We are very professional and career-focused people.

When he asked me, he did not use the word gf but asked me to give chance. Before that, he was interviewing me and checking me out from a lot of sources, so I know he is interested and he tried asking me to concert twice before that which I did not accept.

A lot of history in a year but cut long story short, I gave him enough notice about not wanting to be in his life after he comes back. So NC and retreat mode now.

Thanks for lending me your ear so many times, hun. I'm guilty of hijacking OP's thread too, so sorry OP 🙂

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Hello, Nefertari. Can you please elaborate more on the Mars in Scorpio placement? I also have Mars in Scorpio and I'm a Taurus woman.

Dear Mered1th, I'll answer you in my thread: Useful reads for woman new to Taurus.

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Posted by seekingcancer


I feel like once he feels like a friend is genuine he really cares for them. This is one thing I love about him. Once he cares about someone, he pushes them to be the best they could be. He is always helping everyone study for exams or doing homework. He has the biggest heart and will do anything to see others succeed.

His ideal girl quality is tan, dark hair, light eyes, gorgeous body, and fitting personality. I am not really a good representation of his ideal girl which makes me super insecure around him. He always says that he wants to marry someone that fits his "criteria". I honestly believe that if I was fitter, dressed a little nicer, and basically spent an hour every morning getting ready he'd be way more attracted to me physically. Our personalities do mix really really well but one thing that I've learned being around him is that he cares a lot about physical appearance, I'm the opposite. I do think a lot of guys are attractive, but what grabs my attention is a great personality. Yet while he says that this girl and that girl is hot, I know that deep inside he isn't as superficial as he seems and he can see past his "ideal girl"

A Taurus usually carries a score list for looks, body, overall beauty and personality in his mind, just like his checklist for future wife.

Within that, there will be categories that is a necessity. For mine, it is a beautiful face. Most would want an attractive face and a bodylicious body.

If you do not fit into his criteria, he will friendzone you. I posted an article before call Confessions of a Taurus Male, it's listed in there. You can work on your outer appearance if you do not fall too far from his criteria. But if you're not his fit, he won't feel much for you because Bulls fall for the outer appearance first. They are Venusians and looks are their first examination of a person.

Just be friends with him for now and don't lose your head. If he regards you as a good friend, you won't have anything to lose either since you said he helps out those he genuinely cares about.

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I agree with you, he cares A LOT about outer appearance. While he says he has a "criteria", he also says that other girls are gorgeous that are the opposite of his "ideal girl". I honestly just think that his dream girl is just a dream. Realistically I don't think that he's as picky as he seems because every girl he sees he finds gorgeous. What I see, based on the girls he drools over all fit in these categories: slim or curvy, tan, and pretty face. There are so many girls like this. I am working on my body, not for him obviously I'm doing it for me, but hopefully it will grab his attention. I am tan, being Brazilian has its perks! But I don't know how attractive I am to him. At times I feel like we're just friends, but other times he acts like we're more. But I have to keep in mind that his personality is flirty with everyone. I'll catch him staring at me occasionally and when I do he looks away instantly. He also does things just to get a reaction out of me. HE DOES THIS ALL THE TIME! He'll go the extra mile to make a joke or he'll make a remark and he instantly looks at me as if he's looking for my approval or something. Or last night out of nowhere he was talking about how good I look on my Instagram profile picture and how he likes my hair when I straighten it. Just really random compliments. I know it probably isn't a big deal, but no guy that I've been friends with before has ever complimented me or flirted with me. I guess it's just a Taurus thing! But at the end of the day I am not trying to rush anything. I am satisfied at where we are now, even though I am anxious about making the first move. I am trying to stay focused on school and a relationship is not what I need right now. Thanks for your advice 🙂

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I agree with you, he cares A LOT about outer appearance. While he says he has a "criteria", he also says that other girls are gorgeous that are the opposite of his "ideal girl". I honestly just think that his dream girl is just a dream. Realistically I don't think that he's as picky as he seems because every girl he sees he finds gorgeous. What I see, based on the girls he drools over all fit in these categories: slim or curvy, tan, and pretty face. There are so many girls like this. I am working on my body, not for him obviously I'm doing it for me, but hopefully it will grab his attention. I am tan, being Brazilian has its perks! But I don't know how attractive I am to him.

If I am to guess, I would think he wants good looking girls with decent personality and temperament which goes well with him. Maybe he belongs to the type who doesn't want his girls to be too gorgeous, extrovert and stays outside most of the time. While Taurus goes for a certain look, they like decent women who can be a all-around good mother and wife.

Yep, working for yourself is always good. It builds up self-esteem. Keep it positive 🙂 People are also more attracted to us when we improve on our demeanor.

At times I feel like we're just friends, but other times he acts like we're more. But I have to keep in mind that his personality is flirty with everyone. I'll catch him staring at me occasionally and when I do he looks away instantly. He also does things just to get a reaction out of me. HE DOES THIS ALL THE TIME! He'll go the extra mile to make a joke or he'll make a remark and he instantly looks at me as if he's looking for my approval or something. Or last night out of nowhere he was talking about how good I look on my Instagram profile picture and how he likes my hair when I straighten it. Just really random compliments. I know it probably isn't a big deal, but no guy that I've been friends with before has ever complimented me or flirted with me. I guess it's just a Taurus thing! But at the end of the day I am not trying to rush anything. I am satisfied at where we are now, even though I am anxious about making the first move. I am trying to stay focused on school and a relationship is not what I need right now. Thanks for your advice 🙂

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Yes, Taurus are charming and they like using that to flirt with others to get their attention. Good that you have your priorities right. School is definitely more important. Do well in school and plan your future well. If he's the one for you, he'd still be there years later. Seek stability yourself first.

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Posted by JohnTheBaptist100



Thanks for revealing info re your Taurus. So if don't feel the love connection with him then I am assuming that the friendship suits you both better?

As for caps and Taurus men, a lot of the caps seem to be Taurus men side chicks or fwbs strangely enough! We get a lot of that on these boards. I don't think cap females are as resilient as they look on the outside and settle for whatever the Taurus male puts down for them...

For me and my bull I took a risk, sure... He had never been turned down by a woman in his life let alone 4 times... So it was shock to his ego but I had to do what was right for me even if our attraction to each other was emotionally, mentally and physically strong..

But it's not easy... They are not easy men to deal with or the "dependable" "stable" "reliable" men astrology would like us to believe! George Clooney is the typical Taurus and i firmly beloved he should have come with a "hazardous" sign written on his forehead!

They are charming and they know it and this is what they use to entice the female. Another reason why only strong females should deal with them and hold out for what you want no matter what temptations they put in front of you. To have an independent "money making" life of your own...

I feel lots of Taurus under age 40 are not mature. Some have leo and sag moons and they are the children and Peter pan signs of the zodiac. Leo moons are child like and sags are Peter pans and these qualities are formed in the moons of some of these tauruses...

One needs to tread carefully when dealing with a Taurus. 2.5 years from our early days and I am still treading carefully with mine... Scorp in 8th house... Soooooo many hidden secrets... I'm still an "onion" with soo many layers to him... Secrets to unravel...

U must be a mystery tauruses do get bored...

Thank you for listening and sharing with me your insights as always, my dear 🙂 appreciate it!

I always thought George Clooney is one of the better Bulls.

The issue with my Bull is he is a very superficial guy and he could not understand me. When I talk to you and all the other mature ladies on this forum, you know where I come from......... he doesn't. Still in his clubbing days and expect me to cater to all his childish ways.

I feel I can understand him very very well because I am intuitive and I study astrology. I can name you all his closest friends but he cannot name mine. All his actions to me are VERY VERY predictable eg I know the hidden meaning behind his actions; his reactions, the things he says and do are always what I predicted. I know he is not at the commitment stage yet, not anywhere near. He's getting over his past relationship of 9 years (last gf is a Leo) which is fine by me, but what I am really uncomfortable with is his harem of friends which he hangs out with and his mum.

Recently I helped him gain a government scholarship (that's why he's away now) and driving license. This is a truth cos ALL his other applications are rejected whenever he did not ask for my help/advice/insight. I made the effort cos he was the one who expressed interest first and I took a chance.

But still there're times he makes me feel unimportant. Talks and plans our future, uses the word 'we' , has merged a photo of our future son together, confides in me impt things even when he feels low esteem........BUT when his routine and clubbing friends are concerned, he makes me feel like an option. He has like 700 followers on social media, parties A LOT and drinks A LOT and has the 'I'd see you when I finally have a timeslot for you' attitude. He prefers hanging out with silly friends who idolise him rather than friends who are wise and intelligent. He reverts to his shallow self around them rather than being the workaholic and mature adult when he is around me.

If I friendzone him, I certainly am not going to help him as much.

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JohnTheBaptist, when are you coming back?

Miss ya on this forum.