it's happened....

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My CancerDude finally left me.

Unbeknowmst to me, he snooped on me for a long time, since we began dating (maybe before, who knows). Knew that I had casually hooked up with a guy just prior to us officially dating (never states exclusive, but over time implied). I also nonchalantly spoke with guys with whom I had no attraction during the 2 years we were together (Venus Gemini). I sought attention from what I saw as harmless places when I didn't think i was getting the attention I deserved from CancerDude... Which is an ironic cycle BC he would shut me out when he snooped something new, and I sought attention when he shut me out.

I had devoted myself to him. But because I was never upfront abt the side chats I had. Or the prior dating hookup. And when he tried to confront me abt it (which for him meant saying "is there anything you want to tell me?" ... Giving the rope to hang myself on), I couldn't give straightforward answers. Which I now realize is because when I do something that I am ashamed of or want to forget, I push it out of my memory. Things that mean something to me, my memory is great... If I don't want to remember, I block it out.

So after almost 2years if me not ponying up details that I mistakenly and confusingly thought didn't matter...because all the while he would say it doesn't matter what I do or who i talk to because he knows I'm his and that I love him... And after me lashing out when pushed and pushed to admit things that i couldnt remember or absolutely didn't so, or answers questions that had to be answered in a specific way or in a certain amt of time.... He's given me the boot. If course, I feel its all my fault and I'm internalizing it. I'm emotionally stunted and immature. And I feel lost.

Side note: august last year he met a girl at a party, during a time when we were having a rough communication and apparently one of the times he "found" stuff out. It was a very bad time and really the beginning of the end. He carried on the friendship for months and didn't tell me, until she was having personal family problems and finally deemed me worthy of being involved (which I "ruined" because I questioned who she was). They would hang out, during times when he would.disappear for hours which wasn't the norm for him. And he'd lie about it. He'd been to her house, done things with her he used to so with me, and if I confronted him abt it, he flipped it on me and in a way said well this is what you did to me so its justified
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Posted by INTJBull
I'm a Taurus with moon & venus in Gemini & I've never cheated once so bullshit on blaming cheating on your astrological chart. Having said that, I don't think having conversations with people, male or female is cheating. I don't think you should talk about sex or your relationship with the opposite sex but I could never be with someone who gave me shit about talking to people. Sounds like an insecure person with trust issues & too controlling for my taste.




I'm not blaming cheating on V/Gem. I was linking the attentiom factor.

I did not cheat on him. He and I were both seeing and hooking up with others prior to settling into only dating each other. He never spoke abt his end and I never spoke about mine.

And yes, emotional cheating is one thing, which I didn't do. Never went to guys with my relationship problems, never wanted to be with those guys at all in any way. But a friendly text conversation here and there about mutual.likes like haunted houses and such. Just to talk.
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Posted by Impulsv
all the Bulls I've encountered seek attention outside relationships and can't keep boundaries with their so-called friends. Either they emotionally cheat or physically cheat lateror continue to disrespect your relationship with flirty communication.

That's the ugly side I continue to see over and over.
Please please if u learned anything don't seek outside what's already within. Communicate with ur partner an address the issues.



You're absolutely correct except for the flirty communications. Aside from the pre dating hookups, they were platonic friendly conversations about mutual interests, people that I knew before SO. But yes, I learned this all too late.

Re: the justified, it was a continuation from the OP, apologies for it coming in much later and being confusing.

I totally understand why you think the "can't remember" is BS. I wouldn't want to hear that either, and its very hard to explain and even embarrassing. As I said, when I have a memory that means something to me, I remember everything around it, colors, light, sound, music, etc. But the same in reverse for a memory I want to forget... Those triggers that help me remember aren't there. And couple with am aggressor pushing and pushing you to remember, I just shut down.

This is in no way any excuse, I'm trying to explain my own personal way of recollection. I'm learning a lot abt myself the hard way.
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Posted by Infinite8
I'm so sorry to hear that. Seems like communication was lacking severely.

He sounds so casual about the breakup. Was he not living with you?



You're right, Infinite. I tried my absolute best to be as communicative in this relationship as possible. And on the flip side to listen and acknowledge his feelings. We had not only a fundamental difference in commmunication but thinking as well.

Yes we were living together, but as it was originally my place, he never fully placed himself here. He has left everything that is his and will return to get his instruments when he deems appropriate.
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Posted by Impulsv
Regardless the point is in a relationship it is always important to communicate needs rather than Burry head in sand n seek without ( regardless of Freindly or flirty) it's a matter of respecting the relationship enough to tell the person so the know how to make correction. Giving them an opportunity to correct so u don't need to seek outside of the relationship. Then if he still doesn't listen to ur needs then u know he the type not to work in a relationship.
Also at the same time u honor UR needs rather than suppressing.



Thank you for this. Your question about the cycle... Yes I continued it, I just wasn't familiar with how to deal with someone who pushes away like that (the irony). The unfair part is he stalked me to be able to have those cards to hold. But i do absolutely acknowledge my role in this. 100% . If I ever get to a point where I feel complete in myself to try again, I will keep all your advice in mind.

Its been a very rude awakening. I thought I'd made a difference in myself with him and how I opened up and communicates, but it surely wasn't enough. I lost myself, and was trying to learn how to swim in the middle of the ocean. Too little, too late... Though it felt like a lot. Just means I still have so much more to go.

Thank you everybody for listening and the feedback. I'm still at the point of beating myself up for this BC I feel i deserve it. And pointing fingers at what he did wrong doesn't solve anything within me... that's his battle fight if he so chooses. Thank you all again.
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Cancerian males... Ughhhhh...

The ones I've know have all been manipulative wankers in one way or another... And that's coming from a Scorpio!

It's the one sign I avoid like the plague.

When I read your post I didn't see you had done anything that bad to warrant his reaction. In addition, you say he was messing about with another girl so it's not all on you.

Sure, maybe communication needs to be worked on but I don't think this is all your fault at all.

In my experience, Cancerian males pick fights just to feel the emotion. They pick and stir because they're bored. They wallow in their own shit constantly. Have worse double standards than others. They can be kind and caring but as soon as it doesn't go their way they don't like it.

Avoid... They just like to fuck with your mind just for the fun of it... The worst thing is they're not even that good at it!

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Posted by Infinite8


@TLS: what do you consider a herem? Is it just a female friend or is it a female that you have a flirtatious relationship with?!?!?!



LOL - everything I said was in jest. A harem, in the Taurus sense, is just a bunch of female friends IMO. And I don't see anything wrong with it. And just like faithfulness is defined differently by different people, so is flirtation. Some women I've been with see mere humor as flirtation. Depends on the circumstance often too. If I joke around with an attractive woman, I'm flirting. If I joke around with an unattractive woman, she is fine with it.

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Posted by AgentP911
Cancerian males... Ughhhhh...

The ones I've know have all been manipulative wankers in one way or another... And that's coming from a Scorpio!

It's the one sign I avoid like the plague.

When I read your post I didn't see you had done anything that bad to warrant his reaction. In addition, you say he was messing about with another girl so it's not all on you.

Sure, maybe communication needs to be worked on but I don't think this is all your fault at all.

In my experience, Cancerian males pick fights just to feel the emotion. They pick and stir because they're bored. They wallow in their own shit constantly. Have worse double standards than others. They can be kind and caring but as soon as it doesn't go their way they don't like it.

Avoid... They just like to fuck with your mind just for the fun of it... The worst thing is they're not even that good at it!



LOL, I guess the women aren't much different than the men then.
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Posted by Impulsv
all the Bulls I've encountered seek attention outside relationships and can't keep boundaries with their so-called friends. Either they emotionally cheat or physically cheat lateror continue to disrespect your relationship with flirty communication.

That's the ugly side I continue to see over and over.
Please please if u learned anything don't seek outside what's already within. Communicate with ur partner an address the issues.


My dads a taurus and hes the biggest cheater lol, hes cheated on all of his gfs.
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Venus in Aries?
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Posted by Curiousram
Posted by Impulsv
all the Bulls I've encountered seek attention outside relationships and can't keep boundaries with their so-called friends. Either they emotionally cheat or physically cheat lateror continue to disrespect your relationship with flirty communication.

That's the ugly side I continue to see over and over.
Please please if u learned anything don't seek outside what's already within. Communicate with ur partner an address the issues.


My dads a taurus and hes the biggest cheater lol, hes cheated on all of his gfs.



Venus in Aries?


Yup! Lol he cheated on his wifes too.. now hes stuck with a fat meth head. X)
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Side chatting with another man/woman one of the most hurtful things you can do to us.

Crabs are idealists. They want a perfect romantic sweet relationship where they can fully trust 100000%



LOL - CC, what is the longest relationship you have ever even been in?



2 years
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Was it long distance?