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Everything you say about the Taurus connection makes sense to me. I don't want to put down the Scorp I had this issue with, but she definitely wasn't what I normally go for. The crazy part was that all of that outer stuff was *so* insignificant because of what felt like a connection to whatever was inside of her. On the electricity...lol. I know...I would literally start sweating. It was too much to handle. It would make me very stiff. And I know some Scorp women who would sweat profusely around their bull...lol. That is one of the reasons I had trouble even being around her, let alone approaching; I didn't want her to see me sweating...lol.

And yes, I have to agree that no matter HOW you feel about another person, this thing can come in and still rock your emotions. I will just say, I always felt I kept my love for my Sag separate from this, and hoped that it would go away, etc., but it did not stay separate. Eventually it crept into our time together, and I found myself thinking about the Scorp while with the Sag...a lot. I'm not sure if you have the obsessive thoughts to that point though. For me, I could barely be present with my daughter bc of how thick the fog was. The corrosive effect it had on my other relationships (and still has in ways)....That was one of the worst parts for me, and what told me it was a dangerous/all-consuming/impractical kind of connection to have.

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Eva - I also think its also commendable that you consider how the bull feels. It was HELL for me, and I often felt really bad for her as well, and how sometimes she was visibly really upset over it. I saw her get super jealous a couple times, she gave me the death stare (so adorable..lol), etc. Even seeing her obsessiveness, how she just constantly had to keep staring, watching walking by me several times in an hour. I could literally feel her being strong, trying not to get out of her seat and do a drive-by again...lol. But that feeling sorry for them....It can also be something that keeps you trapped, pulls you back in, or in further - that feeling of pity is emotional, and really the bull has his own path to walk, his own lessons to learn, reason for this interaction, etc.

I think the curiosity, the mystery around the connection itself is like crack for both sides. Even if you close the door on it, you still want to look through the peephole to see what is going on on the other side....Getting the presence of them out of your head I have found almost impossible. I've talked to a few Scorps who took it far and had that kiss, held each other, had sex, etc. It definitely didn't get any easier for them. The intensity got even worse, they describe feeling like they are "melting" into one another, home, completely safe, etc. I can honestly say for myself too, when I was around her every day? My mind started to imagine kissing her....a lot. Started to think about how far I would go....And my rules were definitely starting to bend. I definitely am thankful that I would physically shut down around her, and ignore her in close quarters, because I did doubt at one point whether or not I could control myself. My ego wants to say I would never have caved, but I really don't know...Like this energy can change what you are attracted to, I think it can also significantly re-orient your standards/values/morals....
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Eva - its hard to get where you're coming from just with how you communicate. From what you said about needing a guy who is a crafty cheater, I really get the impression that you've accepted that it may happen, and if it did, you wouldn't want to know about it. Anyway, its your life, so I'll take your word for it.



I can actually relate to what you just said!Once when i was young,somewhere around 14,I was told by a woman who is into palmistry that I'd get a not-so-good-looking husband!I dunno why it hit me so hard then But I convinced myself that all hot guys are players n so I should stay away from good-looking guys..I made up my mind then that I'd never date any hot guys n would steer clear of them come what may!Through all these years I only built more negativity about the hot guys like they'd get lot of female attention,they may find someone better,they make me feel insecure,they expect me to be perfect for life n blah blah...Not because i actually believe all this to be true..but because,as you said,I accepted the fact that I'd never get a hot guy..i was just convincing myself so that I'd not be disappointed later!If not for you,I'd never have discussed this..i never did with anyone!But deep in my heart i knew i took "the fox n the sour grapes" story a way too seriously N still living in that "imaginary truth" believing that beautiful grapes 're sour just because i was told i can never reach them!The fox atleast tried!N here i am,being hit by many hoy guys n living in denial
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I can actually relate to what you just said!Once when i was young,somewhere around 14,I was told by a woman who is into palmistry that I'd get a not-so-good-looking husband!I dunno why it hit me so hard then But I convinced myself that all hot guys are players n so I should stay away from good-looking guys..I made up my mind then that I'd never date any hot guys n would steer clear of them come what may!Through all these years I only built more negativity about the hot guys like they'd get lot of female attention,they may find someone better,they make me feel insecure,they expect me to be perfect for life n blah blah..



Interesting....Well, if you get with a hot guy, just make sure it doesn't become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you still empower that belief, you'll act in ways that push them away. I don't know how it is with "hot" men, but I've found beautiful women I've been with, to be some of the most insecure. I think there's even more pressure on beautiful women, to sustain their looks, being more valued *by* their beauty, etc. I definitely think its important not make any blanket judgments like that. I've found also that chemistry based on physical attraction and emotions alone can be really deceptive. For me anyway, its really important that the person be someone that I can actually be stimulated by, learn with and from, etc.
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Interesting....Well, if you get with a hot guy, just make sure it doesn't become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you still empower that belief, you'll act in ways that push them away. I don't know how it is with "hot" men, but I've found beautiful women I've been with, to be some of the most insecure. I think there's even more pressure on beautiful women, to sustain their looks, being more valued *by* their beauty, etc. I definitely think its important not make any blanket judgments like that. I've found also that chemistry based on physical attraction and emotions alone can be really deceptive. For me anyway, its really important that the person be someone that I can actually be stimulated by, learn with and from, etc.
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Lol!Now,though that prophecy thing is out of mind,I can't really imagine myself to be with a good-looking guy!Such is the negativity I created in my mind for them!But wait there..because there comes this hot bull I'm dealing with now...made me laugh when you said this S&T energy might significantly reorient our thoughts n beliefs!This guy is real hot.. When he once asked me why can't he be my boyfriend when he is so hot n all(yes,he knows he's hot n prides over it) I replied telling that's one of the reasons I wouldn't want him as my boyfriend n that he'd never be in the league!Which is not true ofcourse.. I'm not physically attracted to him...it's not the looks I'm attracted to i mean!N you're right about the part where you mentioned beautiful women to be the most insecure!Mind you,I'm not telling I'm beautiful..I truly never felt it myself.. All i see is my flaws! Got many insecurities!But i know I'm found beautiful by many people.. N it only adds more pressure about being perfect all the time to the point that it makes me sick!It's a whole different topic i can go on n on about which I know i can't get away with,without being judged!N no..i didn't make any blanket judgements..i know it's senseless! How can i ever be sure that the-not-so-good-looking guy wouldn't cheat n stuff!It's just to make myself feel better! I can never live with a feeling that I'm not worth the guy I'm gonna marry/date!It's kinda about me now...i lived in that "imaginary truth" for too long..
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Plenty of ugly peeps cheat. I mean, have you SEEN Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer on TV... Nuff said...



Lol! True that! That's the reason i added this above-" N no..i didn't make any blanket judgements..i know it's senseless! How can i ever be sure that the-not-so-good-looking guy wouldn't cheat n stuff!It's just to make myself feel better!"

N where have you been all this while?? I really was wondering (waiting too infact) what made you not to have any say on this thread! Started to think you just got tired of the S&T
insanity!Kinda missed you :p
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My husband and I have been together since 99'. When we were building our careers we didn't see each other for wks. That is how it is sometimes. He knows if he tells me he cheated on me, there's no going back. Preserving our relationship is our #1 goal. People need to feel attractive or young sometimes, I don't need or want that I my face. He handles guys who look or hit on me well, I try (w/out my scorpion temper) to do the same. I have had fits of jealous rage about girls showing him attention, but in the end it's ridiculous and unbecoming. I think our relationship has survived the test of time. I don't blame him for being attractive or charismatic. There was a time when he was so worried that if a girl looked at him, I'd go ballistic. I don't want a relationship where someone is walking on eggshells all the time. We have adapted to each other in almost every way. That's a Scorpio-Piceses relationship...so I think...we are learning everyday.

I'm not at all confused about my marriage. I'm confused about this attraction thing. I can't put it out of my min



Awww! How I wish I'd marry someone like your husband!The relationship you both share seems adorable!N the way he treats guys who hit on you...Woah!Cute thing! Makes me curious to know your story!! I feel so jealous n also so happy for you!!!
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You how undeveloped fixed signs see things in black & white? My husband has a great sense of humor about extremes. He sees things differently, our different views make the simplest things exciting. For instance, a GF gave me an umbrella, it's the I test thing on earth. I wanted to dump it because I didn't want anything from her. He told me to use it and make sure she sees it. I can't get beyond thinking about how much I hate her, but it cracks everyone else off.
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My husband and I have been together since 99'. When we were building our careers we didn't see each other for wks. That is how it is sometimes. He knows if he tells me he cheated on me, there's no going back. Preserving our relationship is our #1 goal. People need to feel attractive or young sometimes, I don't need or want that I my face. He handles guys who look or hit on me well, I try (w/out my scorpion temper) to do the same. I have had fits of jealous rage about girls showing him attention, but in the end it's ridiculous and unbecoming. I think our relationship has survived the test of time. I don't blame him for being attractive or charismatic. There was a time when he was so worried that if a girl looked at him, I'd go ballistic. I don't want a relationship where someone is walking on eggshells all the time. We have adapted to each other in almost every way. That's a Scorpio-Piceses relationship...so I think...we are learning everyday.

I'm not at all confused about my marriage. I'm confused about this attraction thing. I can't put it out of my min



Awww! How I wish I'd marry someone like your husband!The relationship you both share seems adorable!N the way he treats guys who hit on you...Woah!Cute thing! Makes me curious to know your story!! I feel so jealous n also so happy for you!!!
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You how undeveloped fixed signs see things in black & white? My husband has a great sense of humor about extremes. He sees things differently, our different views make the simplest things exciting. For instance, a GF gave me an umbrella, it's the I test thing on earth. I wanted to dump it because I didn't want anything from her. He told me to use it and make sure she sees it. I can't get beyond thinking about how much I hate her, but it cracks everyone e
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Eva - its hard to get where you're coming from just with how you communicate. From what you said about needing a guy who is a crafty cheater, I really get the impression that you've accepted that it may happen, and if it did, you wouldn't want to know about it.



I need more than two hands to count the amount of times Pisces males have pursued me intensely(sometimes lasting up to 6-12 yrs) because of this connection WHILE having a girlfriend or wife! Starting from when I was 12 yrs old up until this past weekend. As a general rule, I would say that MANY(not all) Pisces males bypass rules all together and just make up their own. I cannot ignore that or assume its too much of a generalization... sorry, seen it WAY TOO MANY times. All different ages, upbringings and cultures.
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I think people are complicated in general...T & S are so similar, but they preceive, rationalize, move and do things for different reasons. When I want to learn about something, I try to ask people who think the same way or who understand the reaction. I posted on the Taurus forum because, only a Taurus would understand. I started screaming for help, and the Scorpio women came out to the rescue. "Perfect" I have always had a very simple rule for all my friends & family...Don't follow relationship advice from people who have bad relationships. Infinite8 was totally right... I've told my husband that I cannot ultimately control him and I will not spend the rest of my life looking over his shoulder. If he cheated on me, he had better make sure that I never find out. He knows I am serious. If you check out the girls on the Scorpio board, there are girls who disrespected Scorpio men who get thrown out in the cold. That happens because a true Scorpio will ask you for nothing, but they expect reciprocation. If you take them for granted or disrespect them, they will freeze you out (especially the men, or the aggressive women). The women will leave everything behind and take everything they gave you away. The women are much more revengeful than the men.

As for faithfulness and loyalty...I believe that depends on the COUPLE, not any one single person. I'm not sure if you have noticed, but Scorpios make their own rules. It's cruel, but scorpios can be very d
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Interesting....Well, if you get with a hot guy, just make sure it doesn't become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you still empower that belief, you'll act in ways that push them away. I don't know how it is with "hot" men, but I've found beautiful women I've been with, to be some of the most insecure. I think there's even more pressure on beautiful women, to sustain their looks, being more valued *by* their beauty, etc. I definitely think its important not make any blanket judgments like that. I've found also that chemistry based on physical attraction and emotions alone can be really deceptive. For me anyway, its really important that the person be someone that I can actually be stimulated by, learn with and from, etc.
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Lol!Now,though that prophecy thing is out of mind,I can't really imagine myself to be with a good-looking guy!Such is the negativity I created in my mind for them!But wait there..because there comes this hot bull I'm dealing with now...made me laugh when you said this S&T energy might significantly reorient our thoughts n beliefs!This guy is real hot.. When he once asked me why can't he be my boyfriend when he is so hot n all(yes,he knows he's hot n prides over it) I replied telling that's one of the reasons I wouldn't want him as my boyfriend n that he'd never be in the league!Which is not true ofcourse.. I'm not physically attracted to him...it's not the looks I'm attracted to i mean!N you're right about the part where you mentioned beautiful women to be the most insecure!Mind you,I'm not telling I'm beautiful..I truly never felt it myself.. All i see is my flaws! Got many insecurities!But i know I'm found beautiful by many people.. N it only adds more pressure about being perfect all the time to the point that it makes me sick!It's a whole different topic i can go on n on about which I know i can't get away with,without being judged!N no..i didn't make any blanket judgements..i know it's senseless! How can i ever be sure that the-not-so-good-looking guy wouldn't cheat n stuff!It's just to make myself feel better! I can never live with a feeling that I'm not worth the guy I'm gonna marry/date!It's kinda about
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On a side note, if I was dating a Scorpio, I would never bring her around my male Taurus friends...hahahahaha

^^^^^^ that would be a very wise thing to do trust me the attraction is that crazy that even when a scorp has a bull already that doesn't mean that another bull cant come in and pull her away been in that situation twice its awkward.



Yes. That would be scary. But, people seem to only have "one" crazy unexplainable attraction. I've had other Taurus BF's, acquaintances, and friends...there were no fireworks, just an average confusing relationship.
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Posted by Infinite8JustEva - Wow... it almost feels like these stories just get re-told and recycled. Not feeling so "unique" after all, LOL!!!

I love how you relate to your husband (Pisces/Scorp is also incredible). So, have you told him everything? Can he not see how it affects you? How does he interpret it? Sorry... I'm just super curious! I think I have the same philosophy "If you cheat, you better be SO GOOD at it, that I won't notice a damn thing or else - it's OVER". But, the thing is, your a Scorp - not much escapes us! We are so observant of subtleties! Plus, the Pisces/Scorp connection is telepathic... I'm sure you would know in an instant. My husband is a Cancer - not telepathic, but he is super consistent in his behavior.



LOL. Since you have a Libra rising, I can be factual and you won't be judgmental. Thank God. I'm sure my husband sees that my crush affects me. I stare out often. My husband and his sick sense of humor enjoys watching the poor Bull crumble. He senses insecurity in men extremely well, it's almost a "gift". It would be too much to explain the T & S "attraction" to him. I'm sure that would hurt him. I always think about his feelings. I talk about the Taurus as more of an irritation. My husband notices that I spend a lot of time thinking about the Bull, but he doesn't think anything will come of it. He doesn't think the Bull has what it takes to follow through (it's been 2 yrs!) or that there is an opportunity for us to even physically cheat. My husband knows me..I'm not the type to get banged in a car, at work, or in some dingy motel. A guy would have to plan and make time for some sufficient chasing, and everything would have to be romantic. My husband can melt you with romance. He knows that I have never made the 1st move on a guy and that I never will. It just simply does not meet my definition of the "one" for me. He knows I like to be completely feminine in the pursuit.

Yes, If I caught my husband, I would do something irrational. I would burn myself in the process.He knows that I would not hesitate to replace him, just on pure principle. I have not had much luck with Cancers, but I an see what you mean about consistency.A good relationship is about "knowing" & communicating well with each other.Cancers are very caring, so they will work it out.Pisces are intuitive.I have always related well with them (both m/f)
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I've too have some Scorpio gf's friends
acquaintances that I've never had that type of unexplained spark just a mutual bond. But I have experienced more than one of those unexplained attraction with scorpio females they come along every now and then for me so much that people even notice/feel when we're vibing right away its funny I've been told by Their friends I'm too innocent for the Scorpio girl they would destroy me I was like Damn really break me.
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You see how undeveloped fixed signs see things in black & white? My husband has a great sense of humor about extremes. He sees things differently, our different views make the simplest things exciting. For instance, a GF gave me an umbrella, it's the I test thing on earth. I wanted to dump it because I didn't want anything from her. He told me to use it and make sure she sees it.I can't get beyond thinking about how much I hate her, but it cracks everyone e
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Lol!! I totally see that!!It only makes the whole thing more interesting n only makes me more curious 😄
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Plenty of ugly peeps cheat. I mean, have you SEEN Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer on TV... Nuff said...



Lol! True that! That's the reason i added this above-" N no..i didn't make any blanket judgements..i know it's senseless! How can i ever be sure that the-not-so-good-looking guy wouldn't cheat n stuff!It's just to make myself feel better!"

N where have you been all this while?? I really was wondering (waiting too infact) what made you not to have any say on this thread! Started to think you just got tired of the S&T
insanity!Kinda missed you :p
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Lol I thought I might go and try to have a life outside DXP last week... Only joking. Was busy with a work task, 26 hour shift over the UK election. I took the weekend to recover!

I'd started to read the thread but don't think I commented then by the time I'd come back it had exploded!

I think I got bored of the T&S thing a bit. I didn't personally have an amazing connection with the one I met, I just thought he was cute and funny etc. He's been moved to 'incompatible dickhead' category now. My experience here is lacking so I tend to only comment on the more obvious stuff which doesn't always relate to astrology. The other two Bulls I know, one has harboured a crush on me for 8 years but it's not happening, the other I got on well with instantly but not in a sexual way.

There's so many stories already on here and most are not that unique. If the readers took time to go back over older posts they would gain much knowledge and opinion etc. Then they might be better placed to ask only specific questions and we don't have to keep repeating ourselves.

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Plenty of ugly peeps cheat. I mean, have you SEEN Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer on TV... Nuff said...



Lol! True that! That's the reason i added this above-" N no..i didn't make any blanket judgements..i know it's senseless! How can i ever be sure that the-not-so-good-looking guy wouldn't cheat n stuff!It's just to make myself feel better!"

N where have you been all this while?? I really was wondering (waiting too infact) what made you not to have any say on this thread! Started to think you just got tired of the S&T
insanity!Kinda missed you :p
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Awwwww I've been missed!! *Warm fuzzy feeling inside which isn't wind✨

What bits did you want me to comment on?
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Lol I thought I might go and try to have a life outside DXP last week... Only joking. Was busy with a work task, 26 hour shift over the UK election. I took the weekend to recover!

I'd started to read the thread but don't think I commented then by the time I'd come back it had exploded!

I think I got bored of the T&S thing a bit. I didn't personally have an amazing connection with the one I met, I just thought he was cute and funny etc. He's been moved to 'incompatible dickhead' category now. My experience here is lacking so I tend to only comment on the more obvious stuff which doesn't always relate to astrology. The other two Bulls I know, one has harboured a crush on me for 8 years but it's not happening, the other I got on well with instantly but not in a sexual way.

There's so many stories already on here and most are not that unique. If the readers took time to go back over older posts they would gain much knowledge and opinion etc. Then they might be better placed to ask only specific questions and we don't have to keep repeating ourselves.

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Got bored a " bit" ? Seriously?Just a bit??I mean you haven't even experienced any such thing n still try to understand n help n not even get bored of how all of us here go on n on about it??Staying true to your sign eh? 😉 I'm your fan girl from now :p N about this Taurus guy being an incompatible dickhead..I'm sure most of us going through this energy phase or whatever will realize that we're totally incompatible with the other eventually if not immediately Or so i feel!But wait...You haven't been there (T & S thing i mean) ,you seemingly don't have any relationship problems,you're not into astrology (because you said you comment on the obvious stuff ..or is it just here?) so what actually brought/brings you to dxp?I'm curious 😄
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I've too have some Scorpio gf's friends
acquaintances that I've never had that type of unexplained spark just a mutual bond. But I have experienced more than one of those unexplained attraction with scorpio females they come along every now and then for me so much that people even notice/feel when we're vibing right away its funny I've been told by Their friends I'm too innocent for the Scorpio girl they would destroy me I was like Damn really break me.



I've definitely had a bond with more than one. Whenever I have hung out with Scorp women, I definitely just feel more tuned in to them, and interested in them than the other people present. And sometimes its taken a while to get comfortable around them because of the attraction there. But *nothing* like this connection with the girl at work. I don't think anyone should have to go through this ever, let alone twice in a lifetime.
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Plenty of ugly peeps cheat. I mean, have you SEEN Jeremy Kyle or Jerry Springer on TV... Nuff said...






Awwwww I've been missed!! *Warm fuzzy feeling inside which isn't wind✨

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Lol!This is what i missed about you!Your hilarious n sarcastic comments!You ease up the heated up aura real quick!There's something missing about this whole S&T thing!N that,i guess,is logic!So I really want someone who is void of this whole energy n someone who's reasonably sensible n sensitive enough to give their opinion on this!What do you think? Is it really a universe's game?? Or we,here, just accepted it that way because we couldn't deal with it? All of us here claim to have tried to jerk it off..N that we gave our best try..Do you think we really did?? Or do you think we just need someone to say this is all crap n slap us back into reality?(All the people here apparently tried that too) Do you really believe there's something about our brain n heart which "we" can't deal with?I have a hard time accepting this!I feel I'm mental to not be able to deal with it..I'd like to think that this thing is not letting me give my best try(maybe because we just don't want to let it go n not realizing that) n is not like I gave my 100% n still couldn't jerk it off!
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There's a condition called Limerence, that is the closest psychological category I've been able to find for this Taurus/Scorpio disorder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence<BR>
Have a look....

"Limerence is considered as a cognitive and emotional state of being emotionally attached or even obsessed with another person, typically experienced involuntarily and characterized by a strong desire for reciprocation of one's feelings—a near-obsessive form of romantic love...[W]here a new love infatuation perceptually begins to transform ... attractive characteristics are exaggerated and unattractive characteristics are given little or no attention....[creating] a limerent object'...Limerence is characterized by intrusive thinking and pronounced sensitivity to external events that reflect the disposition of the limerent object towards the individual, and can be experienced as intense joy or as extreme despair, depending on whether the feelings are reciprocated. Basically, it is the state of being completely carried away by unreasoned passion or love, even to the point of addictive-type behavior. Usually, one is inspired with an intense passion or admiration for someone. Limerence can be difficult to understand for those who have never experienced it, and it is thus often dismissed by nonlimerents as ridiculous fantasy or a construct of romantic fiction."


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Characteristics of Limerence....

1. Intrusive thinking and fantasy

During the height of limerence, thoughts of the limerent object (or person) are at once persistent, involuntary and intrusive. Such 'intrusive thoughts about the LO ... appear to be genetically driven':indeed, limerence is first and foremost a condition of cognitive obsession...At their most severe, intrusive limerent thoughts can occupy an individual's waking hours completely, resulting—like severe addiction—in significant or complete disruption of the limerent's normal interests and activities, including work and family. For serial limerents, this can result in debilitating, lifelong underachievement in school, work, and family life...Sometimes fantasizing is retrospective: actual events are replayed from memory with great vividness. This form predominates when what is viewed as evidence of possible reciprocation can be re-experienced (a kind of selective or revisionist history)...Dreams give out strong emotion and happiness when experienced, but often end with despair when the subject awakens. Dreams can reawaken strong feelings toward the limerent object after the feelings have declined..

2. Fear of rejection

Attendant to stress on the celestial qualities perceived, and devotion to them, there is abundant doubt of reciprocal amity: rejection. Considerable self-doubt is encountered, leading to 'personal incapacitation expressed through unsettling timidity in the presence of the person'[17] - something causing misery and galvanizing desire.

In most cases, what destroys limerence is a suitably long period of time sans reciprocation. Although it appears that limerence advances with adversity, personal discomfort may foul it. This discomfort results from a fear of the limerent object's opinions.

3. Hope

Limerence develops and is sustained when there is a certain balance of hope and uncertainty. The base for limerent hope is not in objective reality but reality as it is perceived. The inclination is to sift through nuances of speech and subtleties of behavior for evidence of limerent hope. 'Lovers, of course, are notoriously frantic epistemologists, second only to paranoiacs (and analysts) as readers of signs and wonders.'... "Little things" are noticed and endlessly analyzed for meaning.... What the limerent object said and did is recalled with vividness. Alternative meanings of those behaviors recalled are searched out.

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This limerence concept is interesting... N yeah close!Makes me think how much dwelling it took you to find this! Scary itseems! God lol! I feel relieved that there's some scientific explanation!I swear I'd go nuts sooner or later otherwise!Not because of this T&S pull but because of me not able to comprehend it!!I hate failing to understand myself!Not that this concept solved all the problems.. But something like this is what i was looking fir-an explanation,a logic!

"The base for limerent hope is not in objective reality but reality as it is perceived." You've no idea how desperate I'm to point this out n prove it!N reciprocation n rejection ( n validation n acceptance too maybe..not that we we didn't find it elsewhere )part...I believe that's what is making us hold on to this!
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I've definitely had a bond with more than one. Whenever I have hung out with Scorp women, I definitely just feel more tuned in to them, and interested in them than the other people present. And sometimes its taken a while to get comfortable around them because of the attraction there. But *nothing* like this connection with the girl at work. I don't think anyone should have to go through this ever, let alone twice in a lifetime.

^^^^^^ha consider yourself lucky to only go through it once especially when you didn't fall into the abyss it consumes you and transforms you at the end it will change your life for sure never again do I want to go through that or would I want to see anyone else go through that its ugly. but on the other hand when handled correctly its a site to see.
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Posts like this one make me feel less alone. My connection with a TM has been ongoing for three years now. We have never discussed it or acted on it. It is a constant suffering I have learned to live with. The pain it has caused me mentally and spiritually is real. And like other's have pointed out - the rare moments of time we have spent in each other's company are like heaven. The peace and completeness I feel in his presence - just in the same room is like nothing I've ever felt. I do not have to talk to this person to know how they are feeling or that they are equally aware of me and my emotional state. I have been in love, I have had crushes, I am no spring chicken. And still this connection is like nothing I've had with another human ever and it.never.stops.

I am a professional, a mom, and have a very good understanding of my feelings as well as control over my actions. I do not cheat and never have. I am currently single but TM has long term relationship with another woman and I will never interfere with that. My feelings are my own problem and I do believe if you really care for someone, you leave their life alone. TM loves his fiance and therefore she is someone in my protection because I love him. Even if I have to protect her from myself.

In a week or so, I will be physically able to completely remove myself from this TM's presence in my life. I don't know how long the emotional scars will take to lessen but I have hope. In the meantime, life loses all meaning without this feeling. It's the most addictive thing I've ever encountered. I am actually scared and depressed to face the future without it/him. And that is so irrational considering I see him twice a month for 30 mins or so (business related). Such an insignificant amount of time - but I live for those moments (sigh). I feel for every single person on this board and elsewhere that has had to deal with the intensity of these feelings. I wish us all luck and thank you all for sharing your stories. It gives me comfort to know I'm not completely losing my mind 😉 I hope sharing mine helps in some way. Best of luck OP!
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Posted by Teena
This limerence concept is interesting... N yeah close!Makes me think how much dwelling it took you to find this! Scary itseems! God lol! I feel relieved that there's some scientific explanation!I swear I'd go nuts sooner or later otherwise!Not because of this T&S pull but because of me not able to comprehend it!!I hate failing to understand myself!Not that this concept solved all the problems.. But something like this is what i was looking fir-an explanation,a logic!

"The base for limerent hope is not in objective reality but reality as it is perceived." You've no idea how desperate I'm to point this out n prove it!N reciprocation n rejection ( n validation n acceptance too maybe..not that we we didn't find it elsewhere )part...I believe that's what is making us hold on to this!



I'm not so sure if its explained psychologically, but at least psychologists are aware of this level of obsession. From what I've read on the anthropology of "love", its pretty much a universal across cultures that there is almost always a major phase of obsession. Limerence seems to be a matter of getting stuck in that state for a loooong time, beyond reason...lol.
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I've also read that its common for people diagnosed with limerence to report a feeling of having a telepathic connections to the individual....

Other aspects of Limerence from: http://www.limerence.org.uk/limerence-blog/love-infatuation-or-limerence<BR>

The MIND GAME!

A very common symptom is the process of the mind games that the Limerence individual plays with his/her LO. For people who don't know what mind games are here's an example: So suppose that you stare at your LO and await a response; suppose now that your LO gives you a stare back and you misinterpret it as a sign of reciprocation and reward him/her by staring them back.

Now imagine your LO instead of returning your stare back spoke to someone of the opposite sex which you may misinterpret as ignorance from him/her and thus in the state of jealousy you would punish your LO by ignoring him/her to attract attention from him/her. So in essence, it is just an empty mind game that you are playing with your own self and regarding it as a sign of reciprocation in order to fulfill that need.

Obsession with Music & excessive Stalking

Other symptoms include obsession with music and developing a love-sick feeling by thinking about the person. Furthermore, Limerence patients engage in extensive stalking of their LO??s social profiles such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, to explore any information regarding them through which they could learn more about them or try to find any reciprocated sign for them.

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Posted by LentoBull91
I've definitely had a bond with more than one. Whenever I have hung out with Scorp women, I definitely just feel more tuned in to them, and interested in them than the other people present. And sometimes its taken a while to get comfortable around them because of the attraction there. But *nothing* like this connection with the girl at work. I don't think anyone should have to go through this ever, let alone twice in a lifetime.

^^^^^^ha consider yourself lucky to only go through it once especially when you didn't fall into the abyss it consumes you and transforms you at the end it will change your life for sure never again do I want to go through that or would I want to see anyone else go through that its ugly. but on the other hand when handled correctly its a site to see.



I don't think I'm going to look any women in the eyes anymore....Too risky....lol.
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In a week or so, I will be physically able to completely remove myself from this TM's presence in my life. I don't know how long the emotional scars will take to lessen but I have hope. In the meantime, life loses all meaning without this feeling. It's the most addictive thing I've ever encountered. I am actually scared and depressed to face the future without it/him. And that is so irrational considering I see him twice a month for 30 mins or so (business related). Such an insignificant amount of time - but I live for those moments (sigh). I feel for every single person on this board and elsewhere that has had to deal with the intensity of these feelings. I wish us all luck and thank you all for sharing your stories. It gives me comfort to know I'm not completely losing my mind 😉 I hope sharing mine helps in some way. Best of luck OP!



Aww...this is so painful to read!I'm so sorry for you!!But hey,you see you're not alone right?? N btw i know it hurts...but i feel this physical absence will make things better N less painful! I mean..how painful is it to just look at something which you so desperately want n know that you can never have it?Infact I myself was planning to never be in this bull's presence!I'm doing everything which will keep us away n also the texts to a bare minimum! It hurts.. A lot..!He's always on my mind...even though we're not actually meeting now n won't be for another month! N if I'm successful with what I'm trying i won't be meeting him..ever again! Doing this doesn't make me happy..my heart bleeds! But I'm only trying to pave a better future for myself!I don't want to dwell..scars will remain ofcourse,but I'm not letting them hinder my growth!I may not be able to actually move on..but I'm not giving up!I don't want to be that grey lizard(as it's described by lindagoodman in her sunsigns book to describe a category of Scorpios) Nor a scorpio(which stings itself to death) ..I'd rather be the Eagle/Phoenix ..n I believe we all can be
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I feel for every single person on this board and elsewhere that has had to deal with the intensity of these feelings.



Same....Thanks for coming out to Limerence Anonymous, hexum..lol.

I do think it helps to think of it like a drug. I've done a fair amount of drugs and never experienced such intense highs. Imagine how much is going on in the reward centers of the brain when experiencing this kind of euphoria. I'm still hoping this is all just an extended withdrawal period.
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I've also read that its common for people diagnosed with limerence to report a feeling of having a telepathic connections to the individual....




Rofl!!! So you say we are all mental n need to be diagnosed?? I so agree :-P

N the mind games! Lol! See?? This is what I'm talking about the whole thing being in our own head n it's just perception... Please let me think so :p
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This limerence concept is interesting... N yeah close!Makes me think how much dwelling it took you to find this! Scary itseems! God lol! I feel relieved that there's some scientific explanation!I swear I'd go nuts sooner or later otherwise!Not because of this T&S pull but because of me not able to comprehend it!!I hate failing to understand myself!Not that this concept solved all the problems.. But something like this is what i was looking fir-an explanation,a logic!

"The base for limerent hope is not in objective reality but reality as it is perceived." You've no idea how desperate I'm to point this out n prove it!N reciprocation n rejection ( n validation n acceptance too maybe..not that we we didn't find it elsewhere )part...I believe that's what is making us hold on to this!



I'm not so sure if its explained psychologically, but at least psychologists are aware of this level of obsession. From what I've read on the anthropology of "love", its pretty much a universal across cultures that there is almost always a major phase of obsession. Limerence seems to be a matter of getting stuck in that state for a loooong time, beyond reason...lol.
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Lol...that's enough for me!! Psychologists being aware i mean! It quenches my thirst n lets me breathe 😄
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I've also read that its common for people diagnosed with limerence to report a feeling of having a telepathic connections to the individual....




Rofl!!! So you say we are all mental n need to be diagnosed?? I so agree :-P

N the mind games! Lol! See?? This is what I'm talking about the whole thing being in our own head n it's just perception... Please let me think so :p
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I mean, its definitely something astrological IMO as well...Too many T/S's with the same issue. And I really do feel like the obsession was mutual with mine. I guess its just helpful to know that a lot of people get stuck in an obsession like this, its rooted in (prolonged/intensified) natural processes, and people do get over it/recover.
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I've also read that its common for people diagnosed with limerence to report a feeling of having a telepathic connections to the individual....




Rofl!!! So you say we are all mental n need to be diagnosed?? I so agree :-P

N the mind games! Lol! See?? This is what I'm talking about the whole thing being in our own head n it's just perception... Please let me think so :p



I mean, its definitely something astrological IMO as well...Too many T/S's with the same issue. And I really do feel like the obsession was mutual with mine. I guess its just helpful to know that a lot of people get stuck in an obsession like this, its rooted in (prolonged/intensified) natural processes, and people do get over it/recover.
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I do believe it relates to astrology!N you maybe right about the obsession being mutual! Mine maybe too...but i don't want to read too much into it.It makes things worser!I'm running away ..right? That's what you call it? But i just want my soul(if not mind)to be ignorant about few things n want to give it peace!So i wanted a different angle to this..to reason myself better..
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I feel for every single person on this board and elsewhere that has had to deal with the intensity of these feelings.



Same....Thanks for coming out to Limerence Anonymous, hexum..lol.

I do think it helps to think of it like a drug. I've done a fair amount of drugs and never experienced such intense highs. Imagine how much is going on in the reward centers of the brain when experiencing this kind of euphoria. I'm still hoping this is all just an extended withdrawal period.
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Anytime TLS lol - you know my story better than most (I'm the profusely sweaty scorp TLS referred to several comments back ha ha ha!!). Something about the man kicks in my flight/fight response so bad it's sweat/cry/or vibrate in place...pick one.

I too hope you are right about the withdrawal period. I really don't want to think about this forever.
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I do believe it relates to astrology!N you maybe right about the obsession being mutual! Mine maybe too...but i don't want to read too much into it.It makes things worser!I'm running away ..right? That's what you call it? But i just want my soul(if not mind)to be ignorant about few things n want to give it peace!So i wanted a different angle to this..to reason myself better..



Its really the only route in most of these situations; stop reading into it, stop empowering it, kill the hope, close the door on it - even if it IS a form of denial. It feels bad to have to force someone out of your head/heart, but I make sure I explain everything to her, each step of the way, through telepathy....LOL!
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I do believe it relates to astrology!N you maybe right about the obsession being mutual! Mine maybe too...but i don't want to read too much into it.It makes things worser!I'm running away ..right? That's what you call it? But i just want my soul(if not mind)to be ignorant about few things n want to give it peace!So i wanted a different angle to this..to reason myself better..



Its really the only route in most of these situations; stop reading into it, stop empowering it, kill the hope, close the door on it - even if it IS a form of denial. It feels bad to have to force someone out of your head/heart, but I make sure I explain everything to her, each step of the way, through telepathy....LOL!
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Thanks for assuring me I'm doing it right!It really helps 🙂
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I know i dont go for married women. Feels foul. Marriage is an ancient institution which means something. Wanna get yourself in a mess and possibly dig your own grave (maybe literally)? then mess with someone else's wife. Not a good idea. I dont know whats up with some married women acting like they want something but I respect their marriage i dont care how they feel about it. I respect myself foremost and there are things i am not trying to get involved in. As far as some "Taurus/Scorpio" big attraction, I felt that too until I actually got to know her in real life. I didnt sit around wondering forever I saw for myself. Killed any notions of some abnormal thing. They are just people who i learned i am not really romantically compatible with after all. Now there is nothing there romantically because i know that isnt the move. No offense I get along with Scorps well usually just as people.
Its not hard to leave this alone after you have experienced it in real life and eliminated any idealized notions. The idea i had and the reality were completely different and Im happy to know that.



Can you elaborate on what you idealized vs. the reality? I often think this too. If the opportunity ever came then we would be more incompatible vs. compatible. There is something suspicious in that much chemistry though I feel it none the less.
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I do believe it relates to astrology!N you maybe right about the obsession being mutual! Mine maybe too...but i don't want to read too much into it.It makes things worser!I'm running away ..right? That's what you call it? But i just want my soul(if not mind)to be ignorant about few things n want to give it peace!So i wanted a different angle to this..to reason myself better..



Its really the only route in most of these situations; stop reading into it, stop empowering it, kill the hope, close the door on it - even if it IS a form of denial. It feels bad to have to force someone out of your head/heart, but I make sure I explain everything to her, each step of the way, through telepathy....LOL!



Thanks for assuring me I'm doing it right!It really helps 🙂



LOL! Kill the hope!
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LOL! I suggest AK47 Galil or a Sniper for this business! Oh, you may want to try aiming it at the head too. You know, just to be sure. Hahaahaha
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Can you elaborate on what you idealized vs. the reality? I often think this too. If the opportunity ever came then we would be more incompatible vs. compatible. There is something suspicious in that much chemistry though I feel it none the less.



Its actually interesting how many of you people say if u guys were not married, u still think the relationship would not work between the 2 sings.

From what ive read on all over the Internet, and going by my own thoughts here, i would say a taurus is what a scorp needs as a partner, and vise versa.

i believe that it would be an amazing union.

You have a man and a woman who will be equally Passionate, obsessed, jealous, affectionate and caring with each other. They will totally know eachothers needs and wants without saying a word. A couple who will not be able to keep their hands off of each other at all times. They will own each other. There will be no room left for doubting the love& loyalty. You will never feel tired/bored of being around each other because each sign will be willing to try/do things their partner enjoy.

Your breakfast would be ready before you wake up to the sweetest good morning kiss And You will get the most sensual, relaxing massages before going to bed.. do i need to mention that would be followed by an intense/deep intimacy that feeds your soul?

Both will try their hardest to avoid disagreements and arguments because neither wants to hurt the other.. when the connection you talk about is between a taur&scorp, even that stubborness we talk about will definitely bend and one will always sacrifice to balance the other out just perfectly.

May Sound like too good to be true.. but that is exactly how it would work between a taur/scorp in my opinion.

Dont wanna go into all the venus mars moon thing. But maybe its my venus in scorpio speaking here.. lol
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May Sound like too good to be true..

>>>Exactly...and I also value you my personal freedom first and foremost. In the union you describe there is no separation. I think no one can live at that level of intensity for too long. Eventually you will burn out. I don't want to have to walk on egg shells not to hurt someones feelings. I would rather raw honesty - even if feelings get hurt. I don't tolerate jealousy...if you don't trust me then see ya. I mean don't get me wrong, it is compelling but at the same time the level of energy is too off the charts not to get burned. At least in my case.

That is why I am wondering about Redbull's experience. What exactly did he expect vs. what he found IRL?