Was I too Mean to this Bull?

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I've known him for a good spell.

We dated, had 3somes, went to swinger parties, we happily ran the hedonistic spectrum.

But, he didn't what your gurl.

He wanted to marry this other girl. Cool, Go be with God.

But he reaches out wanting me to be his mistress or tells me that hes not satisfied. Yadda yadda yadda

He's stormed out my house, I think 2 years ago.

Well, I've been attracting Taurus placement folk in my life lately and Taurus people support/sweat me 100000 fold. He is No exception.

So i told him :

"Are you divorced yet?"

"No"

"Well, I don't know what to tell you.except the same thing I've been saying."

"C'mon Becky (my name's not Becky irl but he be trying to play me like it is)"

"Negro, what can I do with you? You 2 kids deep. You're damaged goods. What can I, a single, childless woman do with a divorcee with 2 kids and a probably a bitter exwife/baby mama. All your money/time gonna go to those damn kids and she gonna make ur life a living hell. But not me. Why would I sign up for that. I'm not dumb"



Was I too Mean?

I always thought these things but only recently do I have the guts to tell ppl exactly where they fall short.

Thanks Saturn in sag I guess.
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Posted by DMV
I've known him for a good spell.

We dated, had 3somes, went to swinger parties, we happily ran the hedonistic spectrum.

But, he didn't what your gurl.

He wanted to marry this other girl. Cool, Go be with God.

But he reaches out wanting me to be his mistress or tells me that hes not satisfied. Yadda yadda yadda

He's stormed out my house, I think 2 years ago.

Well, I've been attracting Taurus placement folk in my life lately and Taurus people support/sweat me 100000 fold. He is No exception.

So i told him :

"Are you divorced yet?"

"No"

"Well, I don't know what to tell you.except the same thing I've been saying."

"C'mon Becky (my name's not Becky irl but he be trying to play me like it is)"

"Negro, what can I do with you? You 2 kids deep. You're damaged goods. What can I, a single, childless woman do with a divorcee with 2 kids and a probably a bitter exwife/baby mama. All your money/time gonna go to those damn kids and she gonna make ur life a living hell. But not me. Why would I sign up for that. I'm not dumb"



Was I too Mean?

I always thought these things but only recently do I have the guts to tell ppl exactly where they fall short.

Thanks Saturn in sag I guess.
nailed it - you were direct and to the point - can't argue with that - it was crystal clear lol
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Wait the minute...

Married man comes to solicit a single woman who he had not chosen in past, offered being a mistress, still married and trying again...

Why would you even took a chance talking to him? And who cares if you were harsh? He had been treating you as shit and you worry he might be hurt by what you said and what? Won’t come back again to ask you to be his mistress 3rd time? You both are off...you know that, right?
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Posted by DMV
I've known him for a good spell.

We dated, had 3somes, went to swinger parties, we happily ran the hedonistic spectrum.

But, he didn't what your gurl.

He wanted to marry this other girl. Cool, Go be with God.

But he reaches out wanting me to be his mistress or tells me that hes not satisfied. Yadda yadda yadda

He's stormed out my house, I think 2 years ago.

Well, I've been attracting Taurus placement folk in my life lately and Taurus people support/sweat me 100000 fold. He is No exception.

So i told him :

"Are you divorced yet?"

"No"

"Well, I don't know what to tell you.except the same thing I've been saying."

"C'mon Becky (my name's not Becky irl but he be trying to play me like it is)"

"Negro, what can I do with you? You 2 kids deep. You're damaged goods. What can I, a single, childless woman do with a divorcee with 2 kids and a probably a bitter exwife/baby mama. All your money/time gonna go to those damn kids and she gonna make ur life a living hell. But not me. Why would I sign up for that. I'm not dumb"



Was I too Mean?

I always thought these things but only recently do I have the guts to tell ppl exactly where they fall short.

Thanks Saturn in sag I guess.


Best post of the day!!

I’m Sag rising and Merc. You put it beautifully. Couldn’t have put it better meself!
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I've known him for a good spell.

We dated, had 3somes, went to swinger parties, we happily ran the hedonistic spectrum.

But, he didn't what your gurl.

He wanted to marry this other girl. Cool, Go be with God.

But he reaches out wanting me to be his mistress or tells me that hes not satisfied. Yadda yadda yadda

He's stormed out my house, I think 2 years ago.

Well, I've been attracting Taurus placement folk in my life lately and Taurus people support/sweat me 100000 fold. He is No exception.

So i told him :

"Are you divorced yet?"

"No"

"Well, I don't know what to tell you.except the same thing I've been saying."

"C'mon Becky (my name's not Becky irl but he be trying to play me like it is)"

"Negro, what can I do with you? You 2 kids deep. You're damaged goods. What can I, a single, childless woman do with a divorcee with 2 kids and a probably a bitter exwife/baby mama. All your money/time gonna go to those damn kids and she gonna make ur life a living hell. But not me. Why would I sign up for that. I'm not dumb"



Was I too Mean?

I always thought these things but only recently do I have the guts to tell ppl exactly where they fall short.

Thanks Saturn in sag I guess.


Best post of the day!!

I’m Sag rising and Merc. You put it beautifully. Couldn’t have put it better meself!



Wasn’t she the long term mistress of a sag/Scorpio dude though? Seems to me she just doesn’t like Taureans very much

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Nope
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Posted by DMV
You're damaged goods... ...Why would I sign up for that. I'm not dumb"


Strictly speaking, you could have left these two parts out.

It wouldn't have degraded the message while possibly saving you of this dilemma you're experiencing (lil bit of guilt tripping) which made you create the thread.



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Yeah that's what's I was thinking.
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Posted by Mr_Pinchy
Posted by DMV
You're damaged goods... ...Why would I sign up for that. I'm not dumb"


Strictly speaking, you could have left these two parts out.

It wouldn't have degraded the message while possibly saving you of this dilemma you're experiencing (lil bit of guilt tripping) which made you create the thread.




Yeah that's what's I was thinking.
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Don't worry about that, your golden. Its always good to get feedback on why you were rejected. You gave him a valuable service in doing so. Honestly he should thank you. I'm being 100% cereal.
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I'll be the one to go out on a limb against all other opinions here, because I'm about the details.

Was he initially in a relationship when you first met? Did it turn into a relationship?

You went to swinger parties and slept with other people WHILE you were in a committed relationship? So you invited other people into a monogamous, devoted, and loyal relationship, correct? And there was not a single problem attached to that outcome?

Lastly, you said he "stormed" out of your house? What happened directly beforehand? This sounds like a very unique scenario and you left a lot out.

My two cents...

You had no problem being part of a scene where sharing your body with multiple people was acceptable before. Now he wants you to share him again. It's not surprising to me. You hit swingers parties looking for sex which is outside the parameters of a loyal relationship of one man, one woman. That is exactly what he's remembering; You hitting threesomes and wild sex parties. Where do you draw the line of moral character, and see that it has suddenly been crossed?

Calling children "damn kids" is also wrong, in my opinion. Referring to someone's money going to kids [victims of a broken home], and implying that you will be the one suffering because of it, without regard to the children's needs is also wrong.

This doesn't mean I think you need to apologize for something you said, but rather give some consideration to the above. For instance, figuring out why you are really angry might be worth taking some time to think on. You let other women take his body right in front of you. You let him live out a fantasy which allows him to believe he can continue seeing you as a woman more than willing to share.
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I'll be the one to go out on a limb against all other opinions here, because I'm about the details.

Was he initially in a relationship when you first met? Did it turn into a relationship?

You went to swinger parties and slept with other people WHILE you were in a committed relationship? So you invited other people into a monogamous, devoted, and loyal relationship, correct? And there was not a single problem attached to that outcome?

Lastly, you said he "stormed" out of your house? What happened directly beforehand? This sounds like a very unique scenario and you left a lot out.

My two cents...

You had no problem being part of a scene where sharing your body with multiple people was acceptable before. Now he wants you to share him again. It's not surprising to me. You hit swingers parties looking for sex which is outside the parameters of a loyal relationship of one man, one woman. That is exactly what he's remembering; You hitting threesomes and wild sex parties. Where do you draw the line of moral character, and see that it has suddenly been crossed?

Calling children "damn kids" is also wrong, in my opinion. Referring to someone's money going to kids [victims of a broken home], and implying that you will be the one suffering because of it, without regard to the children's needs is also wrong.

This doesn't mean I think you need to apologize for something you said, but rather give some consideration to the above. For instance, figuring out why you are really angry might be worth taking some time to think on. You let other women take his body right in front of you. You let him live out a fantasy which allows him to believe he can continue seeing you as a woman more than willing to share.
No, we dated but we're never in a committeed relationship.

I didn't care who he saw on the side. I had my own roster.

B4 he stormed out my house, he came over wanting to talk and again try to convince me to be in this love triangle.

I told him no in every language I knew. He got mad and stormed out. Slammed my goddamn door 2.

Haven't left much out. But I've posted v4 about him. You just have to go find the post.

I disagree, my welfare will suffer if his money which should be our money is going to child support. That's whack af.

I could be in a better place financially. If I get involved with a man who is not paying spousal and child support. Why would I sign up for the 1st?

I guess I used damn because I've grown so tired of him asking for YEARS now. YEARS gurl.

Nothing I say sticks. So I went the nasty route.

But this all seems to be having the opposite effect.

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Posted by Mr_Pinchy
Posted by DMV
You're damaged goods... ...Why would I sign up for that. I'm not dumb"


Strictly speaking, you could have left these two parts out.

It wouldn't have degraded the message while possibly saving you of this dilemma you're experiencing (lil bit of guilt tripping) which made you create the thread.




+1

If you insist on it I would’ve put something like “It would be unwise for me to be with someone with that type of baggage. It’s completely normal to have baggage, ties and issues but I’m just not suited to deal with your particular type. I feel it makes us incompatible.”
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Haha this is eloquent.
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Was his wife into threesomes and swinging?
He always told me no.

I believe that.
Men are stupid. He married a chick that didn't satisfy his hedonism yet he wants a side chick bcuz his wife isn't enough

But why marry her? Because if she's not in that life style she's more trustworthy is what he's thinking

This is how men operate
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Well, idk but he decided to take those vows and walk down the aisle.

But if we're talking Taurus, it's either money or sex. The sex wasn't on point, but the money was.

Some of these married ppl don't care.

We see them on DXP and in our own lives.

Married people just don't care.
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Was his wife into threesomes and swinging?
He always told me no.

I believe that.
Men are stupid. He married a chick that didn't satisfy his hedonism yet he wants a side chick bcuz his wife isn't enough

But why marry her? Because if she's not in that life style she's more trustworthy is what he's thinking

This is how men operate
He just sounds confused (shrugs) I would have married the hedonist, assuming we get along and enjoy each other's company.

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there is no security in that.
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Was his wife into threesomes and swinging?
He always told me no.

I believe that.
Men are stupid. He married a chick that didn't satisfy his hedonism yet he wants a side chick bcuz his wife isn't enough

But why marry her? Because if she's not in that life style she's more trustworthy is what he's thinking

This is how men operate
He just sounds confused (shrugs) I would have married the hedonist, assuming we get along and enjoy each other's company.



there is no security in that.
security in which part?

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that with all that try-before-you-buy going on, they could find someone else, someone better and leave. #taurusproblems
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Was his wife into threesomes and swinging?
He always told me no.

I believe that.
Men are stupid. He married a chick that didn't satisfy his hedonism yet he wants a side chick bcuz his wife isn't enough

But why marry her? Because if she's not in that life style she's more trustworthy is what he's thinking

This is how men operate
He just sounds confused (shrugs) I would have married the hedonist, assuming we get along and enjoy each other's company.



there is no security in that.
security in which part?


that with all that try-before-you-buy going on, they could find someone else, someone better and leave. #taurusproblems
Many men have this problem not just Taurus
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true but for taurus who handles change very badly this is possibly THE worst thing that could happen.
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Was his wife into threesomes and swinging?
He always told me no.

I believe that.
Men are stupid. He married a chick that didn't satisfy his hedonism yet he wants a side chick bcuz his wife isn't enough

But why marry her? Because if she's not in that life style she's more trustworthy is what he's thinking

This is how men operate
He just sounds confused (shrugs) I would have married the hedonist, assuming we get along and enjoy each other's company.



there is no security in that.
security in which part?


that with all that try-before-you-buy going on, they could find someone else, someone better and leave. #taurusproblems
I don't think swinging is try before you buy but that's me and my way of seeing things.

I could see what you're saying from a Taurus POV but " they could find someone else, someone better and leave" applies to any relationship on any day really.



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yes, i agree but for a fixed sign, once they are in, they are in. they expect the same from their partner. of course, realistically you can leave but for them, unless they are supremely unhappy and for a very long time, they are not leaving. it's not an option.

there is no way in a world full of thoroughfares that i would be part of the swinging community. the paranoia would cause me to become a gibbering wreck.
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Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Was his wife into threesomes and swinging?
He always told me no.

I believe that.
Men are stupid. He married a chick that didn't satisfy his hedonism yet he wants a side chick bcuz his wife isn't enough

But why marry her? Because if she's not in that life style she's more trustworthy is what he's thinking

This is how men operate
He just sounds confused (shrugs) I would have married the hedonist, assuming we get along and enjoy each other's company.



there is no security in that.
security in which part?


that with all that try-before-you-buy going on, they could find someone else, someone better and leave. #taurusproblems
I don't think swinging is try before you buy but that's me and my way of seeing things.

I could see what you're saying from a Taurus POV but " they could find someone else, someone better and leave" applies to any relationship on any day really.





yes, i agree but for a fixed sign, once they are in, they are in. they expect the same from their partner. of course, realistically you can leave but for them, unless they are supremely unhappy and for a very long time, they are not leaving. it's not an option.

there is no way in a world full of thoroughfares that i would be part of the swinging community. the paranoia would cause me to become a gibbering wreck.
I can honestly say in my experience is has not felt like that with all Fixed signs. I've seen just as much "half in half out" from Fixed people as anyone else.

But it is on people to lay out the basic groundwork for them to feel safe and secure yes, I get that part.

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interesting. fixed venus too?
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I'll be the one to go out on a limb against all other opinions here, because I'm about the details.

Was he initially in a relationship when you first met? Did it turn into a relationship?

You went to swinger parties and slept with other people WHILE you were in a committed relationship? So you invited other people into a monogamous, devoted, and loyal relationship, correct? And there was not a single problem attached to that outcome?

Lastly, you said he "stormed" out of your house? What happened directly beforehand? This sounds like a very unique scenario and you left a lot out.

My two cents...

You had no problem being part of a scene where sharing your body with multiple people was acceptable before. Now he wants you to share him again. It's not surprising to me. You hit swingers parties looking for sex which is outside the parameters of a loyal relationship of one man, one woman. That is exactly what he's remembering; You hitting threesomes and wild sex parties. Where do you draw the line of moral character, and see that it has suddenly been crossed?...

...You let other women take his body right in front of you. You let him live out a fantasy which allows him to believe he can continue seeing you as a woman more than willing to share.

Your points were well made. While I see your point, none of these shared partners during their swinging days can lay claim to this man. They were all willing adults with a clear understanding of the expectations. Sex and leave. No lines are crossed.

His wife can not be put in this category. She and this Bull made a commitment to each other, excluding all others. Assuming the wife doesn't swing of course, but given the fact that he didn't introduce the wife to DMV before his proposal and asked her to be his mistress I think it's safe to say she has no knowledge of this. For this Bull to ask her to be his mistress using what you're suggesting as reason to rationalize his proposal is insulting on a few levels.

You can make this about the OP, however this is about a man that has made a commitment and isn't planning to honour it. He isn't asking DMV to share him in front of his wife as you've identified above. Actually the opposite.



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I'll be the one to go out on a limb against all other opinions here, because I'm about the details.

Was he initially in a relationship when you first met? Did it turn into a relationship?

You went to swinger parties and slept with other people WHILE you were in a committed relationship? So you invited other people into a monogamous, devoted, and loyal relationship, correct? And there was not a single problem attached to that outcome?

Lastly, you said he "stormed" out of your house? What happened directly beforehand? This sounds like a very unique scenario and you left a lot out.

My two cents...

You had no problem being part of a scene where sharing your body with multiple people was acceptable before. Now he wants you to share him again. It's not surprising to me. You hit swingers parties looking for sex which is outside the parameters of a loyal relationship of one man, one woman. That is exactly what he's remembering; You hitting threesomes and wild sex parties. Where do you draw the line of moral character, and see that it has suddenly been crossed?

Calling children "damn kids" is also wrong, in my opinion. Referring to someone's money going to kids [victims of a broken home], and implying that you will be the one suffering because of it, without regard to the children's needs is also wrong.

This doesn't mean I think you need to apologize for something you said, but rather give some consideration to the above. For instance, figuring out why you are really angry might be worth taking some time to think on. You let other women take his body right in front of you. You let him live out a fantasy which allows him to believe he can continue seeing you as a woman more than willing to share.
No, we dated but we're never in a committeed relationship.

I didn't care who he saw on the side. I had my own roster.

B4 he stormed out my house, he came over wanting to talk and again try to convince me to be in this love triangle.

I told him no in every language I knew. He got mad and stormed out. Slammed my goddamn door 2.

Haven't left much out. But I've posted v4 about him. You just have to go find the post.

I disagree, my welfare will suffer if his money which should be our money is going to child support. That's whack af.

I could be in a better place financially. If I get involved with a man who is not paying spousal and child support. Why would I sign up for the 1st?

I guess I used damn because I've grown so tired of him asking for YEARS now. YEARS gurl.

Nothing I say sticks. So I went the nasty route.

But this all seems to be having the opposite effect.

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Oh, so he wasn't a serious relationship... And he came along later while he was IN one to get the goods. It's coming together.

Then if you were dating but not in a serious relationship, did you want to be serious and he just wouldn't budge? If so, and he knew you had previously wanted to be more than you were, then it sounds like he took advantage of your prior feelings and used it as leverage to see if he could manipulate you. If you said no, every which way you could, then he was trying and saying different things to get his way, and it wasn't working.

Your not allowing him to control you is reason for the door slam. Nothing you said likely mattered. It comes down to one thing, if I'm guessing correctly. And that's control.