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Posted by thezone
Meatloaf losing control is gonna be intense. Oh man.



Wonder what the hell Gary is gonna do to piss him off? We'll just have to wait and see. In any event, I like the guy's team and I knew that lil John had a brain under all those dreads but I honestly wasn't expecting him to win this task because of the gay factor but it's good to know that execs in Corporate America can be more open about these things.
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Posted by everevolvingepithet
It's all about the editing with shows like this, watch the public's reaction, edit some more, rinse repeat.



Correct! However, when you're running around calling people hussies, cowards, bullying folks, talking over people, and just downright being difficult because you're azz is old and tired, that's not editing...that's all you! LOL!
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Posted by PurrHiss
DING DONG THE WITCH IS GONE!

YESSSSSS it's Meat Loaf Breakdown Week next Sunday! Finally!

Vixy, for a minute there in the boardroom, I thought Dionne was gonna call Ivanka a hussy, too! LMAO, that would've been some good TV.




HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!!!

Hey Hissy!

Oh noooooooooooo....she would never do that! It would be nice to see somebody cuss Trump and his brats out though. Wonder how that shit would play out? Would they argue back? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiit, Joan Rivers had dem scurred straight when she went on her tirade after they fired Melissa. They were in that boardroom looking like fucking fools. LOL!
















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Posted by PurrHiss
I think it's funny how Gary is just standing there without being rattled in the slightest while Meat Loaf is screaming. Like, "awwww, lookit the Libra trying to be scary!" Hahahahaha.



You noticed that right? He's so not affected. Meatloaf is making a big stink and Gary probably didn't even comprehend two words he said....tee hee hee hee hee haa!!!! Classic!

Doesn't Nene remind you of a little girl? She's so childlike.
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Oh you have to. You must. That's a really great season and Joan Rivers (Gem) and Annie Duke (Virgo) are a classic example of all the craziness that happens between this pair. I won't spoil it for you but if you happen to catch any of it before this current season is up, I promise you will not be disappointed.

No, it doesn't sound crazy at all. Gary IS very cognizant of what the hell is going on around him. Very. I just think that his basic personality style (easy going) coupled with the brain injury makes him a little less likely to remember specific things and even at times to stay on track, but he is HIGHLY in tune with his surroundings.

I was actually very proud of Lil John. I knew he had a brain under all of that hair and it was no surprise to me that he would buck against type and do something out of the box. Gotta love those Aquas. Always thinking progressively. Always going against the grain. Just still kind of shocked (but not disappointed) that the execs chose his commercial over the girls'.

Nene is funny. She's the only one I would look forward to seeing on the RHOA because you always knew that she would be the life of the party. She is kind of annoying with that childishness and if she doesn't get it together, I think it's gonna be her downfall.
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Posted by PurrHiss
I'll definitely check it out. It was so weird how Melissa Rivers was running around the building after she got fired in that one clip with her messed up leg. What was THAT about? lol

I thought that was odd when Gary said Lil Jon doesn't look him in the eyes when he talks to him. How can he even tell when Lil Jon is always wearing those dark sunglasses?! Even if he's not facing him, he could still be glancing over at him, haha. I actually think he seems like the most patient one with Gary and treats him with the most kindness and respect. You're right, he did very well as PM (and his team agreed). I'm shocked that he's 40 years old. I honestly thought he was...oh I don't know...maybe 28-29?

I felt bad for Nene in the board room. I've only seen bits and pieces of RHWOA, but she doesn't seem like someone who cries often...does she? I could be wrong. It was sad to hear that half of the women on the team were in abusive relationships. I also read that Marlee was sexually abused by her babysitter when she was a child. 😢 You'd have to be the lowest scum of the Earth to prey on a child with a disability (or anyone, but you know what I mean). And she also battled drug abuse. She's such a strong woman to overcome all of that.



You just have to watch. I don't want to spoil it for you because the shit is hilarious...and sad all at the same time.

I see what Gary is talking about. Overall, they sort of treat him like the 'invisible man'. It's just frustrating that they are not taking into account his accident and how it plays an important part in his behavior. Perhaps some will say that he shouldn't be on the show at all (if he can't concentrate, stay focused, etc) but, that's the beauty of it and in many ways, the show is more about ratings than anything else.

I did not feel bad for Nene one bit. Yes, for the fact that she and some of the other women were abused but, to me it seemed like she was act'n the part of a baby. Almost like if she cried, that would somehow magically help her win the task. Like Donald Trump would feel sorry enough for her and say "ok, you win"...NOT! LOL.

Didn't know Marlee's story. What a strong woman!
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^^^ Hey girl!

Thanks for stopping by!!! We pretty much do this every Sunday night so feel free to drop in whenever you like.


WOOT WOOT! GOOD RIDDENS RICHARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!

Hissy,

I'm so proud of Marlee (Virgo) for defending Busey (Cancer). YES! Stop picking on him!

To bring it back to astrology a bit, I notice that Virgos can be fiercely protective of Cancers (and vice versa). It's a special relationship so alot of people wouldn't understand it like the Virgo and Cancer would. I've witnessed it and have experienced it for myself many times. The Virgo can always see the best in the Cancer and can understand their inner workings in quite a profound way (and vice versa) and I am so happy that Marlee put them in their place and told them that he is brilliant. The fact that they can't see that fucking annoys me...all in all, ADIOS RICHARD!!!!!!
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This was my first time watching the show, but from the comments I've read and from what I've seen, I don't think it was as simple as that.

1st, I don't think the women really won. All they mentioned and all I saw sold was the 99k from Latoya. How do you jump from 99k to 900k? That was extremely suspicious.

This is a show, that is successful from ratings. If the men won another week, the interest would have went down because it would be something expected, which is no fun to watch. They needed a balance, which I think is the reason the women won.

Also, since ratings are needed, from what I hear, Gary's personality is popular for the show. He is needed for now.

They also say that Marlee knows the friction Gary causes within the group, so she was being strategic in wanting him to stay. If they destruct from within then they are not as strong competitors.
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Thanks! I've been lurking around every sunday LOL.

Geez....I feel so sorry for Gary. I mean give the guy a break....He suffered brain damage, of course hes gonna be on the slower side of things, less focused etc. I agree...marlee really stood up for him....made me so happy! He's crazy...sure but I can see what marlee sees in him.

Wow...Meatloaf, I thought for sure he was gonna have a freaking heart attack.....he lost his cool. I bet he feels like a totally ass....as soon as they found his bag of goodies LOL

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Thanks! I've been lurking around every sunday LOL.

Geez....I feel so sorry for Gary. I mean give the guy a break....He suffered brain damage, of course hes gonna be on the slower side of things, less focused etc. I agree...marlee really stood up for him....made me so happy! He's crazy...sure but I can see what marlee sees in him.

Wow...Meatloaf, I thought for sure he was gonna have a freaking heart attack.....he lost his cool. I bet he feels like a totally ass....as soon as they found his bag of goodies LOL



Hahahaha...you have? Well lurk no more! 🙂

Exactly! They act like pricks towards him. I'm glad Marlee told them all that she thought he was 'brilliant'. Idiots.

Sigh, what can be said about the ole loaf of meat? Acid anybody? That mofoer is on sumin reeeeeal strong that's fer sure. All that carrying on for naught! Spewing off at the mouth before he even attempted to look for his bag o' shit. *smh* He really did owe Busey that apology. Crazy ass.
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Posted by lnana04
This was my first time watching the show, but from the comments I've read and from what I've seen, I don't think it was as simple as that.

1st, I don't think the women really won. All they mentioned and all I saw sold was the 99k from Latoya. How do you jump from 99k to 900k? That was extremely suspicious.

This is a show, that is successful from ratings. If the men won another week, the interest would have went down because it would be something expected, which is no fun to watch. They needed a balance, which I think is the reason the women won.

Also, since ratings are needed, from what I hear, Gary's personality is popular for the show. He is needed for now.

They also say that Marlee knows the friction Gary causes within the group, so she was being strategic in wanting him to stay. If they destruct from within then they are not as strong competitors.



Hey I04,

Oh you must keep watching and feel free to stop by anytime. 😉

Nooooo, you missed it, girl! The MJ T was not the only item they sold for 900k. I know, it went by quick so you had to really watch but after his T sold for that amount first, the camera pans to Star (who was in charge of taking all of the payments) and a few of the girls gathered around discussing how they kept selling more pieces for the same price (the highest amount they could sell one single item for) and Marlee had some friends who really came through for her with big cash amounts.

I agree that this is mos def. a ratings show but not when it comes to the money. Trump don't play that. The amount of money that each team brings in after each task is by no means fabricated. Most of the donations are given by personal friends of the celebs and given through checks or credit card payments and all monies have to be accounted for accurately and accordingly.

Gary is a hoot isn't he? I think it was a great idea for the girls to ask Trump to fire one of the guys anyway. Compassion my ass. They were getting slaughtered. They were right to get rid of one of them. I knew Marlee wasn't going to play that shit. She seems shrewd as hell.

Interest will wane if the guys keep winning but this week the tide has turned so it's game on for real now. Can't wait for Sunday!
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^^^ Hey girl!

Thanks for stopping by!!! We pretty much do this every Sunday night so feel free to drop in whenever you like.


WOOT WOOT! GOOD RIDDENS RICHARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!

Hissy,

I'm so proud of Marlee (Virgo) for defending Busey (Cancer). YES! Stop picking on him!

To bring it back to astrology a bit, I notice that Virgos can be fiercely protective of Cancers (and vice versa). It's a special relationship so alot of people wouldn't understand it like the Virgo and Cancer would. I've witnessed it and have experienced it for myself many times. The Virgo can always see the best in the Cancer and can understand their inner workings in quite a profound way (and vice versa) and I am so happy that Marlee put them in their place and told them that he is brilliant. The fact that they can't see that fucking annoys me...all in all, ADIOS RICHARD!!!!!!



That was one hell of an episode. I know, that was fucking awesome! That was so sweet when Marlee defended him. Trump is also smart enough to keep Gary around, too, because he's ratings gold. I teared up when Marlee and Jack were crying, too. I read that Jack's parents are both deaf, so obviously this cause has to be close to his heart as well.

I'm convinced Marlee's gonna win.
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Hey Hissy,

I know. I was getting sick and tired of them act'n a fool with him like that.

When I saw Jack crying I started to tear up. He and Marlee are def. what you would call a team. I didn't know his parents were deaf...wow, no wonder.
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Posted by PurrHiss
And Meat Loaf was being a total dick. If you falsely accuse someone of stealing your stuff, you need to apologize to them immediately after. That being said, it was still hilarious. "YOU STOLE MY MOTHERFUCKING SPONGES!" Hahahaha!



That man has lost his ever loving mind you hear me. Was he ever on drugs?

LMAO @ Gary just standing there not saying shit. Made Meatloaf look even more crazy. LOL!
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Posted by PurrHiss
They certainly are a team! He's a damn good translator. Only the best for a Virgo. 🙂

I think he was definitely on drugs in the past. I was proud of Gary when he just stood there in silence while Meat Loaf freaked out like that. I also LMAO'd when he threw Gary's spray paint at him and yelled, "TAKE YOUR FUCKING SPRAY PAINT!" Then, when Gary caught it, he said, "thank you very much" in kind of a singsongy, slightly sarcastic way, and Meat Loaf's response was "SHUT THE FUCK UP!" Damn, lol.

Mark seems to love the gossip even more than the girls. He's always talking crap in the "confessionals", especially about Gary, then plays nice guy in front of all the dudes. I don't like that. He'll probably be the men's PM next week since he's the only one left who hasn't done it yet. I hope he fails and gets fired, lol. And obviously Hope will go home next week if the girls lose because she doesn't really do anything, and Trump likes Latoya, so even if she's PM and fails, she won't be fired.

I loved that part in the beginning when Nene was telling Trump about how Dionne called her a coward, and when he asked her if that surprised her, she said, "No, because she's been an old, bossy lady since she's been here" and the girls all started cracking up. That was hilarious!

You can tell that the Star/Nene feud is brewing. I was cracking up when Star asked how to get the paint off her hand and Nene said, "you just go over to the sink, girl, and put some water over it." Then when Star told her not to patronize her, she just said, "no one's patronizing your ass." HAHAHA! I love how Nene is so not starstruck by anyone.



Busey officially has a new fan in me. 🙂 I like the way he just lets shit roll right off his back. He is so not affected. No offense, but one would think that he was the Libra and Meatloaf the Cancer (he's quite emotional is what I mean...and I know he has those Pisces placements to thank for that! 😉)

Yeah, got my eye on Mark. Troublemaker. Always pulling out that phone to record something to possibly use against somebody later on in the boardroom. *rolls eyes*

I'll say it again: Nene's childishness is going to be her downfall. Funny she is but, she's starting a bit too much shit with Star, and for what? Half the time Star isn't even paying her ass no mind. LOL! She reminds me of a 2 year old starving for attention.
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"Exactly! They act like pricks towards him. I'm glad Marlee told them all that she thought he was 'brilliant'. Idiots."

I couldn't agree more.. Mark Mcgraff does look pretty jittery & impatient to find any loop-hole to get rid of him. They all do. He handled himself with pure class against meatloaf. I've grown even more respect for the guy.. Busey all the way to the end, for me!



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Posted by PurrHiss
I LOVE this post from imdb.com's Celebrity Apprentice message board. Whoever wrote this is exactly right:

"Busey was sitting there quietly putzing around with his art supplies not bothering a soul.

Meatloaf was busy looking for his missing yellow and blue paint along with a sponge.

Meatloaf sees the same items on Busey's table.

Meatloaf confronts him and Busey ends up saying, very casually and non-confrontationaly, that the items in question were in his own cart at the store.

Meatloaf freaks out and, amongst saying other things, threatens to put him(Busey) "in the hospital in less than 4 minutes".

Moments later, Meatloaf's missing items are located, by the short guy with the pi $ $ y attitude, nowhere near Busey who, I might add, was able to keep control of and not lose the items he purchased for himself. Ummm, who's got more focus? I digress.

The cameras, eventually, show Meatloaf apologizing for the way he handled "it".

Handled "it"?

WTF is "it"? Busey did absolutely nothing so there was nothing to "handle".

So, it took the entire day for Meatloaf, who realized within minutes that he was 200% wrong for his childish, bullying outburst of physical violence, towards a traumatic brain injury survivor, to apologize to someone who did absolutely NOTHING wrong to begin with. HE NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR INSINUATING BUSEY STOLE HIS ITEMS AND HE NEVER APOLOGIZED FOR HIS THREAT OF VIOLENCE.

All he did was apologize for the way he handled it. As if he should have done it but should have done it differently.

What a slob. AND, nobody in the room said squat to him about it.

Busey should've jammed a paintbrush handle in Meatloaf's eye.

In the Boardroom, when asked what happened, Meatloaf said that he handled it(again) wrong "when WE went at it".

"WE"?? "We" didn't go at it. YOU went after Busey like a raving lunatic. Busey didn't do or say a thing. Again, what a slob Meatloaf is.

I kinda wish Canseco were there just to see how he would react to the bully. He didn't like the way Hatch treated Cassidy and I kinda think he took a liking to Busey.

BTW, traumatic brain injury(TBI) can COMPLETELY change a person's personality and way of doing things. It is beyond their own control. All of Busey's actions are classic symptoms of TBI. Not his fault. To yell at or belittle Busey is like kicking someone in a wheelchair for not bein
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"Exactly! They act like pricks towards him. I'm glad Marlee told them all that she thought he was 'brilliant'. Idiots."

I couldn't agree more.. Mark Mcgraff does look pretty jittery & impatient to find any loop-hole to get rid of him. They all do. He handled himself with pure class against meatloaf. I've grown even more respect for the guy.. Busey all the way to the end, for me!





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Stop by anytime!

Oh lord Mark *smh* I actually expected more of him but so far he hasn't really demonstrated anything other than the potential to be an underhanded jerk. Definitely NOT rooting for him.
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Posted by thezone
As a fan I like Gary on the show but if I was working with him on a daily basis I do not think I could have the patience for him myself.



Hey there,

I can def. see how one would feel that way. He's sort of like a Dionne in that he's sort of in a league of his own and is a bit hard to manage but, the fact that he's a nice guy makes him a bit more bearable. Could you imagine if he was a mean, bullying, egotistical lunatic like Dionne? One word: DI-ZAS-TUH!
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Okay, I don't like this.

It's time for Nene's ass to go. I could understand that she may not be 'in love' with Latoya but she clearly does not respect her and her attitude towards her is just downright rude and mean.

Calling her 'Casper' was completely uncalled for. Nene is a rude, childish bitch, and needs to be put in her place. She DID NOT have to speak to Latoya in that fashion. She wasn't the perfect PM but she did win the task mainly due to HER concept and FOCUS on brand messaging.

And how the fuck can Nene say to her "the only reason you got here is because of your last name"...—?? Then please tell me Nene - how the FUCK did you get there? Certainly NOT because you're some big and respected celebrity. More like because you're a washed-up hasbeen from "The RHOA".

I can't wait 'til Trump says "you're fired" to that bitch.

Way to go Latoya and I'm happy you didn't stoop to her level.

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Mark should be fired. Manwhore.

So mad at Lil John for telling Gary to shut up. How fucking disrespectful. He should of been fired on the spot just for that shit alone. If I was in that boardroom I would have pulled 7 dreads out of his motherfucking head. Imp.

Meatloaf...can't stand him. He looks like he needs to be dumped in a tub of clorox, lysol and bleach. Yuck.

"we don't want to work with you Gary, we have to". Fucker.
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VV I can't stand Nene when she has her psychotic episodes and worse no one does anything. They should tackle her and put a dog muzzle on that nutcase. They all just sat there like a bunch of wimps and didn't stick up for Latoya. That's so spineless. I also liked how Latoya stayed calm but I saw on the Wendy Williams show that she is now friends with Nene and they keep in touch over the phone. I would never be friends after that.

Hahahaha@meatloaf and tub of clorax
Wait till they see Gary come back lol

and Purr thanks for the freak out clip - Meatloaf needs help WTF!!
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VV I can't stand Nene when she has her psychotic episodes and worse no one does anything. They should tackle her and put a dog muzzle on that nutcase. They all just sat there like a bunch of wimps and didn't stick up for Latoya. That's so spineless. I also liked how Latoya stayed calm but I saw on the Wendy Williams show that she is now friends with Nene and they keep in touch over the phone. I would never be friends after that.

Hahahaha@meatloaf and tub of clorax
Wait till they see Gary come back lol

and Purr thanks for the freak out clip - Meatloaf needs help WTF!!



Hey VD!

Nene is a spoiled child. She's petty, rude and disrespectful.

LOL @ 'dog muzzle her'. She definitely needs to be told to STFU!

I was proud of Latoya. I've gained more respect for her. Nene just feels threatened by everyone it seems.

Thanks for that tidbit and it's nice to know they could put their differences behind them after the show and move forward like two adults.

Can't wait for this week's episode!

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Posted by thezone
Ugh you women and youre Gary lovebus! haha
I can no longer stand him. He's annoying and a sabotager. Lil Jon had every right to tell him to shut up. HE NEVER SHUTS UP. Him and Nene should just be in a room together and talk each other to death.



Zone,

I completely agree. He does have an extremely annoying side to him but I don't like to see people get beat up on. It makes me sad, it's cruel, and some of these folks are real bullies.

I def. don't think Gary's gonna win. Hell, I'll give him about 3 more episodes before Trump gives him the ole heave ho, LOL, and I could only imagine if he and Nene were in a room together....shiiiiiit, now that would be some reality tv! hahahahaa
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I also hate how Meat Loaf flat-out LIES about what Gary says and does.

For example, last night when that lady was talking about how the teenagers love the tanning lotion, Gary said, "It gives you a sexual feeling." OBVIOUSLY he was either trying to say that it make the teenagers feel sexual around *each other* by putting it on each other, or that they feel sexier with their tans. Then Meat Loaf turned it around and tried to make Gary look like some sort of pedophile by saying that Gary said, "It makes me horny." WTF is wrong with him? He's such a snake.



He was lying through his caps. I was so pissed. He was really trying to get Gary the eff out of there. Sheesh. I've never really been a fan of Meatloaf and this only serves as more of a reason not to be.
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Okay, I don't like this.

It's time for Nene's ass to go. I could understand that she may not be 'in love' with Latoya but she clearly does not respect her and her attitude towards her is just downright rude and mean.

Calling her 'Casper' was completely uncalled for. Nene is a rude, childish bitch, and needs to be put in her place. She DID NOT have to speak to Latoya in that fashion. She wasn't the perfect PM but she did win the task mainly due to HER concept and FOCUS on brand messaging.

And how the fuck can Nene say to her "the only reason you got here is because of your last name"...—?? Then please tell me Nene - how the FUCK did you get there? Certainly NOT because you're some big and respected celebrity. More like because you're a washed-up hasbeen from "The RHOA".

I can't wait 'til Trump says "you're fired" to that bitch.

Way to go Latoya and I'm happy you didn't stoop to her level.



La Toya has really impressed me (as a person). I didn't know much about her (and still don't because obv. it's a just a TV show and you can never know for sure), but she seems like a genuinely kind person with a good heart. I hate how the sweet people are the ones being bullied right now (her and Gary). Even Trump was over-the-top mean to Gary when he was chewing him out and telling him to shape up and keep his mouth shut, etc. At least he still fired Mark, though. Ugh, did anyone else get a sleazy used car salesman vibe from Mark?
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I think Trump just put it down for Gary because quite honestly, he has screwed up a bit and the fact that he has had a brain injury and the type of 'personality' that he does, they can only use that for excuses but for so long. It's time for him to shape up or ship out. I wonder if Trump was aware beforehand of Gary's 'unique ways' before he brought him aboard? Do you think that if he would have known prior to, that Gary is sort of 'all over the place' that he would have still casted him?
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Posted by VirgoVixxxen
I think Trump just put it down for Gary because quite honestly, he has screwed up a bit and the fact that he has had a brain injury and the type of 'personality' that he does, they can only use that for excuses but for so long. It's time for him to shape up or ship out. I wonder if Trump was aware beforehand of Gary's 'unique ways' before he brought him aboard? Do you think that if he would have known prior to, that Gary is sort of 'all over the place' that he would have still casted him?



Oh, I think he definitely knew about Gary's brain injury/wacky behavior beforehand, and that that's WHY he cast him (and Nene). It's all about the ratings and drama. No one wants to see the celebrities behaving (well, most don't). They want the craziness, fighting, and juicy stuff! He seemed to know a lot about Gary in the first few episodes, and commented on his personality. I'm sure next season they'll have even crazier celebs! 😄 But you're right, he probably lectured Gary a little because he wants him to stick around because people love to watch him, so he can't act TOO crazy or else Trump will look *completely* biased for not firing him.

I guess I just felt bad for Gary because everyone was talking about what a burden he is, telling him to shut up, etc. He just looked so sad & I felt for him.
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Absolutely. Drama = good/high ratings (sadly)

Nobody would watch if everyone was "making nice" with eachother.

More than anything I think Trump just wants him to get his shit together because although he's tired of watching people bully him, while he's steady firing other people and keeping Gary on, it's a bad reflection on him.
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Posted by virgodreamz
Gary is with the rainbows now (or whatever he was mumbling about in the car at the end lol)

Also lmao@kaboy

Now what are the men going to do when they have to turn on each other? I wonder who the new target will be.
I'm guessing Meatloaf because he's so emotional



Hey VD!

Welp, guess it was his time to go. There really was no other choice. Who told him to go off on a tangent like that? LMFAO!

I'm with you. Meatloaf will be the next target. Too emotional. It'll be easy to get rid of him.

Lil John (Aqua) & John Rich (Cap) - that's going to be interesting. They're both pretty 'cold' and detached signs so I doubt it will come down to emotionality. It will be more about who makes the best PM (but usually at this point in the game Trump tends to make the teams co-ed so it's possible that neither of them will have the opportunity to be PM's again).

I think another thing that people have to realize is that Trump is a business man and the appearance of his employees have to reflect the traditional business look. For this reason alone, I highly doubt he would ever hire a Lil John type to work aboard his ship. John Rich has more of the business look. He's pretty clean-cut and you could always put a suit on him, and toss the cowboy hat/boots to the side. LOL.

We'll just have to see!