Why did you become a mom?

Sorry to be so confrontational as an out- antinatalist. I keep trying to dump my therapists, my sister (who is an aspiring mom) pretty much threatened me out of it, so I'm asking my therapists why creating more life was the sane and smart thing for each of them to do. It is exceedingly difficult for me to respect someone who clutters the world with more human litter and perpetuates the cycle of suffering and anguish.

If you all have good reasons, I'd love to know them. If gestating the pregnancy was essentially the only viable option (like in virgooppps case where she wasn't aware till she was like third trimester), I respect that.

I don't see how I'm the crazy one if the justification I can perceive is:

1. to keep a man. unless you really are that incompetent that you need one.

2. "I want little clones" and "muh primal maternal instinct"

3. to carry on the family name

4. slave labor

5. gibs

6. "I want to fit in and not raise questions"

7. "God said to"

thats fair if your BC failed and you noticed too late and you're anti-abortion for spiritual reasons (and for your own health). if you had an idea that you might get pregnant 24-72 hrs after sex, plan b is affordable for anyone.

it upsets me that I'll be locked up for not wanting to carry on in a world full of people who think that birth is fair and even that children should be grateful to their parents for conceiving them

Posted by AcutelyUnaware
I don't wanna be a dad because I don't have the patience to deal with bad ass kids, little or grown.


Little kids get their asses whipped and older kids (teens) get the police called on em.

thats another thing. people think they can raise proper, upstanding offspring. if you move, or keep your child in some high-drug trafficking midwestern town you're setting them up with the higher risk of building a meth lab in your home (that might explode). Just from environmental exposure. Shit if you refuse to live somewhere decent (not that there are any decent drug-free environments to raise a child), it might be wise to try to plan for your child to have a non-criminal astro sign xD (no water signs or Tauruses)

I'm sorry for my leaking limbic system, guys

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Posted by MidAtBest
I'm sorry for my leaking limbic system, guys

They say stem cell therapy can help...

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I feel like there's a dead baby joke here somewhere 💀

I’d always wanted to be a mum as I’m nurturing and felt that biological urge to be pregnant. I couldn’t imagine going through life without being a mum. Both my parents loved children and I grew up around that feeling. It’s actually been the making of me, taught me patience and how to love unconditionally.

I love him so much❤️and now he’s a man we are the best of friends

Wouldn’t have missed it for the world.

🙏

Ever since I was a little girl I knew I wanted to be a mom. I adored kids and had a strong desire to have my own. Now at age 42 nearing 43 that dream is slowly diminishing and it made me sad at first.

However, now that I work around kids all day I have realized it’s a blessing I never became a mom. I still adore children….don't get me wrong. It’s just I have learned through this job that I don’t have the patience for them. Perhaps I’d feel differently if they were my own flesh and blood….who knows? I also fear becoming like my mother. Also don’t like the idea of having a kid so late in life. Had I had one in my twenties or early thirties maybe that would be different. At this point in my life though I’m at peace with not experiencing motherhood. I still have moments where I get a bit melancholic that it didn’t happen for me, but I think my life ended up exactly how it was supposed to.

“Human litter”

😬

Posted by TarvosTrigaranos
Being serious though. Were your parents stable? Not necessarily together, just stable.

both mom and stepmom are aggressive and volatile

I share the same thoughts about how pointless it is to bring a kid into this world unless you are a billionaire and the kid will probably have a good life with minimal suffering.

For me- I don't have a kid because so far I never met a guy I wanted to breed with lol. I got really close but it wasn't 100 percent I have to breed with him. I'm very animalistic like that 😝 I'm philosophical too but if I met such a man I know my animal instinct would take over 😂 I never cared that much about having kids though.

My older sister was more like into marrying someone and having a kid because it's how you fit in with society. She doesn't like sex or animalistic sides of things that much. A very responsible, fun and hardworking person though. Her husband is similar.

Another girl I know had 3 babies and she was also a great mom but she is head over heels in love with her husband and the sex is phenomenal. Which is what I would need 😛 An orgasmic high that would last for some decades that I forget what life or death is lol

Posted by Polyannanana
I share the same thoughts about how pointless it is to bring a kid into this world unless you are a billionaire and the kid will probably have a good life with minimal suffering.


For me- I don't have a kid because so far I never met a guy I wanted to breed with lol. I got really close but it wasn't 100 percent I have to breed with him. I'm very animalistic like that 😝 I'm philosophical too but if I met such a man I know my animal instinct would take over 😂 I never cared that much about having kids though.


My older sister was more like into marrying someone and having a kid because it's how you fit in with society. She doesn't like sex or animalistic sides of things that much. A very responsible, fun and hardworking person though. Her husband is similar.


Another girl I know had 3 babies and she was also a great mom but she is head over heels in love with her husband and the sex is phenomenal. Which is what I would need 😛 An orgasmic high that would last for some decades that I forget what life or death is lol

A billionaire?

My ex and I aren’t particularly wealthy and our son is having a great life ….. having bucket loads of money doesn’t guarantee happiness, love and emotional support are more important and which can’t be bought.

Posted by Polyannanana
I share the same thoughts about how pointless it is to bring a kid into this world unless you are a billionaire and the kid will probably have a good life with minimal suffering.


For me- I don't have a kid because so far I never met a guy I wanted to breed with lol. I got really close but it wasn't 100 percent I have to breed with him. I'm very animalistic like that 😝 I'm philosophical too but if I met such a man I know my animal instinct would take over 😂 I never cared that much about having kids though.


My older sister was more like into marrying someone and having a kid because it's how you fit in with society. She doesn't like sex or animalistic sides of things that much. A very responsible, fun and hardworking person though. Her husband is similar.


Another girl I know had 3 babies and she was also a great mom but she is head over heels in love with her husband and the sex is phenomenal. Which is what I would need 😛 An orgasmic high that would last for some decades that I forget what life or death is lol

I love that! I agree, billionaires should go on and have 3-by-3 as their hearts desire. That much money changes everything. (Except mental and physical health to some degree). I also agree about never finding a suitable partner to make a baby with. Tbh I loved 3 of my exes enough and would have. One of them, we got plan b, he didn't want to (he wanted to keep it) but it was like our first time ever having sex, I hardly knew him. I wish I had kept that baby. I guess just because of my feelings for him. Like in a selfless way. He wanted another child, still does. I fell in love later.

Also I totally agree, marriage and kids are like a prerequisite to promotions (or maintaining a promotion) in esp conservative-leaning companies. But really all of them. It's ironic since kids require days off and bring home illness. But married parents seem more sane and upright 🤷

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Posted by Polyannanana
I share the same thoughts about how pointless it is to bring a kid into this world unless you are a billionaire and the kid will probably have a good life with minimal suffering.

For me- I don't have a kid because so far I never met a guy I wanted to breed with lol. I got really close but it wasn't 100 percent I have to breed with him. I'm very animalistic like that 😝 I'm philosophical too but if I met such a man I know my animal instinct would take over 😂 I never cared that much about having kids though.

My older sister was more like into marrying someone and having a kid because it's how you fit in with society. She doesn't like sex or animalistic sides of things that much. A very responsible, fun and hardworking person though. Her husband is similar.

Another girl I know had 3 babies and she was also a great mom but she is head over heels in love with her husband and the sex is phenomenal. Which is what I would need 😛 An orgasmic high that would last for some decades that I forget what life or death is lol

A billionaire?

My ex and I aren’t particularly wealthy and our son is having a great life ….. having bucket loads of money doesn’t guarantee happiness, love and emotional support are more important and which can’t be bought.

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You sound like you have a very healthy natural positive outlook on life so your son is lucky to carry your genes 😀

But scientists say stuff like half of the world's young population is on antidepressants and that by 2050 there will be world wars due to overpopulation of the world so not enough food or water to go around for everyone and that's worrying you know 😂

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Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by Polyannanana
I share the same thoughts about how pointless it is to bring a kid into this world unless you are a billionaire and the kid will probably have a good life with minimal suffering.

For me- I don't have a kid because so far I never met a guy I wanted to breed with lol. I got really close but it wasn't 100 percent I have to breed with him. I'm very animalistic like that 😝 I'm philosophical too but if I met such a man I know my animal instinct would take over 😂 I never cared that much about having kids though.

My older sister was more like into marrying someone and having a kid because it's how you fit in with society. She doesn't like sex or animalistic sides of things that much. A very responsible, fun and hardworking person though. Her husband is similar.

Another girl I know had 3 babies and she was also a great mom but she is head over heels in love with her husband and the sex is phenomenal. Which is what I would need 😛 An orgasmic high that would last for some decades that I forget what life or death is lol

A billionaire?
My ex and I aren’t particularly wealthy and our son is having a great life ….. having bucket loads of money doesn’t guarantee happiness, love and emotional support are more important and which can’t be bought.
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You sound like you have a very healthy natural positive outlook on life so your son is lucky to carry your genes 😀


But scientists say stuff like half of the world's young population is on antidepressants and that by 2050 there will be world wars due to overpopulation of the world so not enough food or water to go around for everyone and that's worrying you know 😂

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Not to mention fossil fuels

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Posted by Polyannanana
I share the same thoughts about how pointless it is to bring a kid into this world unless you are a billionaire and the kid will probably have a good life with minimal suffering.

For me- I don't have a kid because so far I never met a guy I wanted to breed with lol. I got really close but it wasn't 100 percent I have to breed with him. I'm very animalistic like that 😝 I'm philosophical too but if I met such a man I know my animal instinct would take over 😂 I never cared that much about having kids though.

My older sister was more like into marrying someone and having a kid because it's how you fit in with society. She doesn't like sex or animalistic sides of things that much. A very responsible, fun and hardworking person though. Her husband is similar.

Another girl I know had 3 babies and she was also a great mom but she is head over heels in love with her husband and the sex is phenomenal. Which is what I would need 😛 An orgasmic high that would last for some decades that I forget what life or death is lol

I love that! I agree, billionaires should go on and have 3-by-3 as their hearts desire. That much money changes everything. (Except mental and physical health to some degree). I also agree about never finding a suitable partner to make a baby with. Tbh I loved 3 of my exes enough and would have. One of them, we got plan b, he didn't want to (he wanted to keep it) but it was like our first time ever having sex, I hardly knew him. I wish I had kept that baby. I guess just because of my feelings for him. Like in a selfless way. He wanted another child, still does. I fell in love later.


Also I totally agree, marriage and kids are like a prerequisite to promotions (or maintaining a promotion) in esp conservative-leaning companies. But really all of them. It's ironic since kids require days off and bring home illness. But married parents seem more sane and upright 🤷

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That's sad but even being able to have those kinds of strong feelings for some people in our lives is kind of cool. Having a kid is not a measurement of love. Or anything else.

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Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by Polyannanana
I share the same thoughts about how pointless it is to bring a kid into this world unless you are a billionaire and the kid will probably have a good life with minimal suffering.

For me- I don't have a kid because so far I never met a guy I wanted to breed with lol. I got really close but it wasn't 100 percent I have to breed with him. I'm very animalistic like that 😝 I'm philosophical too but if I met such a man I know my animal instinct would take over 😂 I never cared that much about having kids though.

My older sister was more like into marrying someone and having a kid because it's how you fit in with society. She doesn't like sex or animalistic sides of things that much. A very responsible, fun and hardworking person though. Her husband is similar.

Another girl I know had 3 babies and she was also a great mom but she is head over heels in love with her husband and the sex is phenomenal. Which is what I would need 😛 An orgasmic high that would last for some decades that I forget what life or death is lol

A billionaire?
My ex and I aren’t particularly wealthy and our son is having a great life ….. having bucket loads of money doesn’t guarantee happiness, love and emotional support are more important and which can’t be bought.
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You sound like you have a very healthy natural positive outlook on life so your son is lucky to carry your genes 😀


But scientists say stuff like half of the world's young population is on antidepressants and that by 2050 there will be world wars due to overpopulation of the world so not enough food or water to go around for everyone and that's worrying you know 😂

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Thank you Poly, there’s no love like it ❤️

Do you want your family blood line from your anchestor to your grand father grand mother then your mother and father, end in you ? do you want your family blood line to become extinc ?

Im a man though, but i guess its also work on woman.

Though i try to have one so bad, i still cant, and im sad.

Posted by ein_da_piscas
Do you want your family blood line from your anchestor to your grand father grand mother then your mother and father, end in you ? do you want your family blood line to become extinc ?


Im a man though, but i guess its also work on woman.


Though i try to have one so bad, i still cant, and im sad.

I’m so sorry ~ that’s so sad to read 🥹😔and so bloody unfair when people who don’t deserve the privilege go on to be parents and the ones who’d be good parents don’t.

💙

I see we woke up unhinged today 🤣

Posted by Overthinker
You know what? I'm probably not going to have children, given my age and lack fo desire for it, BUT I simply can't understand why people who don't want children have something against those who do? Now, if the case is people are gypsies, they ARE that poor that even they can't afford to eat but keep birthing children - now that's something I'm against. But for the sake of children, because no child deserves to live in misery and an extreme poverty. But for regular people, with normal mindset, regular jobs and financial stability who want to have an offspring - I see absolutely no reason why shouldn't they do it. Just because I personally have no patience or strenght for that, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. People actually love children. They love being mothers, fathers - it makes them happy and they absolutely should do it. My friend is one of those people, she adores her children, they are the meaning of her life. I'm childless and I still perfectly understand her. Screw the world and the fake news! Who is putting the ideas in your head about the over population, corrupt world etc?! People had much harder lives before yet here we stand today - why? Because they wanted to have children, they wanted to continue their genes etc. We are being way too picky and self centered today. And I know my own statement here might sound contradicting with the part about extreme poverty, but that is my take on the current world situation and still just my personal opinion, that I don't expect others to accept or follow either. I'm very much for people having functional families even if I don't want one of my own

Well said Sag 👏👏👏

You’ve a very healthy balanced attitude,

There was never a right or wrong time to have children. Despite what a lot of people think, they bring a hell of a lot of joy ❤️

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Posted by MyStarsShine

Posted by Overthinker
You know what? I'm probably not going to have children, given my age and lack fo desire for it, BUT I simply can't understand why people who don't want children have something against those who do? Now, if the case is people are gypsies, they ARE that poor that even they can't afford to eat but keep birthing children - now that's something I'm against. But for the sake of children, because no child deserves to live in misery and an extreme poverty. But for regular people, with normal mindset, regular jobs and financial stability who want to have an offspring - I see absolutely no reason why shouldn't they do it. Just because I personally have no patience or strenght for that, doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. People actually love children. They love being mothers, fathers - it makes them happy and they absolutely should do it. My friend is one of those people, she adores her children, they are the meaning of her life. I'm childless and I still perfectly understand her. Screw the world and the fake news! Who is putting the ideas in your head about the over population, corrupt world etc?! People had much harder lives before yet here we stand today - why? Because they wanted to have children, they wanted to continue their genes etc. We are being way too picky and self centered today. And I know my own statement here might sound contradicting with the part about extreme poverty, but that is my take on the current world situation and still just my personal opinion, that I don't expect others to accept or follow either. I'm very much for people having functional families even if I don't want one of my own

Well said Sag 👏👏👏
You’ve a very healthy balanced attitude,
There was never a right or wrong time to have children. Despite what a lot of people think, they bring a hell of a lot of joy ❤️
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I agree ❤️ people really should have that experience in life, especially those who really love and enjoy children. I was never absolutely against but never felt like the right moment for that has come either. So regardless of my own choice, I think people absolutely should have children because I see how much they love them and how much they mean to them. I look around at people in my circle and I know children make their lives better and that they are so happy to have them and this goes for both men and women.

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They can make you a better person for sure ❤️

Posted by Walk_on_by
I see we woke up unhinged today 🤣

Dory called me chunky and it triggered me lol

I actually feel the same way tbh.

I'll be honest, I feel 60% of people only procreate simply because it feels natural. Its not even that they really want the responsibility, they just feel its necessary. The other 40% simply made a mistake, and just went with it. I don't believe anyone truly wants a child to deal with in 2025.

I don't see the point, especially now. You don't need children to help around the house or tend land, because technology pretty much has that covered. You don't even need kids to take care of your ass when you get old and decrepit anymore. By time I'm 80 I'll get all excited when the hot robotic nurse walks into the room with my daily meds. I'll then sit in my chair and tell her to play my classic dank dupstep mix from the 2010s, and frantically rock back and forth in my chair as I'm catapulted into oblivion.

Posted by Soul
I actually feel the same way tbh.


I'll be honest, I feel 60% of people only procreate simply because it feels natural. Its not even that they really want the responsibility, they just feel its necessary. The other 40% simply made a mistake, and just went with it. I don't believe anyone truly wants a child to deal with in 2025.


I don't see the point, especially now. You don't need children to help around the house or tend land, because technology pretty much has that covered. You don't even need kids to take care of your ass when you get old and decrepit anymore. By time I'm 80 I'll get all excited when the hot robotic nurse walks into the room with my daily meds. I'll then sit in my chair and tell her to play my classic dank dupstep mix from the 2010s, and frantically rock back and forth in my chair as I'm catapulted into oblivion.

It's unfortunate that DXP has the right idea that therapy is overrated but they differ with the current mainstream antinatal ideology going on

And "my child gives me a lot of joy and I love him/her" doesn't protect that child from debilitating emotional anguish. But that was probably my mom's fault for choosing to have kids as a very mentally ill person and I'm projecting

Posted by 220v
U guys are afraid of failing like your parents did to yall or jusr dont want te work? Common dont need to say u are trying to save the planet n the whales or something

Nothing wrong with just want to be left alone

It's not about saving the planet, it's about when lack of fossil fuels and AI lead to breakdown of society in a few generations

Posted by Shamalamadingdongmcshlong
This is the ramblings on someone who resents being born and thrusted into this world.

But I don't have the free right to take myself out

Posted by MidAtBest

Posted by Soul
I actually feel the same way tbh.

I'll be honest, I feel 60% of people only procreate simply because it feels natural. Its not even that they really want the responsibility, they just feel its necessary. The other 40% simply made a mistake, and just went with it. I don't believe anyone truly wants a child to deal with in 2025.

I don't see the point, especially now. You don't need children to help around the house or tend land, because technology pretty much has that covered. You don't even need kids to take care of your ass when you get old and decrepit anymore. By time I'm 80 I'll get all excited when the hot robotic nurse walks into the room with my daily meds. I'll then sit in my chair and tell her to play my classic dank dupstep mix from the 2010s, and frantically rock back and forth in my chair as I'm catapulted into oblivion.

It's unfortunate that DXP has the right idea that therapy is overrated but they differ with the current mainstream antinatal ideology going on


And "my child gives me a lot of joy and I love him/her" doesn't protect that child from debilitating emotional anguish. But that was probably my mom's fault for choosing to have kids as a very mentally ill person and I'm projecting

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I have a ton of past turmoil myself, and often felt like I was more burden to my parents then something positive. I was often left alone at an extremely young age so my divorced parents could go out and party/ find dates. It didnt matter which one I was with. I was either left completely alone, or pawned off on another family member. Who knows, maybe we would make great parents and don't even realize it. Or maybe we reject the idea from past betrayal or the moments when we needed someone deeply, but no one was there. So we learned to be loners, and rather die alone then place our own baggage on a life we don't even truly want.

truly i respect either paths coz some people really cannot parent

tho i feel like some people had a full decade to hamlet about this

but they gotta hamlet when all the other women around them are having kids

is really my only gripe

Posted by virgoOPPP
truly i respect either paths coz some people really cannot parent


tho i feel like some people had a full decade to hamlet about this


but they gotta hamlet when all the other women around them are having kids


is really my only gripe

Facts

also i've wanted to have kids ever since i was having tea parties with all my stuffed toys as a child.

and that's never changed even throughout my 20s. in fact, i've shared how much i wanted to have kids on here constantly.

we intentionally didn't use protection because we've decided we wanted kids even on the first date. we exchanged baby pics of each other even before meeting.

i was busy+ going through saturn return+ thought i was just getting fat

BUT that doesn't mean it was not INTENTIONAL

as for my husband and i wanting kids, i'm sure simple science can explain

Posted by virgoOPPP
also i've wanted to have kids ever since i was having tea parties with all my stuffed toys as a child.


and that's never changed even throughout my 20s. in fact, i've shared how much i wanted to have kids on here constantly.


we intentionally didn't use protection because we've decided we wanted kids even on the first date.


i was busy+ going through saturn return+ thought i was just getting fat


BUT that doesn't mean it was not INTENTIONAL


as for my husband and i wanting kids, i'm sure simple science can explain

Forgive OP, she’s parasocial and envious of your intact fallopian tubes

Posted by KimboSlice

Posted by virgoOPPP
also i've wanted to have kids ever since i was having tea parties with all my stuffed toys as a child.

and that's never changed even throughout my 20s. in fact, i've shared how much i wanted to have kids on here constantly.

we intentionally didn't use protection because we've decided we wanted kids even on the first date.

i was busy+ going through saturn return+ thought i was just getting fat

BUT that doesn't mean it was not INTENTIONAL

as for my husband and i wanting kids, i'm sure simple science can explain

Forgive OP, she’s parasocial and envious of your intact fallopian tubes

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That could very well be

If I still had them I might not be this way

Posted by KimboSlice

Posted by virgoOPPP
also i've wanted to have kids ever since i was having tea parties with all my stuffed toys as a child.

and that's never changed even throughout my 20s. in fact, i've shared how much i wanted to have kids on here constantly.

we intentionally didn't use protection because we've decided we wanted kids even on the first date.

i was busy+ going through saturn return+ thought i was just getting fat

BUT that doesn't mean it was not INTENTIONAL

as for my husband and i wanting kids, i'm sure simple science can explain

Forgive OP, she’s parasocial and envious of your intact fallopian tubes

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just wanted to be clear that i INTENTIONALLY engaged in reproductive activities to conceive an offspring and that it wasn't accidental or a product of coercion.

plus i'm not white so i don't have hangups about populating the world.

Blah blah if you really think humans are run by critical thinking then you are very much mistaken imo

People have biological programming to procreate, same as all species. If you think you should switch that off because you are an oh so clever human then good luck

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Posted by KimboSlice

Posted by virgoOPPP
also i've wanted to have kids ever since i was having tea parties with all my stuffed toys as a child.

and that's never changed even throughout my 20s. in fact, i've shared how much i wanted to have kids on here constantly.

we intentionally didn't use protection because we've decided we wanted kids even on the first date.

i was busy+ going through saturn return+ thought i was just getting fat

BUT that doesn't mean it was not INTENTIONAL

as for my husband and i wanting kids, i'm sure simple science can explain

Forgive OP, she’s parasocial and envious of your intact fallopian tubes
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just wanted to be clear that i INTENTIONALLY engaged in reproductive activities to conceive an offspring and that it wasn't accidental or a product of coercion.


plus i'm not white so i don't have hangups about populating the world.

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How irresponsible of you 🤣

Posted by Wizardzzz
Blah blah if you really think humans are run by critical thinking then you are very much mistaken imo

People have biological programming to procreate, same as all species. If you think you should switch that off because you are an oh so clever human then good luck

Is it my face that makes you so mean to me, and what should I do about it?

I probably need a break from sm

I stand by it that there are few sins I acknowledge or judge other than gestating a child, it's the root of all evil, especially if you're mentally ill and/or can't afford a child

And for the most part it's the woman's choice

I've been explaining the situation with my mom for the last decade, my whole life really. People say "she was a bad mom, they aren't all" but I stubbornly can't change my stance.

But yeah single moms move in on my bfs often (they aren't claimed for long) and try to control me bc they're used to having power over someone, I guess I need stronger boundaries

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Posted by MidAtBest
Sorry to be so confrontational as an out- antinatalist. I keep trying to dump my therapists, my sister (who is an aspiring mom) pretty much threatened me out of it, so I'm asking my therapists why creating more life was the sane and smart thing for each of them to do. It is exceedingly difficult for me to respect someone who clutters the world with more human litter and perpetuates the cycle of suffering and anguish.

If you all have good reasons, I'd love to know them. If gestating the pregnancy was essentially the only viable option (like in virgooppps case where she wasn't aware till she was like third trimester), I respect that.

I don't see how I'm the crazy one if the justification I can perceive is:
1. to keep a man. unless you really are that incompetent that you need one.
2. "I want little clones" and "muh primal maternal instinct"
3. to carry on the family name
4. slave labor
5. gibs
6. "I want to fit in and not raise questions"
7. "God said to"

thats fair if your BC failed and you noticed too late and you're anti-abortion for spiritual reasons (and for your own health). if you had an idea that you might get pregnant 24-72 hrs after sex, plan b is affordable for anyone.

it upsets me that I'll be locked up for not wanting to carry on in a world full of people who think that birth is fair and even that children should be grateful to their parents for conceiving them

Well..


The justification that applies to me is no.1 To keep a man, but to an extent. So it was toxic really and I still cannot forget that! So basically when we were just dating, I was full on exclusive FWB. I told him though, hey look I don't want marriage , I don't want kids, just flow okay.. next thing you know he impregnated me.. I wanted to abort but my sister objected and also my doctor refused. Well then okay whatever... it turned out that pregnancy was jacked, it was blighted ovum.. a year past, we were still flowing and I was perfectly fine and content, he came again with this hey look let's have a child, back then I was still debating him, saying our finance was not right, how children shouldn't be brought up for the sake of taking care of their parents, we basically disagreed on that. Until he started manipulated me by saying, okay in that case if you don't want to have it, I can get some woman outside and have baby with her. I was like WTF!

So I thought, goddamn it this guy "my way or the highway" so I begrudging that.


That's how the story went


But you know what, NOW... what I know for sure is: Having children is such BLESSING! *tears*

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Don't mind me aneema. I'm crashing out bc of reacting to things mean Pisces people say to me. I'll shut up and lose 35 lbs and come back poplerler maybe

I'll reactivate my TikTok to and send it to ya 😘

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Posted by Wizardzzz
Blah blah if you really think humans are run by critical thinking then you are very much mistaken imo
People have biological programming to procreate, same as all species. If you think you should switch that off because you are an oh so clever human then good luck

Having the imprint of procreating should also be teamed with being able to handle the responsibility.

Carrying out children into the the world is no easy task, you know. Heck I am still struggling because there are so many aspects in life to tackle in order to be fully successful in bringing up children for the sake of the future.

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There's a lot of "should's" and they're all worthless

In some countries they have 8 children and half of them die

It's just such a dumb thing to suggest that humans shouldn't reproduce. It's nature.

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I see we woke up unhinged today 🤣

Dory called me chunky and it triggered me lol
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@hydorah you dick

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Bro ignore me fr, this new gun has me spazzing, I need to diet and lose weight before I get 5150'ed

I have a few kids that I’ve unofficially adopted. In a world filled full of kids who have been failed by the adults in their lives, anyone willing to show up with love and stability is doing more than most.

I hope I’m doing my part in preventing future generations from showing up on random astrology message boards and complaining about the signs of their parents once a week

I may have considered having children if I could be a dad. Unfortunately my genitalia designated me as the one to sacrifice my time, sanity, health, career, and personhood to be the primary parent. So instead I bought a vacation home.

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I may have considered having children if I could be a dad. Unfortunately my genitalia designated me as the one to sacrifice my time, sanity, health, career, and personhood to be the primary parent. So instead I bought a vacation home.

Forgive me for being openly a hot mess as a brand now, I really hope you stick around.

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People actually love children. They love being mothers, fathers - it makes them happy and they absolutely should do it. My friend is one of those people, she adores her children, they are the meaning of her life.

I think much of this is a socioeconomic disparity. My mom who I wish would disappear moved up and throws those resources into my sister who is there for her (and has always been gifted), my dad who I love became working class after the divorce, living in shit apts till he got my grandparents inheritance. I haven't seen love for children except in the sense "I'm a woman so it's proper that I teach at a preschool" and as something to proclaim on Facebook when they get dumped. Maybe it's low level perceiving low level. 😔 Sorry I make so many assumptions with a limited world view.

That said, and this is unrelated, sometimes I think you may wear rose-colored glasses in regards to relationships and love between others. But maybe you literally see marriages that are equal and will last. I don't. Maybe it's bc I'm American, and I apologize for that. It is kind of confusing that you get involved with Virgo men yet you believe that they honor and love the one who puts them on a pedestal and cherishes them. Maybe Scorpio men can be like that. Other than that, people chase who they can't have and Virgos are the worst with the madonna-whore complex.

Strangest of all is your relationship optimism (about others) in the face of your well-documented relationship frustration. I'm glad you still believe it's there for you and that you'll find such loyalty and respect. It's hard not to chalk the frustration up to general society and become misandrist.

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People actually love children. They love being mothers, fathers - it makes them happy and they absolutely should do it. My friend is one of those people, she adores her children, they are the meaning of her life.

I think much of this is a socioeconomic disparity. My mom who I wish would disappear moved up and throws those resources into my sister who is there for her (and has always been gifted), my dad who I love became working class after the divorce, living in shit apts till he got my grandparents inheritance. I haven't seen love for children except in the sense "I'm a woman so it's proper that I teach at a preschool" and as something to proclaim on Facebook when they get dumped. Maybe it's low level perceiving low level. 😔 Sorry I make so many assumptions with a limited world view.

That said, and this is unrelated, sometimes I think you may wear rose-colored glasses in regards to relationships and love between others. But maybe you literally see marriages that are equal and will last. I don't. Maybe it's bc I'm American, and I apologize for that. It is kind of confusing that you get involved with Virgo men yet you believe that they honor and love the one who puts them on a pedestal and cherishes them. Maybe Scorpio men can be like that. Other than that, people chase who they can't have and Virgos are the worst with the madonna-whore complex.

Strangest of all is your relationship optimism (about others) in the face of your well-documented relationship frustration. I'm glad you still believe it's there for you and that you'll find such loyalty and respect. It's hard not to chalk the frustration up to general society and become misandrist.

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I think reason for your view is because you haven't seen the other side. You haven't seen people who adore children, who would give their life for them. I too come from a dysfunctional family but I refuse to let that skewed vision on life distort my own view - instead I look, hear and feel what is around me. My Gemini friend is an incredible mother - a fighter, a believer and independent woman who adores her children and they are her entire world. You can feel her love by simply observing her - and she has a dysfunctional marriage too. My Sag friend loves children so much that she even studied to be a pre-school teacher. Her boys are center of her world too. My Cancer colleague said he couldn't imagine going through life without a family and children. A Gemini man I was in love before is such a gentle person with children, I actually realized I liked him when I saw how tender snd caring he is with a child that was his patient then...and I can go on and on with this.

All the Virgos that I know are exceptionally great people, both men and women. They can be handful at times and they are certainly not everyone's piece of cake. I have seen in my own experience how they are to those who treat them nicely, they return 10 times more because they value that. Again, I don't know what kind of people you might encounter so your experience defines your views too. The best dates I ever was at was with 2 Virgo men and both very different yet both wonderful in their own way. I don't give up because I have no reason to. The way people treat me gives me wings to fly, reasons to believe in good and kindness, but the way they treat me is also a result of how I treat them

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I ain't gon lie to u, before we start worryin about children and shit like u can give children love all day but sis u know how u is as a person. I don't knock her for not bringing a baby in this world where they gon violate it, u can't even really protect the shit. If u not a catfish u make it sound like shit sweet but it's not especially u being a female, u just superficial as fuck and u makin it look like shit all flowers and daisies and shit, u on some other shit

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Sorry to be so confrontational as an out- antinatalist. I keep trying to dump my therapists, my sister (who is an aspiring mom) pretty much threatened me out of it, so I'm asking my therapists why creating more life was the sane and smart thing for each of them to do. It is exceedingly difficult for me to respect someone who clutters the world with more human litter and perpetuates the cycle of suffering and anguish.


If you all have good reasons, I'd love to know them. If gestating the pregnancy was essentially the only viable option (like in virgooppps case where she wasn't aware till she was like third trimester), I respect that.


I don't see how I'm the crazy one if the justification I can perceive is:

1. to keep a man. unless you really are that incompetent that you need one.

2. "I want little clones" and "muh primal maternal instinct"

3. to carry on the family name

4. slave labor

5. gibs

6. "I want to fit in and not raise questions"

7. "God said to"


thats fair if your BC failed and you noticed too late and you're anti-abortion for spiritual reasons (and for your own health). if you had an idea that you might get pregnant 24-72 hrs after sex, plan b is affordable for anyone.


it upsets me that I'll be locked up for not wanting to carry on in a world full of people who think that birth is fair and even that children should be grateful to their parents for conceiving them

Birth is often fair but not always

Children should never be grateful to their parents for conceiving them

The problem is when people have babies and are ill equipped to look after them, there is no vetting or enforced preparation which means any one can choose to bring a life into the worldly, which is bloody tragic.

I also wanted to clarify that I'm from small town Midwest, my peers/HS friends had their kids in their early 20s xD

So that was one assumption about me that was wrong along with people thinking I'm possessive over hatter of all people 8|

Nowadays I gravitate more toward the bi/trans crowd who opt out of parenthood and marriage, easier than being around rowdy kids. I can't even cope w being around high energy dogs. I work too much and am always tired

I guess that makes me an outlier on dxp since the women are more trad but at least almost everyone is older (hence a lower-risk environment)