I'm going in....

Hey Guys,

Now that some of the dust has settled I am headed back to the bar to visit VirGuy. If you recall, someone claims I said we slept together and I called his friend/boss/landlord a lesbian. Husband intervened and questioned me on this shit. Denial, denial, denial. I would never disrespect the lady or VirGuy by making derogatory and unfounded remarks about their sex lives. If it's not my sex life I could give a kitty about anyone else's. Yesterday, the woman who I "supposedly" called a lesbo waited on me last night. She seemed pretty cool about things. She offered to by me a beer but by then I had my fill and respectfully declined. She such a talented performer/musician/songwriter and has brought VirGuy a long way with regards to his performing.

Upon entering the bar a few things can happen, 1) He'll totally ignore me, 2) He'll take care of someone around me, talk to them while making it obvious he's ignoring me just to get my attention to see if I am looking at him.
3) Act like nothing happened.

Any and all advice is welcome. CF36

Dyr,

I've been meaning to. Been thinking about it a lot lately. The problem is both of us needs a few good belts to work up some nerve. My drinking has been a problem 'cause I can get a bit argumentative, but it's only if I am feeling put upon or someone behaves inappropriately. It makes VG very uncomfortable so he withdraws. So, when he withdraws I feel defeated and withdraw too. It's great for Pisces and Virgo when we're on the same page, but now we're not even in the same book.

CF36

Dyr,

Truth, I am not sure what I am ready to do. There is an attraction and I want to act on it, then again I don't. Things will only get complicated and even more difficult considering his reticience and my need for understanding and communication. HE DOESN'T COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY. There is a lot of unspoken understanding but mind reading is not a strong basis for any relationship. No matter how intense the feelings are.

CF36

Good luck getting him to communicate at all. Whether it's at the bar or in private, he will NOT offer up any information...you will be the one asking the questions and offering the information...of course that leaves you guarded as to what you can/will/cannot/will not tell him because you don't know what to talk about.

Good luck CF.

Hey CF36, it's nice to meet you !!!!!

Just keep in mind that Pisces are pretty good at assessing a situation pretty rapidly, so I'm sure that when you go back, you will find the right thing to do. The antipication is the hard and scarry part. V/P match is incredible, I hope everything works out for you.

so anytime she wants him to open up, she should whip out liquor? Come on...I thought she wanted to build a relationship with this guy...

It shouldn't be that hard to get him to communicate and if you're saying that the only way his tongue will loosen is with alcohol, that seems like too much work.

Plus, didn't you tell her that she's not seeing the real guy at the bar? Wouldn't the biggest reason why she's not seeing the real guy at the bar is because of the alcohol?

Just my opinion....I'm a Taurus...I'm opinionated...but hey, that's pbly why I screwed up with my VirGuy, right? 😢

HP74,

Yes, I know. His intensity is a thing that captivates and frightens me as well. Sex would probably be quite explosive.

are you in it for the sex or the friendship/relationship?

yes, he was a jerk...but being a Taurus, I tend to get worked up very easily and then regret the actions later...that's the phase I'm going through right now.

I am still contemplating just making it right with him so he doesn't hate me...LOL...funny huh? I should not even care, but I do.

Well, darn...I've already emailed him 5 paragraphs....

Even if he doesn't respond or call, at least I told him how I felt and at least own up to what I did was wrong...

The ball is now in his court, a ball which he may throw at full force back at me, who knows.

Dodgeball anyone?

LOL...hmmm

At this point, maybe so.

😉

huh?

Will send update once Wednesday comes, unless I see him tonight. Sex is not all I want. Once you establish a connection with someone you have a lot in common then it's normal to what to take it to another level.

CD36

So VirGuys are premiscuous (sp)?

Yeah, so I've heard. VirGuy has his ladies, this I know. I don't want to be one of a brood of women.

It's hard for guys to have "just friends" females...you've got to know they're FWB's...

Dyr,

Don't know the details - not sure I want or need that much information.

FWB? Nah...but like I said, my Taurus nature takes over and I just want to smooth things over....Isn't that how your Taurus gal was in college?

DYR,
The only nugget of information I can offer is this - he's friends always say he's not ready for a relationship. But those are the ones who seem to fall into one when everyone else is stating the oppositie. Secondly, he admitted once that he broke up with another women to be with someone else since he's monogomous. He didn't want to cheat.

I know from Married Guy that he really got burned in his last serious relationship. I don't know if it's the same one but one female through a fit outside the bar and tossed a trash can at the door. Another young woman showed up at his place unannounced.

Sorry about the obvious spelling errors. Yeah, slow and steady. I'll just have to wait it out see. Unless, I find i just can't help myself and end up pulling him into the back alley behind the bar and kiss him.

Yes, it's proven effective in the past for me as well. Yet, I can't seem to make the relattionship work or last. I keep telling myself I don't want anything but on the other side of the coin I want too much. H

Dyr,

We've been at this little dance for over a year and 1/2 now. The latter half we've spent either mad at each other or not speaking. CF36

No.

I did try to feel him out once. I invited him over with some mutual other friends. I didn't want to appear too forward. He said " I don't fraternize with the customers." When I asked him about this later he just said "I was kidding." Not sure what that's about.

I was bit stunned by his abruptness, quite honestly, I was hurt. I don't always recover right away from those types of comments.

I understand completely but it cna still sting. VirGuy has said other hurtful things although I know it wasn't intentional.

Scorpios are also sensitive, so be forwarned. One wrong word or look can land you in the dog house.

It's strange, so many Virgoens I know claim they hate "drama", yet are drawn to people with passtionate natures. I guess it's true what they say about opposites eh?