IT IS OVER...

Yesterday morning I got a txt mssg from my Virgo man just saying "happy valentines day" Very lame in my eyes and lack of interest... I replied "Happy Valentine's Day 2 u 2"

Anyway, last nite I delivered the (European ordered) chocolates, he was surprised to see me. He said the last person he expected to see at his house last nite, was me. Gosh wasn't it Valentine's, and weren't we in an exclusive relationship as to b/f-g/f? Oh well! We had had no contact since Monday afternoon, and our conversation was not the greatest. I wanted to know more about his sexual necessities since we had not been very sexually active with each other and I wanted more.

So After he thanked me for the chocolates (he was very impressed for all the trouble I had gone through to get them for him) we talked for 1.5 hrs and we decided "we are not on the same page", as he so stated. I told him I wanted more out of the relationship, more sharing, more times together, more sex. Told him I wanted to be part of his life and not his schedule. But he is "just fine" (his words) going with the flow and seeing me once a week and having sex once every 2 weeks. He is fine with our contact once every few days. I am not...

So this time I told him he can do whatever he wants. He said he is not interested in dating other. I told him that before he asked me for exclusivity (twice now) he was more attentive, more caring, more giving, blah, blah, blah and we had a lot more communication. I told him that I thought that once a couple is in an exclusive b/f-g/f relationship, I figure they should share even more. After I explained to him what had been happening and the events that had taken place, he said I was right... He said for me to date others but he wanted to continue dating me! Told him I could not, that is, continue to see him, and be there just for when he is in the mood of getting together. By now, 10:20 p.m., he had to go to bed, was working early today and he asked what next then? I said well, time for me to say good nite and go home. We hugged, I left.

This morning I got a text from him wishing me a wonderful day after the valentine's sweets... Whatever that means I do not intent to reply. Finally it is clear to me that he is not into me to value me as a girlfriend, but just a date...

So I guess I won't be posting about my Virgo man anymore. Now it is to NEXXXT and who knows what sign he will be?

Thank you all for putting up with all my posts while I was agonizing in t

Thank you all for putting up with all my posts while I was agonizing in trying to figure out this particular Virgo man.

I say .... ESCORPIONA, you done good girl. You know what you want, never settle. Go out now and PLAY with life - get a piece of paper (large one) number 1-100. Write each man's name you DATE next to the number and make notes if you so desire as to what you enjoyed and what you didn't.

*Freebird flaps her fluffy feathery wings and dances in circles in joy for ESCORPIONA✨

Gosh with so much that is going on this board, every body is so busy into the melodrama that I get no consolation words! 😛

Thank you to those that have replied...

PS And oui, c'est la vie, ne c'est pas? 😉

Actually I do not see a reason to give you a heart felt consolation...Because,
as you see on this board, that's how real virgos are..

When they are not pissed off, they are better than any body on the earth, but once angry they can be a disater..One needs to think, if they can live with virgos for I know that's not that easy of a job.

I also believe in what ever happens , happens for the best, so no need to worry as this too shall pass.

Should you still need consolation- please accept my deep consolations...

Ok branh0913,

At this time, u do not need to be harsh with her..
I know what she might be going thru..

It does happen sometimes, feeling could be one way too..

why am I not surprised o_O

virgos will be virgos.

It's a good thing you were in control and not him. Job well done, Escorpiona 🙂

Yup- well done..

And who knows the NEXXXXXXT might be far better than this one?

I don't understand how this is his fault, when she clearly brought it on herself.

Like I said, That does happen sometimes, you just like some one, that might be one way and that's when it happens.

and he ignored her as well. he doesn't want to give her what she asks. she doesn't want to give him what he asks...make sense, brahn?

Ok folks easy...

I did not know the details.

May be what ever has happened , has happened for the best of both as one can't be happy in any kind of one way relation ships.. It needs to let go..

branh he did asked me for exclusivity a second time around (02-05-07) and I posted about it. This time he was sure and this time he even wanted to use the terms g/f-b/f. I even gave him a 24 hrs w/draw clause to change his mind, but he said he was on. He knew what he wanted!

I am handling it well I was the one that yesterday said it was tutto finito.

I would believe brahn for I know some one , a virgo guy, he played ALL The tircks so that he does not have to deal with the girl he did not want. He gave her hints.. She kept on marching on, virgo created one after other all types of situations so that she says NO.

Finally one day he got very angry on her and blaimed her for every thing and needless to say he broke off with her... Along the line though, he gave mixed hints but more -ve than +ve.

There fore I always say, if it does not look equal at both ends, none should WORK on making it work, instead let go..

branh analyze it whichever way you want, I know the facts and that is sufficient for me. I know I did not push him, I know I learned how to be patient with him but at the end he was not into me like he claimed...

He is just fine with everything as long as it doesn't rock his schedule/world/plans/life.

He talks the talk but does not walk the walk, that simple!

PS Both time he asked for exclusivity I had nothing to do with it. It was all his doing. This last time he asked me, I made sure I understood what he was saying and he insisted this time it was for sure and he thanked me for my patience with him.

branh he wanted to still date me but I said no! Besides if he wanted to dump me like you said, why would he txt mssg me this morning?

He wants the cake and eat it too, again at his convenience, and I am not waiting/falling for it...

VGM I am not looking for a man to be with me 24/7... I have been divorced 10 years and I know how to be alone. I like my independence, I like my freedom, I like my space and I am not a lonely, desperate woman.

My Virgo man knew all of that, we talked about it, but he (not me) also talked about spending more time together and was all for it, but when it came time to execute it, well it did not happen...

BTW I am not the type to snap my fingers and command, I believe in talking out the situation and come to a compromise for the benefit of the relationship. He was not ready to do that, I guess. It was just about him!

Too many mixed messages he gave me from the very beginning until the end.

PS Branh's comments don't bother me, I know better!

branh0913 said
"But Escorpiona is completely obnoxious, that much is true."

Really branh, and how is that? Just wondering...

VGM I still don't get it, he asked for exclusivity twice... I never put words in his mouth! The man is 46 yrs old, he should not be asking for it if he did not mean it and not only once but two times.

Isn't that what mature Virgo man are all about? Not into games!

I know I am not. With me, what you see it is what you get.

Not doing Latin dances without him... In fact, I have stayed home those days (weekends) that he did not asked me out.

And yes we communicated over and over again. He would talk about that we needed to do more things together, but he always planned his schedule and then tried to fit me in at his convenience without even asking me if I had any other plans/obligations. I always said yes to all his offers to get together whatever activity it was and I reorganized whatever I had to do...

Communication is a top priority to me in a relationship and I thought we had a real good one.

VGM When I originally started posting here I was told to have patience, I was told not to push it, and I sure followed the advice!

Bottom line here, whether he was a Virgo or not, he was just not into me.

PS He kept saying he was going to take Latin dance classes...

Oh yes, I felt like I was doing all the compromising... So I guess it was doomed, no matter how hard I tried.

You know something, I keep getting flash backs to the txt mssg he sent me today. If I told him last nite it was over, why would he texted me wishing me a wonderful day?

No comprendo...

VGM I believe relationships are about both parties compromising some how for the better of the relationship...

I did what I did (being there for all the invitations) to show him I cared for him. He knew I liked him a lot too... We never talked about being in love, but we talked about wanting to fall madly in love with each other. He did not open up about love, so I remained guarded.

Do I love him? I do not know! Does he love me? I do not think so...

Like he said, we are not in the same page and I have come to the page that says "THE END" He is not capable or does not want to give me what I want, what I desire. So since there is not a meeting of the minds nor the hearts, it is best to go on with our lives on separate paths.

escorpiona, best wishes for you my lady. I know how you feel.

i can also see a part of branh's view too.

things happen for a reason so i wish you the best again. knowing the virgs i know, virgs don't grant wishes to make you happy b/c they're not genies. (but you will grant them their wishes and they are happy-isn't that ironic?) so make your wishes and make them happen for you woman. just keep in mind that anything you don't have control over, let it be.. let it go.. which you did so i am proud of you.

Gem dear, I know better and at my age I am not into playing games. I know what I want, what I seek, and I am not going to settle for crumbs to just be in a relationship!

I am not saying my Virgo man was playing games, I just think he does not want, maybe he is not ready, for a committed relationship.

Hey, thank you for the good wishes. I am strong I can go on...

Life is live and learn!

Well what I said that he is not into me was just confirmed as follows:

My Virgo man had told me, last week, that he had an ad on a religious dating site, but he did not say which one. So yesterday I did a search on line and I was lucky enough to locate which site it was and I found his profile. It said he had not been on his page since 1/24/07. Well, I just checked now (I entered it as a visitor, I am not registered there) and now it says he last visited his page 2/15/07 which it is tonite, so he is already looking for greener pastures.

Yes, I am hurt by it, and just sharing it with you all, but I can not complain since as of last nite it was over whatever we had...

Well, it is time for me to go to bed now. Thank you for allowing me to bent!

Until next time, good nite! 🙂

His Actions/words don't match up. But he's upfront and honest..which is a nice quality really..Only you know the feelings/emotions attached to this situation we can only go by words alone. If you have made up your mind, then I suggest you stick to your decision and carry on with your life. You want more from this than he can offer right now. Didn't you say he had come out of a divorce? If so, then the man probably just wants to lay low for a while and have some fun without rushing into another full-blown relationship..which is also understandable..They can go weeks on end without making any contact..which is quite weird if your seeing someone..Exclusive or not..there has to be a yearning to see the other person from both parties for it to go anywhere..

MissM I agree with you, and I do not think he has the yearning I have for him and our relationship, so I cannot keep going forward...

But I must be truthful to myself, if he were to call me and ask me out, right this second, I do not know what I would say. Logically I know the best answer would be NO but my heart is not ready to say NO, but I have to, otherwise if I continue to see him, I know my heart will suffer...

He has been separated/divorce almost 2 years, and even though he says he is over his marriage I am not so sure, specially since Virgo, males more than females, take soooooo long to take a stand/decison...

Anyway, I am craving to send him a sweet txt mssg but instead, I am posting here to stop the urge!

I must contain myself! 😛

virgogotme on 2/16/2007 4:48:00 said:

"If he was into you, HE WOULD NOT BE ON THAT SITE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE ELSE. He is finished with you. Get that mindset, and move on. I'm sorry it didn't work out."

VGM

Finally it has hit me VERY hard! I know it is super over, big times!

Today, we exchanged some txt messages. On one, my Virgo man said he was going to keep in contact with me and ask me out and he hoped I would say yes... And there were some other yada yadas yadasss messages but nothing that I felt he was into me. His messages were more like since there is no one else I will date you! That is the sense I got. I even wrote him some juice stuff but no reply to that...

However, after rereading all the posts on this thread, specially your last one VGM, I decided to write him one final txt mssg where I told him that he would be happy to know that it was my last text to him and there would not be any more contact from me and that I was sorry I had fallen for him but that it wasn't mutual. Then I got sarcastic, sorry, but I had to let him know I knew. So I told him, to go to his religiousdatingsite.com, I used his nick so he could see what I was talking about, and then I told him that I hoped he would find the woman he could fall madly in love with, then I wished him lots of love, happYness, health and $ . Then I said good bye in Spanish, Adios.

I hope he does not reply which most likely he won't,

VGM thank you for finally killing my last breath of hope, I needed that. You are so right, he is not and was never into me. I was just a convenience to him, c'est tout...

Life goes on, and tomorrow night I shall go dancing with my g/fs to do some of those Latin moves I got rusty over my Virgo man! 😛

Well, after all I am Scorpio, and at times I can be a bit vindictive and sarcastic, but not mean! 😛

VGM sorry, but I had to get it out of my system, he was lying to me and I wanted to show it to him without calling him a liar...

I am hurt but I did not tell him that, I just said I was sad. 😢

Hey, the second time around he did not recant the exclusivity, I was the one that withdrew it. I was the one that wanted out and he told me to date others but he would continue to date me exclusively, so I don't get it. He confused the hell out of me through out the whole 3.5 months we were together.

Fine if I never hear from him again. He lost a good thing and he knows it, but it is about the fussy feeling and I guess he did not have it for me, I have accepted that, even if I am here venting so much.

I want a man that if he cares, to show it to me, I am tired of games. He deceived me! Even though supposedly Virgo men are so up front, he was not 100% ...

Gosh my anger is coming out! lol

PS I have also seen his (my Virgo man) sarcasm in the past, so I guess we are even now! 🙂

Well I do not know where I stand...

So I thought my Virgo man was never going to contact me again after the last txt mssg I sent him on Friday afternoon. However, he sent me an email Sunday morning. Even though it was not the sweetest e-mail, but if I read it correctly and between the lines, there may be hope for "us" still. Here is some of the stuff he wrote:

"The thought of never seeing you again never crossed my mind, I enjoy your company very much whenever we're together."

"It seems our little relationship is wonderful when we're together, and turbulent whenever we're not."

"I regrettably accept your retreat from the friendship we developed, it's just a damn shame."

I replied to him that I just got so confused with his mixed signals, that I didn't know where I stood most of the time. I said I just felt he kept leading me on since he had asked for exclusivity twice. I told him that we understood that term very differently, that he saw it as friendship, and I saw it as more. Again I told him that I wanted to be part of his life and not his schedule, and maybe that was hard for him to understand and maybe even accept. I told him that to me exclusivity meant more than just a date of convenience, and at the end that is how I felt. Also I told him that our definition of exclusivity, g/f-b/f and relationship seemed to be different. I added that to this day, I did not know what his perspective on the relationship he was seeking was, since he really never told me or kept giving me so many mixed signals all along.

He also said that he was not actively looking for anyone, that he joined the religious dating web site many months ago, and it was a one yr subscription so whenever he got mail, he just replied and said thank you, and hello. BTW, I did not tell him this, but in my eyes, if you are in an exclusive relationship, he should have put his profile on invisible or take it down, regardless if he paid for a whole year.

I further asked what he meant when he said our "little relationship" since he used those words in his e-mail, and at the end of my email I said to him "well let's make it wonderful again" using his words of having a wonderful relationship.

I have not had any replies yet, but I am hoping he does answer me, and speaks his mind as I asked him to do. I do not know what is going though my Virgo man's mind but I like to think he cares for me, but I just do not know if it is enough to patch things up.

(Continues...)

(Continuation...)

This coming weekend we had plan an out of town trip for the weekend, one overnight, so I am wishing we are still on. I just do not know.

Any feed back as to what may be his (Virgo mind) response?

Don't know about the virgo mind..but I think you should put yours at ease by just sticking to whatever decision you've made originally...Go with your gut...I find it doesn't often fail us Scorps..Whatever his reasons, he's obviously not ready for whatever you want..

MissM you are so right, thank you!

But as Scorpios you know, when we are into something, sometimes it is so hard to let go...

I know at the end this Virgo man is not for me, but for now what can I say, I am infatuated by him, so I just need a bit of time to get him out of my system. On the mean time I just wish he was into me!

Oh my, my dilemmas! 😛

That's just the way Virgos are. Good luck with future guys though. 😉

Oh, and Virgos struggle with abrupt endings. Even if it wasn't so abrupt to you, he'll think it was. They don't understand what went wrong, and are prone to getting back together with those that they care about. And usually, they always care. Especially when you think that they don't, and you're doubting everything they ever said to you - they'll still care. They're sacrificial and devoted beings by nature. Extremely critical, but at the same time, they're sensitive on the inside, and will forgive easily, but have a hard time forgetting.

This is worst-case scenario reactions to a break-up, coming from a Virgo that just got out of a fourteen month relationship with an Aries. For him, things are probably different, but he's probably driving himself crazy in circles with worry.

Good luck!

Escorpiona: "But as Scorpios you know, when we are into something, sometimes it is so hard to let go..."

I find it hard to understand this..If something is causing one so much grief why hold onto it...Thats one part of the Scorpio thing that really doesn't affect me I must say..

I refuse to let anyone/anything take away my happiness..Period

All the best whatever you decide..

Just now out of yahoo chat... All of the sudden I get this, read below, and tell me I am crazy!!!!!

VIRGOMAN: I miss you a lot ESCORPIONA, I just can't believe this is happening...
VIRGOMAN: Come to ______ with me sweetheart, PLEASE..
ESCORPIONA: 😢
ESCORPIONA: I would like that......
VIRGOMAN: It will be a very nice trip for both of us
ESCORPIONA: I was looking forward to it...
VIRGOMAN: Thank you so very much, I look forward to it now....
ESCORPIONA: thank you!
VIRGOMAN: Im off for a hair cut, talk with you later....
ESCORPIONA: bye

My Virgo man had invited me 2 weeks ago to go to______ to a baseball (H.S.) game of his nephew, to go this Fri am and spend the nite and return on Saturday. I am crazy I want to go, oh my god what he wrote I can't believe it! My heart too an extra beat when I saw he wrote me and then stopped beating when he said he had to go to get a hair cut!

No comprendo the man! grrrrrrrrr

I know I am a fool, but maybe I go and hopefully it will be good sex! Dream on, right?

Another chapter of my soap opera! 😛

I should give up too... But maybe there is a bit of hope!



PS I know better though!

Not over yet then, but I am proceeding with precautions.

My Virgo man an hour ago sent me a text message and asked me if I was busy tonite. Even though I was tempted to say I was available, instead I wrote him that I had a case at 9:00 in the morning. He then sent me another txt mssg and said his nephew had a baseball game tonite, was I interested in going? I replied I had a long day and that I was passing on the invitation, then he send me another mssg and said "please rest, sweetheart."

I am having lots of mixed emotions now, but if he changed his mind and he is really interested in me, he is going to have to really show it and I do not think most Virgo males are capable of such!

Now next chapter! lol

PS Gusto saludarte Roxi! 😉

A friend just send me these great thoughts and I will share them here for you all to enjoy...


Life is short. Break the rules. Forgive quickly. Kiss slowly. Love truly. Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile.

archer I will ask him what sign he is! 😛

d'accord ma cherie but I think he is gay! lol

ALV wasn't a porn star. Those pics on her profile weren't her.

Why? Because she started a thread in your tribute?

Good "Research".. What shall I say?

ok- got it.

So is it over for whoever ALV is? 😛

On with my thread... lol

lovin' that quote about life is short Escorp and Archer...have just pasted and printed it out - gonna carry it in my wallet and learn it off by heart.

A x

I guess you're just in "misty-blue" land today Tan:-)

A X

LOL..Bless...

scopiogoat said... "Life is about experiences, not how it ends. You only have your memories with you in your final moments."

As I say when I die I am only going to take that, that I have lived, my experiences, and that is what I am all about, making the best of what life has to offer...

Now tanya changing the subject, if a man asks for exclusivity, (twice, after 1st time he got scared, he asked a 2nd time few weeks later but more serious and with more depth and commitment), not to date others, to be b-f and g-f, to be a couple, is that going with the flow of just dating whenever convenient to him, or does the relationship become a due (2) and you work for the best of the relationship and not just his flow?