Safri
@Safri
21 Years
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Just too impatient?
Understanding Virgo and Taurus Compatibility in Love
Virgo and Taurus share a deep connection rooted in loyalty and practicality. Both signs value genuine relationships and can develop strong bonds over time. Communication is key to navigating feelings and expectations. Recognizing their natural patience and sincerity can help deepen their relationship and resolve uncertainties.
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Excuse my interrupting. What B.S is this? Game Playing? Does this mean that virgos prefer such mind games over having a healthy relationship? The virgo would rather loose the loved one by shutting up than welcoming the love? Can be understood in a very young person. But should this state of self-defense mechanism continue forever at cost of loosing soemone precious..who could have been the best answer to your loving self? No that is not love.
To me if anyone funtions this way .. that is spring into action only when ignored..reeks of lack of confidence. This is not being methodical..no way!
To me if anyone funtions this way .. that is spring into action only when ignored..reeks of lack of confidence. This is not being methodical..no way!
I agree with you looney.. game playing is not the answer. Mind games? I hope not! If you trip over you feet trying get a guys affection- what happens when it doesn't work?
But I don't think this is about game playing. Some people just need a lot of time and space, especially after ending a relationship -and sounds like this guy is no different. If this guy just got out of a painful relationship, maybe he just needs time to get his ex-girlfriend out of his system before starting anything new. Perhaps he wants to be sure that his feelings for you are genuine, and not spawned from the fact that he's on the rebound. Maybe he thinks you only like him because you're on the rebound?
Additionally, Safri, you can't "make" it happen. Love? Are you sure? He might just "likes" you back- and this love you have for him-- he notices it, and it makes him nervous. Maybe he's unsure of how he feels about any of it, and he doesn't want to hurt you while he's figuring it out... WHO KNOWS??!! There's a 1000001 ideas/explanations...but the answer to them all will come in time. So take it- use it to your advantage.
Give each other some space. Enjoy the light flirting. In the end, the I think the important part is that knowing what you wanna get out of it.
But I don't think this is about game playing. Some people just need a lot of time and space, especially after ending a relationship -and sounds like this guy is no different. If this guy just got out of a painful relationship, maybe he just needs time to get his ex-girlfriend out of his system before starting anything new. Perhaps he wants to be sure that his feelings for you are genuine, and not spawned from the fact that he's on the rebound. Maybe he thinks you only like him because you're on the rebound?
Additionally, Safri, you can't "make" it happen. Love? Are you sure? He might just "likes" you back- and this love you have for him-- he notices it, and it makes him nervous. Maybe he's unsure of how he feels about any of it, and he doesn't want to hurt you while he's figuring it out... WHO KNOWS??!! There's a 1000001 ideas/explanations...but the answer to them all will come in time. So take it- use it to your advantage.
Give each other some space. Enjoy the light flirting. In the end, the I think the important part is that knowing what you wanna get out of it.
We all have our imaginations about "what it should be" or "what would it be like"......
The main problem with safri post is "she isn?t sure what love life is, same goes for her partner.. and she blame on star signs"
But lady? the reason of playing the game? is to find the proof for what is going on, you both "txting"? means not talking, communication "in person" is darn important to any serious affair? you both do it with "txting".
"Sweet talks" and "sweet compliments".. are "additions to the romance" not good enough for serious business.
In my Virgo mind..! Something telling me to say you both "cut the crap" and get to the bottom line". Don?t be afraid to be pushy safri? but "don?t go over the limits"?!
All in all, you love the guy don't you..??
PS..!!
"what is txting"..??
The main problem with safri post is "she isn?t sure what love life is, same goes for her partner.. and she blame on star signs"
But lady? the reason of playing the game? is to find the proof for what is going on, you both "txting"? means not talking, communication "in person" is darn important to any serious affair? you both do it with "txting".
"Sweet talks" and "sweet compliments".. are "additions to the romance" not good enough for serious business.
In my Virgo mind..! Something telling me to say you both "cut the crap" and get to the bottom line". Don?t be afraid to be pushy safri? but "don?t go over the limits"?!
All in all, you love the guy don't you..??
PS..!!
"what is txting"..??
Hiya all,
Thanks so much for all your opinions! Just to clear up a few things - I don't love mr virgo just yet. Yes, i love him as a friend, but to LOVE someone is on a completely different level. And txting, Qbone, is just the word i use for using our mobile phones to talk, which, and i absolutely agree with u on this, is just completely stupid and useless, because it's the talking that can make or break a relationship. It's just, it's so hard to talk about the serious stuff and we're both not really good doing it (him more so than i), so the "txting" kind of takes the pressure off - not that that's a good thing really.
I think a lot of what SeizeTheDay has said makes sense. However, I have always been aware about the fact that we both came out of relationships not long ago - we have asked each other about it on occasion - he knows i'm completely over my ex (he knew him) and he's told me quite a few times he's over his ex (but i must admit, i wonder sometimes). The thing is i'm most definately also not into this game playing thing, like looneybird says. To me it's just a waste of time - if two people like each other, just go for it and see what happens - if it doesn't work out it wasn't meant to be and that's it. But all these mind games just keeps you from what could be the best thing that's ever happened to you. Saying that, i've definately noticed that if i withdraw a little he's the one that starts putting the effort in so to speak, so maybe branh0193 has a point. And, Qbone, i know that whatever is going on between me and my virgo is far from a serious relationship, but i'd like to think it's the start of something - that's the problem. I'm like at that point where i want to know where and if this is going anywhere, cause if he just wants to stay friends, i don't want to be the one losing my heart completely! And I know what probably everyone will be telling me - i'd just have to come out with it and ask him straight out, even if i'm scared of what he might say. 🙂
Just wanted to say that the reason i'm writing on the virgo message board is because i find him to be the ultimate virgo and thought it might extend to how he handle relationships as well - he's more of a loner (only has a close circle of friends he's had since school), he come's across as being quiet (not with people he knows well though), he's shy and blushes very easily, he looks as if he's in complete control of his emotions and feelings, he's very practical and methodical, thinks before he speaks (I have to literally stop myself from speaking before he's answered a question! 🙂), but he is also very considerate, helpful, kind, he loves animals, has huge soulful eyes and a gorgeous smile, goes to the gym almost every day (and showers before he goes AND after he comes back!), has to plan everything in advance (not very spur of the moment), is very patient, always on time etc. In a lot of the things i'm the exact opposite, especially the emotional things - sometimes i don't think we're not that well matched after all, but we get along so well - we can laugh till it hurts, but feel comfortable enough to share intimate, be it embarrasing details of ourselvelves. Sometimes i do get tired trying to figure out what's happening and i tell myself to stop trying and just see what happens, but that's hard for me - i either want to know it's just friends or more than, so i could put myself in the right frame of mind without getting too hurt. Does that make sense?
Thanks again, though, for all the advice. PS: Qbone, what would "over the limits" be?
Thanks so much for all your opinions! Just to clear up a few things - I don't love mr virgo just yet. Yes, i love him as a friend, but to LOVE someone is on a completely different level. And txting, Qbone, is just the word i use for using our mobile phones to talk, which, and i absolutely agree with u on this, is just completely stupid and useless, because it's the talking that can make or break a relationship. It's just, it's so hard to talk about the serious stuff and we're both not really good doing it (him more so than i), so the "txting" kind of takes the pressure off - not that that's a good thing really.
I think a lot of what SeizeTheDay has said makes sense. However, I have always been aware about the fact that we both came out of relationships not long ago - we have asked each other about it on occasion - he knows i'm completely over my ex (he knew him) and he's told me quite a few times he's over his ex (but i must admit, i wonder sometimes). The thing is i'm most definately also not into this game playing thing, like looneybird says. To me it's just a waste of time - if two people like each other, just go for it and see what happens - if it doesn't work out it wasn't meant to be and that's it. But all these mind games just keeps you from what could be the best thing that's ever happened to you. Saying that, i've definately noticed that if i withdraw a little he's the one that starts putting the effort in so to speak, so maybe branh0193 has a point. And, Qbone, i know that whatever is going on between me and my virgo is far from a serious relationship, but i'd like to think it's the start of something - that's the problem. I'm like at that point where i want to know where and if this is going anywhere, cause if he just wants to stay friends, i don't want to be the one losing my heart completely! And I know what probably everyone will be telling me - i'd just have to come out with it and ask him straight out, even if i'm scared of what he might say. 🙂
Just wanted to say that the reason i'm writing on the virgo message board is because i find him to be the ultimate virgo and thought it might extend to how he handle relationships as well - he's more of a loner (only has a close circle of friends he's had since school), he come's across as being quiet (not with people he knows well though), he's shy and blushes very easily, he looks as if he's in complete control of his emotions and feelings, he's very practical and methodical, thinks before he speaks (I have to literally stop myself from speaking before he's answered a question! 🙂), but he is also very considerate, helpful, kind, he loves animals, has huge soulful eyes and a gorgeous smile, goes to the gym almost every day (and showers before he goes AND after he comes back!), has to plan everything in advance (not very spur of the moment), is very patient, always on time etc. In a lot of the things i'm the exact opposite, especially the emotional things - sometimes i don't think we're not that well matched after all, but we get along so well - we can laugh till it hurts, but feel comfortable enough to share intimate, be it embarrasing details of ourselvelves. Sometimes i do get tired trying to figure out what's happening and i tell myself to stop trying and just see what happens, but that's hard for me - i either want to know it's just friends or more than, so i could put myself in the right frame of mind without getting too hurt. Does that make sense?
Thanks again, though, for all the advice. PS: Qbone, what would "over the limits" be?
Ahhh
LIMITS.....
Like your road signs.. that says... limit is 50 and you running for 80?. That?s the limits?
Now to tell you some more fun?
I love a woman "dearly" 12000 km away from me? what is my option then..??
I want her right now "can't have her"? wanted to talk to her right know "person to person".. can't have it neither?
It goes for the "acceptance" of the "limitations"? There are things that needed "times" to be developed--- whether you like it or not?!, those things also can change the whole universe for you??. Don?t worry about it much.!
It happened to everyone of us? one way or another—.! And its going to happen to every other "new generations" too.
Important is?sh!t happens and that?s the way it is.. We all learning from "sh!ts"?!
Don?t get hard on yourself? its alike for all of us..!
LIMITS.....
Like your road signs.. that says... limit is 50 and you running for 80?. That?s the limits?
Now to tell you some more fun?
I love a woman "dearly" 12000 km away from me? what is my option then..??
I want her right now "can't have her"? wanted to talk to her right know "person to person".. can't have it neither?
It goes for the "acceptance" of the "limitations"? There are things that needed "times" to be developed--- whether you like it or not?!, those things also can change the whole universe for you??. Don?t worry about it much.!
It happened to everyone of us? one way or another—.! And its going to happen to every other "new generations" too.
Important is?sh!t happens and that?s the way it is.. We all learning from "sh!ts"?!
Don?t get hard on yourself? its alike for all of us..!
Hi everybody, how you guys doing?
To:Branh 9/13
I am sure that you are a inteligent person, with your stuff together. However I just wish that you will stop being so Black and White, and that you will not generalize us male Virgos based solely on your own experiences.
I am a male Virgo 8/24 and I do not agree with most of the stuff that you write. I am also sure that this is not helping the person or persons who are looking for advice here.
In ending please stop refering to virgo and virgo logic/virgo mindset, etc, and start refering to "me" "I" etc.
To:Branh 9/13
I am sure that you are a inteligent person, with your stuff together. However I just wish that you will stop being so Black and White, and that you will not generalize us male Virgos based solely on your own experiences.
I am a male Virgo 8/24 and I do not agree with most of the stuff that you write. I am also sure that this is not helping the person or persons who are looking for advice here.
In ending please stop refering to virgo and virgo logic/virgo mindset, etc, and start refering to "me" "I" etc.
Hi Branh, how are you?
I have absolutelly no interest in hostile conversation. You are right about that. Furthermore I have nothing personally against you....
However you saying things like we virgos cannot deal with Romantic Idealism, and "either accept that or, you might as well not even deal with a Virgo" , bothers me.
It bothers me mainly because this board is for ALL Virgos, and your statements are contrary to my beliefs, and to my Modus Operandus. I consider myself the ultimate romantic idealist - I would do anything for love, and for the object of my desire.
" Virgo has to play mind games every once in awhile" - I most certainly do not do that.
Let's agree to disagree and move on. I am asking you for a favor though. Please make a difference between you and other Virgos, on your posts. Thank you
I have absolutelly no interest in hostile conversation. You are right about that. Furthermore I have nothing personally against you....
However you saying things like we virgos cannot deal with Romantic Idealism, and "either accept that or, you might as well not even deal with a Virgo" , bothers me.
It bothers me mainly because this board is for ALL Virgos, and your statements are contrary to my beliefs, and to my Modus Operandus. I consider myself the ultimate romantic idealist - I would do anything for love, and for the object of my desire.
" Virgo has to play mind games every once in awhile" - I most certainly do not do that.
Let's agree to disagree and move on. I am asking you for a favor though. Please make a difference between you and other Virgos, on your posts. Thank you
"You have an idealized view of love, and I am sure you are willing to risk anything to establish the connection."
Well Branh let me say this ..you are not getting it that you are dealing with a Cancerian here....the secretive one... the strategist. Unfortunately your logical mind has not figured out a cancer woman yet & hence your ignorant statement LOL..except for few words.. "idealised view of love"..yes I am idealistic & thats y I rapport with virgos too well. But how come not with you? Virgos are the people whose sensibility I trust. How come not yours?
And yes let me tell you this..if you want a good reliable info on Cancer woman..dont read Linda Goodman's "Cancer Woman" chapter. Read hers "Cancer Boss" & "Cancer Employee" chapter. You may say u r not interested... never seen a cancer woman..or know none.... Hmmmm. Possible. But before replying to my answer next time it will be a big help.
And you mentioned something about "Practical Romanticism" somewhere. Well... Once at 3 am my kids wanted Ice Cream..off we went and drove around till we found one Icecream shop. And once my ex BF needed some medical help at 2 am in the morning. I drove to his house and took him to the hospital...Now since I am not a virgo but a cancer....what kind of Romanticism would this be?
And then your another statement which you are a bit too fond of:
"So if no one can deal with that, you might as well not even deal with a Virgo."
Will you please replace the word virgo in that statement with Branh? So that I dont feel that you are insulting my favorite people- DA VIRGOS?
Well Branh let me say this ..you are not getting it that you are dealing with a Cancerian here....the secretive one... the strategist. Unfortunately your logical mind has not figured out a cancer woman yet & hence your ignorant statement LOL..except for few words.. "idealised view of love"..yes I am idealistic & thats y I rapport with virgos too well. But how come not with you? Virgos are the people whose sensibility I trust. How come not yours?
And yes let me tell you this..if you want a good reliable info on Cancer woman..dont read Linda Goodman's "Cancer Woman" chapter. Read hers "Cancer Boss" & "Cancer Employee" chapter. You may say u r not interested... never seen a cancer woman..or know none.... Hmmmm. Possible. But before replying to my answer next time it will be a big help.
And you mentioned something about "Practical Romanticism" somewhere. Well... Once at 3 am my kids wanted Ice Cream..off we went and drove around till we found one Icecream shop. And once my ex BF needed some medical help at 2 am in the morning. I drove to his house and took him to the hospital...Now since I am not a virgo but a cancer....what kind of Romanticism would this be?
And then your another statement which you are a bit too fond of:
"So if no one can deal with that, you might as well not even deal with a Virgo."
Will you please replace the word virgo in that statement with Branh? So that I dont feel that you are insulting my favorite people- DA VIRGOS?
Brahn?
I don't like to explain my life and put it as an example, but I can assure you.. that few people in this world has experienced the life as the way I did and still do.
I am not so much fan of (technical English) so, I have less understanding about those big words like "Practical Romanticism and Romantic idealism"..(To many isms to handle) and I hate every ISM?..
But?!
Will you do me a favour please and be kindly pick up a book called "Les Miserables" by "Victor Hugo" and follow the character called "Jean Valjean"..!!
Hugo will show you all the answers you need about Self sacrifice, love, life, affections, care and so on.. in a beautiful language..!
Stop reading "technical manual" please and pick up some "literature" instead, those are the "spirit's bible" in the time of darkness, a true human treasure for the lost heart and minds.
PS!
I agree with Excess about "Virgo" thing.. what "you" are is who "you" are "personally".. I can't even find 2% of what you say about Virgo's in my self or any other Virgo I know.
I Start to suspect that, are you truly a Virgo..! or someone else in Virgo's clothing..?
I don't like to explain my life and put it as an example, but I can assure you.. that few people in this world has experienced the life as the way I did and still do.
I am not so much fan of (technical English) so, I have less understanding about those big words like "Practical Romanticism and Romantic idealism"..(To many isms to handle) and I hate every ISM?..
But?!
Will you do me a favour please and be kindly pick up a book called "Les Miserables" by "Victor Hugo" and follow the character called "Jean Valjean"..!!
Hugo will show you all the answers you need about Self sacrifice, love, life, affections, care and so on.. in a beautiful language..!
Stop reading "technical manual" please and pick up some "literature" instead, those are the "spirit's bible" in the time of darkness, a true human treasure for the lost heart and minds.
PS!
I agree with Excess about "Virgo" thing.. what "you" are is who "you" are "personally".. I can't even find 2% of what you say about Virgo's in my self or any other Virgo I know.
I Start to suspect that, are you truly a Virgo..! or someone else in Virgo's clothing..?
"I am a VIRGO who FEELS and VIEW the world this way"
Brahn
Yes sir? I have no objection about your view nor desire to advise you to change the way it is, as far as I concern we both have a similar kinship in our field of research and thoughts, but with the 180 degrees differences.
Technically speaking if someone can not use the computer hardware and software means "computer illiteracy" and must be taught and trained in a way that he/she gets the benefit of using it, simply sitting in front of monitor and pushing keys won't make anyone a "computer literate ".
Same goes for the person that have a problem with the "spiritual side" of living beings too, it can be named as "social, cultural, psychological, spiritual, illiteracy", going out and having fun with the friends and picking up a boy/girlfriends, "imitation without deep realisation of social engagements"! Won't give that person the benefits of the "spiritual side" of the living beings and must be taught and trained.
No offence and I am not attacking any point of view, however my point is? WHO IS VIRGO then..?? You, with your computer and the math studies? Or, me in the spiritual department?
If you by any chance talking about Virgo's "TECHNICAL/TACTICAL diagnosis and advices" then I agree with you, otherwise I don?t. Everyone can achieve anything in every department in this universe by "willing to understand and trying". Even on deep emotional and spiritual level, regardless of culture and backgrounds.
Please don?t get offended if someone out of your "surrounding area" questioning your point of view about something that you have a little knowledge of, because as you know, this place is for sharing more "human spiritualism" touch and thoughts than the binary theory and the relation between 0 - 1.
I for myself like things from the both words and developed a sense to understand both, hence keep the balance in between.
I wish you could do the same.
Talking about shyness..!
All comes from "self-confidence" sense? a lack of "specific social" knowledge leads to shyness, why "specific"? Because if I pop in the communities that don?t fit for my thoughts and classes then naturally I get shy because I have nothing to offer or worth to mention simple as that, geeks with geeks ? nerds with nerds ? humans with humans? (lol sorry about the last statement.).
My point is: choosing the right partner is darn crucial and difficult these days, its not like the way it was (like our mom and dad ways) and its getting worse each day until.. at least 5 generations of humans passing by "to forget what it was like". Unless one could at least master 10% of all knowledge around this planet..! just to be confidence enough to start a conversation with someone different.! That?s another story?!
Peace and again, and no offence to anyone!
Brahn
Yes sir? I have no objection about your view nor desire to advise you to change the way it is, as far as I concern we both have a similar kinship in our field of research and thoughts, but with the 180 degrees differences.
Technically speaking if someone can not use the computer hardware and software means "computer illiteracy" and must be taught and trained in a way that he/she gets the benefit of using it, simply sitting in front of monitor and pushing keys won't make anyone a "computer literate ".
Same goes for the person that have a problem with the "spiritual side" of living beings too, it can be named as "social, cultural, psychological, spiritual, illiteracy", going out and having fun with the friends and picking up a boy/girlfriends, "imitation without deep realisation of social engagements"! Won't give that person the benefits of the "spiritual side" of the living beings and must be taught and trained.
No offence and I am not attacking any point of view, however my point is? WHO IS VIRGO then..?? You, with your computer and the math studies? Or, me in the spiritual department?
If you by any chance talking about Virgo's "TECHNICAL/TACTICAL diagnosis and advices" then I agree with you, otherwise I don?t. Everyone can achieve anything in every department in this universe by "willing to understand and trying". Even on deep emotional and spiritual level, regardless of culture and backgrounds.
Please don?t get offended if someone out of your "surrounding area" questioning your point of view about something that you have a little knowledge of, because as you know, this place is for sharing more "human spiritualism" touch and thoughts than the binary theory and the relation between 0 - 1.
I for myself like things from the both words and developed a sense to understand both, hence keep the balance in between.
I wish you could do the same.
Talking about shyness..!
All comes from "self-confidence" sense? a lack of "specific social" knowledge leads to shyness, why "specific"? Because if I pop in the communities that don?t fit for my thoughts and classes then naturally I get shy because I have nothing to offer or worth to mention simple as that, geeks with geeks ? nerds with nerds ? humans with humans? (lol sorry about the last statement.).
My point is: choosing the right partner is darn crucial and difficult these days, its not like the way it was (like our mom and dad ways) and its getting worse each day until.. at least 5 generations of humans passing by "to forget what it was like". Unless one could at least master 10% of all knowledge around this planet..! just to be confidence enough to start a conversation with someone different.! That?s another story?!
Peace and again, and no offence to anyone!
Brahn..
You post about Virgo being realistic..!
Please define the sense of being realistic..??
There are things that (your Virgo mind) diagnoses as impossible and risky and says NO..!
Same goes for (my Virgo mind) and it says YES.. great, get on with it..!
Which diagnostic is real and correct then ?
Realism is neither negativism nor positivism, everything is relative, and subjected to test individually to proven the fact, even then; nobody can assure that the general opinion and assumption about the subject is correct and real for everyone in every situation, so how can you be so sure about your diagnostic that is correct..?? +/- Level of acceptance is not the certainty, so the risk must be taken in every occasions and situations.
In human relationship everything is risky and can not be calculated, however; both sides can be cooperative with their goals and share the benefits of their agreements both on material and spiritual levels, general idea says "if you know about your partner more than your partner knows about him/herself" then this partnership is getting nowhere? "especially for the safri's post and her request".
Risks must be taken and self-sacrifices required for any successful "start" with anyone under any signs, if someone you see, is "worth the effort" then take the risk and get on with it, calculating of the star sign and predicting "how to handle and behave in particular situation" is nonsense and waste of time it makes you feel silly, not superior.
You post about Virgo being realistic..!
Please define the sense of being realistic..??
There are things that (your Virgo mind) diagnoses as impossible and risky and says NO..!
Same goes for (my Virgo mind) and it says YES.. great, get on with it..!
Which diagnostic is real and correct then ?
Realism is neither negativism nor positivism, everything is relative, and subjected to test individually to proven the fact, even then; nobody can assure that the general opinion and assumption about the subject is correct and real for everyone in every situation, so how can you be so sure about your diagnostic that is correct..?? +/- Level of acceptance is not the certainty, so the risk must be taken in every occasions and situations.
In human relationship everything is risky and can not be calculated, however; both sides can be cooperative with their goals and share the benefits of their agreements both on material and spiritual levels, general idea says "if you know about your partner more than your partner knows about him/herself" then this partnership is getting nowhere? "especially for the safri's post and her request".
Risks must be taken and self-sacrifices required for any successful "start" with anyone under any signs, if someone you see, is "worth the effort" then take the risk and get on with it, calculating of the star sign and predicting "how to handle and behave in particular situation" is nonsense and waste of time it makes you feel silly, not superior.
Hi everyone,
Been away for a couple of days but enjoyed reading everyones post when i came back. Me and my virgo have been chatting at work about dating, relationships etc. following an upcoming blind date by one of our friends (at work). Now, i know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but i do think my virgo is quite good looking - maybe its just me being in love, but then, he does get quite a bit of attention of women in general. Things he said to me that was quite surprising were like: he could never just go up to a woman and start chatting unless he was quite drunk and he'd definately rather txt (sms) than phone a woman. He also told me that the one thing that would keep him from being his best friend's best man on his wedding one day would be the fact that he would have to make a speech - and by best friend i mean they've known each other since childhood! All things that, at least for me, kind of points to an insecurity of some sort. But surely he must know that he is quite good looking. He's funny, clever, has great manners, dependable - everything a woman (or at least me) look for.
I am very demonstrative with my feelings/emotions - and have told him things on different occasions like: i'm looking forward to the w/e except that i don't get to see him, he makes me laugh, he's a great listener, he looked really sexy one w/e we worked together (did not have normal work uniform on), he's got a great smile - i know these things make him blush/go shy and i usually add, tongue in the cheek, that he doesn't need to reply to them - to me these things are all things i would compliment a really good friend with (except mayb for the sexy look one 🙂 ) as well, but he certainly knows I fancy him. I have asked him again that he should promise me that he would let me know somehow if anything i say/do is inappropriate, cause i don't always think with my head - he told me I have nothing to worry about, as he'd done before, but its hard to always guess what he's feeling exactly or thinking. The only clues i get is like when one of his really good friends told me that he couldn't stop talking about me and we should get it together, or when i catch him looking and smiling at me or how he's always txting me (on the phone) when i'm going out with my friends (this is without exception - we send each other pics on the phone about nonsense, make jokes about being drunk and sending each other all kinds of silly msg's, i would often say something like i wish u were here, and he'd reply: me too - always putting kisses. Friday nite (i was at a 70's disco) the same happened: he said he wished he was there - i replied: i wouldve asked but you wouldn't come - he didn't make any comment about that specific bit in the msg. How am i suppose to be sure of how he feels? I don't mind him not being able to show his feelings like me at all, just as long as i had some secure knowledge of HOW he feels about me!
When we were out together (in a group) a few weeks ago my friend asked him why he doesn't ask me out then as it seems though he really likes me - he said that i wouldn't have him (we were all a little drunk). He has also before told me that i am perfect - i said he must be joking, i'm far from it!
The only thing i kind of rely on is that he would tell me (or let me know somehow) if our relationship is going somewhere he wouldn't want it to go! it's such a guess guess situation from my point of view - but at the same time i don't want to rush him. MEN!! 🙂
Been away for a couple of days but enjoyed reading everyones post when i came back. Me and my virgo have been chatting at work about dating, relationships etc. following an upcoming blind date by one of our friends (at work). Now, i know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but i do think my virgo is quite good looking - maybe its just me being in love, but then, he does get quite a bit of attention of women in general. Things he said to me that was quite surprising were like: he could never just go up to a woman and start chatting unless he was quite drunk and he'd definately rather txt (sms) than phone a woman. He also told me that the one thing that would keep him from being his best friend's best man on his wedding one day would be the fact that he would have to make a speech - and by best friend i mean they've known each other since childhood! All things that, at least for me, kind of points to an insecurity of some sort. But surely he must know that he is quite good looking. He's funny, clever, has great manners, dependable - everything a woman (or at least me) look for.
I am very demonstrative with my feelings/emotions - and have told him things on different occasions like: i'm looking forward to the w/e except that i don't get to see him, he makes me laugh, he's a great listener, he looked really sexy one w/e we worked together (did not have normal work uniform on), he's got a great smile - i know these things make him blush/go shy and i usually add, tongue in the cheek, that he doesn't need to reply to them - to me these things are all things i would compliment a really good friend with (except mayb for the sexy look one 🙂 ) as well, but he certainly knows I fancy him. I have asked him again that he should promise me that he would let me know somehow if anything i say/do is inappropriate, cause i don't always think with my head - he told me I have nothing to worry about, as he'd done before, but its hard to always guess what he's feeling exactly or thinking. The only clues i get is like when one of his really good friends told me that he couldn't stop talking about me and we should get it together, or when i catch him looking and smiling at me or how he's always txting me (on the phone) when i'm going out with my friends (this is without exception - we send each other pics on the phone about nonsense, make jokes about being drunk and sending each other all kinds of silly msg's, i would often say something like i wish u were here, and he'd reply: me too - always putting kisses. Friday nite (i was at a 70's disco) the same happened: he said he wished he was there - i replied: i wouldve asked but you wouldn't come - he didn't make any comment about that specific bit in the msg. How am i suppose to be sure of how he feels? I don't mind him not being able to show his feelings like me at all, just as long as i had some secure knowledge of HOW he feels about me!
When we were out together (in a group) a few weeks ago my friend asked him why he doesn't ask me out then as it seems though he really likes me - he said that i wouldn't have him (we were all a little drunk). He has also before told me that i am perfect - i said he must be joking, i'm far from it!
The only thing i kind of rely on is that he would tell me (or let me know somehow) if our relationship is going somewhere he wouldn't want it to go! it's such a guess guess situation from my point of view - but at the same time i don't want to rush him. MEN!! 🙂
Hello all and especially to Safri! 🙂
I'm new here. Sorry to butt in all of a sudden. I just want to let you (Safri) know that I personally think you have made the best decision for now. Just let this situation unfolds naturally and while at it, keep your Virgo friend in the know about your feelings by paying attention to him. There is no good in telling him how you feel when he is not ready for it. The compromise that he should tell you whenever he's not feeling comfortable around you is assurance enough.
I wish you luck! 🙂
I'm new here. Sorry to butt in all of a sudden. I just want to let you (Safri) know that I personally think you have made the best decision for now. Just let this situation unfolds naturally and while at it, keep your Virgo friend in the know about your feelings by paying attention to him. There is no good in telling him how you feel when he is not ready for it. The compromise that he should tell you whenever he's not feeling comfortable around you is assurance enough.
I wish you luck! 🙂
Oh, did I forget to mention, if he's really interested in you, you don't have to worry that you will lose him. The fact that he mentioned you as "perfect" is a clear indication that he sees you as someone special, and no, he's never going to let you away from him easily. He is probably just still analyzing other aspects or cleaning his "systems" and preparing for you into his life. Patience, is a keyword here (and I'm sure you have no trouble with that).
On the other hand (I'm going to sound contradictory here >.
On the other hand (I'm going to sound contradictory here >.
Yeah Safri, MissBovine is Right. Your virgo has given you enough hints about how much you mean to him & he is looking forward to be with you as much as he can. In my opinion you are making a progression with him.
Best Wishes.
Best Wishes.
Safri,
If next time I drop by your town and you & your man are still in same situation allow me to help you decoding his text messages. When he text, I wish I was there, he meant, "I want to come there and take you to my room". Sigh! Females.
If next time I drop by your town and you & your man are still in same situation allow me to help you decoding his text messages. When he text, I wish I was there, he meant, "I want to come there and take you to my room". Sigh! Females.
Hiya all,
Thank you missbovine, looneybird and bigdad - i love reading everyone's post. And bigdad...about what u said...i could only wish...🙂
I think, in the very back of my mind, i am afraid that he would just turn around and say that, after everything, he isn't really interested in me, the fear of getting hurt i suppose - i am so scared of that - it makes me want to just drop everything and not take that risk. I would like to know what everyone else suggests - should i persevere (with the risks involved) or should i pull back and who knows, i mite meet someone of who's feelings i could be sure?
Thank you all 🙂
Thank you missbovine, looneybird and bigdad - i love reading everyone's post. And bigdad...about what u said...i could only wish...🙂
I think, in the very back of my mind, i am afraid that he would just turn around and say that, after everything, he isn't really interested in me, the fear of getting hurt i suppose - i am so scared of that - it makes me want to just drop everything and not take that risk. I would like to know what everyone else suggests - should i persevere (with the risks involved) or should i pull back and who knows, i mite meet someone of who's feelings i could be sure?
Thank you all 🙂
Hi Safri.
Well. . .one of you is going to have to take the risk of action. Something has to be sparked to let each of your know where the other stands. If it's not him, then it has to be you. He could very well be interested in you and just don't want to put himself out there. That same you don't.
If I was you, I'd create an scene where both of you can just talk. Coffee, lunch, whatever. Steer the conversation in the area of relationships, feelings . . .nothing overt, but something has to be done to atleast give a potential for a push.
To diverge for a moment. Answer me something. Say he only views you as a friend. Are you able to be just friends with him? Say, you and him talk. The door of ambiguity creeks open to clarity, all at once you know where you stand. If it's in a friend zone. Can you accept that? Or is it all or nothing?
Just curious. If you can't be friends with him, why not? This has happened a few times, I just want another perspective.
VirgoSquared
Well. . .one of you is going to have to take the risk of action. Something has to be sparked to let each of your know where the other stands. If it's not him, then it has to be you. He could very well be interested in you and just don't want to put himself out there. That same you don't.
If I was you, I'd create an scene where both of you can just talk. Coffee, lunch, whatever. Steer the conversation in the area of relationships, feelings . . .nothing overt, but something has to be done to atleast give a potential for a push.
To diverge for a moment. Answer me something. Say he only views you as a friend. Are you able to be just friends with him? Say, you and him talk. The door of ambiguity creeks open to clarity, all at once you know where you stand. If it's in a friend zone. Can you accept that? Or is it all or nothing?
Just curious. If you can't be friends with him, why not? This has happened a few times, I just want another perspective.
VirgoSquared
Safri
To my experience, close friendship between male and female is nonsense...sooner or later one of the sides gets emotional and going to deal with the feelings and calling the other side the (remote, senseless, cold bastard)?.."this is the reality.. not the fact"
If you are smart, you get to the bottom line.. Pardon me to be frank but, try "sexual engagements", this is the reality for both of you, and you both know it, feel it, and want it. After that, start to get to the philosophical side of your relationship?!
See BigDad is right when he said:
"When he text, I wish I was there, he meant, "I want to come there and take you to my room".
Understanding this requires age of true experiences.
As I've said it before, you are not even sure that you like the guy, you've been attracted to his " style " and that?s it..! This has nothing to do with love and affections or possible relation..
You are just curious for "what or who" he is? !
To my experience, close friendship between male and female is nonsense...sooner or later one of the sides gets emotional and going to deal with the feelings and calling the other side the (remote, senseless, cold bastard)?.."this is the reality.. not the fact"
If you are smart, you get to the bottom line.. Pardon me to be frank but, try "sexual engagements", this is the reality for both of you, and you both know it, feel it, and want it. After that, start to get to the philosophical side of your relationship?!
See BigDad is right when he said:
"When he text, I wish I was there, he meant, "I want to come there and take you to my room".
Understanding this requires age of true experiences.
As I've said it before, you are not even sure that you like the guy, you've been attracted to his " style " and that?s it..! This has nothing to do with love and affections or possible relation..
You are just curious for "what or who" he is? !
Acknowledgments Qbone. Welcome Safri. Girl the only abstacle in your way is your mind & fear of rejection. Your fearless mind will alone guide you through the rest.
Hiya all 🙂
Thank you Qbone, VirgoSquared and BigDad once again for your posts - i love reading other people's opinions! As for your advice regarding "sexual engagements" - we are bothe rather reserved, not inexperienced, but I, for instance, have been quite old fashioned in the past and the guy was usually the one who made that "physical move" first. On the other hand, i think the women he's been in relationships with was more the initiating kind. And then also, it's finding the right opportunity as we've only been out together (in a group) once - we were glued together like sellotape though (as one my friends put it: over each other like a rash! 🙂 Didn't kiss though. I do have the distinct feeling should we both be out again, something mite happen - not going out like on a date kind of thing - that would be just too weird for now - rather be out like in a group of friends. Except for the people we both work with, we both have seperate groups of friends, though.
Something I should mention though is: i actually stay with our manager and his wife (as lodger). He is a big man, a very 'in your face' type of person and if u get on his wrong side, he could be considered as rude and inconsiderate. I've lived with them for 3 years and get along with them really well, although they do infuriate me sometimes! I have been thinking about moving, to do my own thing a bit more, and the virgo in question has repeatedly encouraged me to move, much much more than anyone else! I get the impression he would find it quite uncomfortable coming to visit me with our manager around, for some or other reason - could that have an impact on anything, you think?
Then also, i think the reason i've had such difficulty knowing what to do or what to expect from this virgo is the fact that every other man i've ever been in a relationship with (my last relationship lasted 3 yrs) has been like me regarding showing their feelings and emotions, talking about it etc. I've just never gone through this experience with someone who was completely different.
To answer your question VirgoSquared, about just friendship, although i took some time to think about it, i knew the answer right from the start. If it was the case that my friend was having feelings for me, but i had none for him, yes, i could easily just be friends. However, as I am having very strong feelings for him, if he just wanted to be good friends, i would not be able to do it. What would also make it very hard just to be friends is the fact that i see him every day basically at work, and something would have to happen, like me or him changing jobs, or me falling in love with someone else etc. in order to even consider just being friends. It's sad, I know. Of course, time will force you to get over your feelings for someone if they don't feel the same, but it would take me very long if i am to be in his company so very often. 🙂 I am very much the type of person who, once I fall in love, drastic circumstances will have to force me to end the relationship. Hope that answered your question 🙂
S
Thank you Qbone, VirgoSquared and BigDad once again for your posts - i love reading other people's opinions! As for your advice regarding "sexual engagements" - we are bothe rather reserved, not inexperienced, but I, for instance, have been quite old fashioned in the past and the guy was usually the one who made that "physical move" first. On the other hand, i think the women he's been in relationships with was more the initiating kind. And then also, it's finding the right opportunity as we've only been out together (in a group) once - we were glued together like sellotape though (as one my friends put it: over each other like a rash! 🙂 Didn't kiss though. I do have the distinct feeling should we both be out again, something mite happen - not going out like on a date kind of thing - that would be just too weird for now - rather be out like in a group of friends. Except for the people we both work with, we both have seperate groups of friends, though.
Something I should mention though is: i actually stay with our manager and his wife (as lodger). He is a big man, a very 'in your face' type of person and if u get on his wrong side, he could be considered as rude and inconsiderate. I've lived with them for 3 years and get along with them really well, although they do infuriate me sometimes! I have been thinking about moving, to do my own thing a bit more, and the virgo in question has repeatedly encouraged me to move, much much more than anyone else! I get the impression he would find it quite uncomfortable coming to visit me with our manager around, for some or other reason - could that have an impact on anything, you think?
Then also, i think the reason i've had such difficulty knowing what to do or what to expect from this virgo is the fact that every other man i've ever been in a relationship with (my last relationship lasted 3 yrs) has been like me regarding showing their feelings and emotions, talking about it etc. I've just never gone through this experience with someone who was completely different.
To answer your question VirgoSquared, about just friendship, although i took some time to think about it, i knew the answer right from the start. If it was the case that my friend was having feelings for me, but i had none for him, yes, i could easily just be friends. However, as I am having very strong feelings for him, if he just wanted to be good friends, i would not be able to do it. What would also make it very hard just to be friends is the fact that i see him every day basically at work, and something would have to happen, like me or him changing jobs, or me falling in love with someone else etc. in order to even consider just being friends. It's sad, I know. Of course, time will force you to get over your feelings for someone if they don't feel the same, but it would take me very long if i am to be in his company so very often. 🙂 I am very much the type of person who, once I fall in love, drastic circumstances will have to force me to end the relationship. Hope that answered your question 🙂
S
Hi Safri.
Yeah, unfortunately, it does answer my question.
Well, sweetheart. Everything else aside, it's all based on you. What you're comfortable with. Sex isn't the great clarifier so. . .you may want to scratch that for now.
As for fearlessness. BD. Old man, I hope nothing in life ever happens to force you to grow enough to reveal how naive that is. You probably haven't even got to a point where you even understand I just sent you a positive wish.
Don't worry, hopefully you have a few years left. You maybe able to squeeze a little experience in there. Now, before you take offense and argue or whine, just realize either you don't understand what I just wrote. Either you do understand what I wrote and just haven't progressed enough to understand it's meaning. Or you're just going to take counterpoint which is neither here nor there. It doesn't really matter. Without the aspect of growth to genuinely demonstrate, prolonged explanation would be like explaining quantum entanglement to a three year old. It's a waste.
I'll just end my part with, I wish you well on your journey. 🙂
Safri . . .no one with common sense is fearless. I won't even go into the full blown explanation of why. The key thing is to be able to work through that fear. In this instance, BD has a point. You can't let a fear of rejection, dictate your actions. I get the not wanting to be rejected thing. It sucks. At the same time, if you genuinely like him and you believe he genuinely likes you. You have to take that step to get across what you're feeling. At the very least try to get him to reveal how he's feeling. Going out with friends isn't going to cut it. You have to take a step. It doesn't have to be a Neil Armstrong, but something.
Regardless of what's swirling around in your mind, the fact that something has to initiate action isn't going to change. Send fear to the corner on this one. Is "care" worth more than "fear of rejection" here? If it is. Do something about it. Even if it's just asking him for time alone.
Just keep in mind, it's all you. There's no right or wrong.
Good luck,
VirgoSquared
Yeah, unfortunately, it does answer my question.
Well, sweetheart. Everything else aside, it's all based on you. What you're comfortable with. Sex isn't the great clarifier so. . .you may want to scratch that for now.
As for fearlessness. BD. Old man, I hope nothing in life ever happens to force you to grow enough to reveal how naive that is. You probably haven't even got to a point where you even understand I just sent you a positive wish.
Don't worry, hopefully you have a few years left. You maybe able to squeeze a little experience in there. Now, before you take offense and argue or whine, just realize either you don't understand what I just wrote. Either you do understand what I wrote and just haven't progressed enough to understand it's meaning. Or you're just going to take counterpoint which is neither here nor there. It doesn't really matter. Without the aspect of growth to genuinely demonstrate, prolonged explanation would be like explaining quantum entanglement to a three year old. It's a waste.
I'll just end my part with, I wish you well on your journey. 🙂
Safri . . .no one with common sense is fearless. I won't even go into the full blown explanation of why. The key thing is to be able to work through that fear. In this instance, BD has a point. You can't let a fear of rejection, dictate your actions. I get the not wanting to be rejected thing. It sucks. At the same time, if you genuinely like him and you believe he genuinely likes you. You have to take that step to get across what you're feeling. At the very least try to get him to reveal how he's feeling. Going out with friends isn't going to cut it. You have to take a step. It doesn't have to be a Neil Armstrong, but something.
Regardless of what's swirling around in your mind, the fact that something has to initiate action isn't going to change. Send fear to the corner on this one. Is "care" worth more than "fear of rejection" here? If it is. Do something about it. Even if it's just asking him for time alone.
Just keep in mind, it's all you. There's no right or wrong.
Good luck,
VirgoSquared
Ya. Know... HONEY and SWEETHEART...!!!later BABE.. perhaps?!!
SWEET TALK—?HHEHE------------------ SWEET NOTHING?.!!
FACE THE REAL.
To be Real? sweetheart!/ Honey—?.er—. babe—!!!—?.. things are different ?honey "sweetheart/honey/babe??..and as BD's "advice" to be "avoided"??.. life is a "sh!t"?whether you like it or NOT?"sweetheart/babe/honey!...............
Er BABE?!!
NEXT!!??. Sweetheart/ Babe/Honey..??...........
SWEET TALK—?HHEHE------------------ SWEET NOTHING?.!!
FACE THE REAL.
To be Real? sweetheart!/ Honey—?.er—. babe—!!!—?.. things are different ?honey "sweetheart/honey/babe??..and as BD's "advice" to be "avoided"??.. life is a "sh!t"?whether you like it or NOT?"sweetheart/babe/honey!...............
Er BABE?!!
NEXT!!??. Sweetheart/ Babe/Honey..??...........
SWEET—?..NOTHING—.!!
Hola!
Soy hoy surfing dxpnet. Para la diversion. Safri. Amigo! You ve tu let your BF know you seriously wanna be proximidad- very close. Virgo like that. No escape. Mi & BF for 2 months just talked, then 3 months dating alone - no hanky panky & then the hot vacation. Pick up the phone now. Recuerdos!😉
BigDad, VirgoSquared, Qbone, Branh0913,Looneybird- waving opinions like red flag to Bulls😉 el interesar.
Goce Amigos!
Soy hoy surfing dxpnet. Para la diversion. Safri. Amigo! You ve tu let your BF know you seriously wanna be proximidad- very close. Virgo like that. No escape. Mi & BF for 2 months just talked, then 3 months dating alone - no hanky panky & then the hot vacation. Pick up the phone now. Recuerdos!😉
BigDad, VirgoSquared, Qbone, Branh0913,Looneybird- waving opinions like red flag to Bulls😉 el interesar.
Goce Amigos!
Hello all,
Yes, you are all right-I am going to have to have a chat with him about all of this. In my heart I've known this from the start. HotScorp1, I would love to tell him I want to be very close, but am scared it would scare him a bit especially since I didn't think virgo's were so keen about all this kind of emotional talk - have you experienced the same with your virgo? How did you approach this without going over the top?
My love to everyone,
Safri
Yes, you are all right-I am going to have to have a chat with him about all of this. In my heart I've known this from the start. HotScorp1, I would love to tell him I want to be very close, but am scared it would scare him a bit especially since I didn't think virgo's were so keen about all this kind of emotional talk - have you experienced the same with your virgo? How did you approach this without going over the top?
My love to everyone,
Safri
Brahn
"I love mathematics, and there are tons of things I have to learn, and maybe will never learn in my lifetime. I just lean on math because it is what I am comfortable with. So looking at the realm of relationships, matters of the heart, or spirtuality, well I am a newcomer to all that."
Damn me if anyone says that they are complete with "spiritual side of the man"? no one is and never will be"complete"? because if anyone "who is completed" never share his/her opinion.
We all are "baby" in this department? see? you chose "mathematics".. Because of this is the precisions science.. see the humans feeling as "chaos" order?then you will realise that, even in "Chaos order", there is something that you can not calculate?even "fuzzy logics" wont help.. I've tried this many years ago.. and that?s why I abandoned every (formal science) in my life, because they wont show us the "scriptures" of the truth ??.!
In my head? is? Imaginary word??..Imaginary science.
I wish, that you "stop" your calculus mind and start to experience what life is "without
"I love mathematics, and there are tons of things I have to learn, and maybe will never learn in my lifetime. I just lean on math because it is what I am comfortable with. So looking at the realm of relationships, matters of the heart, or spirtuality, well I am a newcomer to all that."
Damn me if anyone says that they are complete with "spiritual side of the man"? no one is and never will be"complete"? because if anyone "who is completed" never share his/her opinion.
We all are "baby" in this department? see? you chose "mathematics".. Because of this is the precisions science.. see the humans feeling as "chaos" order?then you will realise that, even in "Chaos order", there is something that you can not calculate?even "fuzzy logics" wont help.. I've tried this many years ago.. and that?s why I abandoned every (formal science) in my life, because they wont show us the "scriptures" of the truth ??.!
In my head? is? Imaginary word??..Imaginary science.
I wish, that you "stop" your calculus mind and start to experience what life is "without
Safri
"HotScorp1, I would love to tell him I want to be very close"
Then what are you going to loose lady..?? At the end? it will be you and yourself anyway.
We all love you? so?.. you have US.. he has no one..lol
"HotScorp1, I would love to tell him I want to be very close"
Then what are you going to loose lady..?? At the end? it will be you and yourself anyway.
We all love you? so?.. you have US.. he has no one..lol
I'll be damn?
Is that you Hotscorplady..??
What is going on between you guys..??
Dear All,
I haven't been posting on the board at all lately, but have followed your discussions with great interests. And now, I just thought i'd mention that my virgo hs broken my heart....it hurt so much....but what can one do....he told me today he doesn't think he's ready for a relationship. Oh i know, maybe it is for the best....but sitting here and writing through the tears streaming down my face, it just feels like my world have come down around me.....why does it have to feel so bad. I hope no one else have to go through this, because it feels like i could just curl up in a little ball and dissappear somewhere....thank you for listening....
😢
No worries lady...!
Things are just like this for everyone and I?ve been through this several times, it would be stupid if I say don?t cry because it ease you up!
But he?ll be back, he probably freaked up too.. what ever you do, don?t judge yourself nor him take a deep breath and let time work with its magic
I?ll wish you a better day..!
Things are just like this for everyone and I?ve been through this several times, it would be stupid if I say don?t cry because it ease you up!
But he?ll be back, he probably freaked up too.. what ever you do, don?t judge yourself nor him take a deep breath and let time work with its magic
I?ll wish you a better day..!
Thank you, Qbone, you always say things so elegantly....and i know, with time, things will get better. I've been in this position once before and now again, like then, i understand so very well why they say your left heartbroken....cause that's how it feels...as if your heart is braking into little pieces and you can do nothing about it, but let time slowly patch together the pieces. And i know almost everyone at some point in their life, has to go through this, but somehow you still feel as if your the only one in the world feeling that bad......and who knows, maybe he did just say what he said because he was panicking, but i will just leave it there. I saw him all yesterday and today at work....he wasn't his happy self (no joking or laughing), in fact he looked quite down and quiet...whereas i was just being friendly and nice as usual, but without the familiarity we used to have with each other....i wonder if he misses that too....i suppose thats life....you can't always have what you want 😢
Hi safri
The broken heart?s sorrow and pain is so unique and so grave that no one can claim that yours is nothing compare to mine..! Individually it?s always unique..!
There are certain moments in every relationship that both sides need some space to think about ?what is next?, note that it is not ?who is next? but ?what is next?..!
That ?what is next? push people to get some distance, and in some unfortunate moments of misunderstanding the other part will think that ?that?s it? he/she wanted to end it?.
You need to be calm and focus your mind to something that blows your ?imaginations? and ?assumptions? ?away? from you at least for sometimes?. As I?ve said above.. Do not let your judgment rules you and your boyfriend, it serves you nothing but more pain and trouble.!
Just be calm and do something positive to yourself.. anything..! Anything that can take your mind away from this troubled time!
Good luck with it.
The broken heart?s sorrow and pain is so unique and so grave that no one can claim that yours is nothing compare to mine..! Individually it?s always unique..!
There are certain moments in every relationship that both sides need some space to think about ?what is next?, note that it is not ?who is next? but ?what is next?..!
That ?what is next? push people to get some distance, and in some unfortunate moments of misunderstanding the other part will think that ?that?s it? he/she wanted to end it?.
You need to be calm and focus your mind to something that blows your ?imaginations? and ?assumptions? ?away? from you at least for sometimes?. As I?ve said above.. Do not let your judgment rules you and your boyfriend, it serves you nothing but more pain and trouble.!
Just be calm and do something positive to yourself.. anything..! Anything that can take your mind away from this troubled time!
Good luck with it.
On the note...
You can always get what you want...!! ALWAYS..!
But, HOW YOU WANT, is the problem..! that?s the bugger leads us into misery.. ALWAYS.!
You can always get what you want...!! ALWAYS..!
But, HOW YOU WANT, is the problem..! that?s the bugger leads us into misery.. ALWAYS.!
Thanks Qbone,
You know, you should've been a writer (unless you are!) 🙂 What you say is true.....everything could be only temporarily....but i choose to believe that it is the not, because that makes it easier for me to get through the day....not to hope...maybe things will turn out differently & time and space were what we needed, but until such a time, in my mind, i say goodbye to what was.....my heart will take a little longer to say its goodbyes....
You know, you should've been a writer (unless you are!) 🙂 What you say is true.....everything could be only temporarily....but i choose to believe that it is the not, because that makes it easier for me to get through the day....not to hope...maybe things will turn out differently & time and space were what we needed, but until such a time, in my mind, i say goodbye to what was.....my heart will take a little longer to say its goodbyes....
Thanks for the complement lady?!
Everything is meaningless, even love is meaningless unless we humans give a meaning to it, decorate it, paint it, and describe it with words and poetry, and accept it.
I am not a fan of this proverb that say?s ?there is a lot of fish around? when heart is broken, friendship is hard to get and easy to lose, so we have to work very hard to make it happen and direct it in the way we wanted or else it chokes and stops!
It need a lot of efforts to stay on the relationships line, I myself was a darn egoist years ago and paid a heavy prices for my ignorance and foolishness just about the same situations as you are in now. ?this doesn?t mean that I become a wiser person? I just grew old and know more, that?s why I share the experience with you.?
Sometimes the other side gets so hurt that act as an ass and the continuation of relationship is depends on the other side ?single handed?, dose it worth the effort..??
Only time will tell? !
You just hang in there and see what will happen.
Everything is meaningless, even love is meaningless unless we humans give a meaning to it, decorate it, paint it, and describe it with words and poetry, and accept it.
I am not a fan of this proverb that say?s ?there is a lot of fish around? when heart is broken, friendship is hard to get and easy to lose, so we have to work very hard to make it happen and direct it in the way we wanted or else it chokes and stops!
It need a lot of efforts to stay on the relationships line, I myself was a darn egoist years ago and paid a heavy prices for my ignorance and foolishness just about the same situations as you are in now. ?this doesn?t mean that I become a wiser person? I just grew old and know more, that?s why I share the experience with you.?
Sometimes the other side gets so hurt that act as an ass and the continuation of relationship is depends on the other side ?single handed?, dose it worth the effort..??
Only time will tell? !
You just hang in there and see what will happen.
And ahh I?ve almost forgotten—.. !lease? do NOT ?TXTing??.. It only pushing you two AWAY from each other further, meet up and talk ?face to face? at any cost.!
And ahh I?ve almost forgotten—.. ! Please? do NOT ?TXTing??.. It only pushing you two further AWAY from each other, meet up and talk ?face to face? at any cost.!
Sorry damn English is chocking sometimes.
Sorry damn English is chocking sometimes.
No Qbone, i'm not txting at all...i miss it, but also think its for the best that i don't...I think, maybe, sometimes, i was just too easy for him...i liked him and he knew it....but then again...i told him time and time again he must let me know if he doesn't think along the same lines as i do....i feel a little used. No one's perfect though, and like u said....i shouldn't be judging either of us.
Thanks for making me feel a little better, Qbone 🙂
You are very welcome safri
One thing to remember is that people no matter what sign they are belongs to, always gets overwhelmed by loving and affections of other partner and it is confusing for some.
As you?ve said you where open with your feelings toward your partner and this left you vulnerable and now you feel kind of used and miserable, The vulnerability of openness and empathy are important qualities sorely lacking in today's relationships. Learn to develop these capacities in yourself, but avoid co-dependency.
Love is ultimately about dissolving boundaries, but not at your personal expense. Feelings of emptiness will do you no good. Know your boundaries and make sure you are not being taken advantage of or relied upon too heavily.
Express loving, kindness..? sure, but don't let an intense concern for the welfare of others compromise your own well being, it is very important to know this since you are so emotional.
Again? I wish you a better days.
One thing to remember is that people no matter what sign they are belongs to, always gets overwhelmed by loving and affections of other partner and it is confusing for some.
As you?ve said you where open with your feelings toward your partner and this left you vulnerable and now you feel kind of used and miserable, The vulnerability of openness and empathy are important qualities sorely lacking in today's relationships. Learn to develop these capacities in yourself, but avoid co-dependency.
Love is ultimately about dissolving boundaries, but not at your personal expense. Feelings of emptiness will do you no good. Know your boundaries and make sure you are not being taken advantage of or relied upon too heavily.
Express loving, kindness..? sure, but don't let an intense concern for the welfare of others compromise your own well being, it is very important to know this since you are so emotional.
Again? I wish you a better days.
Another thing to remember where Virgo?s are in concern, they/we need time to catch up with the events, its better for your relation to tune and ultimately turn off those turbo feeling?s so he can move at least at your speed.
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Now I understand much better how Branh0913 is trying to solve this universe aka Virgo head.
Hi again, Qbone
You speak so much truth....I read your messages and i just keep nodding my head, because you are so right (and it's things that applies to anyone no matter which star sign they are). But certainly the things you say about virgos, being one yourself....it describes him so well.....but i don't understand it sometimes....ie: he'd been telling me that he's always wanted to go travelling in Australia for 6 months/1 year, but uncertainties and circumstances has never really been right - last Monday he told me one of his best friends has just broken up with their g/f and now he's all ready to go - want them to sell their cars/flat/quit jobs and go....needless to say i was trying to be happy for him but spend half the day being quiet and sad....he asked me maybe three times what's wrong, that i should tell him, but i just smiled not saying anything....i came home after work and he txt me: hope i haven't said anything to upset you?, sorry if i have. I told him: of course not, i just go a bit quiet when i'm sad...i'm gonna miss him if he goes, that's all. Then he tells me not to worry, knowing he's luck it probably wouldn't work out, but if he ever did go he would miss me so much. This made me so sad, but also a little happy, cause he would miss me too...it brought tears to my eyes. I told him this and he said if i wanted to we could have a nice long chat about it the next day. That night he also txted me goodnite, sweet dreams and had put some kisses. So the next day....there were so many things i wanted to say, but couldn't...he told me to just say it,...but we both didn't really know where to begin.....eventually, later, i asked him if he was happy with the way things are between us...he smiled and said that he's not really unhappy, but....how do feel?....so i said the same (it was just so hard for us to say things we wanted to, whatever they might've been)....he said that i MUST be unhappy about things or else why would i ask?...again i said i'm not really UNHAPPY...and then he said: but you could be happier....and i said just to confuse everything even more: or more unhappy....i smiled and said that he knew what i was on about...we both just kind of laughed about it...and then i walked back to the work i was busy with (he also said earlier i was putting him on the spot!) At the very end of the day...as we were walking back to office i turned round and said...so we're just friends....he turned round saying: i shouldn't say that. I replied softly (cause there were other people around now)...i'm sorry, i would never do this normally, but if he's going awayi need to ask...then he just said: it probably wouldn't happen, even though his friend is really keen, it's such a big step...and then at the very end, as we we were standing right next to each other, he whispered that he didn't really WANT to go. We left it there for another day, but then, that night, after he txted me goodnite, i txted him that he means so much to me...the next day, as we were all driving to another town for work, i txted him: just so u know-i'm not happy with the way things are....and he txted: i worked that out, but the problem is he doesn't think he's ready for a relationship now, not just with me, but with anyone (the old: i don't want to make you feel bad, excuse!) and that he hopes i understand....i just said i do.
So maybe, in a way, i did push him to come out with it, but i couldn't just sit around not ever knowing....now, at least, i know, and i can move on......however hard it is.
Thank you for listening Qbone...it's nice to here an objective point of view....and what you say just makes me realise again (although my head knows this...my heart just needs a little reminding of it every now and again) that things like these are never anyone's fault....we can't choose the way we feel...and that's why we must respect each other's feelings....
You speak so much truth....I read your messages and i just keep nodding my head, because you are so right (and it's things that applies to anyone no matter which star sign they are). But certainly the things you say about virgos, being one yourself....it describes him so well.....but i don't understand it sometimes....ie: he'd been telling me that he's always wanted to go travelling in Australia for 6 months/1 year, but uncertainties and circumstances has never really been right - last Monday he told me one of his best friends has just broken up with their g/f and now he's all ready to go - want them to sell their cars/flat/quit jobs and go....needless to say i was trying to be happy for him but spend half the day being quiet and sad....he asked me maybe three times what's wrong, that i should tell him, but i just smiled not saying anything....i came home after work and he txt me: hope i haven't said anything to upset you?, sorry if i have. I told him: of course not, i just go a bit quiet when i'm sad...i'm gonna miss him if he goes, that's all. Then he tells me not to worry, knowing he's luck it probably wouldn't work out, but if he ever did go he would miss me so much. This made me so sad, but also a little happy, cause he would miss me too...it brought tears to my eyes. I told him this and he said if i wanted to we could have a nice long chat about it the next day. That night he also txted me goodnite, sweet dreams and had put some kisses. So the next day....there were so many things i wanted to say, but couldn't...he told me to just say it,...but we both didn't really know where to begin.....eventually, later, i asked him if he was happy with the way things are between us...he smiled and said that he's not really unhappy, but....how do feel?....so i said the same (it was just so hard for us to say things we wanted to, whatever they might've been)....he said that i MUST be unhappy about things or else why would i ask?...again i said i'm not really UNHAPPY...and then he said: but you could be happier....and i said just to confuse everything even more: or more unhappy....i smiled and said that he knew what i was on about...we both just kind of laughed about it...and then i walked back to the work i was busy with (he also said earlier i was putting him on the spot!) At the very end of the day...as we were walking back to office i turned round and said...so we're just friends....he turned round saying: i shouldn't say that. I replied softly (cause there were other people around now)...i'm sorry, i would never do this normally, but if he's going awayi need to ask...then he just said: it probably wouldn't happen, even though his friend is really keen, it's such a big step...and then at the very end, as we we were standing right next to each other, he whispered that he didn't really WANT to go. We left it there for another day, but then, that night, after he txted me goodnite, i txted him that he means so much to me...the next day, as we were all driving to another town for work, i txted him: just so u know-i'm not happy with the way things are....and he txted: i worked that out, but the problem is he doesn't think he's ready for a relationship now, not just with me, but with anyone (the old: i don't want to make you feel bad, excuse!) and that he hopes i understand....i just said i do.
So maybe, in a way, i did push him to come out with it, but i couldn't just sit around not ever knowing....now, at least, i know, and i can move on......however hard it is.
Thank you for listening Qbone...it's nice to here an objective point of view....and what you say just makes me realise again (although my head knows this...my heart just needs a little reminding of it every now and again) that things like these are never anyone's fault....we can't choose the way we feel...and that's why we must respect each other's feelings....
Hi safri
You are absolutely right for what you feel? but, first thing first.. he loves you, he is just confused, as you might be too?. Let him miss you (don?t make him jealous thou).
Those damn feelings is hard to verbalised, that?s why we have poet and philosophers.. what is important is to find a way to keep the pressure down or at least find a way to express it before you go insane.
You both are inexperience in this department, let me tell you about Virgo?s specialty that most people miss it, they call it analysing?. I call it understanding it is two different things, when we take a partner we try to understand the reasons of her/him happiness ?pick point? and sadness ?down points? then we get the balance in between and start our relationship in a way that we both enjoying and trusting!
When he ask what is the matter? It means he understand you so well that he knows there is something bothering you and you don?t share it, for the sake of certainty he asked several times, you evaded it and he got confused, because he didn?t get the answer! (please don?t expect everyone understand your feelings fully).
Now? you had your strangle and battle inside to keep the pressure down that how you feel about the whole thing , at the same time you wanted to respect his idea? ?That?s very noble of you; it is very rare quality reminding you? but you also get confused at this point and you might think that he may leave you alone and never get back!
Art of communications is very important here ?heart to heart and mind to mind? it is the only solution to clear up the dust that darken your soul and spirit don?t allow those little pathetic demons call it ?self-doubt and paranoia? take control of your beautiful spirit, please be creative and learn to be flexible with your emotions or you?ll suffer later in your life, tell him how much you love him and his adventure makes you worry! At the same time you can start to study and learn more about yourself and how to handle these emotions, you have one of those rare opportunities to develop yourself into a higher being!
This should be your next project ?The choice of evolution over perfection, or the choice of personal growth through relationship?, Instead of a fantasising, where everything falls into place perfectly and is taken care of without effort.
Our experience is naturally affected by external factors and cycles, the ups and downs of the times, you need to be matured in this department and the bad news is, there is no other way to learn from, but the deep sadness, trust me?. You get burned into ashes, but rising up like phoenix later in better (self), it happens to all of us, ?happened to me several times, still happening and it will happen again as long as I live?.
Don?t worry lady if things dose not fit in the way you wish, it is life and you MUST accept it!
You have no other choice?.no one has ever evaded the inevitable..!
You are absolutely right for what you feel? but, first thing first.. he loves you, he is just confused, as you might be too?. Let him miss you (don?t make him jealous thou).
Those damn feelings is hard to verbalised, that?s why we have poet and philosophers.. what is important is to find a way to keep the pressure down or at least find a way to express it before you go insane.
You both are inexperience in this department, let me tell you about Virgo?s specialty that most people miss it, they call it analysing?. I call it understanding it is two different things, when we take a partner we try to understand the reasons of her/him happiness ?pick point? and sadness ?down points? then we get the balance in between and start our relationship in a way that we both enjoying and trusting!
When he ask what is the matter? It means he understand you so well that he knows there is something bothering you and you don?t share it, for the sake of certainty he asked several times, you evaded it and he got confused, because he didn?t get the answer! (please don?t expect everyone understand your feelings fully).
Now? you had your strangle and battle inside to keep the pressure down that how you feel about the whole thing , at the same time you wanted to respect his idea? ?That?s very noble of you; it is very rare quality reminding you? but you also get confused at this point and you might think that he may leave you alone and never get back!
Art of communications is very important here ?heart to heart and mind to mind? it is the only solution to clear up the dust that darken your soul and spirit don?t allow those little pathetic demons call it ?self-doubt and paranoia? take control of your beautiful spirit, please be creative and learn to be flexible with your emotions or you?ll suffer later in your life, tell him how much you love him and his adventure makes you worry! At the same time you can start to study and learn more about yourself and how to handle these emotions, you have one of those rare opportunities to develop yourself into a higher being!
This should be your next project ?The choice of evolution over perfection, or the choice of personal growth through relationship?, Instead of a fantasising, where everything falls into place perfectly and is taken care of without effort.
Our experience is naturally affected by external factors and cycles, the ups and downs of the times, you need to be matured in this department and the bad news is, there is no other way to learn from, but the deep sadness, trust me?. You get burned into ashes, but rising up like phoenix later in better (self), it happens to all of us, ?happened to me several times, still happening and it will happen again as long as I live?.
Don?t worry lady if things dose not fit in the way you wish, it is life and you MUST accept it!
You have no other choice?.no one has ever evaded the inevitable..!
Just for the sake of better understanding your Virgo BF check some reading stuff on this post
?Are Virgo's misunderstood, or worth being understanded? page 3 might be useful for you.
?Are Virgo's misunderstood, or worth being understanded? page 3 might be useful for you.
Thank you Qbone,
I can be so sensible and realistic, but when it comes to love i do turn into this idealistic romantic - maybe that is why it feels so bad when things don't go the way you would've liked....and i wonder if he ever did care for me, cause now it feels like there's such a big distance between us...one that's empty of all the wonderful and funny moments we shared. I keep your words close to my heart and keep reminding myself of it. I'm seeing him tommorrow again, at work,....maybe this is exactly what he was afraid of....things don't work out between us and we still had to work together so closely. I don't want to go about things as if he is a stranger/aquaintance....but then again, i don't know if he might prefer that....should i still try to remain friends to some point at work....maybe just treat him like any of the other guys i work with (all of whom I joke and have a laugh with - I'm the only woman on my department, the rest are all men)
Thank you Qbone - i think i will remember you even when i go home (South Africa - that's where my name (Safri) comes from) 🙂
Safri...
I was several time is South Africa before....(job related) you have a damn nice country no wonder you are so emotional? everyone lives there and experiencing those natural freedom and beauty get emotional?!
Anyways..!
What I have discovered in my wandering in this life time is, love and being in love (as long as it is under control) is great, but when ?love thing? get out of hand, it darken the soul and rusting it, and worse? transform you to something that you are NOT.
It?s simple explanation that why we get sad and experiencing these difficulties ?we mostly miss our ??old-self?? than our partner and outcome of the fuzzy relations ship? this by itself has a lot of explanations.. Perhaps sometimes later we can discuss it.
Right now.. You have to find ?your old-self? no matter what! And get back to the state before you met your BF, and develop yourself from that point! It?s not a difficult task, give yourself some space and piece of concentrations, you?ll be on the road in no time!
You?ll better hurry to do this, before a feeling of emptiness grabs you!
BE YOURSELF AGAIN! And try to enjoy the moments! But this time ?think? before ?act?, value your freedom and independency before you share your life and feelings with anyone ?even with your BF?.
I was several time is South Africa before....(job related) you have a damn nice country no wonder you are so emotional? everyone lives there and experiencing those natural freedom and beauty get emotional?!
Anyways..!
What I have discovered in my wandering in this life time is, love and being in love (as long as it is under control) is great, but when ?love thing? get out of hand, it darken the soul and rusting it, and worse? transform you to something that you are NOT.
It?s simple explanation that why we get sad and experiencing these difficulties ?we mostly miss our ??old-self?? than our partner and outcome of the fuzzy relations ship? this by itself has a lot of explanations.. Perhaps sometimes later we can discuss it.
Right now.. You have to find ?your old-self? no matter what! And get back to the state before you met your BF, and develop yourself from that point! It?s not a difficult task, give yourself some space and piece of concentrations, you?ll be on the road in no time!
You?ll better hurry to do this, before a feeling of emptiness grabs you!
BE YOURSELF AGAIN! And try to enjoy the moments! But this time ?think? before ?act?, value your freedom and independency before you share your life and feelings with anyone ?even with your BF?.
I know, Qbone....you can never be truly happy in a relationship if you were never truly happy just with yourself. And, I'd like to think, I have always been happy with that....and that i've never "needed" someone to be happy, but still, you miss the sharing and closeness that comes with being in a relationship....to know that you are missed and needed at times....that you are important to someone other than friends and family....to look at that person and him/her look at you and without speaking a single word you share a million thoughts....to have that familiarity with someone that you have with no-one else.....i can go on for ages! But i think, this is probably my biggest obstacle to overcome....i keep thinking about what i'm missing, and not looking to the future and realising that things happen with a purpose...one i may not be able to see or understand now, but that will make sense one day....and not to want to rush forward to that time. Oh, sometimes i wish i wasn't so emotional and caught up in the whole romance thing...people say that that is a problem where virgos are concerned...the fact that they are not so much involved with all of that, but i think maybe that that is a blessing....
Safri
I don?t know about other Virgo?s but I share the same feeling as you?ve described above, all of it and I understand and feel every word of it!
The difference is as I have mentioned couple of post above ?Love is ultimately about dissolving boundaries, but not at your personal expense?.
Right now you?re experiencing this which makes you ?needy? to other people?s mind that think differently! It is not about star signs.. a Virgos can be ?neediest? of all in this universe ?they don?t admit it thou?.
We all seek the attentions, some with sweet talks, some with flirting, some with cold logics etc? as long as we presents our ideas means we seek some response, same goes for person to person and intimate talks to fill up our batteries (call it the courage) to continue the joy!.
Important is, the realisation of everything are subject to change, things like today wont be the same tomorrow and if you are still inebriated by yesterday joy, then you start suffering because everything is different than the yesterday ?even between loving partners?.
Other important thing is, love is like ?narcotic? and experience the warmth of it makes us addicted badly and we want to get more and more of it, up to the point that makes us ?senseless? and when there is no more to get ?.. well?. You know the rest (this is happening to you right now).
If you wanted to enjoy the love, you need to be in charge and control it, or else it runs around and doing mischief and makes you feel silly/paranoid? etc.
Stay in charge and don?t let this ?love thing? taking control of you and your personal life, you can not control the other people?s feelings no matter how hard you try, but you can control and limit yourself and your sensualities.
Try to see yourself in different perspectives, this is what painters and art people do to create something beautiful, so if your love life is beautiful, then you need to step back and see it from different perspective and eventually change and tailor it after your taste.
Go on lady?you?re not loosing anything by doing this?!
I don?t know about other Virgo?s but I share the same feeling as you?ve described above, all of it and I understand and feel every word of it!
The difference is as I have mentioned couple of post above ?Love is ultimately about dissolving boundaries, but not at your personal expense?.
Right now you?re experiencing this which makes you ?needy? to other people?s mind that think differently! It is not about star signs.. a Virgos can be ?neediest? of all in this universe ?they don?t admit it thou?.
We all seek the attentions, some with sweet talks, some with flirting, some with cold logics etc? as long as we presents our ideas means we seek some response, same goes for person to person and intimate talks to fill up our batteries (call it the courage) to continue the joy!.
Important is, the realisation of everything are subject to change, things like today wont be the same tomorrow and if you are still inebriated by yesterday joy, then you start suffering because everything is different than the yesterday ?even between loving partners?.
Other important thing is, love is like ?narcotic? and experience the warmth of it makes us addicted badly and we want to get more and more of it, up to the point that makes us ?senseless? and when there is no more to get ?.. well?. You know the rest (this is happening to you right now).
If you wanted to enjoy the love, you need to be in charge and control it, or else it runs around and doing mischief and makes you feel silly/paranoid? etc.
Stay in charge and don?t let this ?love thing? taking control of you and your personal life, you can not control the other people?s feelings no matter how hard you try, but you can control and limit yourself and your sensualities.
Try to see yourself in different perspectives, this is what painters and art people do to create something beautiful, so if your love life is beautiful, then you need to step back and see it from different perspective and eventually change and tailor it after your taste.
Go on lady?you?re not loosing anything by doing this?!
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Have any of you read this article? It's really quite entertaining. By the way, this is just for entertainment purposes only!<BR> <BR> A Virgo man will be home in time for dinner, help you balance the cheque book, and help raise the children. Whether he'
Just wanted to say a quick hi, hope all is well at your end.... how is your new job coming along. Sad to hear about your virgo friend... Virgo's too have dilema's :)<BR> <BR> Keep in touch,<BR> <BR> take care<BR> Reka
Hello, I am an Aries female who has been friends with a Virgo male for about 3 years (close friends for the last year). <BR> <BR> I am helplessly infatuated with him- and we are both single. I have expressed my feelings for him on several occassions, an
Hey there dear one...I have a question for you and hopefully you won't mind sharing your unbiased thoughts with me.<BR> <BR> I have a friend (male cappy) who I have known for about 6 yrs. He had a serious girlfriend but that was NOT a good relationship...
Hello!!! Any virgo's out there. I really need some help. I put up a message about a coworker(the virgo. Today is not a really good day. I do every thing I can to avoid this man, so to not cause any problems. But, it does not work. hE WILL FIND ME. An
Is it me or are Virgos the nicest sign in the zodiac?
hello everyone, good day to all<BR> <BR> can anyone of u helpful folks, get me out of this frustrating situation with my virgo friend, cos i think i am really stuck and i don't know where to go from here.<BR> <BR> we've been friends for 3 years and have b
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Hello everyone.<BR> <BR> Just looking for a little insight. I'm curious as to the dynamic between Pisces and Virgos in relationships. Specifically Virgo men with Pisces women. There's a polarity there, so I'm finding that opposites do indeed attract.
This is the first time i've posted anything on here, although I have visited the site often, trying to crack the nut that is virgo! (and how hard it is indeed). I, too, am on the lookout for some advice, although, if I am really honest with myself, I probably now kinda what my options are. However, the advice on here does seem to be heartfelt and honest so i'd like to hear it.
I am a taurus female (27) and the object of my affection is a virgo male (25). We've worked together for about 2 and a half years now, of which both of us have been in a relationship for most of it. I broke up with my partner about 6 months ago and his g/f broke up with him about 5 months ago. He felt really hurt afterwards, although he knew they weren't going anywhere (he wanted to make future plans and she had no intentions of settling just yet). We've always been good friends (talked about our relationships etc.), but have become quite close after our break-ups. Needless to say, I have fallen head over heels in love with him - I know he likes me, I just don't know what he wants or expects to happen. Our relationship have gone from friends (we c each other every day at work, so often have time to chat and have a laugh, txting occasionally) to really good friends (trying to spend more time at work together, txting much more often) to i don't know really what. Our txts used to b only friendly teasing (we both enjoy a good laugh and for some reason he always txts me when he knows I'm going out that nite and then till i basically get home or say goodnite!) and then, about 2 months ago, he started putting a kiss at the end - didn't know what to make of it, as he only put it when we were txting each other goodnite or txting when we were both out at w/e, so jokingly one day i put a kiss and said in brackets: or should i only put this when i'm tipsy!. He replied: u can put it whenever u want!. He also has done things like: when him and his friends went to Barcelona for one of their birthdays - he wrote my name in the sand and send it to me (no words, just the picture). We don't c each other over w/e (except when working), cause he lives about 20 miles away in another village. However, one friday, about a month ago I went to this club with some girls from work- he knew I was going and told me him and a friend mite be coming, but on the friday said he can't promise anything (he didn't want to go if he's ex went - told me to txt him if she was going or not). She didn't come - i txt him - he said he wouldn't be able to make it afterall and to have a good time. I was dissapointed and told him so - he said it was a shame he couldn't come. And then, out of the blue, he was there! Put his arms around me from behind (to surprise me) and i was so glad i gave him a huge hug (we have not had any real physical contact till then). It was great - we danced holding each other all nite - it felt soooo good - he told me he turned up specially for me - we didn't say much else. His friend told me though that we should be getting together, that on the barcelona trip he couldn't talk about anything but me and when i asked y he hasn't said anything to ME his friend simply said because he is so shy. We didn't kiss or anything that nite. Come the Monday i asked (txted) him if there was something he mite want to chat about - he txted me saying: no, nothing he can think of, do i want to talk about something? - I was so gobsmacked and felt a bit embarassed and just said I thought I wanted to until i got his txt, but must've been mistaken. That nite in a txt he said he wasn't good with words. We've been like usual since then - lauging, joking, looking at each other and smiling, txting. he asks often if I am going to that club (where we both were) again as if he would like us to go out like that again.
Problem is, being a taurus, I can't hide my feelings - he must know how i feel by the things i do and txt - i'd txt (am slightly shy too and find t