PISCES WOMAN & VIRGO MAN------>PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!

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luvlypisces
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ive been with a virgo man for 4 years and we broke up in september and he decided he wanted to work things out in november so he moved back n with me..but it still seems as if he is still on the same bs. is this the way virgo men are?? do they usually come back after a breakup?? does he even care?? its been 4 years and he has yet to say i love u, his excuse is he shows it. me being a pisces girl, i feel as if he's not showing it, i need to hear it. am i expecting too much from him as a virgo man??

about a year ago, he cheated on me and had a baby. when i found out he wasnt remorseful or apologetic, and because of this i resent him and the baby. he brings the baby around me and expects me to care for and love it but i cant. the baby looks nothing like him and he doesnt want to get a dna test,when i try to talk to him about it he doesnt want to. he wants to act as if the baby just popped out of thin air, like he didnt create it with someone else. i am torn about this because i refuse to accept this child until there is some closure about it between us. it sucks because we have no kids together and to me as a pisces a child is created betwn 2 ppl that love each other but to him as a virgo it was nothing; a slip up.

i dont understand him at all!!! does he love me?? does he even care?? i feel like mayb he does because he decided to come back, but mayb it was to benefit him and not us. i just dont know!! PLEASE HELP!!!!!!
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The answers you seek cannot be found here honey, but within yourself. Ask yourself why you allowed the relationship to go on as long as it did with a man who couldnt tell you he loved you. Because clearly it matters to you.(Im a Pisces too and that shit matters!) As if that weren't enough, he cheats on you and fathers a child w/ someone else? And you let him come back? And you haven't seen any remorse or change in him at all?

What is it about YOU that would allow someone to treat you this way? You have to know that you are worth so much more. This has nothing to do w/ his sign. I dated a Virgo for 5 years and he told me he loved me often, showed it, and never cheated. Your Virgo is a dud. Its time to move on.
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Posted by luvlypisces

to me as a pisces a child is created betwn 2 ppl that love each other




Yes I agree, "as a pisces". Are you serious? A child is created between two people that fuck each other & don't use protection. You can't be that naive boo-boo.

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does he love me?? does he even care??
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No. He doesn't. After four years, smh. You obviously don't mean much if he had a baby on you. If he had any regard for the relationship or your feelings, he wouldn't have disrepected you in such a manner. He wasn't even contrite about what he did. Why are you still with him again? You don't have any children with him, & you don't have any obligation to him. Get some self-respect & love. He treats you like this because you allow it & because you do, he won't respect you for it. You should just end it.
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This is why I can't w/Pisces. The sign scares me with its way of thinking. Just a lot of cotton candy sayings, and sad dreams.

I think you should speak to someone, luvly. Not a someone on a forum, but a someone with a medical degree.

And because I know Pisces are too quick to physically harm themselves when depressed, please don't do something silly over someone who obviously does not love you the way you are looking for.

Seriously, please make an appt. to speak to someone, because you are not processing this well.

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Posted by CLCNY30
This is why I can't w/Pisces. The sign scares me with its way of thinking. Just a lot of cotton candy sayings, and sad dreams.

I think you should speak to someone, luvly. Not a someone on a forum, but a someone with a medical degree.

And because I know Pisces are too quick to physically harm themselves when depressed, please don't do something silly over someone who obviously does not love you the way you are looking for.

Seriously, please make an appt. to speak to someone, because you are not processing this well.



WTF? You cant judge the entire sign that way. I am a Pisces and I dont think like this girl, never have. And would NEVER harm myself. You're buggin.
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Posted by Dreamer02
Posted by CLCNY30
This is why I can't w/Pisces. The sign scares me with its way of thinking. Just a lot of cotton candy sayings, and sad dreams.

I think you should speak to someone, luvly. Not a someone on a forum, but a someone with a medical degree.

And because I know Pisces are too quick to physically harm themselves when depressed, please don't do something silly over someone who obviously does not love you the way you are looking for.

Seriously, please make an appt. to speak to someone, because you are not processing this well.



WTF? You cant judge the entire sign that way. I am a Pisces and I dont think like this girl, never have. And would NEVER harm myself. You're buggin.
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Please make no mistake that I do not, in any way/shape/form, know every Pisces on the face of the Earth. Therefore, my comment was based on the Pisces I've met and have known about. Those Pisces were either overly ecstatic or just plain suicidal. They operated in extremes--and in the OP's case, the fact that she would stay with someone who was abusing me gave me concern that she could dip into that negative extreme and harm herself. Relax. Have you seen what most of the people who come here say about Virgos, as a whole? It's universal--but, of course, they can only refer to the bunch from the sign they've MET and nothing more. When I call you out, by name, then I can totally understand you jumping out at me like that. Until then, what gives? Your sign is just a part of who you are, it does not define everything about you. You know that, right?
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What gives is that your broad generalization kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't really take it personally, but I just think its silly when people make blanket statements/judgments/generalizations about any particular group of people. You have clarified your point. No offense taken.

Its funny because I know quite a few Pisces myself and they dont fit into any one mold, neither overly ecstatic OR suicidal. Usually a good mix of both 😉 jk
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Posted by Dreamer02
What gives is that your broad generalization kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't really take it personally, but I just think its silly when people make blanket statements/judgments/generalizations about any particular group of people. You have clarified your point. No offense taken.

Its funny because I know quite a few Pisces myself and they dont fit into any one mold, neither overly ecstatic OR suicidal. Usually a good mix of both 😉 jk



In all honesty, I haven't had lasting positive encounters with people born under the sign of Pisces. I just figured the old adage of Virgo/Pisces = oil/water I'd heard can happen was true for me. Then I started to talk to people of other signs--even other Pisces, who also had the same negative experiences with the sign (the absolute worst were Pisces/Pisces couples...omg, the bloodshed. It's unbeleivable...you'd think that would work out perfectly...)

I hate grouped generalizations as well, but when someone says they're not fond of Virgos (so long as they're not attackign us or cursing us out) I try to find out what it is they're really aiming at; there will always be people cough*p-angel*cough who always have negative things to say about the sign, speaking about Virgo as a whole, and not bothering to distinguish the difference between those of the sign itself, and those who they've EXPERIENCED from the sign, but there are usually MORE people who will readily admit that, of course, they can only comment on what they've encountered from those of a specific sign--and they mean no malice to the others.

Trust me when I say I wish I could take the p-angel route and shake my fist at the whole sign of Pisces, because I've really seen/heard enough from the ones I've met to ensure I will never get involved in a relationship, or even a close friendship with one again--if I can help it, but of course there must be Pisces out there who aren't a slave to the sign's negative traits. I know this, because if there weren't Pisces who truly do make this world a better place to live in, the rest of us signs would have just killed every single one of you fish off already, no? 😛

Lol, but seriously--people will group. It's habit. A bad habit, but finding out the underlying meaning of someone's words when they group is very important. Most don't mean any harm, and are just speaking out of personal frustrati
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I agree, 1urbanic--I'll usually try to find out where someone's hurt words over our sign (if they're generalizing) is coming from. Most times, it's just their painful experiences with someone of the sign, and in that case I'll try my best to assure them that they've met one of our bad apples, and we're not all like that. Attacking them for grouping us would only serve to kind of prove them right, so I try to avoid doing that. But if they come here attacking first, I don't even bother. Like I said, I'm not a fan of Pisces, due to the bad apples from the sign I've run into, but I can't speak about all the people of the sign as a whole--even if I wanted to, but it's hard to explain that to a Pisces who might think I'm trying to.

People say Virgos are unemotional, because they've experienced the cold shoulder from one or a few, and I hate to tell them the truth, but it's usually that the Virgo(s) they're dealing with either have serious personal issues they're not dealing with properly, and/or the Virgo just doesn't care for them. I've never met a Virgo that was cold, but then again I'm biased as I can read their body language and eyes due to the fact that I can mimic those actions sometimes, and I know I mean no harm. If someone's coming here to claim "Virgos are unemotional", I will read what they have to write after that, and as long as it's not an attack, I'll chime in and try to explain that it's a front, and we're really quite sensitive. If anything, I think Virgos are overemotional, but a sign looking for us to deliver singing telegrams and fill rooms with billions of bouquets of flowers, or hire someone to skywrite our love will be disappointed, as we're not big on showing it in bold ways. The more we love you, however, the bolder we'll get.

Bottomline, yeah--the generalizations are usually just a way of showing hurt and pain over what someone of a certain sign put you through, but it's usually not meant to attack the sign.
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*cut off*

out of personal frustrations with their dealings of a certain sign.

OP, I hope you reach out to dreamer if you return (if she's okay with that).



wow to the big text preceding this. +billion credits!

so many people come here out of frustrations /depressed/jilted/annoyed/ hurt badly by said sign.

many times, i think they have a hard time 'communicating' the right words. and that lack of skill can make or brake /hurt someone in return. 'cause people will generally 'think' that they're being targeted as a whole.

communication is very important but people seem to disregard that, and the fact that not everyone is a mindreader. and even if someone is very intuitive - that message can still be fuzzy/inaccurate.
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I know a few Pisces and they are all very cool women, albeit a bit emotional. I love that we are such dreamers! There was a time when I was a slave to my emotions, but I have spent alot of time getting a handle on that, and not living in my head and worrying about what other people think. Thats the key for a Pisces. Im also a Pisces who has little to no water in my chart, so maybe Im different. And Im a lefty. Apparently, left handed Pisces are true weirdlings. LOL
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Posted by luvlypisces

about a year ago, he cheated on me and had a baby. when i found out he wasnt remorseful or apologetic, and because of this i resent him and the baby. he brings the baby around me and expects me to care for and love it but i cant. the baby looks nothing like him and he doesnt want to get a dna test,when i try to talk to him about it he doesnt want to. he wants to act as if the baby just popped out of thin air, like he didnt create it with someone else. i am torn about this because i refuse to accept this child until there is some closure about it between us. it sucks because we have no kids together and to me as a pisces a child is created betwn 2 ppl that love each other but to him as a virgo it was nothing; a slip up.

i dont understand him at all!!! does he love me?? does he even care?? i feel like mayb he does because he decided to come back, but mayb it was to benefit him and not us. i just dont know!! PLEASE HELP!!!!!!



Why are you with him? When you allowed him to move back what exactly was he saying or promising would change or did you allow him back with no real talk about your expectations?

He doesn't say he loves you, he doesn't show he loves you. No love then why are you with him?
He is unapologetic for cheating on you which resulted in the birth of a baby which resulted in you resenting him.
He throw the baby up in your face, he expect you to play the caring loving mom and yet you are still resentful
He created a baby while in a relationship with you, didn't tell you about it, you had to find out about it and you can't accept this child which is understandable, you haven't had time to really adjust nor process any of this and he hasn't been very helpful but appears to be rubbing salt in your wounds as if he's resentful towards you.

I would say no he doesn't love you, no he doesn't care, he only came back for his own selfish reasons which has nothing to do with you, most likely he came back b/c he knew you'd take him back without question, he could run all over you and your emotions with no consequences and he's pretty much doing that.

Doesn't appear you care about yourself, it's all about him and he came back solely b/c you make it all about him and you'd let him back in without fail/question.

Do we really have to tell you to care about yourself and dump him?
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This is not funny for those who want to laugh or be rude to her over this awful situation that she is allowing to poison her life. My advice to you sweetie is to get rid of him so that you can find yourself. You already know what you need to do so why arent you doing it yet? What are you waiting for? The only reason he came back is because he sees you as weak and knows you will put up with his B/S. If I were you i would do him a great favor, pack his stuff up and leave it at the front door with a note saying goodbye. Dont give him a chance to feed you his empty apologies or stories that are not going to make your life better at all! Then when you are done throwing him out, love yourself! Seriously, love is blind sometimes but i guarantee the minute you get rid of that pest, your life will take a turn for the better! You can do better than him. Also, he brought a baby into the situation, which means he doesnt use condoms when he sleeps with other women. Thank God he only brought home a baby and not an STD that you cannot get rid of. He has no self respect and definitely none for you. It may take you some time to let all this go, but you can do it! I will pray for you hun. Drop that Zero now!
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Posted by LadyLionness

This is not funny for those who want to laugh or be rude to her over this awful situation that she is allowing to poison her life.







Yeah, it is .. I'll tell you what Leo .. you feel the way you do, and attempt to control how you feel, and everyone else will feel the way they do, and if control is needed that is on them.


Because it is hilarious ... funny that a person is that fucking stupid.
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Posted by LadyLionness

My advice to you sweetie is to get rid of him so that you can find yourself.







You know what else is fucking stupid?

You ... you are answering a question she never asked, and even with your "sweetie" you inserted for purposes of gaining her to your side to listen to the words you think are wise .. you never answered her question.

She isn't asking what to do, whether she should leave him, or how should she proceed in her life.

She's asking how to make him care about her.


In your stupidity, sweetie lol, and in you scolding people because they actually comprehended what she was asking, sweetie .... you showed yourself.

Now you're laughable because you actually thought she was trying to help herself.
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Posted by LadyLionness
This is not funny for those who want to laugh or be rude to her



Laughing? Rude? If what I said was rude, OH WELL. Nobody told her to come on a public forum & make her business known to everyone & when doing so, you're asking for it, whether it's positive or negative comments, FOH. I didn't laugh but since you insist...ROTFL!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

That better? 🙂