The Hermit

isolationism and alienation

(why people won't leave you alone when you just wanna introvert that it's almost a meme now)

e.g.

michael jackson- it's claimed that he died a lonely death (which i think is fitting after having lived a life of isolation and withdrawal)

LVP- lives In a giant pink mansion at the edge of a cliff, unwittingly alienates herself from the cast by focusing on her life and now left RHOBH to focus on her own show

beyonce- she doesn't follow anybody on IG, keeps mum about her personal life (rarely steps out in expressing her opinions when it comes to controversial shit).

keanu reeves- DUH

freddie mercury- for years talked about his loneliness in interviews and even wrote songs about it, talked about not knowing who to trust and 'not belonging to anyone.'

mother teresa- 'the most terrible poverty is loneliness, and the feeling of being unloved.'; often felt alone and abandoned by god; "In the developed countries there is a poverty of intimacy, a poverty of spirit, of loneliness, of lack, of love. There is no greater sickness in the world today than that one."

leonard cohen- "my reputation as a ladies' man was a joke that caused me to laugh bitterly through the ten thousand nights I spent alone."

greta garbo- "I am almost always alone and talk to myself. I drive to the beach and take walks and that's always marvellous. But that's it...", she wrote on November 14 1939, referring to her life in Beverly Hills.

***upon missing scandinavia:

"The last few days here have been grey and I have been thinking a lot about Tistad. About summers there when it rains and that marvellous melancholy enfolds us..."

karl lagerfeld- the mysterious, lonely king of fashion always seen wearing dark sunglasses: "I like to watch people, but I don't like them to watch me."

florence welch- got “Always Lonely” TATTOOED in blocky print on her left arm

mickey rourke- "Sometimes, when a man is alone, that's all you got is your dog."

paulo coelho-'Loneliness, when accepted, becomes a gift that will lead us to find a purpose in life.'

mary shelley- 'Frankenstein' examines two phenomena of human nature, scientific curiosity and loneliness

jose luis borges-"'A writer needs loneliness, and he gets his share of it. He needs love, and he gets shared and also unshared love. He needs friendship. In fact, he needs the universe. To be a writer is, in a sense, to be a day-dreamer - to be living a kind of double life."

i can go on and on but i'm at work right now and not even supposed to be here

cardinals always trying to socialize and i'm getting annoyed

Posted by PinsNNeedles

Look, bottom line: I'm not putting my pants back on when I get home.

you ever get this feeling in life that people won't get off your back?

people mentioning virgos nag but that's not always true since we always GHOST

We kinda do a lot that to ourselves tho. It's a double edge sword to be a Virgo imo.

Posted by Phantom_Dangus

Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.

some of them but not all.

i think it's a virgo tendency to want to be alone and that the more we isolate/alienate ourselves, the more people talk about us, speculate and build a lore around who we are, sometimes often romanticizing it or making us out to be either disturbed or tragic figures.

know what really disturbs me? always the socials.

i'm still annoyed at the fact that i left my stem cell job coz of a bunch of socials who can't leave me alone. thank god there's only 16 people in my new insurance job. but my birthday is coming up soon and they're hinting how they want to spend time with me and looks like i'm going to make an excuse about having endless dinners i have to attend with family and friends.

some of my other jobs also involved me avoiding 'deeper connections.' why do i have to be forced to 'know' anybody anyway?

this must be why i can't make clay human faces now that i think about it.

i hate virgo season when i'm employed.

Why do you feeling like you're being forced to do anything? Nobody is forcing you except you thinking you have to be a certain way...you dont. You wanna be a hermit for a while...be a hermit. If people don't like it...fuck em. We aren't obligated to be a service of people just because we're a virgo...we have to set boundaries for ourselves too.

Posted by PinsNNeedles

jose luis borges-"'A writer needs loneliness, and he gets his share of it. He needs love, and he gets shared and also unshared love. He needs friendship. In fact, he needs the universe. To be a writer is, in a sense, to be a day-dreamer - to be living a kind of double life.

paulo coelho-'Loneliness, when accepted, becomes a gift that will lead us to find a purpose in life.'



I'm really digging these two quotes. I can relate. You want to create, you need to have space to play. Making a sacrifice of social activities to execute these goals. Gotta work around that daily life and weave in those times for play - the "double life". Accept the loneliness and eventually it shows a path for you. Everything sounds clearer when it's silent.

I'm spoiled AF about having alone time.

i tried to get chummy with my virgo driver one time but that's only coz i feel bad for sometimes oversleeping and making him wait for me. so i thought i'd do something uncomfortable for a change to show i care or some shit like that.

i asked more about his personal life but his answers were very direct to the point and he kept everything professional and in my mind i thought: "know what fuck this it's better to just have a detached relationship!" ....so that i can criticize him later on if he fails to fulfill his duties and he can criticize me if i become an abusive employer.

and the fact that i've shared way too much online makes me want to make another fake troll account, this time of a 60 year old man who may have dementia but somehow has stonecutting as a hobby, all my traits, my personality just to ghost on people online.

the isolationism is almost militant.

even virgo dictators are known for their literal militant isolationism.

Posted by PinsNNeedles

jose luis borges-"'A writer needs loneliness, and he gets his share of it. He needs love, and he gets shared and also unshared love. He needs friendship. In fact, he needs the universe. To be a writer is, in a sense, to be a day-dreamer - to be living a kind of double life.

paulo coelho-'Loneliness, when accepted, becomes a gift that will lead us to find a purpose in life.'



I'm really digging these two quotes. I can relate. You want to create, you need to have space to play. Making a sacrifice of social activities to execute these goals. Gotta work around that daily life and weave in those times for play - the "double life". Accept the loneliness and eventually it shows a path for you. Everything sounds clearer when it's silent.

I'm spoiled AF about having alone time.

I liked those two quotes the best as well - especially Coelho

There's only so much alone time one can have that is actually healthy. Too much of it gets you in a really weird head space, could even give you mental health issues, and when you're used to tons of alone time, it gets harder to feel out how much alone time is too much for you. It's important to stay in touch with your own (physical/mental) needs rather than blindly following some (false) self-created belief (aka "I need to be alone all the time")

We also have excess of nervous energy which needs healthy outlets, like writing alright but deep down we yearn to be listened to and when we want it we can be pretty awesome communicators. I'm sure I'm not the only Virgo who feels pretty good when communicating his own needs (which is a challenge for Virgos)

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Why do you feeling like you're being forced to do anything? Nobody is forcing you except you thinking you have to be a certain way...you dont. You wanna be a hermit for a while...be a hermit. If people don't like it...fuck em. We aren't obligated to be a service of people just because we're a virgo...we have to set boundaries for ourselves too.

i feel like in some matters socially, there's no choice like the other day i was forced to go into this family reunion where one of my relatives was said to be 'nearing death' (which is not the case coz she just has trouble with one foot) or some other shit that managed to guilt trip me from my isolation or make me feel as if i'm 'obligated' to go out of my way. drained 4 hours of my life not gonna lie.

and now we're having this stupid company thing where we're supposed to 'build morale' by spending a weekend in some resort. of course i'm the only one not going coz i don't know any of these people in a 'deep' level coz i never cared to 'know anybody.' i got here TO DO MY JOB and leave. i'm always struggling with this shit coz i have my Dejanira in the 3rd where people build a lore for me but i wanna build my OWN lore.

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

Posted by LostinmyMind11

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

Our martyr side comes out mostly in our teens and 20's, it's really exhausting for others.

Till we learn to communicate our needs, and actually find out most people respond positively to just plain honesty.

It's ok not to want to be social all the time, but it's also as important to be able to communicate that.

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Why do you feeling like you're being forced to do anything? Nobody is forcing you except you thinking you have to be a certain way...you dont. You wanna be a hermit for a while...be a hermit. If people don't like it...fuck em. We aren't obligated to be a service of people just because we're a virgo...we have to set boundaries for ourselves too.

i feel like in some matters socially, there's no choice like the other day i was forced to go into this family reunion where one of my relatives was said to be 'nearing death' (which is not the case coz she just has trouble with one foot) or some other shit that managed to guilt trip me from my isolation or make me feel as if i'm 'obligated' to go out of my way. drained 4 hours of my life not gonna lie.

and now we're having this stupid company thing where we're supposed to 'build morale' by spending a weekend in some resort. of course i'm the only one not going coz i don't any of these people in a 'deep' level coz i never cared to 'know anybody.' i got here TO DO MY JOB and leave. i'm always struggling with this shit coz i have my Dejanira in the 3rd where people build a lore for me but i wanna build my OWN lore.

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Why did you let it drain 4 hrs...you could have went, said whatever or showed your presence and then left...you are the only one that really drained your own time there.

As for the company thing...well we all have to do shit we don't wanna do...doesn't mean you have to spend every waking moment with your co workers ...I'm sure majority don't want to go either but sometimes it is what it is and you just have to roll with it.

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

Our martyr side comes out mostly in our teens and 20's, it's really exhausting for others.

Till we learn to communicate our needs, and actually find out most people respond positively to just plain honesty.

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I guess I forget what's it's like growing up...not to say I don't still have my moments but def not even close to how it was when younger

Posted by MissKrabs

If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

I've tried that, it is soooo exhausting. At some point you won't even be able to remember which "version" of the truth you told to whom. Who can even remember all that much?

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Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by Phantom_Dangus

Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.

some of them but not all.

i think it's a virgo tendency to want to be alone and that the more we isolate/alienate ourselves, the more people talk about us, speculate and build a lore around who we are, sometimes often romanticizing it or making us out to be either disturbed or tragic figures.

know what really disturbs me? always the socials.

i'm still annoyed at the fact that i left my stem cell job coz of a bunch of socials who can't leave me alone. thank god there's only 16 people in my new insurance job. but my birthday is coming up soon and they're hinting how they want to spend time with me and looks like i'm going to make an excuse about having endless dinners i have to attend with family and friends.

some of my other jobs also involved me avoiding 'deeper connections.' why do i have to be forced to 'know' anybody anyway?

this must be why i can't make clay human faces now that i think about it.

i hate virgo season when i'm employed.

Do you have mercury retrograde?

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makes sense but idk maybe.

Posted by LostinmyMind11

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

Is this a complaint thread or an acknowledgement thread? Cause I agree that Virgos do this to themselves. They take their alone time and wonder where people went when they decide to come back. How are you as Virgos so lonely, when you are creating the isolation. If this is what you want you shouldn't be lonely at all, you should be comforted in the space you are creating for yourselves.

Me as a Sag, is never lonely, except for when I look for affection or attention from a person who I miss or want and it's not given.

But if I'm taking space for myself, I am selfish and doing what I want to do, so loneliness never crosses my mind.

Posted by MissKrabs

If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

Posted by saggurl88

Is this a complaint thread or an acknowledgement thread? Cause I agree that Virgos do this to themselves. They take their alone time and wonder where people went when they decide to come back. How are you as Virgos so lonely, when you are creating the isolation. If this is what you want you shouldn't be lonely at all, you should be comforted in the space you are creating for yourselves.

Me as a Sag, is never lonely, except for when I look for affection or attention from a person who I miss or want and it's not given.

But if I'm taking space for myself, I am selfish and doing what I want to do, so loneliness never crosses my mind.

it's a Hermit thread; created by a Virgo - hence we are discussing Virgo Hermitage although people from all signs are capable of being introverts

thank you

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by MissKrabs

If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

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make it a short, but necessary uncomfortable time period - in order to maintain status quo

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

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I mean we all have our moments but all the time? Imo...that goes deeper. and this coming from a fire dominant person haha

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Posted by saggurl88

Is this a complaint thread or an acknowledgement thread? Cause I agree that Virgos do this to themselves. They take their alone time and wonder where people went when they decide to come back. How are you as Virgos so lonely, when you are creating the isolation. If this is what you want you shouldn't be lonely at all, you should be comforted in the space you are creating for yourselves.

Me as a Sag, is never lonely, except for when I look for affection or attention from a person who I miss or want and it's not given.

But if I'm taking space for myself, I am selfish and doing what I want to do, so loneliness never crosses my mind.

it's a Hermit thread; created by a Virgo - hence we are discussing Virgo Hermitage although people from all signs are capable of being introverts

thank you

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I know but I asked the question of whether it was a complaint or acknowledgement. I'm aware of the OP's sign and her context, as well as the forum the post was made in. But all these examples of being lonely with no one there is confusing. So I wasn't sure if the OP was bragging or if it was an issue.

So my question was still a valid one that has gone unanswered.

And you're welcome.

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by tctaap

Posted by LostinmyMind11

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

I mean we all have our moments but all the time? Imo...that goes deeper. and this coming from a fire dominant person haha

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oh its deep - that much I knew from the beginning - why ? perhaps because I'm older and therefore wiser than she is - in life - even though she insists she knows everything because she's got a masters degree lol

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by MissKrabs

If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

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People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by MissKrabs

If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.

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my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by tctaap

Posted by saggurl88

Is this a complaint thread or an acknowledgement thread? Cause I agree that Virgos do this to themselves. They take their alone time and wonder where people went when they decide to come back. How are you as Virgos so lonely, when you are creating the isolation. If this is what you want you shouldn't be lonely at all, you should be comforted in the space you are creating for yourselves.

Me as a Sag, is never lonely, except for when I look for affection or attention from a person who I miss or want and it's not given.

But if I'm taking space for myself, I am selfish and doing what I want to do, so loneliness never crosses my mind.

it's a Hermit thread; created by a Virgo - hence we are discussing Virgo Hermitage although people from all signs are capable of being introverts

thank you

I know but I asked the question of whether it was a complaint or acknowledgement. I'm aware of the OP's sign and her context, as well as the forum the post was made in. But all these examples of being lonely with no one there is confusing. So I wasn't sure if the OP was bragging or if it was an issue.

So my question was still a valid one that has gone unanswered.

And you're welcome.

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thank you

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by MissKrabs

If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.

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holy shit that's why i only text 2x a week.

why should i bother people? BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY why should they bother me so much?

i can only go full obnoxious online coz i'm 'decent' in person.

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Posted by saggurl88

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by MissKrabs

If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.

my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos

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I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.

Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

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i love animals like most other virgos (damn now i remember how i was going to make a thread about that).

but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody, my 7th house is EMPTY THANK GOD.

Posted by saggurl88

Is this a complaint thread or an acknowledgement thread? Cause I agree that Virgos do this to themselves. They take their alone time and wonder where people went when they decide to come back. How are you as Virgos so lonely, when you are creating the isolation. If this is what you want you shouldn't be lonely at all, you should be comforted in the space you are creating for yourselves.

Me as a Sag, is never lonely, except for when I look for affection or attention from a person who I miss or want and it's not given.

But if I'm taking space for myself, I am selfish and doing what I want to do, so loneliness never crosses my mind.

love-hate relationship with isolation

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

I mean we all have our moments but all the time? Imo...that goes deeper. and this coming from a fire dominant person haha

oh its deep - that much I knew from the beginning - why ? perhaps because I'm older and therefore wiser than she is - in life - even though she insists she knows everything because she's got a masters degree lol

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Ugh...I hate when people use a piece of paper like its gold and makes them all knowing. You cant master life as much as some want to believe that...its just not possible.

Posted by saggurl88

Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

Lol touché, that was one arrow right on target.

I'm sure if I ever become a dad I'm gonna look at alone time with different eyes than right now.

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Posted by saggurl88

Is this a complaint thread or an acknowledgement thread? Cause I agree that Virgos do this to themselves. They take their alone time and wonder where people went when they decide to come back. How are you as Virgos so lonely, when you are creating the isolation. If this is what you want you shouldn't be lonely at all, you should be comforted in the space you are creating for yourselves.

Me as a Sag, is never lonely, except for when I look for affection or attention from a person who I miss or want and it's not given.

But if I'm taking space for myself, I am selfish and doing what I want to do, so loneliness never crosses my mind.

it's a Hermit thread; created by a Virgo - hence we are discussing Virgo Hermitage although people from all signs are capable of being introverts

thank you

I know but I asked the question of whether it was a complaint or acknowledgement. I'm aware of the OP's sign and her context, as well as the forum the post was made in. But all these examples of being lonely with no one there is confusing. So I wasn't sure if the OP was bragging or if it was an issue.

So my question was still a valid one that has gone unanswered.

And you're welcome.

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it's a whinebrag, similar to the laughcry

my chart is bipolar but really i call it 'balance'

Posted by saggurl88

Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

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no time for y'all, must post

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Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

Lol touché, that was one arrow right on target.

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Honestly, it's a little comforting for me to see. They are doing what they want with their time, and serving their individual needs while also uploading content that let's everyone else in on how Virgos are. I get it. People do what they want to do.

This is why I don't feel the need to reach out at all. But I seriously don't understand why any sign would need space but still need someone to check up on them. Virgos and Aquas are like this and start feeling some type of way when their silence is reciprocated.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Like just come back when you want some company or want to talk and I will be here. Space isn't that big of a deal- Take all that you need.

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Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

Lol touché, that was one arrow right on target.

Honestly, it's a little comforting for me to see. They are doing what they want with their time, and serving their individual needs while also uploading content that let's everyone else in on how Virgos are. I get it. People do what they want to do.

This is why I don't feel the need to reach out at all. But I seriously don't understand why any sign would need space but still need someone to check up on them. Virgos and Aquas are like this and start feeling some type of way when their silence is reciprocated.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Like just come back when you want some company or want to talk and I will be here. Space isn't that big of a deal- Take all that you need.

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i feel a kindred spirit in Aquarius sometimes (that is when they're not trying to be too pompous). and the fact that they won't pry too much into my emotions and situation is well-appreciated. some people will always try to pick on your wounds, try to get a 'lick' on them, wanting and thinking they can help us. some of us don't want it.

there was one time when i didn't even have contact with my Aquarius friend for maybe months or years but i called her up randomly then just started sobbing over the phone. i picked up the phone and just burst out crying haha that must've freaked her out. then i refuse to tell her what happened and i just pretended i didn't just do what i did.

her cooperation in my state of denial and grief i always look back on fondly ❤️

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Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

Lol touché, that was one arrow right on target.

Honestly, it's a little comforting for me to see. They are doing what they want with their time, and serving their individual needs while also uploading content that let's everyone else in on how Virgos are. I get it. People do what they want to do.

This is why I don't feel the need to reach out at all. But I seriously don't understand why any sign would need space but still need someone to check up on them. Virgos and Aquas are like this and start feeling some type of way when their silence is reciprocated.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Like just come back when you want some company or want to talk and I will be here. Space isn't that big of a deal- Take all that you need.

i feel a kindred spirit in Aquarius sometimes (that is when they're not trying to be too pompous). and the fact that they won't pry too much into my emotions and situation is well-appreciated. some people will always try to pick on your wounds, try to get a 'lick' on them, wanting and thinking they can help us. some of us don't want it.

there was one time when i didn't even have contact with my Aquarius friend one time but i called her up randomly then just started sobbing over the phone. i picked up the phone and just burst out crying haha that must've freaked her out. then i refuse to tell her what happened and i just pretended i didn't just do what i did.

her cooperation i always look back on fondly ❤️

i was gonna comment earlier about how i nearly entirely resonate w/ what you are saying. i was gonna attribute it to the aqua/11th/uranus in my chart.

i isolate & it can get very extreme. i wont talk to anyone, see anyone, leave the house. will go days w/ out uttering a word from my own mouth. & i can be perfectly content doing this for months. i can entertain myself & my home is the busiest place for me.

i identify as a hermit, often.

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i called her coz i know she won't try to dive into my feelings. and it's gonna be humiliating for me to lose my shit so i chose someone who'd let me keep my dignity and pretend she didn't just witness my lapse in control. the fact that she's so usually detached made me feel she's a stranger and i can make mistakes around strangers.

there should be a business like that.

crying randomly into a stranger without saying anything nor explaining yourself and them just sitting there, existing.

nobody talks about anything and we all go home.

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You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

I mean we all have our moments but all the time? Imo...that goes deeper. and this coming from a fire dominant person haha

oh its deep - that much I knew from the beginning - why ? perhaps because I'm older and therefore wiser than she is - in life - even though she insists she knows everything because she's got a masters degree lol

Ugh...I hate when people use a piece of paper like its gold and makes them all knowing. You cant master life as much as some want to believe that...its just not possible.

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exactly - I mentioned something jokingly as she and my son were talking about passing something down and called her the DNA Queen because she has her Masters in Genetics and she said seriously "you can refer to me as Doctor ______" and I said I prefer DNA Queen - she didn't like that I guess but I'm a Taurus and I didn't give a fuck because it wasn't meant to be mean or anything so fuck her and her stupid way of thinking - she tried to apologize but that didn't even make sense either. Of course I left it go to save the peace. We are cordial !

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Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

Lol touché, that was one arrow right on target.

Honestly, it's a little comforting for me to see. They are doing what they want with their time, and serving their individual needs while also uploading content that let's everyone else in on how Virgos are. I get it. People do what they want to do.

This is why I don't feel the need to reach out at all. But I seriously don't understand why any sign would need space but still need someone to check up on them. Virgos and Aquas are like this and start feeling some type of way when their silence is reciprocated.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Like just come back when you want some company or want to talk and I will be here. Space isn't that big of a deal- Take all that you need.

i feel a kindred spirit in Aquarius sometimes (that is when they're not trying to be too pompous). and the fact that they won't pry too much into my emotions and situation is well-appreciated. some people will always try to pick on your wounds, try to get a 'lick' on them, wanting and thinking they can help us. some of us don't want it.

there was one time when i didn't even have contact with my Aquarius friend one time but i called her up randomly then just started sobbing over the phone. i picked up the phone and just burst out crying haha that must've freaked her out. then i refuse to tell her what happened and i just pretended i didn't just do what i did.

her cooperation i always look back on fondly ❤️

i was gonna comment earlier about how i nearly entirely resonate w/ what you are saying. i was gonna attribute it to the aqua/11th/uranus in my chart.

i isolate & it can get very extreme. i wont talk to anyone, see anyone, leave the house. will go days w/ out uttering a word from my own mouth. & i can be perfectly content doing this for months. i can entertain myself & my home is the busiest place for me.

i identify as a hermit, often.

i called her coz i know she won't try to dive into my feelings. and it's gonna be humiliating for me to lose my shit so i chose someone who'd let me keep my dignity and pretend she didn't just witness my lapse in control. the fact that she's so usually detached made me feel she's a stranger and i can make mistakes around strangers.

there should be a business like that.

crying randomly into a stranger without saying anything nor explaining yourself and them just sitting there, existing.

nobody talks about anything and we all go home.

aquas can be very good about letting people be themselves w/ out the other person feeling judged.

like, go ‘head cry, no one gonna judge you here.

although, secretly they are always judging lmao

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i know that but thank god they don't force shit from you and can pretend to brush it off.

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Sometimes I watch Virgo videos on Youtube and they are so long, sometime 2 hours and they are frequent, uploaded once, twice or three times on a weekly basis, and all I think about while watching, is "I wonder who they are ignoring" 😆

Lol touché, that was one arrow right on target.

Honestly, it's a little comforting for me to see. They are doing what they want with their time, and serving their individual needs while also uploading content that let's everyone else in on how Virgos are. I get it. People do what they want to do.

This is why I don't feel the need to reach out at all. But I seriously don't understand why any sign would need space but still need someone to check up on them. Virgos and Aquas are like this and start feeling some type of way when their silence is reciprocated.

It just doesn't make sense to me. Like just come back when you want some company or want to talk and I will be here. Space isn't that big of a deal- Take all that you need.

i feel a kindred spirit in Aquarius sometimes (that is when they're not trying to be too pompous). and the fact that they won't pry too much into my emotions and situation is well-appreciated. some people will always try to pick on your wounds, try to get a 'lick' on them, wanting and thinking they can help us. some of us don't want it.

there was one time when i didn't even have contact with my Aquarius friend one time but i called her up randomly then just started sobbing over the phone. i picked up the phone and just burst out crying haha that must've freaked her out. then i refuse to tell her what happened and i just pretended i didn't just do what i did.

her cooperation in my state of denial and grief i always look back on fondly ❤️

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Sometimes it's nice to just have a friend there that's understanding and doesn't have to know all the details. I get it 🙂

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You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

I mean we all have our moments but all the time? Imo...that goes deeper. and this coming from a fire dominant person haha

oh its deep - that much I knew from the beginning - why ? perhaps because I'm older and therefore wiser than she is - in life - even though she insists she knows everything because she's got a masters degree lol

Ugh...I hate when people use a piece of paper like its gold and makes them all knowing. You cant master life as much as some want to believe that...its just not possible.

exactly - I mentioned something jokingly as she and my son were talking about passing something down and called her the DNA Queen because she has her Masters in Genetics and she said seriously "you can refer to me as Doctor ______" and I said I prefer DNA Queen - she didn't like that I guess but I'm a Taurus and I didn't give a fuck because it wasn't meant to be mean or anything so fuck her and her stupid way of thinking - she tried to apologize but that didn't even make sense either. Of course I left it go to save the peace. We are cordial !

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That's some funny ass shit...DNA queen 😂. I would have said it to knock her ass down a couple pegs...someone needs to. Sounds like she been stuck on that high horse for wayyyy to long!

Like I get it takes a lot to get a master's and all but you don't have to be an ass because of it...some people are really only about that status 🙄. Super annoying!

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You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

I mean we all have our moments but all the time? Imo...that goes deeper. and this coming from a fire dominant person haha

oh its deep - that much I knew from the beginning - why ? perhaps because I'm older and therefore wiser than she is - in life - even though she insists she knows everything because she's got a masters degree lol

Ugh...I hate when people use a piece of paper like its gold and makes them all knowing. You cant master life as much as some want to believe that...its just not possible.

exactly - I mentioned something jokingly as she and my son were talking about passing something down and called her the DNA Queen because she has her Masters in Genetics and she said seriously "you can refer to me as Doctor ______" and I said I prefer DNA Queen - she didn't like that I guess but I'm a Taurus and I didn't give a fuck because it wasn't meant to be mean or anything so fuck her and her stupid way of thinking - she tried to apologize but that didn't even make sense either. Of course I left it go to save the peace. We are cordial !

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most virgos are oversensitive.

i guess tauruses are just more impulsive.

she probably thought you were mocking her like that time my taurus friend tried to sell me supplements when she found out i'm sick. was that evil? maybe not but i am STILL UPSET i don't care.

if i'm always gonna get upset, there's no point being friends anyway.

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If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.

my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos

I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.

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sounds sort of Saggy but it's not fair to you or the other when you say "I get lonely when I want attention from someone and they are not giving it" - my best buddy co-worker was a Sag and she was like this a little bit but I loved her anyway so no big deal ... and I do think Virgo females got some leftover "attention" thing from the Leos ...

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You focus way too much on the negative side of being a Virgo...there's no balance. You teeter too far. Maybe it's due to the fact that you're still young? Idk...like I can relate to what you say and your thoughts but I can't say that I've lived my life in that way...maybe on occasion when things weren't going the way I wanted or expected but I eventually have grown out of that mentality.

It's like you lack patience and empathy for anything and everybody. Why?

sounds like my daughter in law - a Virgo - although she does have empathy for animals and she's very protective of her son - but patience is definitely not a virtue

I mean we all have our moments but all the time? Imo...that goes deeper. and this coming from a fire dominant person haha

oh its deep - that much I knew from the beginning - why ? perhaps because I'm older and therefore wiser than she is - in life - even though she insists she knows everything because she's got a masters degree lol

Ugh...I hate when people use a piece of paper like its gold and makes them all knowing. You cant master life as much as some want to believe that...its just not possible.

exactly - I mentioned something jokingly as she and my son were talking about passing something down and called her the DNA Queen because she has her Masters in Genetics and she said seriously "you can refer to me as Doctor ______" and I said I prefer DNA Queen - she didn't like that I guess but I'm a Taurus and I didn't give a fuck because it wasn't meant to be mean or anything so fuck her and her stupid way of thinking - she tried to apologize but that didn't even make sense either. Of course I left it go to save the peace. We are cordial !

most virgos are oversensitive.

i guess tauruses are just more impulsive.

she probably thought you were mocking her like that time my taurus friend tried to sell me supplements when she found out i'm sick. was that evil? maybe not but i am STILL UPSET i don't care.

if i'm always gonna get upset, there's no point being friends anyway.

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I would have offered to give you supplements to help you feel better but I wouldn't try to sell anyone anything when they are sick omg lol

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If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇

😇😇😇

i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.

but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'

but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.

People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.

my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos

I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.

sounds sort of Saggy but it's not fair to you or the other when you say "I get lonely when I want attention from someone and they are not giving it" - my best buddy co-worker was a Sag and she was like this a little bit but I loved her anyway so no big deal ... and I do think Virgo females got some leftover "attention" thing from the Leos ...

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Why is this not fair? I said “I”. There is no one that I’m blaming. I’m not taking it out on the other party, I’m forced to accept my own feelings and sit and wait. I can only control myself and my behavior. I can’t control someone else’s. But in that behavior goes with it, the behavior I think you deserve, so if that person ghosts, so will I. I won’t put myself out there to soothe someone else’s ego while they are away. It’s easier to be on the receiving end and just welcome them back.

See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.

I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.

You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?