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If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇
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i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.
but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'
but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.
People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.
my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos
I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.
sounds sort of Saggy but it's not fair to you or the other when you say "I get lonely when I want attention from someone and they are not giving it" - my best buddy co-worker was a Sag and she was like this a little bit but I loved her anyway so no big deal ... and I do think Virgo females got some leftover "attention" thing from the Leos ...
Why is this not fair? I said “I”. There is no one that I’m blaming. I’m not taking it out on the other party, I’m forced to accept my own feelings and sit and wait. I can only control myself and my behavior. I can’t control someone else’s. But in that behavior goes with it, the behavior I think you deserve, so if that person ghosts, so will I. I won’t put myself out there to soothe someone else’s ego while they are away. It’s easier to be on the receiving end and just welcome them back.
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so you are detached in relationships but reach out when you need affection/attention and then feel lonely when you don't get it - no you are not blaming anyone - I guess I just think that's a bit harsh for you to expect that once a while when you feel like reaching out that that person should be there to return the affection - although you don't blame the other when you don't get it but is that fair to you ? it sounds harsh - like you might need someone just like you - but you have that in your twin - so how do you deal with a partner who wants to give you all his affection/attention ... I did read it again but it still feels like you need more attention/affection - more often - but I know you said you don't ... should I rub your back ? lol
If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇
😇😇😇
i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.
but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'
but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.
People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.
my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos
I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.
sounds sort of Saggy but it's not fair to you or the other when you say "I get lonely when I want attention from someone and they are not giving it" - my best buddy co-worker was a Sag and she was like this a little bit but I loved her anyway so no big deal ... and I do think Virgo females got some leftover "attention" thing from the Leos ...
Why is this not fair? I said “I”. There is no one that I’m blaming. I’m not taking it out on the other party, I’m forced to accept my own feelings and sit and wait. I can only control myself and my behavior. I can’t control someone else’s. But in that behavior goes with it, the behavior I think you deserve, so if that person ghosts, so will I. I won’t put myself out there to soothe someone else’s ego while they are away. It’s easier to be on the receiving end and just welcome them back.
so you are detached in relationships but reach out when you need affection/attention and then feel lonely when you don't get it - no you are not blaming anyone - I guess I just think that's a bit harsh for you to expect that once a while when you feel like reaching out that that person should be there to return the affection - although you don't blame the other when you don't get it but is that fair to you ? it sounds harsh - like you might need someone just like you - but you have that in your twin - so how do you deal with a partner who wants to give you all his affection/attention ... I did read it again but it still feels like you need more attention/affection - more often - but I know you said you don't ... should I rub your back ? lol
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No, I don't reach out at all, unless I'm told to do so. If I'm lonely, I deal with it internally and just wait it out.
There is a steady flow of communication when I am texting or talking to someone. But if a person is ignoring my text, I will not double text. I will go a month or forever without ever sending another text. Things need to be balanced. I do my work and they do theirs. I don't make a guy do all of the work but me answering texts and sending a random meme or two to get something going on occasion works.
I do need attention and affection but I think everyone does, and more often yes, currently I'm seeing this Virgo twice a month, casually. That seems like a pretty big gap to me, even if we are getting to know each other.
If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇
😇😇😇
i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.
but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'
but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.
People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.
my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos
I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.
sounds sort of Saggy but it's not fair to you or the other when you say "I get lonely when I want attention from someone and they are not giving it" - my best buddy co-worker was a Sag and she was like this a little bit but I loved her anyway so no big deal ... and I do think Virgo females got some leftover "attention" thing from the Leos ...
Why is this not fair? I said “I”. There is no one that I’m blaming. I’m not taking it out on the other party, I’m forced to accept my own feelings and sit and wait. I can only control myself and my behavior. I can’t control someone else’s. But in that behavior goes with it, the behavior I think you deserve, so if that person ghosts, so will I. I won’t put myself out there to soothe someone else’s ego while they are away. It’s easier to be on the receiving end and just welcome them back.
so you are detached in relationships but reach out when you need affection/attention and then feel lonely when you don't get it - no you are not blaming anyone - I guess I just think that's a bit harsh for you to expect that once a while when you feel like reaching out that that person should be there to return the affection - although you don't blame the other when you don't get it but is that fair to you ? it sounds harsh - like you might need someone just like you - but you have that in your twin - so how do you deal with a partner who wants to give you all his affection/attention ... I did read it again but it still feels like you need more attention/affection - more often - but I know you said you don't ... should I rub your back ? lol
No, I don't reach out at all, unless I'm told to do so. If I'm lonely, I deal with it internally and just wait it out.
There is a steady flow of communication when I am texting or talking to someone. But if a person is ignoring my text, I will not double text. I will go a month or forever without ever sending another text. Things need to be balanced. I do my work and they do theirs. I don't make a guy do all of the work but me answering texts and sending a random meme or two to get something going on occasion works.
I do need attention and affection but I think everyone does, and more often yes, currently I'm seeing this Virgo twice a month, casually. That seems like a pretty big gap to me, even if we are getting to know each other.
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cool and I totally agree on the balance concept
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
my 26th bday's going to force me to interact with so many people from the past and it's stressing me out. it's always like this when my bday's coming up.
If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇
😇😇😇
i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.
but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'
but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.
People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.
my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos
I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.
sounds sort of Saggy but it's not fair to you or the other when you say "I get lonely when I want attention from someone and they are not giving it" - my best buddy co-worker was a Sag and she was like this a little bit but I loved her anyway so no big deal ... and I do think Virgo females got some leftover "attention" thing from the Leos ...
Why is this not fair? I said “I”. There is no one that I’m blaming. I’m not taking it out on the other party, I’m forced to accept my own feelings and sit and wait. I can only control myself and my behavior. I can’t control someone else’s. But in that behavior goes with it, the behavior I think you deserve, so if that person ghosts, so will I. I won’t put myself out there to soothe someone else’s ego while they are away. It’s easier to be on the receiving end and just welcome them back.
so you are detached in relationships but reach out when you need affection/attention and then feel lonely when you don't get it - no you are not blaming anyone - I guess I just think that's a bit harsh for you to expect that once a while when you feel like reaching out that that person should be there to return the affection - although you don't blame the other when you don't get it but is that fair to you ? it sounds harsh - like you might need someone just like you - but you have that in your twin - so how do you deal with a partner who wants to give you all his affection/attention ... I did read it again but it still feels like you need more attention/affection - more often - but I know you said you don't ... should I rub your back ? lol
No, I don't reach out at all, unless I'm told to do so. If I'm lonely, I deal with it internally and just wait it out.
There is a steady flow of communication when I am texting or talking to someone. But if a person is ignoring my text, I will not double text. I will go a month or forever without ever sending another text. Things need to be balanced. I do my work and they do theirs. I don't make a guy do all of the work but me answering texts and sending a random meme or two to get something going on occasion works.
I do need attention and affection but I think everyone does, and more often yes, currently I'm seeing this Virgo twice a month, casually. That seems like a pretty big gap to me, even if we are getting to know each other.
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2x a month?
that's basically nothing to me
@saggurl88 but then again i don't forgive people for months, ignoring and neglecting on purpose too
If you can't communicate about it, then in the mean time, until you learn how, simply start lying. For the family say you have this work thing for work say you have a family emergancy. 😇
😇😇😇
i never go unscathed whenever i enforce my military isolationism. dictators never get a break 😢 i just want my island left alone and all i get is these MNCs trying to build a Pepsi building on here. it's disgusting, burning the forest and sh---oh wait that's not my life.
but srsly, people just can't mind their own fucking business. it's not that i'm a snob but i just don't wanna 'know' anybody. we're all just drones, what else is out there? just drones with 'interests.'
but okay i'm gonna go with the 'endless dinner' lie.
People really bug you that much? This is the exact reason why I'm glad I don't call or text anyone. Who wants to annoy someone so much.
my daughter in law actually told me that her friends know that she can't stand anyone for more than 20 minutes - and that she's not sure how she does it with my son - I mean who's like this - other than some female Virgos
I don't know lol My twin brother is married to a Virgo Female and she actually complains about him not being affectionate enough and ignoring her. We are very detached in relationships, he and I, we don't "need" people. We seriously neglect our partners, that's why it's best for someone to just live with us, if they want to see us and want affection.
sounds sort of Saggy but it's not fair to you or the other when you say "I get lonely when I want attention from someone and they are not giving it" - my best buddy co-worker was a Sag and she was like this a little bit but I loved her anyway so no big deal ... and I do think Virgo females got some leftover "attention" thing from the Leos ...
Why is this not fair? I said “I”. There is no one that I’m blaming. I’m not taking it out on the other party, I’m forced to accept my own feelings and sit and wait. I can only control myself and my behavior. I can’t control someone else’s. But in that behavior goes with it, the behavior I think you deserve, so if that person ghosts, so will I. I won’t put myself out there to soothe someone else’s ego while they are away. It’s easier to be on the receiving end and just welcome them back.
so you are detached in relationships but reach out when you need affection/attention and then feel lonely when you don't get it - no you are not blaming anyone - I guess I just think that's a bit harsh for you to expect that once a while when you feel like reaching out that that person should be there to return the affection - although you don't blame the other when you don't get it but is that fair to you ? it sounds harsh - like you might need someone just like you - but you have that in your twin - so how do you deal with a partner who wants to give you all his affection/attention ... I did read it again but it still feels like you need more attention/affection - more often - but I know you said you don't ... should I rub your back ? lol
No, I don't reach out at all, unless I'm told to do so. If I'm lonely, I deal with it internally and just wait it out.
There is a steady flow of communication when I am texting or talking to someone. But if a person is ignoring my text, I will not double text. I will go a month or forever without ever sending another text. Things need to be balanced. I do my work and they do theirs. I don't make a guy do all of the work but me answering texts and sending a random meme or two to get something going on occasion works.
I do need attention and affection but I think everyone does, and more often yes, currently I'm seeing this Virgo twice a month, casually. That seems like a pretty big gap to me, even if we are getting to know each other.
2x a month?
that's basically nothing to me
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I don't get what you're saying. I'm too literal.
Nothing as in- It's easy to do and 2X is enough
Nothing as in- It's not enough time.
@saggurl88 but then again i don't forgive people for months, ignoring and neglecting on purpose too
LMAO- I get this, I actually don't do anything bad to a person to get treated like that, or at least I try not to. If I don't know something is bothering the person, then I can't fix it.
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
my 26th bday's going to force me to interact with so many people from the past and it's stressing me out. it's always like this when my bday's coming up.
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Why do you have to see them? It's your day, take some time for yourself. Plan a spa day of relaxation or something. Have a low key birthday. Set up a gofundme account for gifts, if they love you and respect your space they will give you a gift- If they don't, then don't take it personally.
Is your family wealthy? Are you, for the lack of a better word at the moment, spoiled by your parents/grandparents?
You remind me so much of my Libra cousin it isnt funny!
Well, not totally, she wont even put an effort into talking to someone unless they clear 6 figures.
why do you ask? but i've been asked questions of a similar vein at most of my jobs (which i think starts the snowballing into bullshittery). i think most people see me a certain way coz i have a driver and i went to a snooty university. they're always asking personal questions and trying to hangout in my house (this makes me very sad). the only person i consider my 'friend' at work is a Scorpio sun/Cap moon who went to the same snooty university and whose father's a high-ranking general. i live in a neighborhood where there's a lot of retired high-ranking generals. i think that most people don't really wanna 'know' us and that's why we stick to each other.
@Sarapis also i HAVE A JOB though i always act like i'm getting paid to write here
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
my 26th bday's going to force me to interact with so many people from the past and it's stressing me out. it's always like this when my bday's coming up.
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Oh shit...you haven't even had your Saturn return yet. Maybe that will be what will cause a change?
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
😂😂
Is your family wealthy? Are you, for the lack of a better word at the moment, spoiled by your parents/grandparents?
You remind me so much of my Libra cousin it isnt funny!
Well, not totally, she wont even put an effort into talking to someone unless they clear 6 figures.
why do you ask? but i've been asked questions of a similar vein at most of my jobs (which i think starts the snowballing into bullshittery). i think most people see me a certain way coz i have a driver and i went to a snooty university. they're always asking personal questions and trying to hangout in my house (this makes me very sad). the only person i consider my 'friend' at work is a Scorpio sun/Cap moon who went to the same snooty university and whose father's a high-ranking general. i live in a neighborhood where there's a lot of high-ranking generals. i think that most people don't really wanna 'know' us and that's why we stick to each other.
So, just trying to read between the lines here, that's a "yes"?
I ask because I see this a lot in wealthy families, where there is a defense mechanism because they feel judged at first meeting. My family was wealthy as fuck while I was growing up, I did some of the same, only it's a little different for guys compared to women. Like I said, my cousin is a good person, she's just... IDK.. uppity in social situations? Her time is more valuable than anyone else's kinda thing.
Also, the taurus selling you supplements... maybe she thought you have a lot of disposable income?
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she went to the same snooty university but she always held her money so close to her. i didn't mind it back then but years go by and she's still cheap as ever. i actually preferred my Libra friend over her who was just as generous as me. in a way, the Taurus was my 'backup' friend and i think deep down she resents me for that.
though i still don't understand why i'm being 'uppity' here.
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
😂😂
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I had to- I love being dramatic with that moon of yours! 😆
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
😂😂
I had to- I love being dramatic with that moon of yours! 😆
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
😂😂
I had to- I love being dramatic with that moon of yours! 😆
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
😂😂
I had to- I love being dramatic with that moon of yours! 😆
See I'm really starting to believe I'm just not a virgo...at least anymore.
I have a retro Merc and Uranus in the 1st house ...I can relate...sure but man, it's like wasting your life being stuck in this mentality all the time. It's one thing to take time to recharge and some times are longer than others but to seriously isolate yourself that much isnt right and to think of others so poorly is exactly what's wrong with this world. It's that holier than thou virgo complex.. we ain't all that. We ain't above anybody.
You ain't living life...your letting life live you and your passing up experiences and connections and for what? What are you gonna gain from this? What's your end goal here? Are you wanting some other Virgo down the line to quote one of your quotes about loneliness? Is that what you want to be known for or is it some type of competition?
😂😂
I had to- I love being dramatic with that moon of yours! 😆
I'm creeping myself out with how cheesy I'm being, so I have to stop here 😆 Hahahaha!
@Sarapis also i HAVE A JOB though i always act like i'm getting paid to write here
having a job does not have anything to do w/ coming from a wealthy family.
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he said the word 'spoiled' so
Is your family wealthy? Are you, for the lack of a better word at the moment, spoiled by your parents/grandparents?
You remind me so much of my Libra cousin it isnt funny!
Well, not totally, she wont even put an effort into talking to someone unless they clear 6 figures.
why do you ask? but i've been asked questions of a similar vein at most of my jobs (which i think starts the snowballing into bullshittery). i think most people see me a certain way coz i have a driver and i went to a snooty university. they're always asking personal questions and trying to hangout in my house (this makes me very sad). the only person i consider my 'friend' at work is a Scorpio sun/Cap moon who went to the same snooty university and whose father's a high-ranking general. i live in a neighborhood where there's a lot of high-ranking generals. i think that most people don't really wanna 'know' us and that's why we stick to each other.
So, just trying to read between the lines here, that's a "yes"?
I ask because I see this a lot in wealthy families, where there is a defense mechanism because they feel judged at first meeting. My family was wealthy as fuck while I was growing up, I did some of the same, only it's a little different for guys compared to women. Like I said, my cousin is a good person, she's just... IDK.. uppity in social situations? Her time is more valuable than anyone else's kinda thing.
Also, the taurus selling you supplements... maybe she thought you have a lot of disposable income?
she went to the same snooty university but she always held her money so close to her. i didn't mind it back then but years go by and she's still cheap as ever. i actually preferred my Libra friend over her who was just as generous as me. in a way, the Taurus was my 'backup' friend and i think deep down she resents me for that.
though i still don't understand why i'm being 'uppity' here.
I do like how you evade the original question lol.
So, assuming you do come from wealth, it's a different mindset. It's a mentality, not so much the physical money. I mean technically you have been poor, your parents would have been wealthy, and it's the treatment from them and people around you that shapes you IMO. There are a whole different set of problems that you run into from other people. The whole "haves and have-nots" is a real thing, everyone wants to play an angle. All the people you listed have 1 thing in common, they're all celebrities who are at the peak. I read somewhere that virgos are near the top of all Instagram and YouTubers... not exactly a private domain.. but, that's the difference between the 'haves' who want to protect and the 'have nots' who want to gain.
You said something the other day about people being fake. Jeez that hit home.. I dated my ex for almost 6 months before I ever told her my last name because I knew that would put a whole new spin on how she saw me and I figured if I pissed her off by being secretive that was better than being used.
What I'm getting at is if you did grow up in a similar environment, not saying you did, you're likely to hold most people at arms length for various reasons of self defense.
Okay, you have a job.... but do you need it?
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people have a way of breaking my heart just by the smallest things.
a look or a word that don't go down well with me and i might not be talking to you for months. but the intention/implication behind it always mean something to me. something hurtful obviously.
in my very first job, i was the youngest. by education i've acquired that but most of the people when i entered the workplace treated me so.... weird. if you were a decent person, you would treat that as a non-subject. the Scorpio sun/Cap moon in my workplace never made me feel that weird gap coz i guess having lived somewhat similar lives, things just felt 'natural' with him.
@Sarapis i like to talk about mundane shit that most people don't even talk about and i do that on purpose but in my first job they'd ask me things like where i live (specifics and shit) and where i parked my car (subtle shit). things they don't ask other people and i felt this pang in my chest. i was maybe 19 or 20 at that time and that was the first time that i interacted with people for a long period of time who lived so differently. maybe i was very naive coz i'm so used to hearing people talk casually about things that i guess felt new to them.
To be honest, as a virgo i want to be alone to find myself. I take every f**king thing seriously. Be it relationships, love, friendships. Always felt as i was too intense and sensitive in the world to live. But as i grow up i am learning things, i still can't let go people. And also i do like to be lonely. Because i have been betrayed too much. I have noticed that, we virgos are Natural empaths, if something is going on in the world, or someone's life, its like its been happening to us. I dont know if other virgos feel this way, but i do feel that kinda way. So i just shut myself off from the world. Because i can't face the negativity of world.
To be honest, as a virgo i want to be alone to find myself. I take every f**king thing seriously. Be it relationships, love, friendships. Always felt as i was too intense and sensitive in the world to live. But as i grow up i am learning things, i still can't let go people. And also i do like to be lonely. Because i have been betrayed too much. I have noticed that, we virgos are Natural empaths, if something is going on in the world, or someone's life, its like its been happening to us. I dont know if other virgos feel this way, but i do feel that kinda way. So i just shut myself off from the world. Because i can't face the negativity of world.
I feel ya but there is always going to be negativity in the world and you can't let that stop you from living your life...sure take time to recharge etc but to let it completely stop you...nah, why? What is that doing for you?
Life is just way to fucking short and doesn't need to be that serious all the time. Do other things to cut yourself off from the negativity...I stopped watching the news, hell I really stopped watching tv altogether for about 2 yrs, I cut myself off social media, etc. It helped....it helped a lot. I get everyone's not like me and that's fine but I hate to see other Virgos just swimming in our martyr side.
I don't see Virgo as wanting to be a Hermit at all.
I see them as not realizing what it is about them that pushes people away.
We know...deep down we know exactly what we do to cause it. We are majority of the time the common denominator.
To be honest, as a virgo i want to be alone to find myself. I take every f**king thing seriously. Be it relationships, love, friendships. Always felt as i was too intense and sensitive in the world to live. But as i grow up i am learning things, i still can't let go people. And also i do like to be lonely. Because i have been betrayed too much. I have noticed that, we virgos are Natural empaths, if something is going on in the world, or someone's life, its like its been happening to us. I dont know if other virgos feel this way, but i do feel that kinda way. So i just shut myself off from the world. Because i can't face the negativity of world.
I feel ya but there is always going to be negativity in the world and you can't let that stop you from living your life...sure take time to recharge etc but to let it completely stop you...nah, why? What is that doing for you?
Life is just way to fucking short and doesn't need to be that serious all the time. Do other things to cut yourself off from the negativity...I stopped watching the news, hell I really stopped watching tv altogether for about 2 yrs, I cut myself off social media, etc. It helped....it helped a lot. I get everyone's not like me and that's fine but I hate to see other Virgos just swimming in our martyr side.
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Yeah, i am still learning. And yeah, sometimes i just want to delete things related to social media. Its a blessing and a curse to be a virgo. Always felt out of place lol. And always in my mind.
To be honest, as a virgo i want to be alone to find myself. I take every f**king thing seriously. Be it relationships, love, friendships. Always felt as i was too intense and sensitive in the world to live. But as i grow up i am learning things, i still can't let go people. And also i do like to be lonely. Because i have been betrayed too much. I have noticed that, we virgos are Natural empaths, if something is going on in the world, or someone's life, its like its been happening to us. I dont know if other virgos feel this way, but i do feel that kinda way. So i just shut myself off from the world. Because i can't face the negativity of world.
I feel ya but there is always going to be negativity in the world and you can't let that stop you from living your life...sure take time to recharge etc but to let it completely stop you...nah, why? What is that doing for you?
Life is just way to fucking short and doesn't need to be that serious all the time. Do other things to cut yourself off from the negativity...I stopped watching the news, hell I really stopped watching tv altogether for about 2 yrs, I cut myself off social media, etc. It helped....it helped a lot. I get everyone's not like me and that's fine but I hate to see other Virgos just swimming in our martyr side.
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*side eyeing the crap out this virgo chick* 😏
Yes we know what pushes ppl away? But what we cant understand is why everyone else opens up and likes socializing so much and We DON'T.
Dont start with ur fire virgo bullshit....not this month!!!! 👉 📦
To be honest, as a virgo i want to be alone to find myself. I take every f**king thing seriously. Be it relationships, love, friendships. Always felt as i was too intense and sensitive in the world to live. But as i grow up i am learning things, i still can't let go people. And also i do like to be lonely. Because i have been betrayed too much. I have noticed that, we virgos are Natural empaths, if something is going on in the world, or someone's life, its like its been happening to us. I dont know if other virgos feel this way, but i do feel that kinda way. So i just shut myself off from the world. Because i can't face the negativity of world.
I feel ya but there is always going to be negativity in the world and you can't let that stop you from living your life...sure take time to recharge etc but to let it completely stop you...nah, why? What is that doing for you?
Life is just way to fucking short and doesn't need to be that serious all the time. Do other things to cut yourself off from the negativity...I stopped watching the news, hell I really stopped watching tv altogether for about 2 yrs, I cut myself off social media, etc. It helped....it helped a lot. I get everyone's not like me and that's fine but I hate to see other Virgos just swimming in our martyr side.
*side eyeing the crap out this virgo chick* 😏
Yes we know what pushes ppl away? But what we cant understand is why everyone else opens up and likes socializing so much and We DON'T.
Dont start with ur fire virgo bullshit....not this month!!!! 👉 📦
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Don't get your panties in a twist 😂
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
I don’t think it has to do with hermitage or asking for loneliness. I think it has moreso to do with the fact that virgos don’t really connect that well with people. Whether it’s as acquaintances or friends or more. And that can give us a feeling of loneliness even when we’re talking to multiple people.
Even with my sag stellium and the ability to use my humor and talk to many, I had such a huge problem ACTUALLY connecting with people. Yes you can chatter, but it’s all meaningless. And I think what made the loneliness worse was realizing how easy it seemed for everyone else to make genuine connections.
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
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As firey as I am I def agree with what you’re saying. It has nothing to do with wanting the loneliness or faking it for attention or doing it on purpose or whatever hellish “answer” has been given in this topic.
I think it just has to do with the feeling of lost connection. Given virgos are always in our heads like Gemini, but unlike them we are negative mercury. And keep to ourselves.
Yes, I am firey, yes I laugh and talk and have quite charisma. But it’s all meaningless chatter. It’s all “in the moment” feel-good statements and comments that bring laughter as a response.
Finding people I ACTUALLY connect to, can be quite difficult for myself and for other virgos. Yes any sign can be introvert but it has nothing to do with that. You can have 3 good friends and feel like you have the world, but I have 30 acquaintances who laugh at the end of every one of my sentences, that don’t even know a thing about me nor care to either
But in positive sag stellium fashion lmao I will say, it can be done. Virgos can find genuine connections and lose that feeling of loneliness. It just takes some time and quite a lot of trial and error. Ofc we’re always going to need our alone time but once we find those maybe just 3 gems that enjoy our alone time and are right outside the door when we’re ready to come out, it’ll be heaven on earth.
To be honest, as a virgo i want to be alone to find myself. I take every f**king thing seriously. Be it relationships, love, friendships. Always felt as i was too intense and sensitive in the world to live. But as i grow up i am learning things, i still can't let go people. And also i do like to be lonely. Because i have been betrayed too much. I have noticed that, we virgos are Natural empaths, if something is going on in the world, or someone's life, its like its been happening to us. I dont know if other virgos feel this way, but i do feel that kinda way. So i just shut myself off from the world. Because i can't face the negativity of world.
I feel ya but there is always going to be negativity in the world and you can't let that stop you from living your life...sure take time to recharge etc but to let it completely stop you...nah, why? What is that doing for you?
Life is just way to fucking short and doesn't need to be that serious all the time. Do other things to cut yourself off from the negativity...I stopped watching the news, hell I really stopped watching tv altogether for about 2 yrs, I cut myself off social media, etc. It helped....it helped a lot. I get everyone's not like me and that's fine but I hate to see other Virgos just swimming in our martyr side.
*side eyeing the crap out this virgo chick* 😏
Yes we know what pushes ppl away? But what we cant understand is why everyone else opens up and likes socializing so much and We DON'T.
Dont start with ur fire virgo bullshit....not this month!!!! 👉 📦
Don't get your panties in a twist 😂
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Water moon outbursts🤷♀️
As firey as I am I def agree with what you’re saying. It has nothing to do with wanting the loneliness or faking it for attention or doing it on purpose or whatever hellish “answer” has been given in this topic.
I think it just has to do with the feeling of lost connection. Given virgos are always in our heads like Gemini, but unlike them we are negative mercury. And keep to ourselves.
Yes, I am firey, yes I laugh and talk and have quite charisma. But it’s all meaningless chatter. It’s all “in the moment” feel-good statements and comments that bring laughter as a response.
Finding people I ACTUALLY connect to, can be quite difficult for myself and for other virgos. Yes any sign can be introvert but it has nothing to do with that. You can have 3 good friends and feel like you have the world, but I have 30 acquaintances who laugh at the end of every one of my sentences, that don’t even know a thing about me nor care to either
you can talk all day about yourself without actually saying anything about yourself. virgos i've found are masters of this craft. i think we're more honest when we're sad.
i've been listening to jacqueline bisset interviews (virgo sun/leo moon) and i've always had this theory that the ultimate representation of whatever sun must always have a leo moon. they are the epitome of whatever their sun sign is. and i've been looking at interviews with other virgos too and there's always some undertone of some real sad shit going on, like we're always bound to someone we need to take care of... and often we think of love and duty as the same thing.
and sadly, that sense of worthlessness or some type of low level esteem's there too. it's a recurring pattern and it's just sad asf. boy do i have a collection of sad ass shit right now.
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
Pisces and Virgo share many qualities tbh
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Um yeah I was just replying to her being in the Virgo forum. Giving me the impression that she made her appearance in the wrong forum because she's no Virgo.
Skimming thru a lot of yalls posts (yours too) I gotta say I don't think you all got it worse than me. I gets moody. Sometimes for no reason. And I wants to be alone ALLLLLL the time. I only socialize when I feel like it. And to ones i know who wont talk my ears off either. Otherwise i turn the other way when i see those talkative types coming my way. So Im convinced this is not only a Virgo thing.
I barely keep in touch with friends I find it a hassle and prefer to spend time quietly lounging
I barely keep in touch with friends I find it a hassle and prefer to spend time quietly lounging
same tbh
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
Pisces and Virgo share many qualities tbh
Um yeah I was just replying to her being in the Virgo forum. Giving me the impression that she made her appearance in the wrong forum because she's no Virgo.
Skimming thru a lot of yalls posts (yours too) I gotta say I don't think you all got it worse than me. I gets moody. Sometimes for no reason. And I wants to be alone ALLLLLL the time. I only socialize when I feel like it. And to ones i know who wont talk my ears off either. Otherwise i turn the other way when i see those talkative types coming my way. So Im convinced this is not only a Virgo thing.
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i don't really mind if other signs reply coz they might have observed virgos they know too
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
Pisces and Virgo share many qualities tbh
Um yeah I was just replying to her being in the Virgo forum. Giving me the impression that she made her appearance in the wrong forum because she's no Virgo.
Skimming thru a lot of yalls posts (yours too) I gotta say I don't think you all got it worse than me. I gets moody. Sometimes for no reason. And I wants to be alone ALLLLLL the time. I only socialize when I feel like it. And to ones i know who wont talk my ears off either. Otherwise i turn the other way when i see those talkative types coming my way. So Im convinced this is not only a Virgo thing.
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I’d rather not play the “woe is Me” and “who has it worse” game tbh. Moodiness is one thing. But there is a darker energy involved here. A deep sense of loneliness. You’re talking about wanting to be ALONE, virgos don’t really care for being alone. Nor is that what this thread is about. Being alone and being lonely are two different things. And it’s also quite different when the loneliness is brought on by you or by everyone else.
When you say talkative types, what do you mean? Like overly chatty people? Bc i was just saying that it has nothing to do with introvert/extrovert or someone who’s outgoing vs someone who’s shy lmao I think you’ve misunderstood me
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
Pisces and Virgo share many qualities tbh
Um yeah I was just replying to her being in the Virgo forum. Giving me the impression that she made her appearance in the wrong forum because she's no Virgo.
Skimming thru a lot of yalls posts (yours too) I gotta say I don't think you all got it worse than me. I gets moody. Sometimes for no reason. And I wants to be alone ALLLLLL the time. I only socialize when I feel like it. And to ones i know who wont talk my ears off either. Otherwise i turn the other way when i see those talkative types coming my way. So Im convinced this is not only a Virgo thing.
I’d rather not play the “woe is Me” and “who has it worse” game tbh. Moodiness is one thing. But there is a darker energy involved here. A deep sense of loneliness. You’re talking about wanting to be ALONE, virgos don’t really care for being alone. Nor is that what this thread is about. Being alone and being lonely are two different things. And it’s also quite different when the loneliness is brought on by you or by everyone else.
When you say talkative types, what do you mean? Like overly chatty people? Bc i was just saying that it has nothing to do with introvert/extrovert or someone who’s outgoing vs someone who’s shy lmao I think you’ve misunderstood me
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Well I play that game. Lonely is when you have no friends, no family life, nobody in your life. Being alone is (like me) simply wanting to be alone and not wanting to be bothered.
And yes that's exactly the kind of talkative people I'm talking about. Those chatty types who likes to talk you to death for a very long time. And it does have a whole hellava lot to do with introverts and extroverts. Introverts should stick to their own kind. Extroverts should stick to their own kinds.
I just want to play video games in the dark without pants. Why not? I already pay the bill to keep the power on. 😁
Do you have any single friends?
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
Pisces and Virgo share many qualities tbh
Um yeah I was just replying to her being in the Virgo forum. Giving me the impression that she made her appearance in the wrong forum because she's no Virgo.
Skimming thru a lot of yalls posts (yours too) I gotta say I don't think you all got it worse than me. I gets moody. Sometimes for no reason. And I wants to be alone ALLLLLL the time. I only socialize when I feel like it. And to ones i know who wont talk my ears off either. Otherwise i turn the other way when i see those talkative types coming my way. So Im convinced this is not only a Virgo thing.
I’d rather not play the “woe is Me” and “who has it worse” game tbh. Moodiness is one thing. But there is a darker energy involved here. A deep sense of loneliness. You’re talking about wanting to be ALONE, virgos don’t really care for being alone. Nor is that what this thread is about. Being alone and being lonely are two different things. And it’s also quite different when the loneliness is brought on by you or by everyone else.
When you say talkative types, what do you mean? Like overly chatty people? Bc i was just saying that it has nothing to do with introvert/extrovert or someone who’s outgoing vs someone who’s shy lmao I think you’ve misunderstood me
Well I play that game. Lonely is when you have no friends, no family life, nobody in your life. Being alone is (like me) simply wanting to be alone and not wanting to be bothered.
And yes that's exactly the kind of talkative people I'm talking about. Those chatty types who likes to talk you to death for a very long time. And it does have a whole hellava lot to do with introverts and extroverts. Introverts should stick to their own kind. Extroverts should stick to their own kinds.
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You like the feeling of being alone though. That is the difference.
You only socialize when you feel like it. Okay. As does everyone, but it truly has nothing to do with who you talk to. Anyone can talk to another. It has more to do with actually connecting with that other person. Both outgoing and shy people can feel lonely in the most crowded rooms, so I don’t think it has anything to do with that.
BUT i see we have some miscommunication here so I don’t think there’s a point in trying to understand where each other is coming from anymore
This virgo thread is so interesting. I feel like I am starting to understand my virgo friends' weird behaviour in the past. I definitely feel like they alienated and distanced themselves a little. They wouldn't want to hang out as much, kind of bad at texting... It's so easy to fall out of touch with them. At the same time, they are not the type you can go months without talking to but you know you're still cool with them. Lol It seems like my virgo friends just come and go. I never thought it was anything I did but I always wondered if there was something I could do.
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
Pisces and Virgo share many qualities tbh
Um yeah I was just replying to her being in the Virgo forum. Giving me the impression that she made her appearance in the wrong forum because she's no Virgo.
Skimming thru a lot of yalls posts (yours too) I gotta say I don't think you all got it worse than me. I gets moody. Sometimes for no reason. And I wants to be alone ALLLLLL the time. I only socialize when I feel like it. And to ones i know who wont talk my ears off either. Otherwise i turn the other way when i see those talkative types coming my way. So Im convinced this is not only a Virgo thing.
I’d rather not play the “woe is Me” and “who has it worse” game tbh. Moodiness is one thing. But there is a darker energy involved here. A deep sense of loneliness. You’re talking about wanting to be ALONE, virgos don’t really care for being alone. Nor is that what this thread is about. Being alone and being lonely are two different things. And it’s also quite different when the loneliness is brought on by you or by everyone else.
When you say talkative types, what do you mean? Like overly chatty people? Bc i was just saying that it has nothing to do with introvert/extrovert or someone who’s outgoing vs someone who’s shy lmao I think you’ve misunderstood me
Well I play that game. Lonely is when you have no friends, no family life, nobody in your life. Being alone is (like me) simply wanting to be alone and not wanting to be bothered.
And yes that's exactly the kind of talkative people I'm talking about. Those chatty types who likes to talk you to death for a very long time. And it does have a whole hellava lot to do with introverts and extroverts. Introverts should stick to their own kind. Extroverts should stick to their own kinds.
You like the feeling of being alone though. That is the difference.
You only socialize when you feel like it. Okay. As does everyone, but it truly has nothing to do with who you talk to. Anyone can talk to another. It has more to do with actually connecting with that other person. Both outgoing and shy people can feel lonely in the most crowded rooms, so I don’t think it has anything to do with that.
BUT i see we have some miscommunication here so I don’t think there’s a point in trying to understand where each other is coming from anymore
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I think it has a lot to do with age tbh. I don't really wanna think this whole situation has anything to do with sun signs. I'm a 47 year old broke down rusty man who has already reached his peak. Theres nothing out there on the streets for me but trouble which is very easy to get into. The older you get the more introverted you'll most likely tend to be. When I was young I was somewhat outgoing with lots of friends (female friends to be exact) who couldn't stand being stuck up in the house. Even in my 20s I was very sexually active and used to have sex outdoors even if it meant doing it behind dumpsters and trailer parks which I have done that occasionally. This is why I don't understand why some of these folks on this site who's in their 20s are introverted still. But I'm not one to judge.
But nonetheless it was a pleasure to have a conversation with you 🙂
Are all of those people either Pisces moon or Virgo sun? I recognize several.
Edit: Duh, I'm in the Virgo forum. *sees self out...
And I almost made my response to this thread until I see yours. I didn't know this was in the Virgo forum either.
Pisces and Virgo share many qualities tbh
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I’m a Pisces with a Virgo moon! Maybe that’s why reading through this thread had me thinking, “oh, I really love Virgos cause I feel like I can relate and definitely enjoy my solitude also.” Lol
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Also, I really admire a lot of those Virgos on this list. Not only do I think Keanu Reeves and Beyonce are absolutely sexy, just everything about them I find super appealing.
Ahh Virgos... I hate that I love them so much.
I barely keep in touch with friends I find it a hassle and prefer to spend time quietly lounging
Some 'friend'you are.
Expecting your 'friends' to always being the ones to keep in touch or to come up with a plan to do something together.
How childish and selfish. You think your friends are your mom and dad, so you can still play the role of little spoiled child.
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I never said I expected them to contact me I don't really care...
The above is just classic immature Virgo behaviour. What a pain in the ass can we be to others and ourselves when young and stupid..
My goodness.
some people invest in friendships and find them important some do not, there's nothing wrong with it
if I was expecting friends to reach out constantly and I was holding it against them that's one thing but to just allow each other to live grown up lives and make time once in a while is fine
you need to relax
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it is super annoying - especially when people can't function in in their daily life with daily people because their head is too big to fit through the door