BadGalVirgo
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Virgo Man wants me to help him clean his house!?!
wow.. that is so weird .. asking you to clean his house? cant he do it by himself?
He wants me to "help" him... We are doing it together...
The Virgo men will offer some of their viewpoints once this thread proceeds with more comments...
But from my experience (my experiences only),
If your intentions are coming from a genuine place, then the outcome is irrelevant.
In other words, I doubt that a Virgo would care one way or another. So attempting to solidify your position by assisting him with his chores will have no merit.
I love taking care of a Virgo, but my mouth is nobody's business. I would stop all the 'good' treatment, if I felt like I was being exploited. But if you ask him, my sassiness is a serious turn-on, and he falls back. No beef there.
Why is he asking you?
It could be due to a myriad of reasons.
Why hasn't he claimed you yet, this could also be due to a myriad of reasons.
Virgo men are loving creatures, but they could also be tricky, if you're not careful.
Don'y modify your position simply to be in sync with his.
Be firm and direct about what you're looking for.
But from my experience (my experiences only),
If your intentions are coming from a genuine place, then the outcome is irrelevant.
In other words, I doubt that a Virgo would care one way or another. So attempting to solidify your position by assisting him with his chores will have no merit.
I love taking care of a Virgo, but my mouth is nobody's business. I would stop all the 'good' treatment, if I felt like I was being exploited. But if you ask him, my sassiness is a serious turn-on, and he falls back. No beef there.
Why is he asking you?
It could be due to a myriad of reasons.
Why hasn't he claimed you yet, this could also be due to a myriad of reasons.
Virgo men are loving creatures, but they could also be tricky, if you're not careful.
Don'y modify your position simply to be in sync with his.
Be firm and direct about what you're looking for.
Posted by CluelessCancer
Intimate, how is cleaning a house intimate..
It was his deceased grandmother's house... Her belongings and such
Posted by PEITHO
Tricky in what way?
It depends on the circumstances,
If he's an un-evolved Virgo, he may play the role of a 'puppet-master.'
Working the side-lines to get the outcome to work in his favor where he solely benefits.
She met him in April. We're in the month of December...going into the month of January.
What's going on?
But the male Virgos will chime in with their responses.
So we will probably get a little more info on her story.
Posted by PEITHO
The part about him giving you his great grandmother's jewelery though is a little confusing things like that are sentimental value. So he must value and think highly of you.
This was the 2nd household cleaning.
Give some of the belongings to her.
Or throw it in the trash.
Careful,
As I stressed earlier with some un-evolved Virgos, tread lightly.
Posted by tiziani
Mutable signs are the most predictable. You just have to know where you stand for yourself, if you wait for them to tell you they will just be disappointed you don't already know.
That's the thing though... He sends mixed signals... I rarely call him as I respect boundaries and give him space to come to me if he so wishes... However I do text him frequently and call him every so often to let him know I al thinking of him... When I text him he responds back sometimes within seconds always... Never over 5 mins to respond to text... When I call he answers but I keep it brief and always let him know I wanted nothing just seeing what he's up to... I have been seeing him since April and I honestly feel that I should not have to wonder where I stand with him if he plans on taking this somewhere other than friendship... Whenever I ask or hint at what this is.. It is always because he asks me to clean his damn house with him... Because I honestly feel if he can't clarify what we are... He should only be asking for my company until he decides what he wishes to do with my company... I told him just now that it seems as though he asks and recieves and gives nothing... Anytime I bring this to his attention he gets mad, says I'm "too much" or i "worry about things that are stupid"... I stand my ground and ignore him... And usually he comes running back texting me or calling me and saying he's not mad... I'm tired of the games and if he knew like I knew... He would know that the virgo woman is the ultimate dumb fox... I will play dumb all the while trying to help him understand that I understand that he is trying to manipulate me... But when I grow tired and his moral character disgusts me to the point of no return... I will do just that... Not return. I do however really like him... As I can't deny how I feel... But I refuse to be used... I just need additional insight to make certain that I'm not tripping here
Don't clean his house ... Looks like he needs a maid more 😢
Posted by TaurusBull1977
The Virgo men will offer some of their viewpoints once this thread proceeds with more comments...
But from my experience (my experiences only),
If your intentions are coming from a genuine place, then the outcome is irrelevant.
In other words, I doubt that a Virgo would care one way or another. So attempting to solidify your position by assisting him with his chores will have no merit.
I love taking care of a Virgo, but my mouth is nobody's business. I would stop all the 'good' treatment, if I felt like I was being exploited. But if you ask him, my sassiness is a serious turn-on, and he falls back. No beef there.
Why is he asking you?
It could be due to a myriad of reasons.
Why hasn't he claimed you yet, this could also be due to a myriad of reasons.
Virgo men are loving creatures, but they could also be tricky, if you're not careful.
Don'y modify your position simply to be in sync with his.
Be firm and direct about what you're looking for.
First time I cleaned it... I told him I needed a dehumidifier and after cleaning his home with him... He gave me one...
Cleaning together is a shared activity after all...
He wants a free maid otherwise he would have to pay someone to clean the house
So many different responses... Lol I always have these "random" outbursts with him... Where I get upset about things like this... I really really like him and don't mind helping.. UNLESS I feel used... I keep explaining to him that I never ask him for anything, yet he asks me for help on things like cleaning or running errands... I can feel that he really likes me... But I also feel like something is up... I don't anticipate a relationship because I cleaned his home... However, I don't want to get emotionally involved and this is just a friendship exercise ;-( lol... I really like him and when I do bring these feelings to his attention I am sure to be humorous and respectful while still getting my point across... I mean we barely go out or do things anymore... He sometimes goes out of his way to make in clear that we are not in a relationship but then he turns around and wants to do relationship shit like this... Which is more beneficial to him than me!!
Posted by CluelessCancer
Why don't you just go the opposite of your fears?
Being used is a matter of perception....I think cleaning the house will bring you guys closer...the more time one spends with another person the more closer they get
Don't help clean his house if you have expectations or have ulterior motives.
Do help clean his house if you want to be of help and have the time.
Do let him know how you're looking for a commitment not from him per se, but in general
Do date other men while he marinates on that
Yea, I do have the time and would love to help him... Maybe i am overthinking things... I am very old fashioned in when I like one guy that is pretty much the only guy I date... I do have friends but he isy main focus without knowing... I know he really really likes me to because sometimes we can barely look at one another without smiling or just getting all anxious... He is just so vague and general that sometimes I feel as though he is hiding something... He often plays love songs when we are together and I wonder if these are hints about how he feels about me... The other night.. I awoke half-sleep to him stroking my hair and often times after being intimate he will look at me in wonder and amazement like I'm some alien... But a good alien lol... Then he goes back to sending me mixed signals like not calling when he says he will and just doing the bare minimum to have me around...
Posted by magma
I can't relate to the OP's situation. My wife and I have been exclusive since our first one-on-one, and it was full speed ahead, like a blur from that point on, so being in a relationship since April and not knowing where it stands sounds bad to me. House cleaning is considered intimate? Do you hold hands yet? After 8-9 months, you have to be told whether or not you're exclusive, or if there's another woman? After this amount of time, you can't talk about your relationship?
If this indicates an unevolved man, and it certainly may, what about the other half?
This is exactly how I feel and why I am refusing to clean his home. Knowing him since April, these things shouldn't even be being discussed at this point... I should know where we stand by how he treats me!! But he treats this like nothing ot feels... So maybe I should just pull the plug on this friendship all together... 8-9 months and it feels like we are regressing instead of progressing.
This isn't about cleaning or not cleaning his house.
You want something and he ain't offering. He hasn't done the exclusive thing because he doesn't want to and/or doesn't need to. He knows you're not going anywhere and knows you like him hence the minimum effort from his side. Virgo likes to be of service in general. If you want to help him then help him, just don't expect something you're unlikely to get. If you can get something from him you want, like a dehumidifier, then great. My ex Virgo was not great at expressing emotions and it would take him time to warm up. He'd feel more comfortable doing things for me to help me out.
If he's not stepping up then step out.
You want something and he ain't offering. He hasn't done the exclusive thing because he doesn't want to and/or doesn't need to. He knows you're not going anywhere and knows you like him hence the minimum effort from his side. Virgo likes to be of service in general. If you want to help him then help him, just don't expect something you're unlikely to get. If you can get something from him you want, like a dehumidifier, then great. My ex Virgo was not great at expressing emotions and it would take him time to warm up. He'd feel more comfortable doing things for me to help me out.
If he's not stepping up then step out.
Posted by AgentP911
This isn't about cleaning or not cleaning his house.
You want something and he ain't offering. He hasn't done the exclusive thing because he doesn't want to and/or doesn't need to. He knows you're not going anywhere and knows you like him hence the minimum effort from his side. Virgo likes to be of service in general. If you want to help him then help him, just don't expect something you're unlikely to get. If you can get something from him you want, like a dehumidifier, then great. My ex Virgo was not great at expressing emotions and it would take him time to warm up. He'd feel more comfortable doing things for me to help me out.
If he's not stepping up then step out.
That is dead on. I'm just going to step out... I told I could never lose something I never had. Every time I walk away he comes back texting or calling ... I'm not falling for it. Like I said we should be beyond this by now... I don't feel comfortable cleaning or doing anyone for someone that doesn't have the respect for me to tell it like it is... At that point we are not even "friends" merely people co-existing on earth breathing the same air lol... I blocked both his numbers and I'm sticking to my guns. He can get lost, I don't deserve this and we are too old for this type of behavior. Lol smh... Wish him well though _??_
I noticed when I go quiet with my ex Virgo (I do contract work for him sometimes so still in contact) he 'panics' as he can't read me and doesn't know what's going on or what I'm thinking. He used to be like this while we were together. I do it more now to keep distance and put in boundaries to remain professional. I've also noticed the 'being of service' bit too so now I've learnt to let him do things for me to help me such as sorting out a deal on a new car. Why do it myself when he can do it and do a good job of it? If it makes him happy and I get it done then so be it. I used to worry about things being 'balanced' so if he did something for me then I'd feel I want/have to do something for him in return (not sexual). Now I don't worry about that as it doesn't really work with him, as long as I appreciate his help and say thank you then that's all that's needed.
My point to you is by backing off and being out of reach might prompt him to notice you're no longer there.
It might not prompt him to declare his undying love for you as he either feels it for you or he doesn't but perhaps by you pulling back it might help you to deal with the situation better and put you on a better footing.
Perhaps he should be cleaning your house!! 😉
The house cleaning thing might just be that he needs it done but doesn't want to face it himself alone but if you've already cleaned it once then it's his fault for making it dirty again!
If it was a family member or good friend you did not have feelings for then you wouldn't hesitate to help or certainly you wouldn't be raising the question.
I helped another ex Scorpio of mine (we were friends really, he was more like an older brother) clean his house as it was a PROPER shit hole and I was just sick of it but there were no issues or feelings or expectations involved plus he helped me out with other things so the balance was there.
My point to you is by backing off and being out of reach might prompt him to notice you're no longer there.
It might not prompt him to declare his undying love for you as he either feels it for you or he doesn't but perhaps by you pulling back it might help you to deal with the situation better and put you on a better footing.
Perhaps he should be cleaning your house!! 😉
The house cleaning thing might just be that he needs it done but doesn't want to face it himself alone but if you've already cleaned it once then it's his fault for making it dirty again!
If it was a family member or good friend you did not have feelings for then you wouldn't hesitate to help or certainly you wouldn't be raising the question.
I helped another ex Scorpio of mine (we were friends really, he was more like an older brother) clean his house as it was a PROPER shit hole and I was just sick of it but there were no issues or feelings or expectations involved plus he helped me out with other things so the balance was there.
Posted by AgentP911
I noticed when I go quiet with my ex Virgo (I do contract work for him sometimes so still in contact) he 'panics' as he can't read me and doesn't know what's going on or what I'm thinking. He used to be like this while we were together. I do it more now to keep distance and put in boundaries to remain professional. I've also noticed the 'being of service' bit too so now I've learnt to let him do things for me to help me such as sorting out a deal on a new car. Why do it myself when he can do it and do a good job of it? If it makes him happy and I get it done then so be it. I used to worry about things being 'balanced' so if he did something for me then I'd feel I want/have to do something for him in return (not sexual). Now I don't worry about that as it doesn't really work with him, as long as I appreciate his help and say thank you then that's all that's needed.
My point to you is by backing off and being out of reach might prompt him to notice you're no longer there.
It might not prompt him to declare his undying love for you as he either feels it for you or he doesn't but perhaps by you pulling back it might help you to deal with the situation better and put you on a better footing.
Perhaps he should be cleaning your house!! 😉
The house cleaning thing might just be that he needs it done but doesn't want to face it himself alone but if you've already cleaned it once then it's his fault for making it dirty again!
If it was a family member or good friend you did not have feelings for then you wouldn't hesitate to help or certainly you wouldn't be raising the question.
I helped another ex Scorpio of mine (we were friends really, he was more like an older brother) clean his house as it was a PROPER shit hole and I was just sick of it but there were no issues or feelings or expectations involved plus he helped me out with other things so the balance was
Hmmm... You make great points!!! I like to help and am a great cleaner... But I can't help but feel used because he knows that I like him as more than a friend... You are absolutely correct I would clean a house no question... For a real friend... But for a man that I'm sleeping with and supposedly seeing... It would eek me to clean his home so that he may entertain another lady... We are friends so him entertains another lady technically is non of my business... But the simple fact is th
Posted by AgentP911
I noticed when I go quiet with my ex Virgo (I do contract work for him sometimes so still in contact) he 'panics' as he can't read me and doesn't know what's going on or what I'm thinking. He used to be like this while we were together. I do it more now to keep distance and put in boundaries to remain professional. I've also noticed the 'being of service' bit too so now I've learnt to let him do things for me to help me such as sorting out a deal on a new car. Why do it myself when he can do it and do a good job of it? If it makes him happy and I get it done then so be it. I used to worry about things being 'balanced' so if he did something for me then I'd feel I want/have to do something for him in return (not sexual). Now I don't worry about that as it doesn't really work with him, as long as I appreciate his help and say thank you then that's all that's needed.
My point to you is by backing off and being out of reach might prompt him to notice you're no longer there.
It might not prompt him to declare his undying love for you as he either feels it for you or he doesn't but perhaps by you pulling back it might help you to deal with the situation better and put you on a better footing.
Perhaps he should be cleaning your house!! 😉
The house cleaning thing might just be that he needs it done but doesn't want to face it himself alone but if you've already cleaned it once then it's his fault for making it dirty again!
If it was a family member or good friend you did not have feelings for then you wouldn't hesitate to help or certainly you wouldn't be raising the question.
I helped another ex Scorpio of mine (we were friends really, he was more like an older brother) clean his house as it was a PROPER shit hole and I was just sick of it but there were no issues or feelings or expectations involved plus he helped me out with other things so the balance was
Hmmm... You make great points!!! I like to help and am a great cleaner... But I can't help but feel used because he knows that I like him as more than a friend... You are absolutely correct I would clean a house no question... For a real friend... But for a man that I'm sleeping with and supposedly seeing... It would eek me to clean his home so that he may entertain another lady... We are friends so him entertains another lady technically is non of my business... But the simple fact is th
You have to watch quoting on here as it counts towards the word count and will cut off your post.
I wouldn't clean his house either! The lazy shit!
So this man is happy to have sex with you, he knows you like him but continues to please himself, he wants you to clean his house with him, but hasn't 'claimed' you... Nice fella!!
I'm not having a go at you or him. It is what is it.
I guess there's little point in asking him where you stand as you have your answer already.
Ah well, at least you can use your time productively now rather than cleaning some dickheads house!
I wouldn't clean his house either! The lazy shit!
So this man is happy to have sex with you, he knows you like him but continues to please himself, he wants you to clean his house with him, but hasn't 'claimed' you... Nice fella!!
I'm not having a go at you or him. It is what is it.
I guess there's little point in asking him where you stand as you have your answer already.
Ah well, at least you can use your time productively now rather than cleaning some dickheads house!
Hmmm... You make great points!!! I like to help and am a great cleaner... But I can't help but feel used because he knows that I like him as more than a friend... You are absolutely correct I would clean a house no question... For a real friend... But for a man that I'm sleeping with and supposedly seeing... It would eek me to clean his home so that he may entertain another lady... We are friends so him entertains another lady technically is non of my business... But the simple fact is that... If we aren't in a committed relationship and if you are unsure of what you want from me... You should ask NOTHING of me. Just to simply enjoy or be in my company when it is convienient for him... But even that wouldn't work for me... You see now, I am looking at his character and his moral value. I have voiced to him many times that I care for him and like him beyond friends... Yet, he remains aloof and reserved on how he feels or thinks.. But, why ask anything of me? That is selfish... I've had plenty of guys pursue me while seeing him... I often turn the down because I am loyal to him without even knowing... As I told him last night via text... "I am no longer doing things for you and receiving nothing in return. You are willing to accept and receive and give nothing... All the while knowing how I feel for you is at the base of me doing things for you because I do them out out how strongly I feel for you... You are beginning to look like a user and that is so unattractive" he then calls and threatened to put me on his block list which I jokingly said to him... "Well let's have sex one last time, one for the road " lol as I chuckled... He seemed amused and unable to hang up at that point... But I was... He then says "what is the problem, I could ask anyone to clean my house... My aunts, my cousins... Where is this coming from".... He is completely unaware of why I am hurt and that makes me even more frustrated... I'm just emotionally spend on him and as a virgo woman... I give one big chance that invloves multipule little chances if you know what mean... But once I reach the point of no return... I never come back. I have NEVER reconciled with an EX... When I leave ppl it's always permanent. And that's why I try so hard when I am with people because I know myself and I know I only am capable of one shot... I really like this guy... But anyone whom stands to manipulate and use me is not a friend of mines... I look at these men in wonder as they try to manipulate
give one big chance that invloves multipule little chances if you know what mean... But once I reach the point of no return... I never come back. I have NEVER reconciled with an EX... When I leave ppl it's always permanent. And that's why I try so hard when I am with people because I know myself and I know I only am capable of one shot... I really like this guy... But anyone whom stands to manipulate and use me is not a friend of mines... I look at these men in wonder as they try to manipulate me and I know deep down, they know what I say to them is right... They KNOW they are trying to wrong me and usually the run and hide for sometime and try to resurface in my life and then I see the same sadness in their eyes when they realize I wasn't playing and this wasn't like the rest... All my exes have returned for reconciliation Taurus, Virgo, Leo, most recently a Pisces!! Lol... I thought hell would freeze over before he reached back out... But you know what? It felt so good to let them down easy but also know that they now know the secret of a good woman... She may go crazy and seek your approval and try to win your love for a little while... But when she wides up and her love is no more... Only in the absence of that love will he turkey realize what he lost... I'm not perfect.. But it happened every time!! Glad it's ovee before it really got started... Fate is Fate!! _??_
Wise up* and Realize
He knows what's going on. He's not stupid. Glad you're 'stepping out' on him! You've told him the score so what will be will be. Keep us posted on it though as I'm interested and nosey!! :-)
Posted by magma
I can't relate to the OP's situation. My wife and I have been exclusive since our first one-on-one, and it was full speed ahead, like a blur from that point on, so being in a relationship since April and not knowing where it stands sounds bad to me. House cleaning is considered intimate? Do you hold hands yet? After 8-9 months, you have to be told whether or not you're exclusive, or if there's another woman? After this amount of time, you can't talk about your relationship?
If this indicates an unevolved man, and it certainly may, what about the other half?
Thank You! My point exactly!
Posted by BadGalVirgo
... I am very old fashioned in when I like one guy that is pretty much the only guy I date... I do have friends but he isy main focus without knowing...
A conventional woman in a very unconventional set up is ambivalent.
Don't create shaded areas when there is none.
A "jump-off" position is not a class and a title a lady chooses for herself....
But in your case, a title you certainly created for yourself.
You dictate how a man treats you.
He has all the benefits of dealing with you....free booty & a clean house with no commitments.
Posted by tizianiI have stopped sex. Since the last convo on this topicPosted by LadyOfRebirth
Wait so you're worried over being used to help clean a house..
But have no care in him using you for sex..
Very interesting logic there.
The modern world is crazy.click to expand
Posted by tizianiPosted by BadGalVirgoPosted by tiziani
Mutable signs are the most predictable. You just have to know where you stand for yourself, if you wait for them to tell you they will just be disappointed you don't already know.
That's the thing though... He sends mixed signals... I rarely call him as I respect boundaries and give him space to come to me if he so wishes... However I do text him frequently and call him every so often to let him know I al thinking of him... When I text him he responds back sometimes within seconds always... Never over 5 mins to respond to text... When I call he answers but I keep it brief and always let him know I wanted nothing just seeing what he's up to... I have been seeing him since April and I honestly feel that I should not have to wonder where I stand with him if he plans on taking this somewhere other than friendship... Whenever I ask or hint at what this is.. It is always because he asks me to clean his damn house with him... Because I honestly feel if he can't clarify what we are... He should only be asking for my company until he decides what he wishes to do with my company... I told him just now that it seems as though he asks and recieves and gives nothing... Anytime I bring this to his attention he gets mad, says I'm "too much" or i "worry about things that are stupid"... I stand my ground and ignore him... And usually he comes running back texting me or calling me and saying he's not mad... I'm tired of the games and if he knew like I knew... He would know that the virgo woman is the ultimate dumb fox... I will play dumb all the while trying to help him understand that I understand that he is trying to manipulate me... But when I grow tired and his moral character disgusts me to the point of no return... I will do just that... Not return. I do however really like him... As I can't deny how I feel... But I refuse to be used... I just need additional insight to make certain that I'm not tripping hereclick to expand
I don't really understand why you feel used - other than you've make it clear you want a title (if I'm not mistaken) and that much is fair enough.
But you haven't really said much about how you treat each other, what you do in your time toge
Posted by tiziani
*I've seen many couples who commit in words and then treat each other like a spare tyre. That's no more ladylike than someone who is spending their time with a man who treats them well with no "exclusive" talk.
I don't understand why it means so much to you to have the title, but you are right that if that is what you want you should wait for another man to come along who can give you what you want. Can't change this guy.
You make a great point!!! The title means nothing without the actions... The actions mean more.
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Wait so you're worried over being used to help clean a house..
But have no care in him using you for sex..
Very interesting logic there.
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