Men will be Men first....their sign second....

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by SpinCycle on Friday, October 17, 2014 and has 17 replies.

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11 YearsPisces

One thing for certain Men will be Men..sign or no sign. But I have been in contact with some Virgo men and one thing is certain.

There is a player
There is a clinger
There is a evolved one

I have had the player..he had zero clue what he wanted, inconsistent, no conversation, he has a beautiful soul yet is was also a tortured one. I stayed too long on a bunch of lies. He went from women to women saying the same line and then settling when he got tired of his own game. He did that Push/Pull crap perfectly. Which actually means...he isn't that into you. Not that he loves you and wants you to be patient and sitting waiting for him to come around after he goes through what he needs to.......DUMP him there is nothing I repeat nothing you can do for him.

The clinger..was just that..he was lonely..wanted to just settle and marry..didn't even know my name..I was just "baby"...DUMP him.

Now finally an evolved one. He knows what he wants and knew it after we talked for over two weeks just getting to know each other..we met, had a date, and it just confirmed that we were very compatible and a future was worth being worked on. No games and he comes to me..No hot and cold no inconsistencies so far, conversation flows nicely lots of laughs and we are on the same page. So for the moment he is a keeper...I will go slow keep an eye out for any red flags and go from there. We are on our third date. But so far what some have said here is true...when a mature Virgo man knows what he wants he lets it be known and goes after it. (as mature "men" do.)

So for all those here who are "waiting" for their Virgo man to stop that push/pull disappearing act and come a running saying they love you finally...STOP. Men are men first. Any man who wants you 100% will act like it. They will not leave nor put you on pause. Let them go and find a man who will love you now and not when it is convenient for them.

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Posted by Impulsv
It's nice but isn't it always during first three dates.

Truth...

but this one am with is like breath of fresh air. Consistent, communicative and on point with where we stand. I am on guard and I told him so. He said he understood and would try to not rock boats. I am watching....lol

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@SpinCycle
11 YearsPisces

Posted by seraph
Keep in mind that you're applying these labels in the context of romantic relationships (and essentially, *you* and whether these people can/want to meet *your* needs.)

Romantic relationships - and whether whatever one is suited for you in particular - are only one (and a very narrow) aspect of what constitutes an individual and their personality, interests, dreams, and inner life.
In effect, you're imposing value judgments and labels on others insofar as they can fill your own personal voids.

This is obviously a given, in light of your OP, and there's nothing wrong with it; but let's be careful about how broadly we apply these labels and why we're doing it.

Goodness... no need to preach....I am talking about myself hunny...ME...not your and your labels etc...we all have experiences....I am ALLOWED to talk about mine.....if you don't like it pass it by.

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@kissmygrits
14 Years5,000+ PostsCancer

I think she's on to something. I've had the first two. I hope the one I'm going to a scary house with later is an evolved one.

Of course I think everyone wants an evolved person. I would like to hope I've becoming an evolved person.

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@SpinCycle
11 YearsPisces

A man isn't "evolved" because you and he happen to just click. Nor is he "un-evolved" because something in you or about you makes him hesitate, yet he's still motivated to keep giving you a chance. In this case, in his eyes he's trying his best. In your eyes, he's being inconsistent.

Just some things to consider.
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Clicking with a person is just a green light to go further. It's not love nor is it a relationship. Has zero to do with being evolved or not.

A person is evolved when he is mature and able to be emotionally ready for a relationship and all it entails. An evolved person can accept another unconditionally. An evolved person does not lie, cheat, play games, run/disappear due to "feelings" They have an ability to work things out in a manner that isn't emotionally charged. A person who embraces growth within himself and his partner. Evolved means to develop gradually, from a simple to a more complex form ..... from immature to mature....Evolved people are rare.

If someone is doing something to make them hesitate with moving forward with another...then they should speak on it. No one mind reads. Communication is vital..evolved people know this and use this tool very well. Visa versa if the partner sees inconsistencies then they should speak on it.

Just some other things to consider....

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@P-Angel
21 Years25,000+ PostsPisces

And I also think this is a perfect example of a delusional woman.

She says - a man who wants you 100% will act like it - then she says that she holds back because she isn't certain yet.

So, this means that the women is double standard by rights.

And that's utter bullshit.

Pretty much you are basing men across the board according to your satisfaction ... and it sounds like you are pretty self-centered ... so your judgment doesn't hold much

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@LetltB
13 Years5,000+ Posts

Interesting comments here.

@Spincycle...I know a lot of Virgos. You are correct. Doesn't matter what sign a man is..if he is immature he will act immature and unevolved (they are all over dxp).

Sounds like you got yourself a man with his shit together and past the boy stage.

Congratulations.

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Posted by SpinCycle
Posted by seraph
Keep in mind that you're applying these labels in the context of romantic relationships (and essentially, *you* and whether these people can/want to meet *your* needs.)

Romantic relationships - and whether whatever one is suited for you in particular - are only one (and a very narrow) aspect of what constitutes an individual and their personality, interests, dreams, and inner life.
In effect, you're imposing value judgments and labels on others insofar as they can fill your own personal voids.

This is obviously a given, in light of your OP, and there's nothing wrong with it; but let's be careful about how broadly we apply these labels and why we're doing it.

Goodness... no need to preach....I am talking about myself hunny...ME...not your and your labels etc...we all have experiences....I am ALLOWED to talk about mine.....if you don't like it pass it by.

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Excellent response too. 😉

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Posted by P-Angel

And I also think this is a perfect example of a delusional woman.

She says - a man who wants you 100% will act like it - then she says that she holds back because she isn't certain yet.

So, this means that the women is double standard by rights.

And that's utter bullshit.

Pretty much you are basing men across the board according to your satisfaction ... and it sounds like you are pretty self-centered ... so your judgment doesn't hold much

Let me repeat for folks who have no comprehension..this is based off of ME and what I have found so far.... as everyone else who writes on these forums...not you, P Angel who has been married forever per you. Now when you are single and dating, P Angel..speak to me. Other than that..you have zero clue on what is out here this day and and age. Talk about delusional. Have a seat.

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Posted by GoingDutch
"waves" at SilverScorpio, happy early Halloween to you!
I just wanna say, I love Scorpio, all the male + female Scorpio I know in my life are all GOOD people, great characters, overall very pleasant, and that include the ghetto Scorpio here in my area too, LOL.

🙂 *Waves back* Hey there! Back at you! I hope all is well with you. And adore the Piscean females as well! They are sensitive and kind with a good heart. Here's to you and the Scorpio where you're at!