Virgo Women vs Capricorn Women (re: men) (Page 2)

Posted by CLCNY30
You're answering your own question. I'm not sure what else to tell you.

How about we try this--you seem to give off a vibe that you think you know an underlying reason for starting this thread. How about you throw it out there and we can go from there?

Because, at this point, you're on a wild goose chase.

Posted by CLCNY30
You're answering your own question. I'm not sure what else to tell you.

How about we try this--you seem to give off a vibe that you think you know an underlying reason for starting this thread. How about you throw it out there and we can go from there?

Because, at this point, you're on a wild goose chase.

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wanting to understand our virgo nature

the relationship aspect is what you were trying to address with this thread

but to find the subconscious driver for desiring to compare relationship aspects to find similarities/differences

dont really see what the difficulty in answering the question, especially since we are virgo

from the nature of the response - it can be suggested that you arent in touch, have control, or developed your subconscious to know the underlying motive

reason being you would prefer someone else to guess what you are subconsciously thinking rather than provide the details to explain it yourself

it might be important when your duty as a parent is to explain life to your kids

Zeo, I like finding differences and similiarities in things--cultures, age groups, and yes--even zodiac signs.

For example, I like comparing Cancers to Pisces, and finding similarities and differences, helps me to understand the main ties between the two signs, especially considering that they are both water based.

It's just observation/understanding based. I started the thread to get both a Virgo and Cap perspective on things tolerated in a relationship by both signs--and the reasons I posted on the Virgo board were because I'm comfortable posting here, and I know a lot of Caps do venture over.

Aww..comeon man, I love playing the 'why' game....we could have kept on going and keep on saying whatever answer until he gets frustrated that he didn't get the answer he wanted or just overwhelmed that we keep saying the same thing over and over.

come on CLC...get on board.

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
Aww..comeon man, I love playing the 'why' game....we could have kept on going and keep on saying whatever answer until he gets frustrated that he didn't get the answer he wanted or just overwhelmed that we keep saying the same thing over and over.

come on CLC...get on board.

lmfao

Posted by CLCNY30
Zeo, I like finding differences and similiarities in things--cultures, age groups, and yes--even zodiac signs.

For example, I like comparing Cancers to Pisces, and finding similarities and differences, helps me to understand the main ties between the two signs, especially considering that they are both water based.

It's just observation/understanding based. I started the thread to get both a Virgo and Cap perspective on things tolerated in a relationship by both signs--and the reasons I posted on the Virgo board were because I'm comfortable posting here, and I know a lot of Caps do venture over.

that is really obvious (not because you've been repeating it all the time) but the problem is you may not understand the question because you didnt think deeply enough about it. or maybe you dont want to let other virgo see why you like to make comparisons - then the rest of us virgo cannot understand this aspect if its in our personality too. if you really dont want to provide insight, just say so. there's less shame in admitting unwilling to be transparent than actually being cloudy and evasive. otherwise you'll get accused of being too libra and then the rest of us virgo will be placed in the same boat - thats unfair

Posted by TheBeautifulStruggle
Aww..comeon man, I love playing the 'why' game....we could have kept on going and keep on saying whatever answer until he gets frustrated that he didn't get the answer he wanted or just overwhelmed that we keep saying the same thing over and over.

come on CLC...get on board.

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i dont get frustrated - i'm a virgo too

in doing so you'd have every other sign accusing the rest of us virgo of being petty rather than provide an explanation

Posted by 25thDecan
Um zeo...you overanalyzed her in your second sentence in your last post, dude. Conversation started....she posed the comparison out of curiousity...and your delving like a pisces for something you've convinced yourself is there. Virgo to virgo...you're reading too much into it and critiquing because she...and the other coherent women who commented aren't. It's like a sports discussion. Say your piece and go from there. It's not a "say your piece and demand the underlying substance of it all"....you're trying to draw something out of her that's based on YOUR assumption she has something to hide or motive to the contrary.

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Disclaimer: we're both virgos...be careful..VERY careful in how you percieve what I just typed. And welcome to the board btw.

no need to worry, this virgo is objective as virgo can be. after all, we virgo are merely mirrors for self reflection and reflection for others

of course there is an underlying reason, virgo logic dictates everything happens for a reason

even sports discussions make me want to test theories for proof of concept, isnt that what you do?

i thought other virgo can better understand virgo if we reductively go to the functional unit (reason)

Posted by 25thDecan
Cee...thx for this thread, I understand both cappy women even better now. They shall remain deleted. I'm a GIVING man in a relationship and as a person. Those two women would prefer to be given to, while remaining reserved to determine if the man IS someone they'd even consider sharing themselves with. I cannot do that with someone ever again...it led to me being abused, abandoned and broken.(yeah, women us guys get HURT too *rolls eyes). I feel so much better. I think I dodged a bullet. Cap women and scorp women...stay away. Reciprocity is NOT in a capricorn's or scorpion's mind....at least not the ones I run into. And, considering I'm in the deep South I admit that THAT has a bit to do with it but my heart needs protecting, not a beating and I'm too genuine of a person to need to convince a woman that it's much better to dance with her man than throw stones from her throne to see if he catches them. *shrugs

Lonely life for a good dude.

Aww, sorry you feel that way about Capricorn and Scorpios. I know for some of us Cappies, it just take a while for us to trust and really open up, that's all. Do you know how many games are played these days by everyone? Men don't "seem" to fight for women anymore, nor will a guy look at a woman and think to himself *this is the woman I want to be with for the rest of my life.* If they do, they become so easily discouraged they eventually give up, and then it's on to the next and I don't want to feel like a woman that's on an assembly line.

All a Capricorn woman wants is a man that will never give up on her. If we sense that you aren't cut for the loyalty and trust we need then we simply cannot give our all. Believe it or not, we want our relationships to last, and we want someone that will be there for us during our good and bad. Maybe the bad involves a test or two, or a bit of coldness, moodiness etc. but we want you to break through the shell and believe we are worth it. Some guys may feel they have to do too much to be with Cappie women, but personally, I always feel guys give up too soon on me and fight more for other women. I could definitely see how this is too much for most men, but it is what it is.

Posted by 25thDecan
Cee...thx for this thread, I understand both cappy women even better now. They shall remain deleted. I'm a GIVING man in a relationship and as a person. Those two women would prefer to be given to, while remaining reserved to determine if the man IS someone they'd even consider sharing themselves with. I cannot do that with someone ever again...it led to me being abused, abandoned and broken.(yeah, women us guys get HURT too *rolls eyes). I feel so much better. I think I dodged a bullet. Cap women and scorp women...stay away. Reciprocity is NOT in a capricorn's or scorpion's mind....at least not the ones I run into. And, considering I'm in the deep South I admit that THAT has a bit to do with it but my heart needs protecting, not a beating and I'm too genuine of a person to need to convince a woman that it's much better to dance with her man than throw stones from her throne to see if he catches them. *shrugs

Lonely life for a good dude.

lol--come on now--you can't block scorps, and caps, and whatever else based on a bad encounter with a few.
Caps are awesome, have you ever had a genuine good sit down with one— Just a good heart-to-heart, they get Virgos SO well. People pick on them the way they do our sign too, so they really do understand what we're going through, and give incredible advice.

Reciprocity is most def. in every Cap I've known. I've just found (zeo, this might help??) that they tend to take a LOT of abuse, and I wondered if it was just my observation, or if others saw it (hope that helped?)

What signs do you really get along with, decan? What signs could you see yourself settling down with?

Posted by 25thDecan
Um zeo...you overanalyzed her in your second sentence in your last post, dude. Conversation started....she posed the comparison out of curiousity...and your delving like a pisces for something you've convinced yourself is there. Virgo to virgo...you're reading too much into it and critiquing because she...and the other coherent women who commented aren't. It's like a sports discussion. Say your piece and go from there. It's not a "say your piece and demand the underlying substance of it all"....you're trying to draw something out of her that's based on YOUR assumption she has something to hide or motive to the contrary.

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This is perfect. Ty Decan.

Zeo, not sure how else to explain it to you, but do be careful not to project your own assumptions on people.

I'm pretty honest about my feelings on this site, never held my tongue on anything, but if you are indeed new you wouldn't know that, so let me assure you--if I disliked Capricorns, I'd have said so from the beginning. Far from the case, and as far as thinking Virgos are superior, bullocks--I've downed our sign many a time on this forum, and even admitted that I've not gotten along with Virgos as a whole, until I met a few really sweet Virgos on this site.

Not sure what else you want to hear, Zeo, but I will not be addressing your incessant "whys" anymore. It's, quite honestly, giving me stalker-type bad shivers...

Posted by CLCNY30

This is perfect. Ty Decan.

Zeo, not sure how else to explain it to you, but do be careful not to project your own assumptions on people.

I'm pretty honest about my feelings on this site, never held my tongue on anything, but if you are indeed new you wouldn't know that, so let me assure you--if I disliked Capricorns, I'd have said so from the beginning. Far from the case, and as far as thinking Virgos are superior, bullocks--I've downed our sign many a time on this forum, and even admitted that I've not gotten along with Virgos as a whole, until I met a few really sweet Virgos on this site.

Not sure what else you want to hear, Zeo, but I will not be addressing your incessant "whys" anymore. It's, quite honestly, giving me stalker-type bad shivers...

queries arent assumptions

assumption is the end of the line - like your stalker assumption haha. i mean seriously - that provides me enough information as it is

queries need exploration and testing

you dont need to say anymore, there are other chances to understand our virgo nature other than here. also it just gives opportunity to others like that libra that remarked resulting in stereotyping all virgo to be the same

And what was exhibited on your end gives others the opportunity to understand that you seem to project a lot, and would like to put words in other people's mouths. Also, if they don't say what you imagine they should, or what you'd like to hear, you throw a sort of scary tantrum.

Kudos on being as objective as you've labeled yourself, but you might want to work on being accepting of others and their words, and understanding of situations that are not what you imagine them to be.

And, if you really wanted to understand my mindset more, you'd have perused my other threads to see that I say what I mean/mean what I say, instead of coming at me for a slight imagined in your mind. Seems more introspection of yourself and less judgement of others is needed on your end.

Posted by 25thDecan
Cee...I don't see myself with any sign. Just some chick who won't get out of these recurring dreams I have. Lnana....I understand about fighting for a woman...but after all I've been through, is there someone who would do that for me? No. If there was then I wouldn't run into these cap women who'd love to be "fought for" but would leave all the pain to me. I'm sick of the hurt at the hands of many. *shrug I always thought id be alone in life romantically anyway so it's not all bad.

Cap women fight to the DEATH for their men. I'm tellin' you, they will cut anyone who insults their SO's. They are VERY loyal, so much so that (as I said in this thread) they seem to even be able to stay in abusive relationships, so as not to just up and walk away, and that may come off to people like myself as unecessary, but to them (Cappy at work broke it down for me) is a fear of change, and of putting time and effort into something that they're just gonna walk away from like it's nothing--when it's the world to them. You'll see, Decan--you'll meet a Cap real soon that will have you coming back to hide what you said about them in here, LOL 😛 Hang in there

Posted by CLCNY30
And what was exhibited on your end gives others the opportunity to understand that you seem to project a lot, and would like to put words in other people's mouths. Also, if they don't say what you imagine they should, or what you'd like to hear, you throw a sort of scary tantrum.

Kudos on being as objective as you've labeled yourself, but you might want to work on being accepting of others and their words, and understanding of situations that are not what you imagine them to be.

i only pointed out that there is a reason for liking to compare capricorn and virgo in relationships, sorry for pointing out the obvious but there's no intention to use hypnotic suggestion - the intention really is to allow other virgo to understand that this characteristic does present itself in virgo. so i dont see how that isnt objective

i'm a virgo - i dont throw tantrums or get frustrated

Posted by CLCNY30
And, if you really wanted to understand my mindset more, you'd have perused my other threads to see that I say what I mean/mean what I say, instead of coming at me for a slight imagined in your mind. Seems more introspection of yourself and less judgement of others is needed on your end.

its a lot to analyse when i'm interested understand this characteristic being found in virgo

let me demonstrate by example

i am interested in the reason that you didnt provide because if i want to have virgo kids, i can be well aware of the virgo spectrum and prepare. i want to be a good parent that can explain

virgo is judgement based on analysis to discover

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Posted by CLCNY30
And what was exhibited on your end gives others the opportunity to understand that you seem to project a lot, and would like to put words in other people's mouths. Also, if they don't say what you imagine they should, or what you'd like to hear, you throw a sort of scary tantrum.

Kudos on being as objective as you've labeled yourself, but you might want to work on being accepting of others and their words, and understanding of situations that are not what you imagine them to be.

i only pointed out that there is a reason for liking to compare capricorn and virgo in relationships, sorry for pointing out the obvious but there's no intention to use hypnotic suggestion - the intention really is to allow other virgo to understand that this characteristic does present itself in virgo. so i dont see how that isnt objective

i'm a virgo - i dont throw tantrums or get frustrated

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There were definitely temper tantrums thrown by you in here. I answered your question, and you kept throwing yourself on the floor to pound your fists and flail your feet. It didn't seem to be enough for you.

And you seem to be feeling yourself, and "your" sign, a little too much.

You do not represent all Virgos. Sorry to be the one to tell you that.

Virgos get frustrated all the time, are you for real? If you want to lie to yourself, that's cool, but I will be the first to point out that Virgos can throw supreme hissys, so who's lying to themselves now?

You go ahead and lie to yourself about the sign...I'm going to keep it real though.

The mere fact that you couldn't accept my very elaborate answers, and repeatedly attacked me with "why? why? why?" and tried to explain that away as being a Virgo, and how a Virgo acts, tells me you do not understand the sign anywhere near as much as you think you do.

Might want to stop using a mirror to gather your information on Virgo, and start LISTENING to OTHER Virgos as well.

We exist too. But you're not hearing me (-_-) carry on, I'll just be over here ----> watching tv.

Enjoy.

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Posted by 25thDecan
Cee...I don't see myself with any sign. Just some chick who won't get out of these recurring dreams I have. Lnana....I understand about fighting for a woman...but after all I've been through, is there someone who would do that for me? No. If there was then I wouldn't run into these cap women who'd love to be "fought for" but would leave all the pain to me. I'm sick of the hurt at the hands of many. *shrug I always thought id be alone in life romantically anyway so it's not all bad.

Cap women fight to the DEATH for their men. I'm tellin' you, they will cut anyone who insults their SO's. They are VERY loyal, so much so that (as I said in this thread) they seem to even be able to stay in abusive relationships, so as not to just up and walk away, and that may come off to people like myself as unecessary, but to them (Cappy at work broke it down for me) is a fear of change, and of putting time and effort into something that they're just gonna walk away from like it's nothing--when it's the world to them. You'll see, Decan--you'll meet a Cap real soon that will have you coming back to hide what you said about them in here, LOL 😛 Hang in there

No. I don't see it happening and I wouldn't change what I've said. If any woman did love me later, shed look and understand what I was going through....but maybe I should make a thread about it...the feeling of seeing the future and knowing at least part of your destiny. Why should I be on hand and foot in the beginning for someone who'd wait till LATER to even show me it was worth it? Why torment someone if there's a connection? Because there was none. I'm cemented. But I digress, too much off topic.

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I say make your thread. Will give those trying to help you understand a chance to possibly explain to you/help you see the other side, you know? Go for it.

Posted by CLCNY30


There were definitely temper tantrums thrown by you in here. I answered your question, and you kept throwing yourself on the floor to pound your fists and flail your feet. It didn't seem to be enough for you.

And you seem to be feeling yourself, and "your" sign, a little too much.

You do not represent all Virgos. Sorry to be the one to tell you that.

Virgos get frustrated all the time, are you for real? If you want to lie to yourself, that's cool, but I will be the first to point out that Virgos can throw supreme hissys, so who's lying to themselves now?

You go ahead and lie to yourself about the sign...I'm going to keep it real though.

The mere fact that you couldn't accept my very elaborate answers, and repeatedly attacked me with "why? why? why?" and tried to explain that away as being a Virgo, and how a Virgo acts, tells me you do not understand the sign anywhere near as much as you think you do.

Might want to stop using a mirror to gather your information on Virgo, and start LISTENING to OTHER Virgos as well.

We exist too. But you're not hearing me (-_-) carry on, I'll just be over here ----> watching tv.

Enjoy.

sorry for desiring more than a basic and obvious depth of answer - i am a virgo - i like to see how things work. the mechanism is so important

i admit that i will get frustrated as a virgo if someone has put something out of order so i cannot find it - but i really dont get frustrated otherwise. frustration is counter productive, so if i ever can sense a process will have this element in there, i can recognise it early to counter it. frustration is often used as a tool in confrontation - it works extremely effectively

yes i've listened to you, maybe its difficult for some people to understand there is a reason for liking to compare.

so without an answer, i can suggest a possibility if you're a little shy of criticism. based on my own personality, is it because you want to differentiate instead of integrate? then that makes me wonder why is there a desire to differentiate? then i think that there is no point in calling virgo and capricorn if there was no difference. it would just be called virgocorn

but then again i am not you so i wouldnt know, just a personal guess, trying to test to discover

Posted by 25thDecan
Na. Nevermind. I'm good. I'll live. Need a beer and some strippers. Lmao

Awww, lol! Come on, it's a good idea. Me thinks you're afraid there's gonna be a scorp or cap that's going to come in and make you wonder if you maybe COULD... 😉

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Posted by CLCNY30

Posted by 25thDecan
Na. Nevermind. I'm good. I'll live. Need a beer and some strippers. Lmao

Awww, lol! Come on, it's a good idea. Me thinks you're afraid there's gonna be a scorp or cap that's going to come in and make you wonder if you maybe COULD... 😉

Not that deep. I have no fear of being alone nor fear of anything else except my temper. Lol I'm good. Better people are going through WAY more important matters. I need to see it for what it is and move forward to find peace elsewhere. Does love contain peace? All the peace I desire? Or can it be attained/realized through some other means, dig? A really good person once told me "go where you're wanted, not where the pain keeps coming back. Change that cycle."

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I understand. I still think loves going to find you when you've just about given up on it though.

Hold up ya'll!!! STop typing on your keyboards!!!


There IS a REASON THIS THREAD, EXISTS...CLCYNY must have dropped it somewhere and Zeoblade is determined to find it.

Don't move!! Don't post anything else until Zeo, is able to throughly analyze this thread, look under every article, comb every declarative statement...until it is found!

Please stay extra still while this process is going on, or perhaps view another thread. Zeoblade is ON the case!

wanting to understand our virgo nature

the relationship aspect is what you were trying to address with this thread

but to find the subconscious driver for desiring to compare relationship aspects to find similarities/differences

dont really see what the difficulty in answering the question, especially since we are virgo

from the nature of the response - it can be suggested that you arent in touch, have control, or developed your subconscious to know the underlying motive

reason being you would prefer someone else to guess what you are subconsciously thinking rather than provide the details to explain it yourself

it might be important when your duty as a parent is to explain life to your kids



@Zeoblade,what should I gather from your tone about your statements here.What are YOUR underlying motives,beside getting your questions answered??Hmmmmm??I understand that you are getting your feet wet here,however ,this is part of the Virgo female package,not to back away from you or all hail our man because,just because he's here breathing our air.Are you sure you want a Virgo?? If CL just gave a statement,then asked if you agree or not,then most people would either give a thumbs up,thumbs down or post something totally random.We then wouldn't explore any type of mindsets ,feelings or experiences to delve into the the particular topic at hand.We would have a less likely chance of seeing whether a topic would be best understood/viewed through a Virgo/non-Virgo or woman/man perspective.And p.s. you never did give your opinion of the situation in this thread !?!