Why I can't stand Brahn0913 (Page 2)

Prime, "The person who has lived it has the experience, the others are just talking about something they really know nothing about."

WOW Prime, that was a very fair way to put it, very nice 😉

Tons and Tons of Jewish people supported Hitler.

What we focus on grows. Instead of posting a bunch of negative, hateful stereo-types, if this is how Branh truly feels, why doesn't he have compassion for his race/others and suggest/work towards bettering their situation?

Instead, he posts a bunch of unproductive hate.

I don't believe he feels this way. He is an attention-whore and it is easy for him to get attention by posting negative things, so he does.

"Tons and Tons of Jewish people supported Hitler."

Okay, this is starting to get way toooooo ugly for a topic that is honestly about as silly as a yellow-belly chipmunk. 😉

Honestly, if you don't like something just debate about it. Bad talking and belittle someone is unnecessary and quite immature. You don't know him ... he doesn't know any of you ... so why on earth is anyone offended.

If you have a problem, state it and discuss. Such banters filled with trifles start becoming exhausting after a while.

**** so why no try to date the superior race that has more going on for them?

^^^^

**** Black people shouldn't date black people, because they'll breed and have more incompetent black children.

^^^^^

sounds pretty hateful to me. also sounds pretty racist.

Hate and racism are ugly topics cappy. Hate and racism ARE and SHOULD be offensive.

I don't care how much people sugar-coat it **THAT** is what is going on.

Why does it matter what colour my skin is? Wrong is Wrong.

*** Oh that's right, you do, did he call it hate? I don't recall him saying that.

Pedophiles don't think they are doing anything wrong either so does that make child abuse any better Prime? No it doesn't.

I was using parallel logic to exaggerate the point Prime.

*** You are practicing misandry as well.

huh? where?

I haven't said anything about men in this whole thread.


*** Can't you debate an issue in the whole or do you just pick and choose only that which you can warp to fit your agenda?

People said he wasn't being racist. I pulled out two quotes I thought were quite racist.

Why am I not allowed to post my opinion Prime? What is my agenda? I would love to hear that.

Prime,

It use to get uglier then this? Yikes, I'm glad I came with I did then. Think you for informing me 🙂

But what's wrong with a healthy debate? I get the feeling that some unmensionables want to cause trouble ... not get answers. This is going to turn into a senseless banter, not a debate. It's going to consist of bashing a user who was misinterpreted because he was being P.C. 😢 I have seen some users use certain slurs against other users along with APPLYING the sterotypes.

The only thing Branh did was state his opinion along with REFERENCING sterotypes and he gets slamed (—??). That's really double standard, don't you think ?

OMG, now one user is mensioning issues like Hitler, child abuse and some other shyt (excuse my semi-profanity). Nope, that's not my 'cup of tea' at all 😉

Prime, "You have pulled Branhs sentences out of their content, this is misinforming people of what he said because you can form what ever opinion you want off a sound bit, it is the entire thread that is what you need to take as a whole"

Yeah, a few users are doing that. Why ——— 😢 Entrapment, here we go ..........

People said he wasn't being racist. I pulled out two quotes I thought were quite racist.

little sparrow,

The way you choose to present your point was much better than the rest. However, he also stated on this threas that he typed that because he wanted to add humor. He did admit that he was just joking ...... 🙂 I think it's on page 2 or 3 .......

lol!

look at the heading of this topic. We are actually talking about Brahn and whether or not his post was offensive which is why I am posting about Brahn. It has nothing to do with hatred of men.

I said yes. You say no.

C'est la vie.

I only post on one or two boards. I don't even read all the threads on those. This one happened to catch my eye.

FWIW, IRL, I speak out against hatred of men ALL THE TIME. I speak out against hatred in general.

I truly believe in equality among all people. Not that I don't make mistakes myself ... and do not need to grow myself as well .... but it is something I aspire too.

Ummmm it is parallel logic .... exaggerating the flaw in your logic by showing a parallel argument.

You said he didn't say it was hateful therefore it isn't hateful. I used a parallel argument saying child molesters don't think they are bad therefore they aren't bad.

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with this technique.

Prime,

Yeah, that's what got me, the mension of Hitler and child abuse. I could see if this was a topic about a subject concerning a seriuous matter concerning those two matters. But since this is a topic about an individual ... connecting those elements just seems ... not to good. There is nothing about what Branh has stated that should connect him with such matters.

...... sign .....

"But you see, if this IS really about Branh, why bring up symbols that are known to be hot buttons, issues that have nothing to do with Branh, so really you are not using parallel logic"

That's the way I see it. This is about a man, not some argument topic ......... WOW, I hope Branh doesn't reply, this is strictly a bashing ... not a debate 😢 ~sign~

Harmony people, Harmony .....

sb, you are right maybe he should ... but he already responded and stated what he felt (——)

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sb, you are the greatest. That message came from the Aqua, WE were involved in that discussion 🙂 That's counterattack was definately needed 😉

Yeah, have a GOOD debate ... not a senseless banter.

http://dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=287872<BR>

^^Might explain why he says things so blantanly.


Heres one post on the interacial dating stuff and racism since the better version of it got deleted,figures when someone gets too close to the truth...:


http://dxpnet.com/opinion/message/?id=297379<BR>

If you "need" to know where I disagree with him,its on different cultures.Most americans of all races consider themselves the superior culture just because they don't know what really happens in other cultures,they don't want to learn and even when they move to different countries its a different story.I agree with him about people coming here to assimulate into the mainstream but native americans shouldn't since that culture was not native here and they didn't assimulate to ours so thats a contradiction to agree with that about one culture.Also most of the everyday things are taken and learned from natives anyways.Oatmeal for skin ointment,medicines,how to even grow food,basic survival here,etc.so its not all europeans culture thats really the "superior" one when talking about american culture which isn't in many history books😉

Also america is a joke to begin with when it refers to "culture",this ein't no culture.Culture is having beliefs,a language,foods,etc. of thier own,everything that makes up this so called "culture" is taken from elsewhere and is rather cheap.Ask any actual cultured Irish person what they think of our St.Pattys day,we're nothin but a bunch of wannabes here until we get off our asses and get our own!

Darn it! I'm doing stats, so I can't look up info at the moment 😢

"The only thing Branh did was state his opinion along with REFERENCING sterotypes and he gets slamed (—??). That's really double standard, don't you think?"

So, does referencing legitimize his vitrolic sputum? I don't think so. Branh, can take it. When slAm others then don't be shocked or surprised if you yourself get slammed. It's not a double-standard, it's balance.

Primegen,

I read it. But I as I've said before, it has been my experience that if you choose to "read" or "interpret" only a tidbit or choice selection then you miss the overall. THAT'S MY POINT! It's about being selective. It doesn't work.

Primegen,

It's not a question of doing a poor job, it's a doing exactly what Branh does. Spew out bits, let them fall where they may, then try to clean up the mess afterwards. It wasn't meant to be spelled out for everyone. It's to get you to think.

Primegen,

Have you read every Branh post? I don't think so. Branh can go into attack mode without much provocation. So, you're not in a position to see the whole picture. Branh wouldn't post something like "Catfish doesn't Make Sense" because he hides behind what seems like reasonable, safe topics. Once you post to those, that's where you get reemed. Look, it's not science and it's not science-fiction. We all know how he is. For me, he's cross the line a few too many times with me. If you choose to indulge in his belief, great, if not don't. I am still free, just as he is, to state my case.

CF36

As I say, it's up to you It wasn't an attack, I just put his words up for everyone to see. I barely said a thing. Everyone else pretty much did the talking.

Gee Dr. Freud where did you get your psychological degree? Toys R US? In usual fashion you misquoted me once AGAIN, which is something you often do. So, please spare me your self-righteous rhetoric. I never said my friend lost her inheritance, I said she's nearly going bankrupt paying for her husband's cancer treatments. YOU, in your all-knowing capacity, labeled her as someone who didn't manage her money.

I don't care about Black people? OH, and by the way - I am Black! So, whose shooting themselves in the foot now? As usual, you don't know what the f*ck you're talking about, but you suuuuure make it sound good.

CF36

Primgen,

"The very clear difference is, Branh focuses on topics, you focused on attacting a person."

I did not start the attacks. I came to this board with a clear intent of not judging him or anyone based on how others responded to him/her/them. I can easily focus on a topic, any topic. But when someone starts questioning your mental health because you don't feel the same way they do about this country, then yeah, I have problem with that. If they choose to use my words incorrectly to make a point then, once again, I have a problem. When I tried to use humor to lighten some heavy hearts bruised by their Virgo men, Branh step in and did a tap dance all over my post; proceeded to accuse my male Virgo friend of being "p*ssy". I don't recall p*ssy was a topic when he mentioned it. It's all here on the message board.

OHHHHH YAY! Branh replied !

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Dude, you are totally delusional. Where did I counter by saying I care about blacks? No where. I responded to you quote and said OH by they way I am Black. Making a declaration is not the same as saying I care.

This is all too stupid and time consuming. Which is not a cope out. Surely, if I wanted to sit down and compare GNP all over the world I could. But honestly, no one on this board wants to sit down and read it. Let them open a book, or read the Wall Street Journal if they choose. I don't think they need or want a lecture.

Write your dissertation, stamp it and mail it to someone who cares.

primegen,

No, I am not a Libra.

Primegen,

I reiterate - I did not START the attacks. I can't be any more clear.

In the words of Peggy Lee..

Is that all there is, is that all there is
If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the booze and have a ball
If that's all there is

This topic turns out to be political—

Count me on?
Brahn/prime? catfish is right?.what do you know??for once.. "fish is right"?!

Fish'n politics?.!

Lmao?

And Mr B-train?

You don?t know J.S. about EU and their agenda? why don?t you stick with your judo/American stuff..??

Sorry.. damn sorry? Zioninst/Ameriacans I meant—?.

I love Jews..

You ignorant son of a bitches? black or white.. its all shades of colours ..

time to Q-train..??

Prime

You and I don't communicate well, not because I am a Libra, but because we simply lack a sympathetic understanding of the other person's point of view. We do not "get" each other at all. We are completely incompatible on every level. I never understand where you are coming from. You never understand where I am coming from.

And deep down, I don't think either of us really care.

Point 1: Hating your own country.

If you can locate a single statement where I said I hated this country, then fine, but you can?t so -

The point is moot.

Last time I checked I still have the right to hate this country if I choose, but I don?t and never said I did.

?Don't go around here trying to be a humanitarian, and trying to fabricate some perceived worldview by embellishing the truth, and misquoting and using what I saw out of context.?

Branh. In this regard, you are the KING. You haven?t gotten one of my statements correct yet. Keep searching, I am sure you?ll fabricate something.

What are you now; the message board police? So, only YOU can spread the word of Branh all over the board while everyone it just suppose to sit back and except it? For someone who claims to love this country it sounds awfully Facist to me.

Viva Fidel. Oops, wait. Viva Branh! (And yes, I know Fidel is a Communist).

?Catfish couldn't give two shits about poor people; they'll just be coerced by anti-capitalist to really fit her sense of entitlement in this world.? So, now you?re an authority on my personal feelings about the poor? Gee, you must be some kind of wicked mind reader. Can you give some stock tips while you?re at it?

Point 2: Virgo bashing on the Pisces board.

Would you rather I Virgo bash on the Virgo board? Is there no where I can speak my mind and converse with others who?ve had problems with Virgos? Let?s roll back the pages and take a look at some of the Pisces bashing you?ve done. Rather, let?s not. If anyone wants to see then I can direct them.

Point 3: This thread

My response was not meant to counter your response. I don?t bother to get into a point/counterpoint discussion with you since you haven?t accurately quoted me yet. You base your responses about what you think is going on in my head and in my heart. If it?s not on the page, what?s the point? Dude, admit it, I caught you monologuing (sp).

Slander ? to utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another?s reputation.

Tell me you?re not guilty of this so I can have a good laugh to carry me through the remainder of the day.

Prime

*sigh*

I did read this thread. I didn't read the original. I even said I didn't believe Branh believed what he wrote and was just shit stirring before he came on and said that.

I don't understand you because you do not write/communicate in clear concise language that I can understand.

For example:
The issue is, actually read what Branh posted, by your comments it is clear you have not.

I have no idea what you are talking about. This sentence does not make sense to me. I do not understand your communication style .

I am sure I have posted many things that you do not understand. Our communication style s are too different and we just frustrate the fuck out of each other.

What is the issue that you would like me to see and I will go back and read the post by Branh?

I thought someone said the other thread had been deleted? Is it still up?

I am not asking you to "dumb" down your responses. I am FAR from stupid. I assume you are not. I am asking you to clarify. I am asking you to use concise language so I can attempt to see the point you are trying to make.

I was basing my opinion on the exert that catfish posted. I can see why it would be offensive and why it would be seen as being racist.

What I find amusing is real racism is still very much alive today in some states:


http://www.geocities.com/wretchedgothbeauty/additions/StupidLaws.html<BR>
Blacks have it easy compared to other races if this is the extent of it!It is also now legal to harrass legal,spanish speaking or accented mexicans to see thier papers and yeah,the whole arabs not being allowed on planes due to complaints from other plane riders.

Well?well? primePIG start blushing on Virgo board too? what do you know..??

get back to your hole and stop kissing brahn's ass..

You guys deserve each other?.

Only a goddamn racist.. supports a goddamn racist..

Now shut the fuck up primepig and be a human for a second?. Can you..?? naw.. you cant?that?s why I am here to bust you are ass.. and your kind?

I have read the thread on Inter racial dating in the relationship area. I did not see any posts by you on that thread so I still don't know what your point is.

Allow me to clarify my point.

Unfortunately, race is still a sensitive subject especially, from my understanding, in the US.

In this thread, you illustrated my point for me Prime.

You argued that Brahn must know what he is talking about because he grew up in the black community. You seem to assume there is no harm in expressing his experiences and because he himself is black, it is fair comment.

If we look at that comment, it is dangerous comment. This is exactly the type of thinking most racists follow. (To be clear, I am not suggesting you YOURSELF are racist.) But in the wrong hands, if a racist person was looking for an argument as to why whichever race was superior to another, Branh's comments would be a powerful one because it is coming from a black person ... so they should know.

If we truly analyze your comment, you are suggesting that black people cannot be racist towards their own people. If you look at that
comment, and follow that logic, you are arguing that any ethnic group cannot
be racists against themselves. This is untrue and in fact, they can hurt themselves by doing so. I used a historical factual reference to illustrate how people can be racist towards their own cultural group and the ramifications of doing so.

*** You argued that Brahn must know what he is talking about because he grew up in the black community. You seem to assume there is no harm in expressing his experiences and because he himself is black, it is fair comment.

BTW, I do not necessarily disagree with you. If it was a fair world where people did not try to keep others down for whatever reason, it would be fair comment. Unfortunately, this is not the way the world works.

Someone could stumble across Branh's comments and use them in their own agenda ... and I doubt it would be one he would benefit from.

And besides, they weren't his real reflections and experiences. They were made up for shock value.

Only a goddamn racist.. supports a goddamn racist..

Now shut the fuck up primepig and be a human for a second?. Can you..?? naw.. you cant?that?s why I am here to bust you are ass.. and your kind?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. LMAO. QBONE IS IN THE HOUSE. WOOF WOOF.

Watch what? Am I suppose to pull a rabbit out of my ass? Now, that would be something to see!!!! '-)

Do you even read your own posts? I never said I hated capitalism because my blue blood friend lost her inheritance. Where do you get these notions? ONCE AGAIN, WRONG! I said I LOST MY INHERITANCE, more to the point it was stolen from me. Now, did I say I hated capitalism because of it? NOOOOOOOO. It would have made more sense to bolster your argument with that statement than the one you misquoted. My friend has no problem working for living.

When you start paying attention to the FACTs and not your impressions, then may be, I'll consider supporting my statements.

Now, the quote I put on the board was cut and pasted directly from the topic Relationships. Purely unadultered and untouched.

Brahn, I made it very clear from the beginning, if you recall, that I didn?t wish to engage in a political debate. EVER! Take the wax out of your ears, or should I say eyes. I am not ignoring; am I standing by my original statement. It's a circular exercise. More like masturbation! A topic I am sure you could write volumes on.

You have this obsessive need for me to prove myself in my statements. I don't have to do a GDamn thing you ask of me. Are you God on throne? AM I suppose to jump because you say JUMP! Better think again. I would look into those control issues if I were you.

A quote from Branh?(with no additives or preservatives)

"No Virgo claims to be the authority on other peoples problems; they are just good at accessing them. A Virgo know they could be wrong, which is why Virgos never give you instructions, just an analysis of what they think is going on."


Hmmh.. Hypocritical? Yes. No instructions eh? Better get this conditiona analyzed before it becomes a habit.

And for the last time - I DON'T HATE YOU! I don't even know you dude; how I could I possibly hate you.

lol!

HATE is far stronger than dislike or not being able to stand (tolerate) a person.