Venus Conjunct Pluto Synastry

Venus Conjunct Pluto Synastry Explained

Venus conjunct Pluto in synastry indicates intense emotional and physical attraction that can lead to transformative connections. It often involves power dynamics and deep emotional bonds, which can feel manipulative or controlling if not balanced. Both partners typically feel the effects strongly, but the person with Pluto influence may experience more intensity and desire for control or transformation.

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I recently ended things last Wednesday with a Sagittarius man (Gemini Asc, Scorpio Venus, Virgo Moon, Aries Mars) and I (Aries Sun, Sag Asc, Taurus Venus, Libra Moon, Cap Mars) still can’t stop obsessing over him. His Venus conjuncts my Pluto in synastry at a tight orb of 0 degrees. He also has Venus conjunct Pluto natally.

He was enthralled by me first then as time went on, I felt like I was put under a spell. The sex and emotional connection was intense. He was not my type physically at all but I fell for his big personality and optimism. We only saw each other for 1.5 months but I let him in completely.

I felt him pull away the past two weeks and downloaded the dating app where we had found each other looking for a sign. We had both paused our profiles about two weeks into meeting. When I downloaded the app, I saw his profile had changed location. The only way you can change your location is if you go in and manually update it yourself. I also created a fake profile and matched with him, so there was proof that he was active on it again.

I didn’t tell him I saw him on the dating app. I was so sad. I just told him I wasn’t ready and needed to work on myself. He said he understood and told me that if I wanted to hang out sometime soon, to let him know.

Two days later, he texts me an article about his business venture closing a seven figure deal. That’s when I then tell him the truth, that I saw that he was active on the dating app again and that even though I know not seeing each other anymore was for the best, he made a huge impact on me and that I’m glad I met him. He responded that he really liked me but now after being single for the past several months for the first time in ten years and with everything going on professionally, he recognizes that it’s time for him to be selfish. He encouraged me to explore what’s out there because he says I should rebuild confidence in myself after focusing too much on my previous nine year relationship that I just got out of in March. He said he thinks I sold myself short from my previous toxic relationship. Then he offered to be friends with benefits but I turned that down because I have very strong feelings for him.

I’ve heard that Venus-Pluto synastry aspects are powerful, especially with the conjunction. Who feels it more? I feel like maybe both of us, especially after he sent me the article of his company. But it felt like a manipulation tactic. He was looking for other girls by getting back on the dating app but then he seemingly tries to dangle his business success to suck me back in or show me what I was missing? What gives?
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You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.
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Posted by saggurl88

You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.


Thank you so much for your input. I didn’t ask for exclusivity. I think my problem is because maybe I lack the self confidence to just date around with no expectations. I realized in that way, I need to work on myself. So that I can put myself out there and not be afraid to get hurt because I know my self worth. But it did hurt to hear that he wasn’t looking for a relationship. I thought maybe that was a cop out? Maybe he really meant he just didn’t want a relationship with me.

It brings me some relief to hear your perspective because my mind naturally wandered towards feeling used, humped and dumped.
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Posted by MyStarsShine

Pluto tends to have the control over Venus


That’s what I thought too. But it seems like he has all the control and was determining the pace of the relationship? I ended it first because I felt like I had to, out of fear, and saw that it wasn’t working out because he decided to look for other girls again.

I’m still obsessed over him! I wonder if he feels the same as I did, intense.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
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Ugh I hate that push pull that they do to us. It’s dangerous territory but I really hope it works out for you!
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Posted by saggurl88

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had
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It would have been nice to have sexual exclusivity at least because I’m afraid of STDs lol
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As far as the obsession, I do think it goes both ways without a doubt. But I think you did the right thing by ending things, if he does not want to be monogamous with you then I wouldn’t continue to see him and let him sink his hooks into you even deeper than they are now, you know?


Yeah I’m so bummed tho. He said I was the whole package in the beginning and that he just didn’t want to sleep with me. But things happened and his feelings changed. It hurts 😢
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As far as the obsession, I do think it goes both ways without a doubt. But I think you did the right thing by ending things, if he does not want to be monogamous with you then I wouldn’t continue to see him and let him sink his hooks into you even deeper than they are now, you know?

Yeah I’m so bummed tho. He said I was the whole package in the beginning and that he just didn’t want to sleep with me. But things happened and his feelings changed. It hurts 😢

Have you come across her videos yet? I have learned so much from her videos.

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Posted by LadyNeptune

His venus squares my pluto.

We also have mars (him) sextile pluto (me) and venus square venus.

So the obsession and attraction has been there from the jump.

Idk that I like the term obsession tho...

In your situation op you can chalk it up to timing.

Both of you just got out of looooonng relationships.


Yeah /: I still wanted to be with him tho!!! Grrrr

The connection was so sexy and intense. It felt so right. Do you feel a challenge with the square?
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His venus squares my pluto.

We also have mars (him) sextile pluto (me) and venus square venus.

So the obsession and attraction has been there from the jump.

Idk that I like the term obsession tho...

In your situation op you can chalk it up to timing.

Both of you just got out of looooonng relationships.

Yeah /: I still wanted to be with him tho!!! Grrrr

The connection was so sexy and intense. It felt so right. Do you feel a challenge with the square?
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a little friction is always a good thing 😉
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Geez it’s intense for you and haven’t yet been intimate. Tread carefully if you guys ever get to that point lol!!! I’m in pieces right now. Longing for him and thinking about him every second! 😩

People misunderstand the nature of Pluto. Their are different expressions giving different results.

Some times astrology can be detrimental in knowledge of it.

You can even change the original outcome by acting on a bad interpretation and creating that one instead . That video included, her perspective is limited.

So sometimes it's better not to dig into the why but instead to accept and explore it's effect on you on a personal/internal level. Such as what you have said about it's effect on you. Explore that.

When a child sees a rainbow they look at it in wonder and it's magical to them. Then you learn what it is and how it is created. The mystery, magicalness, and it's impact is lessened. It's just not the same anymore.

This is one of those instances that it rings true.

Stick with your introspection. Focus on exploring these new realizations
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As far as the obsession, I do think it goes both ways without a doubt. But I think you did the right thing by ending things, if he does not want to be monogamous with you then I wouldn’t continue to see him and let him sink his hooks into you even deeper than they are now, you know?

Yeah I’m so bummed tho. He said I was the whole package in the beginning and that he just didn’t want to sleep with me. But things happened and his feelings changed. It hurts 😢
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This man sounds like a jerk all the way: "He said I was the whole package in the beginning and that he just didn’t want to sleep with me"; "time for him to be selfish"; advices for you to go see other people. Yikes! Drop him, really. Give him a cold shoulder. All this talks that blah blah you were not exclusive and dating is just rubbish. He made it obvious he was into you, it is totally normal you had some expectations. Every guy who practices push and pull does not deserve any attention, just ignore him as you would ignore a stupid fly hitting your window.
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Dealing with a conjunction now (he also has it natally) I'm Pluto 🥴. I want him but I don't want him....like he's sorting out his life and doing a good job but he has some red flags (nothing horrible) so I logically know he is not long term but I can't help but still want him. He is the best kisser 🥵.

Anyway, to make you feel somewhat better with how you're feeling ..I'll share my experience so far.

I met him thru a group...he msg me first. Asked me out. We went out and again I was super attracted to him but also not lol. After the second date (I think...could of been after the first one ..I don't remember)...we didn't talk for a month. He contacts me for another date. I agree...this time we got to hang out some more. Things got hot and heavy but I didn't sleep with him but we were laying with each other, holding hands and just super like coupley 🤢. A couple days go by and I notice he posts his pic in a singles thread. I'm like ohhhh ok (fully knowing...hes single, we ain't together and I don't wanna be...I'm actually in love with someone else who I can't be with ...whole Pluto/square moon story/situation which is way more intense) but it bothered the fuck outta me. He got 1 like which ngl...made me happy because I was ready to go kinda psycho...not on him just in private lol. But I did immediately msg him and I'm like (trying to be funny)...just here for you to shoot your shot in me...is this how it works? He laughed and I said lbvs 😏. No response to that...but it was pretty obvious I was feeling some type of way.

So another same type of thread was made days later and I posted my pic and liked all the other guys pics (two can play that game 🤦🏼‍♀️)...I notice he doesn't post in it or like anything. Ok good ..feeling a little better about it lol. Another couple days goes by and I notice hes all the sudden became super active in the group...posting memes and liking everything. Even posting stories on fb and snap...which he hardly if ever does. I'm like wtf is going on...it was odd behavior. Instantly...my thoughts are he's trying to get my attention because again we went radio silent on each other (Virgo suns problems lol). But I'm like it's probably all in my head. So I ignored it but it got under my skin. I talked to a friend about it to vent and just constantly said I hated him (I don't but it made me feel better lol). I didn't like how he was acting at all tho because I want him to be obsessed with me or at least be caught up like I'm being 🤦🏼‍♀️. I tell myself to get the fuck over it and I refuse to let it bother me...I refuse to look at his stories or activity. Well if you know how fb is... sometimes it'll pop up with stuff your friends will like. I now see him heart reacting to chicks pics instead of liking them. Grrrrr 🤬. I post my pic and he skipped it but heart reacted everyone elses. Ohhhhhhhh ok then 😑. I'm like fuck this dude and curse him under my breathe but again refuse to react because in my head...that's what he wants. I withdraw myself further on the verge of deleting him on snap only to get his attention but I don't...logic kicks in and its saying how childish it would be. Logic is right lol.

He posts more stories...I don't watch them and I see he likes something's ...memes and such but I try and focus on other stuff. Guess who msged me today...yep. I ignore his msg for a couple hours then I say hi. He asked me what I was up to. I give short replies. He asks if I wanna go out tonight. I tell him it's too late and I have to work tomorrow. He says he can come to me if I want but if not no biggie. I'm like not tonight but maybe sometime this week. He says whatever clever babe. Huh?! Wtf does that mean?! I'm like so yes no on another day? He sends me a gif of "oh yasssss". Dude...use words wtf 😑😆. So I'm like which day. He says whatever day works best for me. I say tomorrow. He says sounds like a plan. I tell him I'm showing up no matter what even if he forgets. He says he won't forget.

So after all that ...he comes calling and I jump 🥴😑.

Pluto upper hand my ass 😂. We shall see how tomorrow goes. It's only gonna get worse on my end if this little shit is bothering me but do I walk away..nope...I want him....well something in me wants him. My brain is like NO, run now! I've dealt with the square before, 1st time as far as I know with the conjunction tho. I'm also a Scorp riser...so it's right up my alley but even I can't resist this. Help me! 🥴😂. I have no idea how he feels...like at all, not even a hint. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Edit to add...I'm not one to make a big deal about likes and shit. I'm a big ass flirt online so I know when I do it...it doesn't mean anything but when I feel like it's being done purposely (even in my own head)...well, you see how that goes. Shits dumb asf 😆
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Pluto loves power but that doesn’t mean that Pluto gets to have the power.

If you’re Pluto and Venus has a Venus in Scorpio, how far do you think you’ll get with the power plays?

The problem is, this Venus person has learned to not be codependent. This Venus has learned to have hobbies and goals outside of Pluto. You’re attracted to how healthy this Venus person sees themselves.

When Venus has a life outside of Pluto, the Pluto person is sol

This Venus has a bulging career. He doesn’t have to rely on the Pluto person for validation, he already has it

Also, you mentioned he pulled away. You may have dropped your mask or fascade and Venus saw it, rendering you powerless. Venus saw the magic behind the curtains so to speak.
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I respect a man that’s direct and tells you he’s being selfish and where his priorities are.

It’s not his fault you became obsessed and let down your guard and decided to make him yours, after 1.5 months, and without his consent.

You have a superficial connection. The depth you think you have is one sided and most likely fuelled by your preconceived expectations regarding synastry.

He did you the best respect by telling you straight. He seriously doesn’t owe you any other closure.

It’s your job to work on your boundaries and not give someone “everything” without them even knowing past a sexual experience or encounter.

Pluto needs to distract.
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Posted by saggurl88

You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.


I think sag didn’t want the intensity.

It sounds like she had too many expectations too soon and was planning their future
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I was the Venus

It was the most exhausting yet compelling rship and tbh i’m glad its over

Venus Pluto rships don’t often last....it’s about learning and when that’s done, people move on if they haven’t killed each other 🥴

“As in all Pluto synastry aspects, the Pluto person has the “upper hand”, and Venus is the submissive partner. As the relationship develops, the couple becomes demanding of each other. The fear of losing one another affects them both, giving rise to feelings of insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. Pluto desires complete domination and control over Venus, while Venus is eager to please Pluto. Pluto will continue to dig and dig at Venus’ mind until he is satisfied with Venus’ affection. “All or Nothing” characterizes this union. Pluto is not willing to share Venus, and uses manipulative tactics to ensure Venus belongs to him, and him only”
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄
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I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.
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This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
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Geez it’s intense for you and haven’t yet been intimate. Tread carefully if you guys ever get to that point lol!!! I’m in pieces right now. Longing for him and thinking about him every second! 😩

People misunderstand the nature of Pluto. Their are different expressions giving different results.

Some times astrology can be detrimental in knowledge of it.

You can even change the original outcome by acting on a bad interpretation and creating that one instead . That video included, her perspective is limited.

So sometimes it's better not to dig into the why but instead to accept and explore it's effect on you on a personal/internal level. Such as what you have said about it's effect on you. Explore that.

When a child sees a rainbow they look at it in wonder and it's magical to them. Then you learn what it is and how it is created. The mystery, magicalness, and it's impact is lessened. It's just not the same anymore.

This is one of those instances that it rings true.

Stick with your introspection. Focus on exploring these new realizations
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Thank you for this. A week later, after the intense longing and regret, I feel like I am coming out of this experience with fresh new eyes. Understanding myself better and knowing what I really want in a healthy relationship. It’s painful to part from him but he taught me so much about myself. I think I’ve been repressed for years and now I feel like I am open to other people and new experiences. Life is very interesting.
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Pluto loves power but that doesn’t mean that Pluto gets to have the power.

If you’re Pluto and Venus has a Venus in Scorpio, how far do you think you’ll get with the power plays?

The problem is, this Venus person has learned to not be codependent. This Venus has learned to have hobbies and goals outside of Pluto. You’re attracted to how healthy this Venus person sees themselves.

When Venus has a life outside of Pluto, the Pluto person is sol

This Venus has a bulging career. He doesn’t have to rely on the Pluto person for validation, he already has it

Also, you mentioned he pulled away. You may have dropped your mask or fascade and Venus saw it, rendering you powerless. Venus saw the magic behind the curtains so to speak.


100% agree. He is in a healthy state of mind, doesn’t need validation from anyone. He is forging his own path successfully. I feel like a girl and not yet a woman with him. He is most certainly out of my league and I was playing with fire. I see I still have a lot of growing to do.
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I respect a man that’s direct and tells you he’s being selfish and where his priorities are.

It’s not his fault you became obsessed and let down your guard and decided to make him yours, after 1.5 months, and without his consent.

You have a superficial connection. The depth you think you have is one sided and most likely fuelled by your preconceived expectations regarding synastry.

He did you the best respect by telling you straight. He seriously doesn’t owe you any other closure.

It’s your job to work on your boundaries and not give someone “everything” without them even knowing past a sexual experience or encounter.

Pluto needs to distract.


Yes, I see how I rushed into it and expected too much. It’s a hard lesson for me to learn. I’m just glad he is a decent guy and didn’t pretend to be otherwise. He could have hurt me badly.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.
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That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

This is exactly how I feel. Even though it didn’t work out, I’m so glad I met him. Now I know what I want in a relationship and I refuse to settle for anything less. I needed to meet him so I could heal and grow.

That is what the aspect is about in my experience

I think for a lot of people, once enough, unless you’re a masochist 🥴
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Maybe I’m a masochist lol! I loved that intensity though. All-consuming and over-powering. I wanted him to dominate me and I loved when he ordered me around. I would playfully resist him in bed just for him to pin me down so I could feel his strength. I’ve never wanted to submit completely to a man before. So sexy and hot! I would love to find someone to have that aspect with but if we are both healthy individuals. That would be my ideal relationship!
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

We’re you Venus or Pluto? Conjunct?
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His Pluto conjunct my Venus in Scorpio by 1° .... probably as bad as it gets lol 😂
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

We’re you Venus or Pluto? Conjunct?

His Pluto conjunct my Venus in Scorpio by 1° .... probably as bad as it gets lol 😂
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Ooh so you were Venus. Do you know how it was like for him? Did he reciprocate? Is there a chance you guys would work out again in the future?
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You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.

Thank you so much for your input. I didn’t ask for exclusivity. I think my problem is because maybe I lack the self confidence to just date around with no expectations. I realized in that way, I need to work on myself. So that I can put myself out there and not be afraid to get hurt because I know my self worth. But it did hurt to hear that he wasn’t looking for a relationship. I thought maybe that was a cop out? Maybe he really meant he just didn’t want a relationship with me.

It brings me some relief to hear your perspective because my mind naturally wandered towards feeling used, humped and dumped.
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I read some of the replies and now I'm gonna come in here and throw you for a loop 🥴

He's plutonian, so the intensity is fine, in fact preferred, most likely.

I'm a Sag Sun/ Scorpio Venus. I love that in relationships, and I'm very sexual, so if the sex is good I will put up with lots of grey area of what's actually happening between the two of us.

With all that said, you are the one who ended things with him, so you will most likely need to be the one to start things back up if you want. Or you can wait to see if his Aries Mars kicks into gear and he comes back around.

He probably won't let you know how obsessed he is, Sag hurt on the inside privately, so whether he was or wasn't obsessed, you may never know. I could love a person strongly and never talk to them again. I've done it plenty of times.

I think it's a good sign that he sent the article after you broke things off, he's showing you he's a good catch.

I also think it's a good sign that he offered friends with benefits, because he still wants the intimacy with you.

You are the one that cut off dating him, so it leaves 2 options- FWB or a Full on relationship. He's said he wasn't ready for a relationship and you said no to the FWB situation.

So that leaves you guys out of options.

If you want, you can get in contact with him and say that you want to try dating again, that you just aren't used to dating and don't know the ins and outs of it since you were in a long relationship. That you had a lot of fun with him and want to start fresh and date again. That you enjoyed the time you spent with him and would like to get to know him better.

Leave out that you guys can date other people, leave it open-ended, so there aren't any rules either way, you can re-establish things once you two get close again, if he is fine with it. Also leave out that you like him a lot. Just keep it simple with you have lots of fun with him and you enjoy his company.

It's up to you if you want to risk him saying yes or no. But staying hurt when there is a 50% chance that things are unfinished, is worth the rick in my opinion. I'm not sure what happened to make him pull away, but you can just take a chance to try again.

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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

We’re you Venus or Pluto? Conjunct?

His Pluto conjunct my Venus in Scorpio by 1° .... probably as bad as it gets lol 😂

Ooh so you were Venus. Do you know how it was like for him? Did he reciprocate? Is there a chance you guys would work out again in the future?
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It was very passionate and life changing for him too. He has moon-Pluto in Scorpio. Scared of facing himself. Found it difficult

to be open but I could read him.

No, wouldn’t go back. Apart from the extreme sexual chemistry, the rest of the rship was exhausting. He tried so hard to control me (and himself)

I’m just so happy to be free!
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had
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I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

Edited to add this-

I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.
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You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.

Thank you so much for your input. I didn’t ask for exclusivity. I think my problem is because maybe I lack the self confidence to just date around with no expectations. I realized in that way, I need to work on myself. So that I can put myself out there and not be afraid to get hurt because I know my self worth. But it did hurt to hear that he wasn’t looking for a relationship. I thought maybe that was a cop out? Maybe he really meant he just didn’t want a relationship with me.

It brings me some relief to hear your perspective because my mind naturally wandered towards feeling used, humped and dumped.

I read some of the replies and now I'm gonna come in here and throw you for a loop 🥴

He's plutonian, so the intensity is fine, in fact preferred, most likely.

I'm a Sag Sun/ Scorpio Venus. I love that in relationships, and I'm very sexual, so if the sex is good I will put up with lots of grey area of what's actually happening between the two of us.

With all that said, you are the one who ended things with him, so you will most likely need to be the one to start things back up if you want. Or you can wait to see if his Aries Mars kicks into gear and he comes back around.

He probably won't let you know how obsessed he is, Sag hurt on the inside privately, so whether he was or wasn't obsessed, you may never know. I could love a person strongly and never talk to them again. I've done it plenty of times.

I think it's a good sign that he sent the article after you broke things off, he's showing you he's a good catch.

I also think it's a good sign that he offered friends with benefits, because he still wants the intimacy with you.

You are the one that cut off dating him, so it leaves 2 options- FWB or a Full on relationship. He's said he wasn't ready for a relationship and you said no to the FWB situation.

So that leaves you guys out of options.

If you want, you can get in contact with him and say that you want to try dating again, that you just aren't used to dating and don't know the ins and outs of it since you were in a long relationship. That you had a lot of fun with him and want to start fresh and date again. That you enjoyed the time you spent with him and would like to get to know him better.

Leave out that you guys can date other people, leave it open-ended, so there aren't any rules either way, you can re-establish things once you two get close again, if he is fine with it. Also leave out that you like him a lot. Just keep it simple with you have lots of fun with him and you enjoy his company.

It's up to you if you want to risk him saying yes or no. But staying hurt when there is a 50% chance that things are unfinished, is worth the rick in my opinion. I'm not sure what happened to make him pull away, but you can just take a chance to try again.
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I absolutely adore you for taking the time to help me with this! I’ve toyed with the idea of reaching out to him again but am scared that this is extremely dangerous territory. I’m all or nothing so not sure if I can go into this lightly with no expectations. Are Scorpio Venuses the same?

The intensity I felt from him was raw and palpable. We both agreed that we are very sexually compatible, we do it several times a day, he will last for hours, I could go on. In the beginning, he said that my personality combined with my looks was very attractive to him and he said he didn’t just want to sleep with me. But since I’ve shown him that I lack self-confidence and I’m not quite ready for a relationship, he has sadly scaled back considerably.

He has such amazing self-restraint and self-control so I agree that it’s up to me to start things up again. You’re spot on, I don’t know how modern dating works and he knows that about me too. The last time we spoke, he even told me that if I have confidence in myself and know my self worth, I can’t be afraid to get hurt because the only validation I need in life is my own.

If I do start things up again, I know it will strictly be FWB. I’m not sure how I can separate my feelings from sex so I’m very wary of getting hurt. Especially when things were very intense in the beginning - he would text me all day and want to know everything about me, then it tapered down significantly towards the end when I felt him pull away. But I’m currently seeing another guy so maybe this will help me keep my distance.

I think him closing the million dollar deal with his business venture may have made him want to explore what else is out there. This is exactly what he said to me:

“But I do think its a good idea for you to explore what’s out there. I really do like you, but I think you spent so many years focused on one person you’ve sold yourself short. And to be honest, I have no idea what my perfect partner is either. I know I like you without a doubt, but I spent 8 months single over the last 10 years and have so much going on professionally that I need to recognize now is the time for me to be selfish you know?

I am super down for us to hang out, be friends, and do dirty stuff to each other haha and I would obviously tell you if I have slept with someone else (which I haven’t) but I just don’t feel ready to go into a relationship. Its not because I don’t like you, its just because my wounds from the past are just starting to heal.”

Not sure if he is bullshitting me or not?
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

We’re you Venus or Pluto? Conjunct?

His Pluto conjunct my Venus in Scorpio by 1° .... probably as bad as it gets lol 😂

Ooh so you were Venus. Do you know how it was like for him? Did he reciprocate? Is there a chance you guys would work out again in the future?

It was very passionate and life changing for him too. He has moon-Pluto in Scorpio. Scared of facing himself. Found it difficult

to be open but I could read him.

No, wouldn’t go back. Apart from the extreme sexual chemistry, the rest of the rship was exhausting. He tried so hard to control me (and himself)

I’m just so happy to be free!
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I am definitely Pluto and he is Venus. He could read me like an open book and there was nothing I wanted to hide from him. I’m wondering if going back would be too dangerous and painful for me. But not sure how he feels as the Venus.
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

Edited to add this-

I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.
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I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.
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You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.

Thank you so much for your input. I didn’t ask for exclusivity. I think my problem is because maybe I lack the self confidence to just date around with no expectations. I realized in that way, I need to work on myself. So that I can put myself out there and not be afraid to get hurt because I know my self worth. But it did hurt to hear that he wasn’t looking for a relationship. I thought maybe that was a cop out? Maybe he really meant he just didn’t want a relationship with me.

It brings me some relief to hear your perspective because my mind naturally wandered towards feeling used, humped and dumped.

I read some of the replies and now I'm gonna come in here and throw you for a loop 🥴

He's plutonian, so the intensity is fine, in fact preferred, most likely.

I'm a Sag Sun/ Scorpio Venus. I love that in relationships, and I'm very sexual, so if the sex is good I will put up with lots of grey area of what's actually happening between the two of us.

With all that said, you are the one who ended things with him, so you will most likely need to be the one to start things back up if you want. Or you can wait to see if his Aries Mars kicks into gear and he comes back around.

He probably won't let you know how obsessed he is, Sag hurt on the inside privately, so whether he was or wasn't obsessed, you may never know. I could love a person strongly and never talk to them again. I've done it plenty of times.

I think it's a good sign that he sent the article after you broke things off, he's showing you he's a good catch.

I also think it's a good sign that he offered friends with benefits, because he still wants the intimacy with you.

You are the one that cut off dating him, so it leaves 2 options- FWB or a Full on relationship. He's said he wasn't ready for a relationship and you said no to the FWB situation.

So that leaves you guys out of options.

If you want, you can get in contact with him and say that you want to try dating again, that you just aren't used to dating and don't know the ins and outs of it since you were in a long relationship. That you had a lot of fun with him and want to start fresh and date again. That you enjoyed the time you spent with him and would like to get to know him better.

Leave out that you guys can date other people, leave it open-ended, so there aren't any rules either way, you can re-establish things once you two get close again, if he is fine with it. Also leave out that you like him a lot. Just keep it simple with you have lots of fun with him and you enjoy his company.

It's up to you if you want to risk him saying yes or no. But staying hurt when there is a 50% chance that things are unfinished, is worth the rick in my opinion. I'm not sure what happened to make him pull away, but you can just take a chance to try again.

I absolutely adore you for taking the time to help me with this! I’ve toyed with the idea of reaching out to him again but am scared that this is extremely dangerous territory. I’m all or nothing so not sure if I can go into this lightly with no expectations. Are Scorpio Venuses the same?

The intensity I felt from him was raw and palpable. We both agreed that we are very sexually compatible, we do it several times a day, he will last for hours, I could go on. In the beginning, he said that my personality combined with my looks was very attractive to him and he said he didn’t just want to sleep with me. But since I’ve shown him that I lack self-confidence and I’m not quite ready for a relationship, he has sadly scaled back considerably.

He has such amazing self-restraint and self-control so I agree that it’s up to me to start things up again. You’re spot on, I don’t know how modern dating works and he knows that about me too. The last time we spoke, he even told me that if I have confidence in myself and know my self worth, I can’t be afraid to get hurt because the only validation I need in life is my own.

If I do start things up again, I know it will strictly be FWB. I’m not sure how I can separate my feelings from sex so I’m very wary of getting hurt. Especially when things were very intense in the beginning - he would text me all day and want to know everything about me, then it tapered down significantly towards the end when I felt him pull away. But I’m currently seeing another guy so maybe this will help me keep my distance.

I think him closing the million dollar deal with his business venture may have made him want to explore what else is out there. This is exactly what he said to me:

“But I do think its a good idea for you to explore what’s out there. I really do like you, but I think you spent so many years focused on one person you’ve sold yourself short. And to be honest, I have no idea what my perfect partner is either. I know I like you without a doubt, but I spent 8 months single over the last 10 years and have so much going on professionally that I need to recognize now is the time for me to be selfish you know?

I am super down for us to hang out, be friends, and do dirty stuff to each other haha and I would obviously tell you if I have slept with someone else (which I haven’t) but I just don’t feel ready to go into a relationship. Its not because I don’t like you, its just because my wounds from the past are just starting to heal.”

Not sure if he is bullshitting me or not?
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This is what I said to him before he proposed FWB:

“When I told you I felt like we could be good friends. I really did feel connected to you emotionally and physically and I let you in completely. I couldn’t hide anything from you anyway because you read me so well. It was intense and scary, it happened so fast. It made me realize that I need to get out more and try to make real connections and have friendships with people. I have a lot of prejudices against others because I’m afraid of getting hurt. Also, that I need to be more assertive with what I want and to communicate better. I want to have self-control and restraint like you do. I’m grateful I met you. It was so short but you had a huge affect on me. I was waiting to tell you all this after giving it a bit more time but you texted me this morning and I thought it was a good time to tell you.”

I wanted to be completely honest with him like I always had been. Not sure if it was a smart move on my part…I should have been more reserved and mysterious when dating someone new. But I just let it all hang out instead.
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Pluto tends to have the control over Venus

I wonder if this is true for the conjunct. In the case of Pluto opposite Venus, I have this with the Pisces and I feel that I have no control at all which is what makes me obsess over him. Lol I feel like Pluto WANTS power, but Venus has more control and Venus knows how to push Pluto’s buttons like purposely trying to provoke jealousy.

@OP, I’ve been talking to someone for about 4 months and his Aries Venus is opposite my Libra Pluto , we thankfully have not been physically/sexually involved which is probably for the better because I would probably lose my mind. Lmao

My Pisces also has Pluto opposite Venus in his natal though, and he also has Pluto conjunct ascendant so he is Pluto rising, so I definitely feel he is more Pluto than me. I have read that the roles can reverse, especially when they have it in their natal and that has been the case for my Pisces as well.

Our situations started out very similarly. He pursued me heavily at first and ironically joked that I had some kind of spell on him. Then as I started to open up to him emotionally, the roles seemingly reversed. He feels distant now. It’s exhausting honestly and I’m running out of patience I’m to the point I’m kinda grateful that I haven’t met him yet because I know I would be even more hooked. I feel like Venus knows how much Pluto is obsessed and Venus likes to play cat and mouse games.

Then it makes you feel like you (Pluto) might be coming on too strong, too vulnerable, so then you close back up and back off, but then they come right back around to bring you back their way 🙄

I lost my mind and became addicted to him sexually. It was really very unhealthy and I’ve not had sex since. It was very extreme but healed me of my neediness/imbalance ....

Quite possibly the best thing that happened to me .... in retrospect that is.

We’re you Venus or Pluto? Conjunct?

His Pluto conjunct my Venus in Scorpio by 1° .... probably as bad as it gets lol 😂

Ooh so you were Venus. Do you know how it was like for him? Did he reciprocate? Is there a chance you guys would work out again in the future?

It was very passionate and life changing for him too. He has moon-Pluto in Scorpio. Scared of facing himself. Found it difficult

to be open but I could read him.

No, wouldn’t go back. Apart from the extreme sexual chemistry, the rest of the rship was exhausting. He tried so hard to control me (and himself)

I’m just so happy to be free!

I am definitely Pluto and he is Venus. He could read me like an open book and there was nothing I wanted to hide from him. I’m wondering if going back would be too dangerous and painful for me. But not sure how he feels as the Venus.
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I think you know the answer to that ....
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You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.

Thank you so much for your input. I didn’t ask for exclusivity. I think my problem is because maybe I lack the self confidence to just date around with no expectations. I realized in that way, I need to work on myself. So that I can put myself out there and not be afraid to get hurt because I know my self worth. But it did hurt to hear that he wasn’t looking for a relationship. I thought maybe that was a cop out? Maybe he really meant he just didn’t want a relationship with me.

It brings me some relief to hear your perspective because my mind naturally wandered towards feeling used, humped and dumped.

I read some of the replies and now I'm gonna come in here and throw you for a loop 🥴

He's plutonian, so the intensity is fine, in fact preferred, most likely.

I'm a Sag Sun/ Scorpio Venus. I love that in relationships, and I'm very sexual, so if the sex is good I will put up with lots of grey area of what's actually happening between the two of us.

With all that said, you are the one who ended things with him, so you will most likely need to be the one to start things back up if you want. Or you can wait to see if his Aries Mars kicks into gear and he comes back around.



It's up to you if you want to risk him saying yes or no. But staying hurt when there is a 50% chance that things are unfinished, is worth the rick in my opinion. I'm not sure what happened to make him pull away, but you can just take a chance to try again.

I absolutely adore you for taking the time to help me with this! I’ve toyed with the idea of reaching out to him again but am scared that this is extremely dangerous territory. I’m all or nothing so not sure if I can go into this lightly with no expectations. Are Scorpio Venuses the same?

The intensity I felt from him was raw and palpable. We both agreed that we are very sexually compatible, we do it several times a day, he will last for hours, I could go on. In the beginning, he said that my personality combined with my looks was very attractive to him and he said he didn’t just want to sleep with me. But since I’ve shown him that I lack self-confidence and I’m not quite ready for a relationship, he has sadly scaled back considerably.

He has such amazing self-restraint and self-control so I agree that it’s up to me to start things up again. You’re spot on, I don’t know how modern dating works and he knows that about me too. The last time we spoke, he even told me that if I have confidence in myself and know my self worth, I can’t be afraid to get hurt because the only validation I need in life is my own.

If I do start things up again, I know it will strictly be FWB. I’m not sure how I can separate my feelings from sex so I’m very wary of getting hurt. Especially when things were very intense in the beginning - he would text me all day and want to know everything about me, then it tapered down significantly towards the end when I felt him pull away. But I’m currently seeing another guy so maybe this will help me keep my distance.

I think him closing the million dollar deal with his business venture may have made him want to explore what else is out there. This is exactly what he said to me:

“But I do think its a good idea for you to explore what’s out there. I really do like you, but I think you spent so many years focused on one person you’ve sold yourself short. And to be honest, I have no idea what my perfect partner is either. I know I like you without a doubt, but I spent 8 months single over the last 10 years and have so much going on professionally that I need to recognize now is the time for me to be selfish you know?

I am super down for us to hang out, be friends, and do dirty stuff to each other haha and I would obviously tell you if I have slept with someone else (which I haven’t) but I just don’t feel ready to go into a relationship. Its not because I don’t like you, its just because my wounds from the past are just starting to heal.”

Not sure if he is bullshitting me or not?
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Yeah I'm very all or nothing too. But you should've had a conversation with him on what you found, instead of just cutting him off. This behavior can break trust, I'm aware he was on a dating site, so he was already breaking yours, but there should've been a talk about it to see where he was at.

But this will also put things into perspective and make him realize just how much he either liked you or didn't like you, so it's still a good thing that happened. There is hope if you two start up again.

You don't have to go in with no expectations you are looking to date for a relationship. Which is why you can ask to date him again. I go into a relationship with no expectations because I'm looking for a partner and won't settle. So that just means getting to know them and seeing if I can accept them fully. But I will not be locked into a relationship if I don't know you. So yes Scorpio Venus's are like that, but he has a Sag sun, so there are exceptions because of the freedom of choice that he will need to make the decision. After a long time in dating, you can pretty much do what you want with him, but not in the first couple of months.

If a Sag sticks around, sees you a lot and keeps up the intimacy, he is gonna be around for a long time. But it was just too early to tell.

As far as you getting hurt, this is love. You either take your chances or you don't. Your hurt right now aren't you? What you're feeling now will be similar to what you feel in a break up. But it all goes away with new love. You should never be scared of love. Look forward to the benefits of loving a person, don't concentrate on the pain of something that might happen.

With you being unsure of him, why would you expect him to keep coming after you full on? You rejected him, and you say you're not ready for a relationship but you also say that you can't date without expectations. So which is it?

You might not want to start things up again, you seem confused about what you actually want from him. You said no to FWB but now you're saying you would strictly do that.

The pulling away is comfort, he has you, there wasn't a need to keep up the chatting all day. He got answers he needed to the questions he had. But you didn't have a talk about him pulling away or him on the dating site, so it's kind of hard to say what was happening. Communication is key to building a relationship.

With the last message he sent, I can see what he means- You said you weren't ready for a relationship- So go explore and date, Again if you want to get back in his arms, let him know that you want to date again. And keep date other people, but don't tell him you're fine with a fwb situation because you can get hurt down the line by it. Sag are fine with it, so don't say anything you don't mean.

Men will tell me that, and it lets me know that I can use him for his body while I look for someone to have a relationship with. The men always end up feeling used and wonder why I don't take them seriously. This is the worst thing you can tell me cause I will treat them like the fuck boy they are.

"I am super down for us to hang out, be friends, and do dirty stuff to each other haha and I would obviously tell you if I have slept with someone else (which I haven’t) but I just don’t feel ready to go into a relationship. Its not because I don’t like you, its just because my wounds from the past are just starting to heal.”

This says a lot, he wants to keep seeing you. He hasn't slept with anyone else, he's trying to heal from his past, you guys had something good getting started up and again, you cut it off without talking with him.

The choice is yours, but don't bother if you're just gonna offer a fwb situation.
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You were dating him. You weren’t in a relationship yet.

Not to be mean or harsh but I’m not sure why the concept is so hard to understand, honestly. A Sag will date until they are exclusive. That’s it. It’s fairly simple.

Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

Most men want to be exclusive because they don’t want you sleeping with someone else. They want loyalty with no commitment. But they will still look.

You should definitely keep your options open and date others- you don’t have to sleep with them but you should never stop dating people if you don’t have a solid commitment.

Him pulling away could’ve been anything. He could’ve updated his app last month for all you know. You took a look when you felt he was distracted by something else. That could’ve been anything. Or you could be right.

You ended it and he was still able to let you know he liked you a lot. You should’ve just been honest asked him why he was on the app if you didn’t want to end things.

It’s not that he was playing you, he was just dating you.

Thank you so much for your input. I didn’t ask for exclusivity. I think my problem is because maybe I lack the self confidence to just date around with no expectations. I realized in that way, I need to work on myself. So that I can put myself out there and not be afraid to get hurt because I know my self worth. But it did hurt to hear that he wasn’t looking for a relationship. I thought maybe that was a cop out? Maybe he really meant he just didn’t want a relationship with me.

It brings me some relief to hear your perspective because my mind naturally wandered towards feeling used, humped and dumped.

I read some of the replies and now I'm gonna come in here and throw you for a loop 🥴

He's plutonian, so the intensity is fine, in fact preferred, most likely.

I'm a Sag Sun/ Scorpio Venus. I love that in relationships, and I'm very sexual, so if the sex is good I will put up with lots of grey area of what's actually happening between the two of us.

With all that said, you are the one who ended things with him, so you will most likely need to be the one to start things back up if you want. Or you can wait to see if his Aries Mars kicks into gear and he comes back around.

He probably won't let you know how obsessed he is, Sag hurt on the inside privately, so whether he was or wasn't obsessed, you may never know. I could love a person strongly and never talk to them again. I've done it plenty of times.

I think it's a good sign that he sent the article after you broke things off, he's showing you he's a good catch.

I also think it's a good sign that he offered friends with benefits, because he still wants the intimacy with you.

You are the one that cut off dating him, so it leaves 2 options- FWB or a Full on relationship. He's said he wasn't ready for a relationship and you said no to the FWB situation.

So that leaves you guys out of options.

If you want, you can get in contact with him and say that you want to try dating again, that you just aren't used to dating and don't know the ins and outs of it since you were in a long relationship. That you had a lot of fun with him and want to start fresh and date again. That you enjoyed the time you spent with him and would like to get to know him better.

Leave out that you guys can date other people, leave it open-ended, so there aren't any rules either way, you can re-establish things once you two get close again, if he is fine with it. Also leave out that you like him a lot. Just keep it simple with you have lots of fun with him and you enjoy his company.

It's up to you if you want to risk him saying yes or no. But staying hurt when there is a 50% chance that things are unfinished, is worth the rick in my opinion. I'm not sure what happened to make him pull away, but you can just take a chance to try again.

I absolutely adore you for taking the time to help me with this! I’ve toyed with the idea of reaching out to him again but am scared that this is extremely dangerous territory. I’m all or nothing so not sure if I can go into this lightly with no expectations. Are Scorpio Venuses the same?

The intensity I felt from him was raw and palpable. We both agreed that we are very sexually compatible, we do it several times a day, he will last for hours, I could go on. In the beginning, he said that my personality combined with my looks was very attractive to him and he said he didn’t just want to sleep with me. But since I’ve shown him that I lack self-confidence and I’m not quite ready for a relationship, he has sadly scaled back considerably.

He has such amazing self-restraint and self-control so I agree that it’s up to me to start things up again. You’re spot on, I don’t know how modern dating works and he knows that about me too. The last time we spoke, he even told me that if I have confidence in myself and know my self worth, I can’t be afraid to get hurt because the only validation I need in life is my own.

If I do start things up again, I know it will strictly be FWB. I’m not sure how I can separate my feelings from sex so I’m very wary of getting hurt. Especially when things were very intense in the beginning - he would text me all day and want to know everything about me, then it tapered down significantly towards the end when I felt him pull away. But I’m currently seeing another guy so maybe this will help me keep my distance.

I think him closing the million dollar deal with his business venture may have made him want to explore what else is out there. This is exactly what he said to me:

“But I do think its a good idea for you to explore what’s out there. I really do like you, but I think you spent so many years focused on one person you’ve sold yourself short. And to be honest, I have no idea what my perfect partner is either. I know I like you without a doubt, but I spent 8 months single over the last 10 years and have so much going on professionally that I need to recognize now is the time for me to be selfish you know?

I am super down for us to hang out, be friends, and do dirty stuff to each other haha and I would obviously tell you if I have slept with someone else (which I haven’t) but I just don’t feel ready to go into a relationship. Its not because I don’t like you, its just because my wounds from the past are just starting to heal.”

Not sure if he is bullshitting me or not?

This is what I said to him before he proposed FWB:

“When I told you I felt like we could be good friends. I really did feel connected to you emotionally and physically and I let you in completely. I couldn’t hide anything from you anyway because you read me so well. It was intense and scary, it happened so fast. It made me realize that I need to get out more and try to make real connections and have friendships with people. I have a lot of prejudices against others because I’m afraid of getting hurt. Also, that I need to be more assertive with what I want and to communicate better. I want to have self-control and restraint like you do. I’m grateful I met you. It was so short but you had a huge affect on me. I was waiting to tell you all this after giving it a bit more time but you texted me this morning and I thought it was a good time to tell you.”

I wanted to be completely honest with him like I always had been. Not sure if it was a smart move on my part…I should have been more reserved and mysterious when dating someone new. But I just let it all hang out instead.
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You said all that to him in the beginning sentences just to cop out and say "It made me realize that I need to get out more and try to make real connections and have friendships with people"

I would've been irritated lol

You are leading the conversation in the friend-zoning, non commitment area but he is still trying to get access to you.
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

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I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.
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There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

Edited to add this-

I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.

There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.
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Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.

Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

Edited to add this-

I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.

There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.

Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.

Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?
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I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.

If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.

You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.

Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.

Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

Edited to add this-

I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.

There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.

Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.

Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?

I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.

If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.

You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.

Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.

Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.
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He actually saw that I can’t express my emotions well, meaning I can’t quite communicate how I feel. I shoot first, ask questions later. Too impulsive. So I have a lot of work to do on my part.

Thank you so much 🙏🏽 I really want to reach out to him but I’ll sit on it a bit, maybe a week or so, to gather my thoughts and feelings before I do. See if I can let go of obsessive feelings and fears before trying again lol. He’s definitely worth it, Fire Sun with Scorpio Venus? My dream man.
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

Edited to add this-

I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.

There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.

Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.

Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?

I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.

If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.

You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.

Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.

Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.

He actually saw that I can’t express my emotions well, meaning I can’t quite communicate how I feel. I shoot first, ask questions later. Too impulsive. So I have a lot of work to do on my part.

Thank you so much 🙏🏽 I really want to reach out to him but I’ll sit on it a bit, maybe a week or so, to gather my thoughts and feelings before I do. See if I can let go of obsessive feelings and fears before trying again lol. He’s definitely worth it, Fire Sun with Scorpio Venus? My dream man.
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You do realise that a FWB would prob crash and burn with the Venus Pluto synastry?
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Is there a reason why you gave your exclusivity to a man you were in contact with for 1.5 months?

That Pluto Venus aspect is no joke 😬😬😬😬

Be glad if you’ve never experienced it. Lol unlike any other obsession I’ve ever had

I have lots of Pluto/ Mars relationships. But I still don't give exclusivity early. I actually like being distracted so that I don't get too obsessed with one person.

Distractions balance me, so I can get to know the person and make a decision logically. I date others just to fill time. I get obsessed but it's a hands off approach, it's all in my mind.

Edited to add this-

I have Pluto Trine Venus with the guy I'm dating right now.

But it's not plutonian, so I feel no obsession at all and I miss it. It's so different when it's plutonian.

He has Venus in Gemini trine my Pluto in Libra- So it's in air, which is detached and superficial. I don't think it has any effect on me at all. I don't know about him.

I think this is how I should approach dating. Getting to know the other person before finally making a decision to commit. Maybe this is what I need to help myself grow. Instead of liking one person and focusing all my time and energy on them, which hasn’t worked out for me in the past now that I think about it! And it’s silly for me to even expect exclusivity in the beginning stages of dating and not really knowing much about the other person.

Yeah that Plutonian obsession and intensity. I feel like all other relationships that aren’t intense are no longer up to my standards. I hope you’re able to figure it out soon with the guy you’re dating now.

There is no obsession at all with the guy I'm dating. It's boring but maybe that's what I need because just like you were scared in your obsessive relationship, I am fine with it, but usually guys get scared and do the same thing you did.

Then they come back and everything gets messed up because they are constantly fighting it. I don't fight it, I fall into it and enjoy it.

Yeah I’ve heard from many people who met their spouse that it’s a quiet and calm sort of love. No intensity or crazy butterflies.

Did I ruin things with him indefinitely? As a Scorpio Venus, do you think it’s likely that he ruled me out as a potential long term partner?

I don't think he's ruled you out. You are ruling yourself out.

If you want to date him again, then go for it. I've had intense relationships that last too. But when someone is scared, I can also tell and so I will just keep it sexual and won't bother to see about a relationship. Then their fear all the sudden turns into feeling rejected.

You have the advantage because women are better at saying what they feel then men are.

Obsession hides logic and reason, it feels good, but it's annoying because of how good it feels while simultaneously messing everything up because of fear.

Reach out if you want to try again and date him, don't sell yourself short with a fwb situation. Dating is about getting to know a person.

He actually saw that I can’t express my emotions well, meaning I can’t quite communicate how I feel. I shoot first, ask questions later. Too impulsive. So I have a lot of work to do on my part.

Thank you so much 🙏🏽 I really want to reach out to him but I’ll sit on it a bit, maybe a week or so, to gather my thoughts and feelings before I do. See if I can let go of obsessive feelings and fears before trying again lol. He’s definitely worth it, Fire Sun with Scorpio Venus? My dream man.

You do realise that a FWB would prob crash and burn with the Venus Pluto synastry?
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Yeah like Saggurl88 said, I will let him know that I don’t want a FWB but to see if we can date again and start fresh without expectations.

I can’t do FWB, I cannot separate my feelings from sex. I already feel like I love this guy Jesus-Lord-dear-God-help-me-now! I just want to take care of him and give him head rubs 24/7.
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