Gaslighting

This topic was created in the Gemini forum by 777 on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 and has 30 replies.

What Is Gaslighting in Simple Terms

Gaslighting is a form of emotional manipulation where someone makes you doubt your perceptions or reality. It is often used to gain control or power over others. Recognizing gaslighting can help you protect your mental health and establish healthy boundaries.

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All signs can do this. Comes naturally to mutuables. Each do it in there own style . A positive expression on this is spinning and reframing something to find and look at the bright side of things or find the opportunity in the misfortune of the situation.

Edit: the difference between positive and negative is 1 part intent and 3 parts effect/consequence.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

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Posted by 7thHouse

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What water signs do best.

I'd say what air signs do best.

Water signs don't give a crap wether you're ok with what they have to say or not. Air signs like to maintain a perfect picture of themselves so gasligting would be more beneficial for them. Air signs are sneakier in general.

Have you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Look up Lisa Rinna.

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i hate how she's so mean to LVP

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@7thHouse

oh and another thing about RHOBH, they've got a lot of cancer energy on there

that's why i think everyone gets offended over every little thing, gets extremely emotional but also manipulative (i still like cancers though, i mean even LVP though a virgo sun is also a cancer moon)

like everybody on there either had a cancer sun or a cancer moon

isn't that weird? lol

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Posted by CancerAquaSagg

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by CancerAquaSagg

Posted by xXxAliiciaXxX

What water signs do best.

I'd say what air signs do best.

Water signs don't give a crap wether you're ok with what they have to say or not. Air signs like to maintain a perfect picture of themselves so gasligting would be more beneficial for them. Air signs are sneakier in general.

Have you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Look up Lisa Rinna.

Wow so Lisa rinna represents all water signs 🙄. They're all nuts on that show anyway so use a healthier person as an example why dont you.

Trump =all geminis I guess 🙄

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every sign can do it

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Posted by CancerAquaSagg

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@7thHouse

oh and another thing about RHOBH, they've got a lot of cancer energy on there

that's why i think everyone gets offended over every little thing, gets extremely emotional but also manipulative (i still like cancers though, i mean even LVP though a virgo sun is also a cancer moon)

like everybody on there either had a cancer sun or a cancer moon

isn't that weird? lol

Thats interesting. I relate more to Erika Jayne who isn't a drama queen. I share the same birthday as her too I loved her on that show.

But it's true theres a lot of cancer energy in there.

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yeah i love erika jayne coz i favor aqua energy

with all that cancer energy, it was interesting how she manages

but now i understand, it's coz aquas don't give a crap

she'd do whatever she likes

she will tell yolanda about what rinna said and she will NOT wear underwear L O L

and nobody can tell her what to do

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Isn’t it basically lying to another person? I don’t know how this would work and how someone would just believe a liar and go crazy over it, especially when it happens consistently.

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Posted by Phangus

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Isn’t it basically lying to another person? I don’t know how this would work and how someone would just believe a liar and go crazy over it, especially when it happens consistently.

It's refusing to acknowledge a truth someone knows. A mild version would be constantly saying you're not mad when you are in fact mad as hell.

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I don’t think it’s happened to me. But maybe because I don’t argue with people. I’d just end up calling them a liar and wouldn’t go in circles about it.

I would also cut them off pretty quickly. I hate liars.

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I do think it’s a Gemini trait most commonly too... but crazily the person I see gaslighted the most here is a Gemini lol!

You probably quietly thinking of me. If anything, I gets gaslighted the most.

I think the op really mean to say moonlighting. Ain't that right @777

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Posted by akitu

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I do think it’s a Gemini trait most commonly too... but crazily the person I see gaslighted the most here is a Gemini lol!

You probably quietly thinking of me. If anything, I gets gaslighted the most.

I think the op really mean to say moonlighting. Ain't that right @777

No not you, and isn’t moonlighting just a night job you don’t tell anyone about?

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Riiiight! Geminis loves moonlighting. They always have another job right under their current employer's nose.

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Do people gaslight when they get questioned a lot? Is the gaslighting the answer/lie? I can see how this can start arguments.

Does this happen in relationships and friendships?

And is the point to keep trying to prove the other person is lying or try to make someone believe what they are saying?

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Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Do people gaslight when they get questioned a lot? Is the gaslighting the answer/lie? I can see how this can start arguments.

Does this happen in relationships and friendships?

And is the point to keep trying to prove the other person is lying or try to make someone believe what they are saying?

It’s based on a movie, you could watch the movie and see?

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I didn't know there was a movie. I thought he was talking about the term.

What's the movie called?

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Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Do people gaslight when they get questioned a lot? Is the gaslighting the answer/lie? I can see how this can start arguments.

Does this happen in relationships and friendships?

And is the point to keep trying to prove the other person is lying or try to make someone believe what they are saying?

It’s based on a movie, you could watch the movie and see?

I didn't know there was a movie. I thought he was talking about the term.

What's the movie called?

‘Gaslight’ 😂 it’s a really good old classic movie and it’s where the term comes from lol

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1944!!!!! I may try to watch it. Thanks

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Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Do people gaslight when they get questioned a lot? Is the gaslighting the answer/lie? I can see how this can start arguments.

Does this happen in relationships and friendships?

And is the point to keep trying to prove the other person is lying or try to make someone believe what they are saying?

It’s based on a movie, you could watch the movie and see?

I didn't know there was a movie. I thought he was talking about the term.

What's the movie called?

‘Gaslight’ 😂 it’s a really good old classic movie and it’s where the term comes from lol

1944!!!!! I may try to watch it. Thanks

Haha! I love an oldie I think it’s good, but tldw; guy messes with her head makes her think she’s imagining stuff tries to get her committed or something, actually I can’t remember how it ends lol but that’s the jist 🤷‍♀️

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Thanks, seems like it works with people who love mind games. Some actually enjoy a good mind fuck as a form of interest.

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Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Do people gaslight when they get questioned a lot? Is the gaslighting the answer/lie? I can see how this can start arguments.

Does this happen in relationships and friendships?

And is the point to keep trying to prove the other person is lying or try to make someone believe what they are saying?

It’s based on a movie, you could watch the movie and see?

I didn't know there was a movie. I thought he was talking about the term.

What's the movie called?

‘Gaslight’ 😂 it’s a really good old classic movie and it’s where the term comes from lol

1944!!!!! I may try to watch it. Thanks

Haha! I love an oldie I think it’s good, but tldw; guy messes with her head makes her think she’s imagining stuff tries to get her committed or something, actually I can’t remember how it ends lol but that’s the jist 🤷‍♀️

Thanks, seems like it works with people who love mind games. Some actually enjoy a good mind fuck as a form of interest.

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imagine if a guy thinks you're boring coz you don't play mind games

when he's like a 4 and you're not even really that into him yet

i've noticed guys around 3-6 act more manipulative than guys above that number

#compensation

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Basing this off of interactions I have had on here, it’s all across the board. The worst offenders I’ve noticed from dxpnet is a Pisces, by a long shot, and a Cancer. There’s a Taurus who does this a lot too. Just based on a few observations lol.

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Posted by akitu

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Posted by akitu

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Posted by akitu

I do think it’s a Gemini trait most commonly too... but crazily the person I see gaslighted the most here is a Gemini lol!

You probably quietly thinking of me. If anything, I gets gaslighted the most.

I think the op really mean to say moonlighting. Ain't that right @777

No not you, and isn’t moonlighting just a night job you don’t tell anyone about?

Riiiight! Geminis loves moonlighting. They always have another job right under their current employer's nose.

Yeah they’d be likely to have a side hustle tbf, don’t think that’s what op meant but ur right

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Yeah deep down I know that's not what he meant. I just like to mess with Virgo men's head most of the times.

Just like the op I had to Google gaslight too before I quoted you the first time. And for the manifistation of the topic I agree with what I red from some of the others. Anybody can gaslight anybody. All signs are guilty of it.

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Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by akitu

Posted by saggurl88

Do people gaslight when they get questioned a lot? Is the gaslighting the answer/lie? I can see how this can start arguments.

Does this happen in relationships and friendships?

And is the point to keep trying to prove the other person is lying or try to make someone believe what they are saying?

It’s based on a movie, you could watch the movie and see?

I didn't know there was a movie. I thought he was talking about the term.

What's the movie called?

‘Gaslight’ 😂 it’s a really good old classic movie and it’s where the term comes from lol

1944!!!!! I may try to watch it. Thanks

Haha! I love an oldie I think it’s good, but tldw; guy messes with her head makes her think she’s imagining stuff tries to get her committed or something, actually I can’t remember how it ends lol but that’s the jist 🤷‍♀️

Thanks, seems like it works with people who love mind games. Some actually enjoy a good mind fuck as a form of interest.

I think some idiots just think they’re clever 🤷‍♀️

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lol Probably. I'm gonna start lying to guys that I don't communicate with.

"I texted you 2 days ago, yesterday and today and you didn't text me back, why—?!!!!"

"I left you a voicemail, are you ignoring me?? I don't understand. I've been so good at trying to reach out and you don't care about me, you wont return my calls or texts!"

All the while sitting on my ass and doing none of it. LMAO

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Well, yeah, there are quite a few signs that in their negative expression can and will gaslight you. People gaslight others all the time. I find it to be a very insidious and almost undetectable thing at times because the truth is that people who are actually gaslighting you will never, ever admit it. IMO, its also is not something they are aware of themselves - most narcissists believe themselves to be just. They don't think they're gaslighting, they're just trying to convince you of the truth - their truth - the only truth that matters to them.

This, I find, is a mindset that we are being socialized with. It would follow that a society pushing narcissism as individuality and that individuality is good would have a surplus of people whose primary form of interaction is narcissistic. Monkey see monkey do.

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Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by CancerAquaSagg

Posted by xXxAliiciaXxX

What water signs do best.

I'd say what air signs do best.

Water signs don't give a crap wether you're ok with what they have to say or not. Air signs like to maintain a perfect picture of themselves so gasligting would be more beneficial for them. Air signs are sneakier in general.

Have you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Look up Lisa Rinna.

i hate how she's so mean to LVP

Yup. And she lies. All the time.

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she acts like a villain and looks like one

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Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by CancerAquaSagg

Posted by xXxAliiciaXxX

What water signs do best.

I'd say what air signs do best.

Water signs don't give a crap wether you're ok with what they have to say or not. Air signs like to maintain a perfect picture of themselves so gasligting would be more beneficial for them. Air signs are sneakier in general.

Have you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Look up Lisa Rinna.

i hate how she's so mean to LVP

Yup. And she lies. All the time.

she acts like a villain and looks like one

Yup. Remember that episode with Yolanda. She lied about not starting the gossip that Yolanda isn't sick and then pointed a finger at LVP lol

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i actually feel bad for yolanda

but she's no innocent with her favoritism amongst her children

and she's a sag moon so she's all about the self-victimizing schtick

not wearing makeup isn't a crime against humanity though

and LVP and Ken are so sweet, you seen that one where Ken walked out and LVP got so upset and followed him? so cute 😍😍

the one where yolanda got mad

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Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by CancerAquaSagg

Posted by xXxAliiciaXxX

What water signs do best.

I'd say what air signs do best.

Water signs don't give a crap wether you're ok with what they have to say or not. Air signs like to maintain a perfect picture of themselves so gasligting would be more beneficial for them. Air signs are sneakier in general.

Have you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Look up Lisa Rinna.

i hate how she's so mean to LVP

Yup. And she lies. All the time.

she acts like a villain and looks like one

Yup. Remember that episode with Yolanda. She lied about not starting the gossip that Yolanda isn't sick and then pointed a finger at LVP lol

i actually feel bad for yolanda

but she's no innocent with her favoritism amongst her children

and she's a sag moon so she's all about the self-victimizing schtick

not wearing makeup isn't a crime against humanity though

and LVP and Ken are so sweet, you seen that one where Ken walked out and LVP got so upset and followed him? so cute 😍😍

the one where yolanda got mad

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Pisces moon claiming sag moon are self victimizing..........

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Posted by nanorobot

I think men use this tactic a lot more than women, at least in my experience

“I never said that”

“I never did that”

“You aren’t remembering it right”

“I DID do/say that.... don’t you remember??”

“You must be imagining things”

It is a gross tactic. My gem does it all the time regarding things he doesn’t like to acknowledge or things that he wish he could go back and change. It must have worked well on his exes or something. But I notice that his mom does it a lot too.

This doesn’t work on me, because I know that simply saying something does not make it true. And I have the memory of an elephant. You can’t go back and alter interactions that already took place to fit your needs at the moment

I’ve known many men (esp Scorpio moons) to use these psychological maneuvers on women

My guy friend who is a Gemini has done this and deflection. Ugh, drives me nuts.

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Posted by WateryGem

Posted by nanorobot

I think men use this tactic a lot more than women, at least in my experience

“I never said that”

“I never did that”

“You aren’t remembering it right”

“I DID do/say that.... don’t you remember??”

“You must be imagining things”

It is a gross tactic. My gem does it all the time regarding things he doesn’t like to acknowledge or things that he wish he could go back and change. It must have worked well on his exes or something. But I notice that his mom does it a lot too.

This doesn’t work on me, because I know that simply saying something does not make it true. And I have the memory of an elephant. You can’t go back and alter interactions that already took place to fit your needs at the moment

I’ve known many men (esp Scorpio moons) to use these psychological maneuvers on women

My guy friend who is a Gemini has done this and deflection. Ugh, drives me nuts.

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He is also a Taurus Moon, Mercury and Venus with Leo Mars. I honestly think it might all that Taurus energy bc my mom used to be this way.

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Posted by 7thHouse

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Posted by CancerAquaSagg

Posted by xXxAliiciaXxX

What water signs do best.

I'd say what air signs do best.

Water signs don't give a crap wether you're ok with what they have to say or not. Air signs like to maintain a perfect picture of themselves so gasligting would be more beneficial for them. Air signs are sneakier in general.

Have you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Look up Lisa Rinna.

i hate how she's so mean to LVP

Yup. And she lies. All the time.

she acts like a villain and looks like one

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lol @ looks like one too! 😆

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Posted by 7thHouse

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Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by virgoOPPP

Posted by 7thHouse

Posted by CancerAquaSagg

Posted by xXxAliiciaXxX

What water signs do best.

I'd say what air signs do best.

Water signs don't give a crap wether you're ok with what they have to say or not. Air signs like to maintain a perfect picture of themselves so gasligting would be more beneficial for them. Air signs are sneakier in general.

Have you watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Look up Lisa Rinna.

i hate how she's so mean to LVP

Yup. And she lies. All the time.

she acts like a villain and looks like one

Yup. Remember that episode with Yolanda. She lied about not starting the gossip that Yolanda isn't sick and then pointed a finger at LVP lol

i actually feel bad for yolanda

but she's no innocent with her favoritism amongst her children

and she's a sag moon so she's all about the self-victimizing schtick

not wearing makeup isn't a crime against humanity though

and LVP and Ken are so sweet, you seen that one where Ken walked out and LVP got so upset and followed him? so cute 😍😍

the one where yolanda got mad

Yeah I remember that hahaha. Between Yolanda and Lisa R. I'm all for Yolanda. Between LVP and Lisa R. I'm all for LVP and between LVP and Yolanda I'm all for LVP. Although Yolanda is sick, I don't sense that she's very genuine towards her friends.

But.... My ultimate favorite are Eileen and Erika hahahahah

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it's annoying though how everyone got manipulated into hating LVP

mahh poor queen 😭😭😭😭

Kyle's a real traitor and you see her trying to imitate LVP's hair?

sad