lisabeth
@lisabethur8
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Posted by GuardianAnuhm sorry to hear about being emotionally abused as a child, but i dont know what it is...but plenty of folks/individuals have been abused both phsyically and mentally and emotionally...all of it and they still are not traumatized anymore. I dont know what it is...Posted by lisabethur8Because people never lie about cheating, or breaking the relationship boundaries. Some people are really good liars and I think it is smart to do some snooping if you really feel like you need to know if they are lying about something you really do not want to live with. I think that finding out yourself on your own terms is better than being blissfully unaware for a while until you catch them doing that thing they know they shouldn't be doing. That's self preservation, as I see it. If you've been emotionally abused growing up it is hard to trust your own instincts, as well, after being gaslit all the time.Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11why dont you just ASK him?
I realised I didn't answer the question, yes I do snoop, yes I NEED to know, no I'm not afraid of what I'll find.
I love my guy and he's very upfront about people approaching him on the Internet and for that I fucking applaud him because no one has taken my feelings into consideration like that....but my instincts are pretty powerful when it comes to piecing things together and I don't believe in privacy in relationships, what's the point of being in one if you're not transparent?
you dont believe in privacy in relationships??
i thought you are Scorpio moon??click to expand
Posted by Vixen2oh that's why Scorpiofish kind of referred that you did before. when you said that you had done it in the past.
I just don't feel it's necessary to snoop. I mean, it's something I just wouldn't strive to do...it's insecure and something I feel that's beneath my moral character. As I stated previously...trust is a huge huge factor to me in a relationship, if you don't have it, your relationship is doomed-period. I'm not saying I have never done it...I have, and it didn't turn out well...hence learning an invaluable lesson as to why I don't do it. I've also had it done to me which was not appreciated in the least with accusations so far out there and incorrect...it ruined a relationship. If I had concrete evidence of wrong doing and communication wasn't going anywhere with my partner...I may go down that road, it certainly would have to a last resort and I would most definetly would not be proud of it. But I also know going down that road is just the signal to the end which is imminent, so why bother at that point.


Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberaw. that's my brother in law's placement. he doesn't have to worry about his woman.Posted by lisabethur8I was just teasing her, since I used to snoop all the time myself.Posted by Vixen2oh that's why Scorpiofish kind of referred that you did before. when you said that you had done it in the past.
I just don't feel it's necessary to snoop. I mean, it's something I just wouldn't strive to do...it's insecure and something I feel that's beneath my moral character. As I stated previously...trust is a huge huge factor to me in a relationship, if you don't have it, your relationship is doomed-period. I'm not saying I have never done it...I have, and it didn't turn out well...hence learning an invaluable lesson as to why I don't do it. I've also had it done to me which was not appreciated in the least with accusations so far out there and incorrect...it ruined a relationship. If I had concrete evidence of wrong doing and communication wasn't going anywhere with my partner...I may go down that road, it certainly would have to a last resort and I would most definetly would not be proud of it. But I also know going down that road is just the signal to the end which is imminent, so why bother at that point.
everyone learns, Vixen. 🙂
we all are learning about individuals and other people's lives, and their career choices and upbringing here. (if they choose to mention it of course!)
I have Mars in Cancer, haha.click to expand
Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11lol jeeez. finding your mother's dildo would traumatize me!!! i mean geez.
What it boils down to is havi g a curious investigative mind, I've always had it and have been poking my nose where it shouldn't, I went through my parents cupboards when I was young and found my mums dildo, I went through my brothers and found their porn stash, it's just my instinct to dig,
I'm a homebody but I have two jobs and a drag career that I'm trying to flesh out....
The thing is I know I am able to trust someone, even my boyfriend but I like to indulge, maybe I shouldn't give into my vices
Posted by The_eleventh_sign_11hm who wants to know? maybe people arent interested and if they are, just say none of your business. It sounds like you have this internal struggle with yourself and no one even knows or minds.
The thing is guys that trust is something you build over time, as an Aquarian IKNOW that people aren't perfect and that shit happens, I KNOW this to my core and not knowing something eats away at more core and I just give into it now and then, another thing is that we've been dating for 9 months now so this is still time to have insecurities in our lives, he knows that I'm crazy for him and would never cheat, I know that he's a libran and is easily swayed by a pretty face.
Having a Scorpio moon means I need to dig shit up now and then to create a bit of drama in my life, I used to hate hate hate having my dirty laundry aired infront of everyone but not anymore, I have so many secrets and holding onto them makes me paranoid, I'm scared that I'll tell them in my sleep and people will hear which is why I'm very open about everything, but I guess it's also to disguise that I have more secrets that I don't ever want to surface.


Posted by Damnatathe problem with that story is that i'm surprised the woman didnt feel something was "up"!!!
I'll say this: your right to privacy isn't more important than my right to safety.
However:
1) I am not a jealous person at all
2) I don't use hunches as legit motives to go through someone's stuff.
3) I also had my diary read by my leo mother and it was a traumatic event so I have deep respect for privacy.
4) I will give you all my passwords if you need them because I have nothing to hide. I won't expect yours in return.
.....I only did it once. After my cap ex told me he cheated on me..I waited til he went to bed so I could read all the conversations with that woman. Might seem masochistic for some but I needed clarity and to see exactly how it unfolded without me being aware of it. I also had to delete...some stuff because no way those things were allowed to stay in the possession of someone who had no character. I didn't use any of it to start an argument...at that point we had parted ways already.
However I know of one scenario where this woman, who also respected privacy, didn't follow up on stuff. She and her partner were using the pill as a contraceptive after they both had medical exams done. Long term relationship. One day she wakes up with herpes, because her partner cheated on her and raw dogged all the shady chicks he was banging. Now herpes is a lifelong problem and it will affect all her future partnerships. In this case, again, her health should have been more important than his privacy because it will affect her forever from this point on. The nerve cheaters have to go "You looked through my stuff!". Well, buddy, you were carrying a deception here that could've harmed me so them's the breaks on your entitlement.
Posted by DwellingOnMovedwelling there is something not right about you sometimes... in how you reply around here.
"her health should have been more important than his privacy because it will affect her forever from this point on."
yup

Posted by lisabethur8see, this feeling of something being "up"...some people lack it. some cheaters are very very good at compartimentalizing their lives. I read so many interviews with serial killers' wives (gary ridgeway's struck me in particular) and it's amazing how they don't suspect it. Model husbands and fathers some of them.Posted by Damnatathe problem with that story is that i'm surprised the woman didnt feel something was "up"!!!
I'll say this: your right to privacy isn't more important than my right to safety.
However:
1) I am not a jealous person at all
2) I don't use hunches as legit motives to go through someone's stuff.
3) I also had my diary read by my leo mother and it was a traumatic event so I have deep respect for privacy.
4) I will give you all my passwords if you need them because I have nothing to hide. I won't expect yours in return.
.....I only did it once. After my cap ex told me he cheated on me..I waited til he went to bed so I could read all the conversations with that woman. Might seem masochistic for some but I needed clarity and to see exactly how it unfolded without me being aware of it. I also had to delete...some stuff because no way those things were allowed to stay in the possession of someone who had no character. I didn't use any of it to start an argument...at that point we had parted ways already.
However I know of one scenario where this woman, who also respected privacy, didn't follow up on stuff. She and her partner were using the pill as a contraceptive after they both had medical exams done. Long term relationship. One day she wakes up with herpes, because her partner cheated on her and raw dogged all the shady chicks he was banging. Now herpes is a lifelong problem and it will affect all her future partnerships. In this case, again, her health should have been more important than his privacy because it will affect her forever from this point on. The nerve cheaters have to go "You looked through my stuff!". Well, buddy, you were carrying a deception here that could've harmed me so them's the breaks on your entitlement.
well we can't control what other people do though. its sad what they did, but it happens everywhere. what can you do?
put up precautions that's it. For those folks who stray like that.
yes it's awful but honestly theres nothing we can do.click to expand
Posted by DamnataPosted by lisabethur8see, this feeling of something being "up"...some people lack it. some cheaters are very very good at compartimentalizing their lives. I read so many interviews with serial killers' wives (gary ridgeway's struck me in particular) and it's amazing how they don't suspect it. Model husbands and fathers some of them.Posted by Damnatathe problem with that story is that i'm surprised the woman didnt feel something was "up"!!!
I'll say this: your right to privacy isn't more important than my right to safety.
However:
1) I am not a jealous person at all
2) I don't use hunches as legit motives to go through someone's stuff.
3) I also had my diary read by my leo mother and it was a traumatic event so I have deep respect for privacy.
4) I will give you all my passwords if you need them because I have nothing to hide. I won't expect yours in return.
.....I only did it once. After my cap ex told me he cheated on me..I waited til he went to bed so I could read all the conversations with that woman. Might seem masochistic for some but I needed clarity and to see exactly how it unfolded without me being aware of it. I also had to delete...some stuff because no way those things were allowed to stay in the possession of someone who had no character. I didn't use any of it to start an argument...at that point we had parted ways already.
However I know of one scenario where this woman, who also respected privacy, didn't follow up on stuff. She and her partner were using the pill as a contraceptive after they both had medical exams done. Long term relationship. One day she wakes up with herpes, because her partner cheated on her and raw dogged all the shady chicks he was banging. Now herpes is a lifelong problem and it will affect all her future partnerships. In this case, again, her health should have been more important than his privacy because it will affect her forever from this point on. The nerve cheaters have to go "You looked through my stuff!". Well, buddy, you were carrying a deception here that could've harmed me so them's the breaks on your entitlement.
well we can't control what other people do though. its sad what they did, but it happens everywhere. what can you do?
put up precautions that's it. For those folks who stray like that.
yes it's awful but honestly theres nothing we can do.click to expand
i'm saying that our commitment to our health and safety can bypass privacy sometimes and for good reason. note: i don't endorse crazy paranoid behavior here. outside relationships there's a world of cir

Posted by lisabethur8
do you snoop into your significant other's Phone, personal belongings and why?
Posted by lisabethur8This is a topic about being snoopy or not and if someone people see the necessity under some circumstances.
i dont know why some of you folks are trying to convince others to be snoopy. it's very annoying.
it's like you think it's gonna change people's mind and start snooping on their signifcan other. Well if they want to do that, let them!!click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8I agree on that.
btw, damnata, i just thought of something....
i dont trust those types of husband you mentioned where they are "model" type husbands. there is something suspicious....about that.
kind of a like a cardboard cut out model that isn't real.
Posted by Damnatalol no no i like that you wrote your views. dont mind me being really passionate about it. 😛 you should know by now how i get around here over certain subjects or what i feel about stuff. i sometimes get carried away.Posted by lisabethur8
do you snoop into your significant other's Phone, personal belongings and why?Posted by lisabethur8This is a topic about being snoopy or not and if someone people see the necessity under some circumstances.
i dont know why some of you folks are trying to convince others to be snoopy. it's very annoying.
it's like you think it's gonna change people's mind and start snooping on their signifcan other. Well if they want to do that, let them!!
I do. All I'm doing is expressing my views on it, not convincing others of anything. You asked why.
As for the serial killer and "what are they going to do?". I am not expecting them to do anything but I would get the hell out of that marriage if my husband is a serial killer and report him to the police while I'm at. So yeah, it kinda matters a lot.
Maybe I misread the topic and it was just a rhetoric pondering in which you needed no replies other than "I agree, snooping is wrong under all circumstances".
Over and out.click to expand


Posted by lisabethur8Oh yeah, to this day I don't know what to think of that wife. My gut feeling tells me she knew, only because he spent so many hours in the basement and taking food there. But maybe he was that strong of a manipulator. Still the fact that the would go to that basement carrying food and spend a lot of times...that alone would have made me look into it, especially after my child disappeared. Sketchy situation for sure.Posted by Damnatalol no no i like that you wrote your views. dont mind me being really passionate about it. 😛 you should know by now how i get around here over certain subjects or what i feel about stuff. i sometimes get carried away.Posted by lisabethur8
do you snoop into your significant other's Phone, personal belongings and why?Posted by lisabethur8This is a topic about being snoopy or not and if someone people see the necessity under some circumstances.
i dont know why some of you folks are trying to convince others to be snoopy. it's very annoying.
it's like you think it's gonna change people's mind and start snooping on their signifcan other. Well if they want to do that, let them!!
I do. All I'm doing is expressing my views on it, not convincing others of anything. You asked why.
As for the serial killer and "what are they going to do?". I am not expecting them to do anything but I would get the hell out of that marriage if my husband is a serial killer and report him to the police while I'm at. So yeah, it kinda matters a lot.
Maybe I misread the topic and it was just a rhetoric pondering in which you needed no replies other than "I agree, snooping is wrong under all circumstances".
Over and out.
and the story of serial killers....
what about the one that was in AUSTRIA?? how come no one from Austria comes here to post on dxp?
the horrible story of Josef Fritz—
he had a WIFE and children in the house and she didnt know—?click to expand
Posted by Damnatathats interesting. i dont know any man that would do that. it seems strategic and well, calculating. well in the end, it's all good.
I guess I am also in the minority of cases here since the way I approach privacy isn't geared ...just out of mistrust of being cheated on. There are many other ways in which someone could deceive and I will uncover it all. Cheating would be the least of my worries if I have strong facts backing me up on that need to see what comes to surface.
There's also a level of bluffing some people are profficient at. For example, my Cap ex (I don't regret anything from that relationship..up until 2-3 months before the end but even then) gave me all his passwords unasked. He was BANKING on me having strong character and not snooping on him. I had all this passwords and didn't even go looking for stuff...although that would have saved me the last months of that relationship because I would've found out. So he exploited my quality of being fair with my partners and having a lot of trust in them. I don't regret not snooping and only reading it after he told me he had someone else..but it makes me ponder. Smart tactic on his part though.

Posted by aquapiscescuspgive an example?
Wait I have to say I did snoop big time but it was to get to the truth. Does that count?
Posted by DamnataPosted by lisabethur8Oh yeah, to this day I don't know what to think of that wife. My gut feeling tells me she knew, only because he spent so many hours in the basement and taking food there. But maybe he was that strong of a manipulator. Still the fact that the would go to that basement carrying food and spend a lot of times...that alone would have made me look into it, especially after my child disappeared. Sketchy situation for sure.Posted by Damnatalol no no i like that you wrote your views. dont mind me being really passionate about it. 😛 you should know by now how i get around here over certain subjects or what i feel about stuff. i sometimes get carried away.Posted by lisabethur8
do you snoop into your significant other's Phone, personal belongings and why?Posted by lisabethur8This is a topic about being snoopy or not and if someone people see the necessity under some circumstances.
i dont know why some of you folks are trying to convince others to be snoopy. it's very annoying.
it's like you think it's gonna change people's mind and start snooping on their signifcan other. Well if they want to do that, let them!!
I do. All I'm doing is expressing my views on it, not convincing others of anything. You asked why.
As for the serial killer and "what are they going to do?". I am not expecting them to do anything but I would get the hell out of that marriage if my husband is a serial killer and report him to the police while I'm at. So yeah, it kinda matters a lot.
Maybe I misread the topic and it was just a rhetoric pondering in which you needed no replies other than "I agree, snooping is wrong under all circumstances".
Over and out.
and the story of serial killers....
what about the one that was in AUSTRIA?? how come no one from Austria comes here to post on dxp?
the horrible story of Josef Fritz—
he had a WIFE and children in the house and she didnt know—?click to expand


Posted by lisabethur8There was a phone number on my bill that was long distance... It wasn't unusual because we both had friends in another city and HE kept in touch with quite a few because of work.Posted by aquapiscescuspgive an example?
Wait I have to say I did snoop big time but it was to get to the truth. Does that count?click to expand

Posted by lisabethur8I think we underestimate how important status quo and stability is. Maybe she knew but was scared he'd kill her or had nowhere to go...it has to be a shock you cannot recover easily from. So you sweep it under the carpet and look the other way because you cannot have it in you to change this reality. You'd rather not have it exist at all.
but he might have been a SOURCE for her, because where would she go— she had no more family but him and her children that she bore for him. It's sad for her though. She did bore his children, clean his house did everything for him like a yes sir yes sir...and i even read that he took vacations WITHOUT her....
it's so sad. the entire thing. but she had no where to go.
Posted by Damnataah i see, that 8th house moon. it's hard for scorpionic types. if they dont feel that you love them (just an example) that they can trsut you with their life, they can't help it. they need security.
I think the hard part with privacy is that both the honest man and the liar will be outraged at it and use the same reply, but for different motives.
Honest man/Liar : "Why would you go looking through my stuff? Have you no trust in me?"
honest person => really outraged on a moral sense because they feel their character should speak volumes.
liar => outraged because his deception will be uncovered.
That's why I have no problems showing people my stuff if they are not some jealous paranoid freak. It will put them at ease. I used to be so outraged at the mere notion of having to prove myself in that way but I realize there are fucked up people there so if I show you there's nothing to worry about concerning me, then a better understanding and trust can be achieved. This has to come from a genuine concern and not from demands. I'd have to credit my Aries ex for this..he has an 8th house moon so trust does not come easy for him. He didn't test me or snoop but if he had concerns, I was more than happy to alleviate those. I also have a lot of male friends and I understand why this might be suspicious to a man dating me....so they get to meet them and stuff.
One thing I am digging my heels in for...is the scenario where a friend confides a secret in me. In that istance, I cannot share it. I will have to find other ways to make you see they're just a friend, other than that specific tidbit.
Posted by aquapiscescuspjesus, Apc. O__OPosted by lisabethur8There was a phone number on my bill that was long distance... It wasn't unusual because we both had friends in another city and HE kept in touch with quite a few because of work.Posted by aquapiscescuspgive an example?
Wait I have to say I did snoop big time but it was to get to the truth. Does that count?
But one number stood out. The time, 2am?
Red flag! I didn't think much of it until other red flags were popping up, he was extremely jealous and caused me to break up with him after many arguments over crazy insinuations on his part.
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Posted by aquapiscescuspYou know, only after the break up with the Cap I realized this. He was never jealous, except for the moment he started cheating on me. I read somewhere that the mindset is something like "Well if I can pull this off, then the other person may have been cheating on me too". I didn't read it like this..I thought I had done something wrong to have him change into someone jealous out of the blue so like a moron I kept reassuring..the cheater. It's actually funny.
he was extremely jealous and caused me to break up with him after many arguments over crazy insinuations on his part.
Posted by lisabethur8after posting this...i am at times a drama queen. I am confrontational about stuff. *smh* cause i would see RED, my heart palpilating and irises dilating...my breathing uneven...my goodness. i know myself i would freak. i can't stay calm...Posted by aquapiscescuspjesus, Apc. O__OPosted by lisabethur8There was a phone number on my bill that was long distance... It wasn't unusual because we both had friends in another city and HE kept in touch with quite a few because of work.Posted by aquapiscescuspgive an example?
Wait I have to say I did snoop big time but it was to get to the truth. Does that count?
But one number stood out. The time, 2am?
Red flag! I didn't think much of it until other red flags were popping up, he was extremely jealous and caused me to break up with him after many arguments over crazy insinuations on his part.
yeah i would be like asking straight up though.
then ask him, prove it to me that this number is just bogus. Call them up now!!
or let me call them up.
that's a rough situation 😢
glad you got out.click to expand

Posted by DamnataThis is classic! The cheater obsessing over you cheating on him.Posted by aquapiscescuspYou know, only after the break up with the Cap I realized this. He was never jealous, except for the moment he started cheating on me. I read somewhere that the mindset is something like "Well if I can pull this off, then the other person may have been cheating on me too". I didn't read it like this..I thought I had done something wrong to have him change into someone jealous out of the blue so like a moron I kept reassuring..the cheater. It's actually funny.
he was extremely jealous and caused me to break up with him after many arguments over crazy insinuations on his part.
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Posted by lisabethur8I would assume an emergency, like a friend texting him they're in trouble and he needs to go help them. I got out of house at weird hours for friends before.
anyway, who would he call at 2am?
unless he is a doctor?

Posted by lisabethur8Lololol @ Doctor!
anyway, who would he call at 2am?
unless he is a doctor?


Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMemberWhat are you doing with a camera taking photos from the other side, piscean?
Posted by aquapiscescuspthat is weird. 😕Posted by DamnataThis is classic! The cheater obsessing over you cheating on him.Posted by aquapiscescuspYou know, only after the break up with the Cap I realized this. He was never jealous, except for the moment he started cheating on me. I read somewhere that the mindset is something like "Well if I can pull this off, then the other person may have been cheating on me too". I didn't read it like this..I thought I had done something wrong to have him change into someone jealous out of the blue so like a moron I kept reassuring..the cheater. It's actually funny.
he was extremely jealous and caused me to break up with him after many arguments over crazy insinuations on his part.
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Posted by aquapiscescuspSo fucked up when stereotypes come true.
You're giving that idiot too much credit. He was a musician...
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however, the ex was toxic, so was the 2nd ex and i knew it was not in this lifetime. 2nd ex died, and passed away (probably because he was a bad man and did bad things to people *shrug* who knows what the universe does? maybe he still hurt and abused his new wife with his children. maybe he abused them, and maybe God said that's ENOUGH and to take him away from them because the innocent children wont be able to handle it.
that's my guess.
just remembering and thinking about the cruelty of some folks.