Can an Aqua man ever dive deep?

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Hey, I’m new to this site.

My issue has been my on/off again Aquarius boyfriend. We tried to really make it work once and for all mid last year, but it seems to be falling apart again. I’m an Aries sun Gem moon. He’s an Aqua sun, Libra moon. I love him very much for being caring, kind, and our conversations are great. However, I can’t seem to get passed how cold he can be. He is also very closed off when it comes to anything I would describe as REAL stuff. Like the convos have to be light, funny etc in order to keep going. Otherwise he just shuts down. It gives me the feeling that we don’t truly know one another.

I have left before for these reasons and I even tell him why straight up. He always insists he will work on things but never actually does. He gets so upset that I don’t just accept his lame “working on it” and wants us to go back to having sex and have silly conversations like nothing is wrong. It makes me feel crazy how much I am the only one who seems to care about our issues and can’t just let them go.

He also has a female best friend who I feel crosses a line for many reasons but he just doesn’t see it.

Anyway, any insight into why an Aqua may keep someone around with no intention of working on issues. Or. If an Aqua man can ever really do that deep dive into intimacy for a woman he claims to truly love? It just seems like he doesn’t see the point in such a thing, whereas I feel that’s all that matters. The compromise just isn’t happening and yet we both can’t seem to let go.
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First of all. Yes, without a doubt. When they are truly happy.

Aquarius want to be accepted by who they are and you want him to change. The more you don’t accept him the more he will close off.

When they feel loved, accepted and supported they open up and will do anything to keep you happy.

If you cannot do that, you should move on because that is how it works with aquas.
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Posted by DonnaLibra

What deep conversations do you want to have? About what? I've a Libra moon and sometimes when people want a deep convo my eyes start rolling around in my head. It makes me nervous. Maybe air sun and moon are just like that.


Well we live together and we have been separated for quite a few weeks, I only go joke every now and then for clothes and things. When I’m there it would be nice to talk about where our feelings are at in regards to one another, if there’s a future together, how we can mend things that are broken, apologizing for any mean things said (both of us), etc. just clearing the air I suppose.

He definitely has this “I want whatever you want” response to things and that is an enormous amount of pressure on me. I just wish he would come to me with ideas or how he truly feels without me saying it and him just saying “me too.” Is that pretty normal of a Libra moon or does that mean he just doesn’t want to make effort to truly communicate his needs?
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Tbh if he gave up then I can at least move on. A move in either direction would relieve some of the stress I’m feeling. This stale mate or catch 22 of him saying he wants to be with me and work it out, but then not want to actually talk about issues or not want to change, and then me upset because things don’t change, is getting old. But when I reflect, I do believe he is there for me and trying what he can. He also said he would try to open up more but that it would take time. But how much time? It’s like he always says the right thing, but never does it.

I’ll admit that I probably fixate on feelings. I have a lot of trauma and for a relationship to feel secure I need a lot of communication and openness. Which he doesn’t provide. Knowing this, he still has gotten back together with me and still says he wants to work things out. I think maybe trust has been broken and my feelings are more hurt than he realizes, otherwise I think he would be doing all he could, as some have said he would be doing as an Aqua male.

It’s not really my way or the highway, I’m willing to listen and see what he needs. But he just doesn’t communicate that. He admits he has a fear of me leaving him and it gives him anxiety. I think that anxiety is controlling his inability to really say how he feels.

I’ve never had such a difficult time deciding whether to stay or end a relationship before. Usually it’s pretty clear so that’s why I’m so disturbed by all this.
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"When I’m there it would be nice to talk about where our feelings are at in regards to one another, if there’s a future together, how we can mend things that are broken, apologizing for any mean things said (both of us), etc. just clearing the air I suppose."

You need to have a lot of patience with Aqua males, they are relationship idiots. Feelings? Forget it! Ask what he like about you instead.

Ask where do you see your relationship in 12 months time. He probably doesn't have a clue. If you see yourself married and pregnant, tell him. He told you he wants what you want, so...
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Are the deep things you want to talk about actually "where are we going?" conversations? I don't consider that "deep talk" so your question might be throwing people off. "Deep" to me is discussing one's greatest fears and secrets. Deciding what you're doing is something you usually only have to do when one person is dragging their feet and doesn't actually want a relationship.


To me the fears and secrets are part of discussing where we are going. Especially now that the relationship is in question, I feel like it only makes sense to say how we truly feel, what hurts us, what would make us feel loved again, why we really love each other. Things like that. All these surface level, cordial conversations are doing nothing for me when it comes to really feeling like the relationship has a future.
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Why do you have to wait until he decides that he is done. You sound almost as crazy as you make him sound.


Well I’ve already left the apartment aside from moving my furniture and things. I wouldn’t feel right completely abandoning a relationship I’ve invested so much into without really understanding what went wrong. Also he says he wants to work things out and that I need to be patient. So it’s kind of been a waiting game to see what he means by that ?
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He's never gonna be that emotive expressive person that you crave. That's his personality. You don't want to try to change him. It's like asking a cat to be a dog. Unless you can appreciate him as he is it's probably not gonna work. You need a scorpio influenced person...


I dated a Scorpio moon a while back and he scared me 😂 it was great until he started accusing me of seeing other guys when I wasn’t, and he showed up at my job unannounced to apologize. I damn near had a heart attack. But I’m guessing that was a more immature Scorpio
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Why do you have to wait until he decides that he is done. You sound almost as crazy as you make him sound.

Well I’ve already left the apartment aside from moving my furniture and things. I wouldn’t feel right completely abandoning a relationship I’ve invested so much into without really understanding what went wrong. Also he says he wants to work things out and that I need to be patient. So it’s kind of been a waiting game to see what he means by that ?
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ok then, just wait for it
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What deep conversations do you want to have? About what? I've a Libra moon and sometimes when people want a deep convo my eyes start rolling around in my head. It makes me nervous. Maybe air sun and moon are just like that.

Well we live together and we have been separated for quite a few weeks, I only go joke every now and then for clothes and things. When I’m there it would be nice to talk about where our feelings are at in regards to one another, if there’s a future together, how we can mend things that are broken, apologizing for any mean things said (both of us), etc. just clearing the air I suppose.

He definitely has this “I want whatever you want” response to things and that is an enormous amount of pressure on me. I just wish he would come to me with ideas or how he truly feels without me saying it and him just saying “me too.” Is that pretty normal of a Libra moon or does that mean he just doesn’t want to make effort to truly communicate his needs?

Why don't you believe him? He has to want something different to appear authentic? I don't get this thread. You want him to contribute with some ideas? Maybe he wants you to lead.
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Well for example, he said he never wanted kids. And when I mentioned I wanted them he was like me too. And marriage, he said it’s a scam and pointless. And when I mentioned I would want us to get married one day he said me too. He says he changed his mind because I wanted those things. Other times if we are arguing and I say I don’t think this relationship will work, he agrees and says me neither. Then when I start to makes plans to move things he tells me he wants to talk.

At this point I think I just need to grow the pair to leave. I don’t want to make him change if he’s happy the way he is. I guess I did think maybe he would be more emotionally open in a long term relationship but that hasn’t been the case. He admits he won’t be happy unless he works on it but he’s not working on it.
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What deep conversations do you want to have? About what? I've a Libra moon and sometimes when people want a deep convo my eyes start rolling around in my head. It makes me nervous. Maybe air sun and moon are just like that.

Well we live together and we have been separated for quite a few weeks, I only go joke every now and then for clothes and things. When I’m there it would be nice to talk about where our feelings are at in regards to one another, if there’s a future together, how we can mend things that are broken, apologizing for any mean things said (both of us), etc. just clearing the air I suppose.

He definitely has this “I want whatever you want” response to things and that is an enormous amount of pressure on me. I just wish he would come to me with ideas or how he truly feels without me saying it and him just saying “me too.” Is that pretty normal of a Libra moon or does that mean he just doesn’t want to make effort to truly communicate his needs?
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Yes kind of. I just don't know what to say half the time in that position so I just go along. Don't bring this stuff up too much or he'll get bored. But that's not fair to you so say what you want and he'll just have to deal with it or ghost.
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Posted by thatlibralife

He's never gonna be that emotive expressive person that you crave. That's his personality. You don't want to try to change him. It's like asking a cat to be a dog. Unless you can appreciate him as he is it's probably not gonna work. You need a scorpio influenced person...


This!

Additionally, this is a new year. It's time to do new things. 'Struggle love' is exhausting. You would have to compromise WHO you are, to meet him where he's at. But where is the reward...happiness....peace....true compatibility and growth in that FOR YOU? Sometimes we fall for people who really aren't our BEST match. Recognize it now and change course. His anxiety is not your crutch to overcome 💙
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Aqua doesn’t like to keep rehashing the same shit over and over. Tell him what’s wrong and drop it. Don’t nag...they hate that. He heard you loud and clear and he told you he’s working on it.

Aquas are sort of chameleons and will adapt to their partner. If you are being combative he’s going to shut down and be cold. If you’re warm and forgiving, he will open up and meet you half way. But he’s not going to be the knight in shining armor that fights and begs for your love. He wants you to have your own free will and make your own decisions. They are not for people who need a ton of reassurance.


This definitely sounds like him. I need reassurance for real 😂

What’s funny is I also have an air moon. But it’s also in the 12th house. His moon is in the 9th house. Idk I just really don’t understand why someone would want a relationship if they aren’t really willing to get to know the inner world of their partner. Or expose theirs. But to each their own. I find these differences fascinating.
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Hey, I’m new to this site.

My issue has been my on/off again Aquarius boyfriend. We tried to really make it work once and for all mid last year, but it seems to be falling apart again. I’m an Aries sun Gem moon. He’s an Aqua sun, Libra moon. I love him very much for being caring, kind, and our conversations are great. However, I can’t seem to get passed how cold he can be. He is also very closed off when it comes to anything I would describe as REAL stuff. Like the convos have to be light, funny etc in order to keep going. Otherwise he just shuts down. It gives me the feeling that we don’t truly know one another.

I have left before for these reasons and I even tell him why straight up. He always insists he will work on things but never actually does. He gets so upset that I don’t just accept his lame “working on it” and wants us to go back to having sex and have silly conversations like nothing is wrong. It makes me feel crazy how much I am the only one who seems to care about our issues and can’t just let them go.

He also has a female best friend who I feel crosses a line for many reasons but he just doesn’t see it.

Anyway, any insight into why an Aqua may keep someone around with no intention of working on issues. Or. If an Aqua man can ever really do that deep dive into intimacy for a woman he claims to truly love? It just seems like he doesn’t see the point in such a thing, whereas I feel that’s all that matters. The compromise just isn’t happening and yet we both can’t seem to let go.


I'm Libra moon..

I have 7 exes..

4 is strong relationship..

No one can make me change.

Except the first one.

And he never force me.

How:

I was easy to feel disguise

He never ask me to change

But I feel he doesn't like it

The struggle happened a lot

Till one day he having bad mood

And see me feel disgusting with my own shoes.. the sole is full of red soil..

Then he take off my shoes and scratch it with his own hand..

then put the shoes in again and without seeing my face, he's walk away.



After that this gemini sun Libra moon change 80%

Even I can cleaning my ex vomit

And wash my grandma ass after poop

Without feel disgusting.

But you should the moon in libra feel real love to you first ☺️

Maybe you can learn by that.

He's Pisces BTW



I know what Aries is 😂😂😂😂

They like to force😂

And gemini moon makes you care so much that's why you want him to change..

But love.. is acceptance ☺️
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Are the deep things you want to talk about actually "where are we going?" conversations? I don't consider that "deep talk" so your question might be throwing people off. "Deep" to me is discussing one's greatest fears and secrets. Deciding what you're doing is something you usually only have to do when one person is dragging their feet and doesn't actually want a relationship.

To me the fears and secrets are part of discussing where we are going. Especially now that the relationship is in question, I feel like it only makes sense to say how we truly feel, what hurts us, what would make us feel loved again, why we really love each other. Things like that. All these surface level, cordial conversations are doing nothing for me when it comes to really feeling like the relationship has a future.

As an Aquarian myself, I must say, that talking about feelings does absolutely nothing for a relationship. It doesn't change anything, zero influence, empty words, a waste of time, etc. And the reason I say so is: emotions are not solid, they come and go. Feelings are after all, a chemical reaction in the brain. And so, people who's relay on feelings and can't control their emotions, are not very trustworthy. How can we invest in another person who is not solid. More so, who turns our personality upside-down because she feels so.

Unfortunately, I have no good advice for you. Usually it helps when you start to love yourself, enjoy your life and let go everything what's not in your best interest. Time is limited.
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I definitely feel that this is his point of view as well. I can appreciate that mind set because there is truth in it. Someone who is too focused on emotions can never be stable.

However, I feel that in order to truly have a partnership you have to communicate your emotions. As unproductive as that may feel, people who never open up tend to cause problems, act out, and make their emotions everyone else’s problem. I see this in him a bit. He doesn’t want to say he’s unhappy but his actions and inability to move forward in things tells me his emotions are crippling him. He’s even admitted to being afraid of getting too close to people and he was crying as he said this. Showing me there a deep hurt and a longing to communicate. I know every person is different. But I think the middle ground is where it’s at. But right now it’s like we are in the woods and a middle ground is inconceivable.

Maybe Aries and Aqua are meant to love each other from afar. In some cases.
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Are the deep things you want to talk about actually "where are we going?" conversations? I don't consider that "deep talk" so your question might be throwing people off. "Deep" to me is discussing one's greatest fears and secrets. Deciding what you're doing is something you usually only have to do when one person is dragging their feet and doesn't actually want a relationship.

To me the fears and secrets are part of discussing where we are going. Especially now that the relationship is in question, I feel like it only makes sense to say how we truly feel, what hurts us, what would make us feel loved again, why we really love each other. Things like that. All these surface level, cordial conversations are doing nothing for me when it comes to really feeling like the relationship has a future.

As an Aquarian myself, I must say, that talking about feelings does absolutely nothing for a relationship. It doesn't change anything, zero influence, empty words, a waste of time, etc. And the reason I say so is: emotions are not solid, they come and go. Feelings are after all, a chemical reaction in the brain. And so, people who's relay on feelings and can't control their emotions, are not very trustworthy. How can we invest in another person who is not solid. More so, who turns our personality upside-down because she feels so.

Unfortunately, I have no good advice for you. Usually it helps when you start to love yourself, enjoy your life and let go everything what's not in your best interest. Time is limited.

I definitely feel that this is his point of view as well. I can appreciate that mind set because there is truth in it. Someone who is too focused on emotions can never be stable.

However, I feel that in order to truly have a partnership you have to communicate your emotions. As unproductive as that may feel, people who never open up tend to cause problems, act out, and make their emotions everyone else’s problem. I see this in him a bit. He doesn’t want to say he’s unhappy but his actions and inability to move forward in things tells me his emotions are crippling him. He’s even admitted to being afraid of getting too close to people and he was crying as he said this. Showing me there a deep hurt and a longing to communicate. I know every person is different. But I think the middle ground is where it’s at. But right now it’s like we are in the woods and a middle ground is inconceivable.

Maybe Aries and Aqua are meant to love each other from afar. In some cases.

Does he take care of you? Respect you? Has he ever cheated on you? Has he done little things that made you feel like he actually care?

Sometimes, people can get blindsided by what's not happening vs what is actually happening. I read something about 80/20 in a relationship. Someone gives you 80% of what you need. Love, care, stability etc. But misses out on the 20% which can be being outgoing, being communicative, etc. Sometimes people leave the one with 80% because they think the 20% will make them happier only to realise that it is only 20% of what they actually need.

So this is entirely up to you. Is he your 80 or your 20?
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I think this is spot on the issue. Like 80% is great and he does a lot of things right and I love him for that. But there’s that 20% that I feel uneasy about and it sours the relationship. But isn’t just accepting that it’ll never change basically just settling? Like how much of finding the right partner is basically settling? I’m at a time in my life where I want to get serious with someone finally and these questions are like, keeping me up at night.
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Did you actually explain to him, explicitly, everything you want and need from him.

Specifically.

In detail.

Cause ime libra moons are happy to accommodate you once they know wtf you need from them. His version of ‘deep conversations’ is obviously different from yours.

Personally I don’t get the obsession with talking about ish. Where is the do? We’ve been talking about buying together but I didn’t take him seriously until he started sending me Zillow listings, showed me the money he’s saved for his down payment, and started talking time line. Up until then it was just a fun fantasy we chatted about.

I get the feeling your dude needs some stability after you broke up with him and moved out of his place. Stability to him is fun chats, jokes, and sex. You demanding him to dig deep and wax on about his feelings for you... after you (literally and figuratively) left him is a hard ask. Seems pretty selfish of you from where I sit.

Either go with the flow and meet him halfway (change doesn’t happen over night). Or cut the cord for real now. No backsies.

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I’m kinda pissed off with Aqua at the moment, so apologies straight up. Aqua seem like the most unaffectionate star sign out there, they might have emotion but apparently cos they are so weird they are scared of their own emotions. They are like aliens or something, those Star Trek ones that pretend they don’t understand questions like “how do you feel?” and say things like “you are illogical”. They avoid emotion conversations by either saying nothing or things like “whatever you want”..

As an Aries, I love emotion, that’s what’s real to me. That’s who the real person is. I can sit through several boring meeting at work and I don’t want to come home to the same crap.. and why do Aquas think it’s not normal to talk to your partner about emotions. No wonder most of the Aquas I know are divorced; and maybe that’s it, people wait around for them to show emotion but it never happens, and even when married you are still “just friends” and aren’t allowed to talk about anything bothering you. And if you haven’t got communication in a relationship, are you meant to mind read?? What if something is bothering him. If he can’t express his emotion. This is more damaging than someone insulting you and telling you to go away.. but it wastes more time and it’s more fake.

He is being mean to you.. straight up.. let’s be real. You can think about it in different ways, but if I am there for my partner and they are not there for me when I need.. then that is unfair and unsupportive, and selfish. And it isn’t so much that Aries want to talk, it’s more like we want to ask why are Aquas are so cold and why do they want to waste time.

It’s like going on a date, first few dates, maybe the person doesn’t open up, but when it’s been six months.. why can’t we ask why.. we need to know why they are being fake.. they gonna turn around in two years having thought about it that long and tell us their decision?

Forget the stupid 20% 80% argument. Once again a stupid Aqua logic argument without taking into account any feelings. If you have a gut instinct and it’s keeping you up at night, then listen to your feelings. People shouldn’t dismiss feelings and who someone really is, by not talking. Your partner should be there to strengthen you, not make you think your feelings aren’t valid.

And even if you want to use the 20% 80% argument, feelings are only 20% of the relationship to an Aqua, but they are 80% to an Aries.

Aquas are willing to listen to emotions from people they care about, and I think this says it all... he doesn’t care about you, sorry but it needs to be said. Think about it, is he there for other people when they want to talk? Is it just you? Does he talk about the other women friend, or does he bypass it because he can’t risk having an emotional conversation... how annoying.

And I know what you’re thinking.. maybe he will some day. Apparently you’re meant to be friends with Aqua first.. like forever, who knows.. then one day they decide to make the transition from friends to something else. Maybe you are meant to write them a business case or something, with a list of the 20% 80% split.. god knows.. they don’t do things because of love or passion for life? Logic please!

You’ve wasted enough time, tell him to go use his copy cat language on himself in the mirror, or maybe tell him to adopt a parrot. Whatever you do, don’t let him make you think your emotions are wrong, he’s the alien, not you. It’s not wrong to expect support from your partner. And don’t try to win his approval, you’ll never win approval from someone who isn’t right for you, just walk away, he will never fight for you and as an Aries this is what we need.

Robot star sighs should stick to dating other robots, let the emotionally unstable star signs like Aries stick to other emotionally unstable signs.. we all know that makes sense.

And I know what you mean, there are things which are not said with words in a relationship, most of the time it’s body language and actions.. you heart picks up on it and you have feelings and instincts. I’m here to tell you as one Aries to another, listen to your heart, don’t analyse things after and forget the true picture just because other Aquas tell you to be logical.
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Yeah exactly.. you think Aquarius show emotions in other ways? ... interesting, not saying your wrong, but I thought the need to talk came from the fact they don’t show emotion. I’m not even for talking about it, I think it’s best to move on. You shouldn’t have to ask someone to show emotion. In the same way he shouldn’t ask people to put up with his lack of emotion. Nobody should put up with anything, they should go find people they can be themselves with. And I’m just stressing the point, Aries need for showing emotion is quite high, Aquarius need for hiding emotion is quite high.. regardless of how it happens, talking or showing in other ways. Does this guy show emotion?
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Yeah exactly.. you think Aquarius show emotions in other ways? ... interesting, not saying your wrong, but I thought the need to talk came from the fact they don’t show emotion. I’m not even for talking about it, I think it’s best to move on. You shouldn’t have to ask someone to show emotion. In the same way he shouldn’t ask people to put up with his lack of emotion. Nobody should put up with anything, they should go find people they can be themselves with. And I’m just stressing the point, Aries need for showing emotion is quite high, Aquarius need for hiding emotion is quite high.. regardless of how it happens, talking or showing in other ways. Does this guy show emotion?

I personally don't say i love you without meaning it. And I don't tell my friends or parents that I care. But I am always there for them in a different way. I don't even buy birthday cards for anyone. For some, I do understand how that can be identified as lacking emotions or not being expressive enough. But, when it comes down to tough times, I am willing to help. When my sister gave birth, I paid for half of her expenses and I never asked for a payment back. I love her. I can provide if she needs me to just to help her. She's a single mom. When my brother needed support in school due to some issues with classmates that he didn't wanna tell my mom, I was there. But I never tell him I love him. Instead, he just knows I'm gonna be supportive of him no matter what.

And yes, people should find someone who understands them. Maybe this aqua isn't for her. I ended up with another air dom. It was easier. I don't think aquarius hides emotions. It's a misconception of the sign. We just don't always talk about it. We feel too. We just don't dwell on it.
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This super comes down to love language. You like to show people- acts of service. That is how my aqua is as well. I’m more of physical touch and quality time. It’s so hard because I can totally see both sides. On one hand, I understand not wanting to dwell on things or overly validate. But in the other hand, I do appreciate when people are consistently expressive and in the moment.

He does listen to me, but he tends to walk off or change the subject. Not in a mean way, but in a way that implies doesn’t even SEE AT ALL how it hurts me. I have to tell myself, a lot, “he just doesn’t find this important whereas I do.” And basically talk myself down from getting upset.

I hate this situation. Because I truly love him so much for who he is and what he does show me. The “logical” side of me sees it and understands. But the “emotional” side of me feels neglected and wondering if that feeling will ever go away.

I’m also seeing a therapist as well, been seeing one for a year or so. after being with a guy who was physically abusive I was kind of afraid to date again. So I sought out therapy to try to work through that and it definitely is helpful.
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I'm quite curious to know what you guys think about how would these two placements work together ... with an Aries sun and Aqua moon ?


My ex is an Aries sun Aqua moon 😂 (I definitely attract Aries and Aqua energy).

I was with him for 5 years. He was very fun, kind, loving. But actually I ran into similar issues where he didn’t like to talk about things that were bothering him. When something upset him, he would go completely silent and refuse to talk to anyone. This would go on for at least an hour or so before he would go back to normal as if that didn’t just happen. He even did this to his family. We were 18-23 when we were together so maybe he’s grown out of that. Who knows.
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Good point. Maybe aries should date its kind? The need for validation is actually unreal. Not everyone is comfortable having too much discussion about emotions. Some prefer to show how they feel. Not talk about them. There are also very different love languages per person. Which I am not sure if she has taken into account yet.

https://www.5lovelanguages.com/

No one can possibly manipulate or coerce someone to do their bidding just because they want to. That's for mentally weak people. As well, how many times does one need to entertain discussions about emotions? Talk about it once, that's fine. But wanting to talk too much about it is torture. Breaking up over it, is over the top. If someone wants to talk about their emotions day and night, that's draining. Maybe they should talk to a therapist no? I don't find my kind emotionally incapable. And it takes two to get divorced as well. So on the contrary, aquas aren't as bad as you make it out to be. People just have way too much emotional baggage to fit in this life. And talking about it doesn't solve any issues. It never does.

People talk about loving themselves. But without actually doing it, it leads nowhere. So tell me, how important is it really, to talk about emotions vs actually acting on it?

You are correct though. Aquas listen to the ones they care about. Maybe, the aqua is fed up with it as well. I know I would be. This situation will make me feel like what I'm doing isn't enough. Why would I even bother when I have other more important things to do than analyse my emotions then talk about it? I'd rather be with someone who gets it. A person can only take too much.


I take issue with this. In a perfect utopia where people don’t have emotions, insecurities, baggage, different personalities and different wants/needs, different struggles.. then yes, talking about emotions would be unnecessary and people would just do and feel the right things every day automatically. But that is not the world we live in. I can’t claim to know what another is thinking and feeling unless they on some level are able to communicate it with me. Why? Because I’m not them and they could feel a totally different way than I. To assume “oh I’m fine so everyone else is too” or “I don’t like this conversation so that means it’s stupid” seems self centered. I’m not asking for someone to bend over backward, just tell me how they are and what’s going on. If problems are stretched out too long then resentment builds. And it becomes a whole other animal. Rather than just being in the moment and saying “hey I’m frustrated/sad etc when....”

It’s so funny how different air signs can be than fire. And yet we are expected to be super compatible. I don’t like the idea that like should only be with like. I think there’s a lot of learning and growing that can happen when you are with someone different than you.
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I'm quite curious to know what you guys think about how would these two placements work together ... with an Aries sun and Aqua moon ?

My ex is an Aries sun Aqua moon 😂 (I definitely attract Aries and Aqua energy).

I was with him for 5 years. He was very fun, kind, loving. But actually I ran into similar issues where he didn’t like to talk about things that were bothering him. When something upset him, he would go completely silent and refuse to talk to anyone. This would go on for at least an hour or so before he would go back to normal as if that didn’t just happen. He even did this to his family. We were 18-23 when we were together so maybe he’s grown out of that. Who knows.

Ohh can I ask why it ended if you don't mind me asking?! ..

Thanks for the input. It's nice to hear other people's experiences!! ☺️
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Honestly that was most of it. His silent treatment moods anytime he was offended by someone or something. I tried to tell him that I didn’t like being treated that way when something was wrong, I would rather him just be straight up. But he was very stubborn and when he was in one of those moods he wouldn’t even look in my direction. So I gave up. He was very upset when we broke up and said he wanted us to get married someday. But interesting enough didn’t want to work on things. Very similar to my current situation with the Aqua.
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The (1) Aqua friend I had ended up being too much damn work! Exhausting. He was the epitome of exhaustion. The second time when I walked away, it was FOR GOOD. Saw him recently, and he said "So...you blocked me? You should know me by now." That's the problem: I know him, but I dislike WHO he is.

Don't attempt to change him OP. Accept him for who he is, make peace w it and QUICKLY walk away, NEVER looking back. Struggle love is corny on every level.
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Are the deep things you want to talk about actually "where are we going?" conversations? I don't consider that "deep talk" so your question might be throwing people off. "Deep" to me is discussing one's greatest fears and secrets. Deciding what you're doing is something you usually only have to do when one person is dragging their feet and doesn't actually want a relationship.

To me the fears and secrets are part of discussing where we are going. Especially now that the relationship is in question, I feel like it only makes sense to say how we truly feel, what hurts us, what would make us feel loved again, why we really love each other. Things like that. All these surface level, cordial conversations are doing nothing for me when it comes to really feeling like the relationship has a future.

As an Aquarian myself, I must say, that talking about feelings does absolutely nothing for a relationship. It doesn't change anything, zero influence, empty words, a waste of time, etc. And the reason I say so is: emotions are not solid, they come and go. Feelings are after all, a chemical reaction in the brain. And so, people who's relay on feelings and can't control their emotions, are not very trustworthy. How can we invest in another person who is not solid. More so, who turns our personality upside-down because she feels so.

Unfortunately, I have no good advice for you. Usually it helps when you start to love yourself, enjoy your life and let go everything what's not in your best interest. Time is limited.

I definitely feel that this is his point of view as well. I can appreciate that mind set because there is truth in it. Someone who is too focused on emotions can never be stable.

However, I feel that in order to truly have a partnership you have to communicate your emotions. As unproductive as that may feel, people who never open up tend to cause problems, act out, and make their emotions everyone else’s problem. I see this in him a bit. He doesn’t want to say he’s unhappy but his actions and inability to move forward in things tells me his emotions are crippling him. He’s even admitted to being afraid of getting too close to people and he was crying as he said this. Showing me there a deep hurt and a longing to communicate. I know every person is different. But I think the middle ground is where it’s at. But right now it’s like we are in the woods and a middle ground is inconceivable.

Maybe Aries and Aqua are meant to love each other from afar. In some cases.
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Us aquarians are bit weird when it comes to show feelings, we dont know how to show it properly so read between lines for example if hes still attached to you it means you are the one. We think few years ahead to future so he does but at same time we kinda need some freedom, its weird but i personally think that too much talk about where we are rn and about the feeling would be equivalent as if i was a bird and you clipped my wings. Hes into you trust me, 12 months is alot but you need to take it slover, not overanalyze it so much, his aloofnes is not what it seems. By pushing him to talk too much about the feeling you kinda make him feel vulnerable and insecure which we can compare to the bird with clipped wings. Relax, no need to feel insecure, hes into you trust me, hes gonna open up once sbout you two and take you off your feet than hes gonna go aloof for some time again, its just the way we are, think of us as a mix of intp/infp from outside but inside we are quite emphats. Facts that he was against children and marriage and now hes kinda into it means he means business with you but as someone already said if you push too hard hes gonna go more cold, its our natural response bcs we think way ahead so if you push strong today towards the situation we see it happening 1 year in the future we go defensive bcs we feel as if our wings are being clipped. We are fixed sign, it takes more time for us to make a change...

Anyway i dont think you need to worry that much, brgds, Aqua guy 🙂
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The (1) Aqua friend I had ended up being too much damn work! Exhausting. He was the epitome of exhaustion. The second time when I walked away, it was FOR GOOD. Saw him recently, and he said "So...you blocked me? You should know me by now." That's the problem: I know him, but I dislike WHO he is.

No, you think that you know him but in reality you figure him out like 20% , brgds

Don't attempt to change him OP. Accept him for who he is, make peace w it and QUICKLY walk away, NEVER looking back. Struggle love is corny on every level.

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Are the deep things you want to talk about actually "where are we going?" conversations? I don't consider that "deep talk" so your question might be throwing people off. "Deep" to me is discussing one's greatest fears and secrets. Deciding what you're doing is something you usually only have to do when one person is dragging their feet and doesn't actually want a relationship.

To me the fears and secrets are part of discussing where we are going. Especially now that the relationship is in question, I feel like it only makes sense to say how we truly feel, what hurts us, what would make us feel loved again, why we really love each other. Things like that. All these surface level, cordial conversations are doing nothing for me when it comes to really feeling like the relationship has a future.

As an Aquarian myself, I must say, that talking about feelings does absolutely nothing for a relationship. It doesn't change anything, zero influence, empty words, a waste of time, etc. And the reason I say so is: emotions are not solid, they come and go. Feelings are after all, a chemical reaction in the brain. And so, people who's relay on feelings and can't control their emotions, are not very trustworthy. How can we invest in another person who is not solid. More so, who turns our personality upside-down because she feels so.

Unfortunately, I have no good advice for you. Usually it helps when you start to love yourself, enjoy your life and let go everything what's not in your best interest. Time is limited.

I definitely feel that this is his point of view as well. I can appreciate that mind set because there is truth in it. Someone who is too focused on emotions can never be stable.

However, I feel that in order to truly have a partnership you have to communicate your emotions. As unproductive as that may feel, people who never open up tend to cause problems, act out, and make their emotions everyone else’s problem. I see this in him a bit. He doesn’t want to say he’s unhappy but his actions and inability to move forward in things tells me his emotions are crippling him. He’s even admitted to being afraid of getting too close to people and he was crying as he said this. Showing me there a deep hurt and a longing to communicate. I know every person is different. But I think the middle ground is where it’s at. But right now it’s like we are in the woods and a middle ground is inconceivable.

Maybe Aries and Aqua are meant to love each other from afar. In some cases.
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If im deep into you ill discuus deepestband darkest things about me that happened in my life. But often discussions about our relationship and feelings towards each other is huge noo. It would make me feel uncomfortable and kinda tied up which is big no. Just relax, keep it 80% friendly and light hearted, dont worry and analize so much and you 2 ll be fine, things are more bright than you actually think they are
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The (1) Aqua friend I had ended up being too much damn work! Exhausting. He was the epitome of exhaustion. The second time when I walked away, it was FOR GOOD. Saw him recently, and he said "So...you blocked me? You should know me by now." That's the problem: I know him,

Don't attempt to change him OP. Accept him for who he is, make peace w it and QUICKLY walk away, NEVER looking back. Struggle love is corny on every level.

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No, you just think you know him but in reality you had him figured out like 30% . And you lost one of the best friends you could have had, congrats...
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I’m kinda pissed off with Aqua at the moment, so apologies straight up. Aqua seem like the most unaffectionate star sign out there, they might have emotion but apparently cos they are so weird they are scared of their own emotions. They are like aliens or something, those Star Trek ones that pretend they don’t understand questions like “how do you feel?” and say things like “you are illogical”. They avoid emotion conversations by either saying nothing or things like “whatever you want”..

As an Aries, I love emotion, that’s what’s real to me. That’s who the real person is. I can sit through several boring meeting at work and I don’t want to come home to the same crap.. and why do Aquas think it’s not normal to talk to your partner about emotions. No wonder most of the Aquas I know are divorced; and maybe that’s it, people wait around for them to show emotion but it never happens, and even when married you are still “just friends” and aren’t allowed to talk about anything bothering you. And if you haven’t got communication in a relationship, are you meant to mind read?? What if something is bothering him. If he can’t express his emotion. This is more damaging than someone insulting you and telling you to go away.. but it wastes more time and it’s more fake.

He is being mean to you.. straight up.. let’s be real. You can think about it in different ways, but if I am there for my partner and they are not there for me when I need.. then that is unfair and unsupportive, and selfish. And it isn’t so much that Aries want to talk, it’s more like we want to ask why are Aquas are so cold and why do they want to waste time.

It’s like going on a date, first few dates, maybe the person doesn’t open up, but when it’s been six months.. why can’t we ask why.. we need to know why they are being fake.. they gonna turn around in two years having thought about it that long and tell us their decision?

Forget the stupid 20% 80% argument. Once again a stupid Aqua logic argument without taking into account any feelings. If you have a gut instinct and it’s keeping you up at night, then listen to your feelings. People shouldn’t dismiss feelings and who someone really is, by not talking. Your partner should be there to strengthen you, not make you think your feelings aren’t valid.

And even if you want to use the 20% 80% argument, feelings are only 20% of the relationship to an Aqua, but they are 80% to an Aries.

Aquas are willing to listen to emotions from people they care about, and I think this says it all... he doesn’t care about you, sorry but it needs to be said. Think about it, is he there for other people when they want to talk? Is it just you? Does he talk about the other women friend, or does he bypass it because he can’t risk having an emotional conversation... how annoying.

And I know what you’re thinking.. maybe he will some day. Apparently you’re meant to be friends with Aqua first.. like forever, who knows.. then one day they decide to make the transition from friends to something else. Maybe you are meant to write them a business case or something, with a list of the 20% 80% split.. god knows.. they don’t do things because of love or passion for life? Logic please!

You’ve wasted enough time, tell him to go use his copy cat language on himself in the mirror, or maybe tell him to adopt a parrot. Whatever you do, don’t let him make you think your emotions are wrong, he’s the alien, not you. It’s not wrong to expect support from your partner. And don’t try to win his approval, you’ll never win approval from someone who isn’t right for you, just walk away, he will never fight for you and as an Aries this is what we need.

Robot star sighs should stick to dating other robots, let the emotionally unstable star signs like Aries stick to other emotionally unstable signs.. we all know that makes sense.

And I know what you mean, there are things which are not said with words in a relationship, most of the time it’s body language and actions.. you heart picks up on it and you have feelings and instincts. I’m here to tell you as one Aries to another, listen to your heart, don’t analyse things after and forget the true picture just because other Aquas tell you to be logical.

I don’t know why you even think about Aquas. There is nothing more different, than Aries and Aqua. Aries approaching everything from the personal level, like: “me and my feelings”. Aquas solving global issues. There are several different dimensions between us.
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This kinda opens up a whole new discussion. I feel like aquas are more globally focused, however in my experience there’s no action to actually do much. It’s almost like they need that Aries courage to actually start. At least that’s how my relationships and friendships with aquas have been. They have the mindset but they just wanna sit around. Aries definitely are emotionally driven, however the greater good can and does definitely drive us. We want to be the savior. Aquas are kinda like “well that’s not logical to me so why should I care”. Again this is just my experience. I dont prefer one over the other. But they are very different.
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The (1) Aqua friend I had ended up being too much damn work! Exhausting. He was the epitome of exhaustion. The second time when I walked away, it was FOR GOOD. Saw him recently, and he said "So...you blocked me? You should know me by now." That's the problem: I know him, but I dislike WHO he is.

No, you think that you know him but in reality you figure him out like 20% , brgds

Don't attempt to change him OP. Accept him for who he is, make peace w it and QUICKLY walk away, NEVER looking back. Struggle love is corny on every level.

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That may be true. However small the percentage was, it was more than enough lol I was NOT going to allow that dude to make a fool out of me 🤷
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Are the deep things you want to talk about actually "where are we going?" conversations? I don't consider that "deep talk" so your question might be throwing people off. "Deep" to me is discussing one's greatest fears and secrets. Deciding what you're doing is something you usually only have to do when one person is dragging their feet and doesn't actually want a relationship.

To me the fears and secrets are part of discussing where we are going. Especially now that the relationship is in question, I feel like it only makes sense to say how we truly feel, what hurts us, what would make us feel loved again, why we really love each other. Things like that. All these surface level, cordial conversations are doing nothing for me when it comes to really feeling like the relationship has a future.

As an Aquarian myself, I must say, that talking about feelings does absolutely nothing for a relationship. It doesn't change anything, zero influence, empty words, a waste of time, etc. And the reason I say so is: emotions are not solid, they come and go. Feelings are after all, a chemical reaction in the brain. And so, people who's relay on feelings and can't control their emotions, are not very trustworthy. How can we invest in another person who is not solid. More so, who turns our personality upside-down because she feels so.

Unfortunately, I have no good advice for you. Usually it helps when you start to love yourself, enjoy your life and let go everything what's not in your best interest. Time is limited.

I definitely feel that this is his point of view as well. I can appreciate that mind set because there is truth in it. Someone who is too focused on emotions can never be stable.

However, I feel that in order to truly have a partnership you have to communicate your emotions. As unproductive as that may feel, people who never open up tend to cause problems, act out, and make their emotions everyone else’s problem. I see this in him a bit. He doesn’t want to say he’s unhappy but his actions and inability to move forward in things tells me his emotions are crippling him. He’s even admitted to being afraid of getting too close to people and he was crying as he said this. Showing me there a deep hurt and a longing to communicate. I know every person is different. But I think the middle ground is where it’s at. But right now it’s like we are in the woods and a middle ground is inconceivable.

Maybe Aries and Aqua are meant to love each other from afar. In some cases.

Us aquarians are bit weird when it comes to show feelings, we dont know how to show it properly so read between lines for example if hes still attached to you it means you are the one. We think few years ahead to future so he does but at same time we kinda need some freedom, its weird but i personally think that too much talk about where we are rn and about the feeling would be equivalent as if i was a bird and you clipped my wings. Hes into you trust me, 12 months is alot but you need to take it slover, not overanalyze it so much, his aloofnes is not what it seems. By pushing him to talk too much about the feeling you kinda make him feel vulnerable and insecure which we can compare to the bird with clipped wings. Relax, no need to feel insecure, hes into you trust me, hes gonna open up once sbout you two and take you off your feet than hes gonna go aloof for some time again, its just the way we are, think of us as a mix of intp/infp from outside but inside we are quite emphats. Facts that he was against children and marriage and now hes kinda into it means he means business with you but as someone already said if you push too hard hes gonna go more cold, its our natural response bcs we think way ahead so if you push strong today towards the situation we see it happening 1 year in the future we go defensive bcs we feel as if our wings are being clipped. We are fixed sign, it takes more time for us to make a change...

Anyway i dont think you need to worry that much, brgds, Aqua guy 🙂

I resonate with this so much. While he's an aries aqua moon. We are def in aqua territory when we are alone. He alludes to things like " this is going to happen a million times when we fight and separate" but doesn't let me get to far. When we are at events together he will stare at me the whole time. He will pull me away when I talk to other ppl. He straight up said I'll never be emotional or affectionate like you and I feel sorry for you. You deserve that. But I just shrug it off. I learned to be confident in my love and the way I express it without expecting anything from him. It's pretty freeing honestly. Oh and he runs a lot. Like 25 miles. It's like he's running from his emotions. He's proud that he has no feelings. I'm so emotional so I admire this about him. It makes me want to love him more !! Idk if this helps but yea.
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Well im dealing with one young lady and things were good than bad and now were good again. Regards the emotional stuff i can agree with you, i show my emotions very rarely but with pulling away from ppl a big no. Shes libra so you can imagine how easy she can start talking with others at a party and im all good with that, told her rhats her virtue not a flaw. Well bad side of that might be that shes gonna start conversation with idiot people and she does sometimes and while she figures it out that people start talking to me too so i get little bit mad at her but no big deal. Jelaousy is a big no from me, i find it my weakness so ih hardly show it. Shes jealous when i talk to other girls and i like when she is hahaha
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Are the deep things you want to talk about actually "where are we going?" conversations? I don't consider that "deep talk" so your question might be throwing people off. "Deep" to me is discussing one's greatest fears and secrets. Deciding what you're doing is something you usually only have to do when one person is dragging their feet and doesn't actually want a relationship.

To me the fears and secrets are part of discussing where we are going. Especially now that the relationship is in question, I feel like it only makes sense to say how we truly feel, what hurts us, what would make us feel loved again, why we really love each other. Things like that. All these surface level, cordial conversations are doing nothing for me when it comes to really feeling like the relationship has a future.

As an Aquarian myself, I must say, that talking about feelings does absolutely nothing for a relationship. It doesn't change anything, zero influence, empty words, a waste of time, etc. And the reason I say so is: emotions are not solid, they come and go. Feelings are after all, a chemical reaction in the brain. And so, people who's relay on feelings and can't control their emotions, are not very trustworthy. How can we invest in another person who is not solid. More so, who turns our personality upside-down because she feels so.

Unfortunately, I have no good advice for you. Usually it helps when you start to love yourself, enjoy your life and let go everything what's not in your best interest. Time is limited.

I definitely feel that this is his point of view as well. I can appreciate that mind set because there is truth in it. Someone who is too focused on emotions can never be stable.

However, I feel that in order to truly have a partnership you have to communicate your emotions. As unproductive as that may feel, people who never open up tend to cause problems, act out, and make their emotions everyone else’s problem. I see this in him a bit. He doesn’t want to say he’s unhappy but his actions and inability to move forward in things tells me his emotions are crippling him. He’s even admitted to being afraid of getting too close to people and he was crying as he said this. Showing me there a deep hurt and a longing to communicate. I know every person is different. But I think the middle ground is where it’s at. But right now it’s like we are in the woods and a middle ground is inconceivable.

Maybe Aries and Aqua are meant to love each other from afar. In some cases.

Us aquarians are bit weird when it comes to show feelings, we dont know how to show it properly so read between lines for example if hes still attached to you it means you are the one. We think few years ahead to future so he does but at same time we kinda need some freedom, its weird but i personally think that too much talk about where we are rn and about the feeling would be equivalent as if i was a bird and you clipped my wings. Hes into you trust me, 12 months is alot but you need to take it slover, not overanalyze it so much, his aloofnes is not what it seems. By pushing him to talk too much about the feeling you kinda make him feel vulnerable and insecure which we can compare to the bird with clipped wings. Relax, no need to feel insecure, hes into you trust me, hes gonna open up once sbout you two and take you off your feet than hes gonna go aloof for some time again, its just the way we are, think of us as a mix of intp/infp from outside but inside we are quite emphats. Facts that he was against children and marriage and now hes kinda into it means he means business with you but as someone already said if you push too hard hes gonna go more cold, its our natural response bcs we think way ahead so if you push strong today towards the situation we see it happening 1 year in the future we go defensive bcs we feel as if our wings are being clipped. We are fixed sign, it takes more time for us to make a change...

Anyway i dont think you need to worry that much, brgds, Aqua guy 🙂

I resonate with this so much. While he's an aries aqua moon. We are def in aqua territory when we are alone. He alludes to things like " this is going to happen a million times when we fight and separate" but doesn't let me get to far. When we are at events together he will stare at me the whole time. He will pull me away when I talk to other ppl. He straight up said I'll never be emotional or affectionate like you and I feel sorry for you. You deserve that. But I just shrug it off. I learned to be confident in my love and the way I express it without expecting anything from him. It's pretty freeing honestly. Oh and he runs a lot. Like 25 miles. It's like he's running from his emotions. He's proud that he has no feelings. I'm so emotional so I admire this about him. It makes me want to love him more !! Idk if this helps but yea.

Well im dealing with one young lady and things were good than bad and now were good again. Regards the emotional stuff i can agree with you, i show my emotions very rarely but with pulling away from ppl a big no. Shes libra so you can imagine how easy she can start talking with others at a party and im all good with that, told her rhats her virtue not a flaw. Well bad side of that might be that shes gonna start conversation with idiot people and she does sometimes and while she figures it out that people start talking to me too so i get little bit mad at her but no big deal. Jelaousy is a big no from me, i find it my weakness so ih hardly show it. Shes jealous when i talk to other girls and i like when she is hahaha

Do you like her ??
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