eliza0012
@eliza0012
20 Years5,000+ PostsAquarius
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guess i'll be getting married soon..... (Page 2)
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"i know it all...."
In 2 weeks?
In 2 weeks?
In 2 weeks?
ya...
" In 2 weeks?
ya..."
You are a stupid person.
ya..."
You are a stupid person.
and ur a pest....
spare me ur loser lectures haffo, u can be such a pain....
making her feel like shit
no one can make me feel like shit...
and hey haffo, its easy to call u names too but me aint faling to ur level.... ur such a pathetic man....
falling*
"what good does it do to call her a stupid person?"
Perfectionism.
"making her feel like shit isn't going to help."
Then what does?
Perfectionism.
"making her feel like shit isn't going to help."
Then what does?
"spare me ur loser lectures haffo, u can be such a pain...."
We obviously see who loser here is. Taking uncalculated risks is exactly what losers do.
We obviously see who loser here is. Taking uncalculated risks is exactly what losers do.
First,
"nd hey haffo, its easy to call u names too but me aint faling to ur level"
Then,
"ur such a pathetic man...."
LOL!
"nd hey haffo, its easy to call u names too but me aint faling to ur level"
Then,
"ur such a pathetic man...."
LOL!
"what good does it do to call her a stupid person?"
Perfectionism.
which u'll never attain... and im positive my life will be much happier and fulfilled then urs after dating ur gal for ages...😛
"which u'll never attain... "
Well at least I try. I don't take uncalculated risks, as you try to do, and try to do whatever it takes, in reasonable time, to get closer to that level and reduce my chances of going down.
But you...you are very far from this. That's you who never will attain it. And that brings many problems too. But a person who does not see the fact that noone can know another person in 2 weeks, will never see that part too.
Well at least I try. I don't take uncalculated risks, as you try to do, and try to do whatever it takes, in reasonable time, to get closer to that level and reduce my chances of going down.
But you...you are very far from this. That's you who never will attain it. And that brings many problems too. But a person who does not see the fact that noone can know another person in 2 weeks, will never see that part too.
" do you think that sways her to your point of view? is it working?"
In a long run, yes.
In a long run, yes.
Okie Dokie.. i gotta cool down...
hey haffo,
no hard feelings... ur opinion aint changing anything...thanx for ur advice though but i can make a decison for myself... neva have i ever made a rash decision in my life....i'll do whats right for me coz im a sensible person...
"we usually use on others what works on us...elisa doesn't use insults to get her get her point across, so why would she listen to someone who is insulting her?"
Well humiliation is very strong tool. Both offencive and defencive. If you can tolerate humiliation (on which Pisces thrive), you can pass this attack. Very few people can do this, because it's against human nature and it never 100% tolerated. Usually it makes people to find the truth. Which means, altough people apparently see to tolerate it, they "disharge" themselves in other ways.
Well humiliation is very strong tool. Both offencive and defencive. If you can tolerate humiliation (on which Pisces thrive), you can pass this attack. Very few people can do this, because it's against human nature and it never 100% tolerated. Usually it makes people to find the truth. Which means, altough people apparently see to tolerate it, they "disharge" themselves in other ways.
".thanx for ur advice though but i can make a decison for myself..."
If you can fukking make your own decitions, then why did you fukking wasted my time? You ask for advise, as if there is an apparent problem for you here, then fukking say me "I can handle myself" then why the fuck you tell that to us anyway?
You think we are your friends? What makes us as your "friends" anyhow worthy to listen that what you yourself actually can solve without us problem?
If you can fukking make your own decitions, then why did you fukking wasted my time? You ask for advise, as if there is an apparent problem for you here, then fukking say me "I can handle myself" then why the fuck you tell that to us anyway?
You think we are your friends? What makes us as your "friends" anyhow worthy to listen that what you yourself actually can solve without us problem?
"she won't take you seriously.
Use logic and persistance with an aqua, bullying doesn't work on us. It makes us rebellious"
100% tolerance is possible only with total understanding. I don't think she % 100 understands the situation she is in, which makes her partially (maybe even more than partially) indecisive and that will make her vulnerable to this. She will ignore me behaviourally, but subconsciously...no.
Use logic and persistance with an aqua, bullying doesn't work on us. It makes us rebellious"
100% tolerance is possible only with total understanding. I don't think she % 100 understands the situation she is in, which makes her partially (maybe even more than partially) indecisive and that will make her vulnerable to this. She will ignore me behaviourally, but subconsciously...no.
"It makes us rebellious"
Rebellious? Maybe that is EXACTLY a sign that it does WORK?
Rebellious? Maybe that is EXACTLY a sign that it does WORK?
"So humiliation works on you? Is that why you use it?"
Yes it does great time. Especially through message boards like this where authentity of information cannot be 100% investigated.
In real life, probably no. In real life things are different. Altough we deal with situations in the same way as we describe here, our understanding of situations could be complete. In this case humiliation wont work.
But here on the boards, it's different. Perhaps even better..
Yes it does great time. Especially through message boards like this where authentity of information cannot be 100% investigated.
In real life, probably no. In real life things are different. Altough we deal with situations in the same way as we describe here, our understanding of situations could be complete. In this case humiliation wont work.
But here on the boards, it's different. Perhaps even better..
"for some it does, and for others it doesn't."
" It doesn't work on me."
What makes you think it doesn't work on you?
"People who really know themselves well and accept themselves can't be humiliated into following someone else's point of view."
100% agreed.
" They will only follow a real leader."
Following a leader is a sign of incompetence. And it makes people open for humiliation attacks. People who sure about themeleves follow their own guts, not others.
" It doesn't work on me."
What makes you think it doesn't work on you?
"People who really know themselves well and accept themselves can't be humiliated into following someone else's point of view."
100% agreed.
" They will only follow a real leader."
Following a leader is a sign of incompetence. And it makes people open for humiliation attacks. People who sure about themeleves follow their own guts, not others.
"why do you think that?"
Because this message board is just text based. It's only one way of communicaiton.
When dealing with people, their body language gives you more informaiton. Also you can easily ask any question you did not understand. Here in the board it's rather very difficult to communicate at that level. Most of the time, text based message boards require alot of pre learned experiences to be able to discuss anything at 100% . Shortly, we are limited in communcation here which causes us to undestand less each other which brings lack of understanding therefore a weak spot which open for humiliation attacks.
Because this message board is just text based. It's only one way of communicaiton.
When dealing with people, their body language gives you more informaiton. Also you can easily ask any question you did not understand. Here in the board it's rather very difficult to communicate at that level. Most of the time, text based message boards require alot of pre learned experiences to be able to discuss anything at 100% . Shortly, we are limited in communcation here which causes us to undestand less each other which brings lack of understanding therefore a weak spot which open for humiliation attacks.
"NO. rebelling against what you're trying to acheive shows that it does not work."
WRONG! Rebellion is a reponse. Discarding the idea is not.
WRONG! Rebellion is a reponse. Discarding the idea is not.
"i disagree
she has to deal with it in real life, not here, so it won't be any different. if it were a game or just having fun or a verbal joust or picking on someone in play, maybe. but this is a real issue, so she will respond to it the same as in real life. she will process it the same as if she were talking to r.l. friends...she even called you a friend..."
One thing is definite; is that my reponse to her would be much different that she had here. Why? Because person in person communications and text based message boards are very different things. Therefore different results.
That why I do not place on this message board enough importance for solving problems. Perhaps only 1% of it all does worth for problem solving. You know what funny, people even come for that 1% here. It's actually reasonable. Having 1-2 people telling you about your problems with 100% accuracy is no different from 100 people telling you about your problems with 1% accuracy.
she has to deal with it in real life, not here, so it won't be any different. if it were a game or just having fun or a verbal joust or picking on someone in play, maybe. but this is a real issue, so she will respond to it the same as in real life. she will process it the same as if she were talking to r.l. friends...she even called you a friend..."
One thing is definite; is that my reponse to her would be much different that she had here. Why? Because person in person communications and text based message boards are very different things. Therefore different results.
That why I do not place on this message board enough importance for solving problems. Perhaps only 1% of it all does worth for problem solving. You know what funny, people even come for that 1% here. It's actually reasonable. Having 1-2 people telling you about your problems with 100% accuracy is no different from 100 people telling you about your problems with 1% accuracy.
"because i can't respect an opinion from someone who doesn't show respect for me, because in return i won't respect them."
Wrong again. Showing no respect in return is a reponse. There is a difference between response and discartion of the problem. When you discard, you just forget about that problem. You act like it did not existed. Why you should take offence from something that has no effect on you? See? This is discartion, not going silent.
"if you want someone to follow you and listen to you, you have to use logic and understanding."
Wrong again. People will follow and listen to you no matter how much they try ignore you. If they took offence, they definetly will look for your post. If they didn't then there is no point in not following you. In either case, problems in reality does not exist. Only solutions exist and that what worth of sharing...if you know for sure.
" what if their guts happen to make more sense than yours, you're saying you wouldn't follow an idea better than your own"
You are repeating what I've said. If a person has a weaker sense, he's open for humiliation. He's not a leader material even from now on. A leader material is a person who has perfect sense of the situaion and wont follow anyone but him. And people who follow others, simply have minority complex. A feeling of hopelesness. Humiliation attack itself aims to increase that feeling of hopelesness which on 99% of people does work.
Wrong again. Showing no respect in return is a reponse. There is a difference between response and discartion of the problem. When you discard, you just forget about that problem. You act like it did not existed. Why you should take offence from something that has no effect on you? See? This is discartion, not going silent.
"if you want someone to follow you and listen to you, you have to use logic and understanding."
Wrong again. People will follow and listen to you no matter how much they try ignore you. If they took offence, they definetly will look for your post. If they didn't then there is no point in not following you. In either case, problems in reality does not exist. Only solutions exist and that what worth of sharing...if you know for sure.
" what if their guts happen to make more sense than yours, you're saying you wouldn't follow an idea better than your own"
You are repeating what I've said. If a person has a weaker sense, he's open for humiliation. He's not a leader material even from now on. A leader material is a person who has perfect sense of the situaion and wont follow anyone but him. And people who follow others, simply have minority complex. A feeling of hopelesness. Humiliation attack itself aims to increase that feeling of hopelesness which on 99% of people does work.
""Discarding the idea is not."
sure it is. doing the opposite of what you demand is the more probable reaction...which is exactly what we get when we humiliate others to acheive our goals...not loyalty."
No it is not. Discarding the idea is making the problem to cease. If you feel no problem about specific issue, then you do what is best for you. Not what is best for them or what is the opposite of them. You absolutely detach from issue. Do you see that?
sure it is. doing the opposite of what you demand is the more probable reaction...which is exactly what we get when we humiliate others to acheive our goals...not loyalty."
No it is not. Discarding the idea is making the problem to cease. If you feel no problem about specific issue, then you do what is best for you. Not what is best for them or what is the opposite of them. You absolutely detach from issue. Do you see that?
NOOOOOOO....dont do it LOL
Just kidding...kinda sudden though...take your time and just have fun (true aqua talk). He sounds great though. Dont let them (family/friends) pressure you into marriage either. Remember your original goals too.
Just kidding...kinda sudden though...take your time and just have fun (true aqua talk). He sounds great though. Dont let them (family/friends) pressure you into marriage either. Remember your original goals too.
"because people hold their own views above other's, either that or it is reaffirmed."
Holding your ideas above others and not understand the situation are different things. A person who holds his idea above other ideas usually discards the reality and tells what is advantageous for them. Not understanding the situation could lead to the same result because people act on limited amount of information and this could bring to different results. In short, people judge on what they provided. If they are provided with information what leads to stupidty, then they probably will try to "corrent" you by acts of humiliation, which is definetly not holding your ideas above others. It's rather trying to stop you doing something that assumingly damages you. I don't think there is an ego game play on the latter example. Here in the text based message board it is very possible that second example problems will constantly occur. The reason for that is limited communication capabilities of this cyber enviroument.
"we can't ever convince someone here to do something that they can't understand. but we can provide an interactive journal that can guide them in their thinking."
Yeah I have thinked about that alot too. I think the best method would be visual observation of all situation with added comments. I think this is the "only" and the most effective method to remove all kind of insufficiencies in understanding. The other ways seems to be impossible. Therefore, even written media is BS. Look at newspapers, how much you can understand from them? Maybe 20% ? If you understand 20% , clap you hands.
"guided her to thinking she's stupid, tells me that that's what you want her to be, that's what you expect from her... to be stupid. doesn't make sense to me."
Every communication envirouments has their own tools of "persuation". Persuation is just a tool. It does never shows the intentions, because it's just a tool. It has only one purporse, the effect of the tool. The reason could be different. That why it does not make any sense for you, because seeing the reason through tool itself is impossible.
Holding your ideas above others and not understand the situation are different things. A person who holds his idea above other ideas usually discards the reality and tells what is advantageous for them. Not understanding the situation could lead to the same result because people act on limited amount of information and this could bring to different results. In short, people judge on what they provided. If they are provided with information what leads to stupidty, then they probably will try to "corrent" you by acts of humiliation, which is definetly not holding your ideas above others. It's rather trying to stop you doing something that assumingly damages you. I don't think there is an ego game play on the latter example. Here in the text based message board it is very possible that second example problems will constantly occur. The reason for that is limited communication capabilities of this cyber enviroument.
"we can't ever convince someone here to do something that they can't understand. but we can provide an interactive journal that can guide them in their thinking."
Yeah I have thinked about that alot too. I think the best method would be visual observation of all situation with added comments. I think this is the "only" and the most effective method to remove all kind of insufficiencies in understanding. The other ways seems to be impossible. Therefore, even written media is BS. Look at newspapers, how much you can understand from them? Maybe 20% ? If you understand 20% , clap you hands.
"guided her to thinking she's stupid, tells me that that's what you want her to be, that's what you expect from her... to be stupid. doesn't make sense to me."
Every communication envirouments has their own tools of "persuation". Persuation is just a tool. It does never shows the intentions, because it's just a tool. It has only one purporse, the effect of the tool. The reason could be different. That why it does not make any sense for you, because seeing the reason through tool itself is impossible.
"trust me, i gently manipulate others for a living. "
My goal is always go to places which are not yet charted. When you clash with others, you always have to use manipulations. One unit of interest cannot be shared. Everyone has to have their own unit pf interest. By unit I mean an amount of interest that you "need" not what you "want" which mostly include stealing interest from others. Take what is even for everyone and go to the next stop, next interest and take your share there too. You will eventually find that you don't need to manipulate others to take their shares because the amount of shares in our world enough for 1000 more people than we have today.
My goal is always go to places which are not yet charted. When you clash with others, you always have to use manipulations. One unit of interest cannot be shared. Everyone has to have their own unit pf interest. By unit I mean an amount of interest that you "need" not what you "want" which mostly include stealing interest from others. Take what is even for everyone and go to the next stop, next interest and take your share there too. You will eventually find that you don't need to manipulate others to take their shares because the amount of shares in our world enough for 1000 more people than we have today.
"gentle...gentle...it works"
People shoudln't be forced to live in fear that their things could be stolen one day. This is stupid method to live for both sides. Most of the time a person who steals usually gets revenge far more agressive of what they did to others which makes this method of living..ineffective. A person who steals is an idiot. Because he/she cannot find other sources that are in great abudance already.
People shoudln't be forced to live in fear that their things could be stolen one day. This is stupid method to live for both sides. Most of the time a person who steals usually gets revenge far more agressive of what they did to others which makes this method of living..ineffective. A person who steals is an idiot. Because he/she cannot find other sources that are in great abudance already.
Anyway,
I'm off to bed now. Will talk write answers tomorrow. G'night (for me) 🙂
I'm off to bed now. Will talk write answers tomorrow. G'night (for me) 🙂
Ok, I'm back from the Astros game....wow, this went on for 9 pages!>!>!>??!?!?!
Here's Eliza's first post:
Message posted by: eliza0012 on 9/7/2006 6:30:34 AM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.20
in a day—
give me a break!!! thats not love... thats LUST.....
This aries is sooo weird we've met twice and hes already said 'I LOVE YOU' like a million times ( OK thats an exaggeration but hes said it loads)
he was telling me yesterday that he cant sleep with a girl unless hes in love with her and has strong feelings for her...yaaaa right.. he can't fall in love in a day.....
ELIZA, YOU HAD THE EXACT SAME FEELINGS AS WE DO ABOUT THIS GUY. YOU EVEN VALIDATED WHAT BRAHN AND I WERE TRYING TO TELL YOU ABOUT HIM NOT SLEEPING WITH A GIRL UNLESS HE'S IN LOVE....THIS WASN'T EVEN 2 AND A HALF WEEKS AGO...
YOU'RE QUALIFYING THIS RELATIONSHIP ON FALSE GROUNDS: 1-YOU'VE ADMITTED THAT YOU'RE UNDER PRESSURE FROM YOUR MOM TO GET INTO A MARRIAGE. 2-YOU'VE GOTTEN DEFENSIVE OVER THINGS WE'VE SAID WHEN MOST OF US WERE ONLY TRYING TO WATCH OUT FOR YOU. I'VE GIVEN YOU ADVICE FROM A FEMALE STANDPOINT AND BRAHN AND HAFFO WERE GIVING YOU A MAN'S POINT OF VIEW. 3-YOU HAD DOUBTS OVER THIS GUY'S INTENTIONS AND FEELINGS FOR YOU ON 09/07/06. IF YOU'RE ANYTHING LIKE ME AND EVERY OTHER WOMAN, WE LISTEN TO OUR INSTINCTS WHEN THEY FIRST SPEAK TO US.
I STILL THINK THIS GUY HAS A DIFFERENT MOTIVE. I HAVE NEVER MET A GROWN MAN (WITH NO MENTAL DISABILITIES) WHO HAS WILLINGLY PUT HIS FEELINGS OUT ON THE LINE SO EARLY ON WITHOUT EXPECTING OR HOPING FOR SEX.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS TOPIC. GOOD NIGHT.....I'M BUMMED THE ASTROS CAME SO FRIGGIN' CLOSE TO WINNING (BASES LOADED AND A DOUBLE OUT PLAY CAUSED THEM TO LOSE IN THE 9TH INNING - WELL THAT AND CLEMENS GAVE UP A GRAND SLAM IN THE 1ST INNING!)...
NITE ALL! 🙂
Here's Eliza's first post:
Message posted by: eliza0012 on 9/7/2006 6:30:34 AM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.20
in a day—
give me a break!!! thats not love... thats LUST.....
This aries is sooo weird we've met twice and hes already said 'I LOVE YOU' like a million times ( OK thats an exaggeration but hes said it loads)
he was telling me yesterday that he cant sleep with a girl unless hes in love with her and has strong feelings for her...yaaaa right.. he can't fall in love in a day.....
ELIZA, YOU HAD THE EXACT SAME FEELINGS AS WE DO ABOUT THIS GUY. YOU EVEN VALIDATED WHAT BRAHN AND I WERE TRYING TO TELL YOU ABOUT HIM NOT SLEEPING WITH A GIRL UNLESS HE'S IN LOVE....THIS WASN'T EVEN 2 AND A HALF WEEKS AGO...
YOU'RE QUALIFYING THIS RELATIONSHIP ON FALSE GROUNDS: 1-YOU'VE ADMITTED THAT YOU'RE UNDER PRESSURE FROM YOUR MOM TO GET INTO A MARRIAGE. 2-YOU'VE GOTTEN DEFENSIVE OVER THINGS WE'VE SAID WHEN MOST OF US WERE ONLY TRYING TO WATCH OUT FOR YOU. I'VE GIVEN YOU ADVICE FROM A FEMALE STANDPOINT AND BRAHN AND HAFFO WERE GIVING YOU A MAN'S POINT OF VIEW. 3-YOU HAD DOUBTS OVER THIS GUY'S INTENTIONS AND FEELINGS FOR YOU ON 09/07/06. IF YOU'RE ANYTHING LIKE ME AND EVERY OTHER WOMAN, WE LISTEN TO OUR INSTINCTS WHEN THEY FIRST SPEAK TO US.
I STILL THINK THIS GUY HAS A DIFFERENT MOTIVE. I HAVE NEVER MET A GROWN MAN (WITH NO MENTAL DISABILITIES) WHO HAS WILLINGLY PUT HIS FEELINGS OUT ON THE LINE SO EARLY ON WITHOUT EXPECTING OR HOPING FOR SEX.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS TOPIC. GOOD NIGHT.....I'M BUMMED THE ASTROS CAME SO FRIGGIN' CLOSE TO WINNING (BASES LOADED AND A DOUBLE OUT PLAY CAUSED THEM TO LOSE IN THE 9TH INNING - WELL THAT AND CLEMENS GAVE UP A GRAND SLAM IN THE 1ST INNING!)...
NITE ALL! 🙂
Yeah I'm with H-Peach on this. If eliza and her aries guy are really that enamoured with eachother, then why the rush?? Why not have enough confidence in you relationship to be able to prove to others as well as yourselves that it can withstand time and mundanities and trivialities and boring routine that happens on a daily basis. Cos this is what marriage is about, not passionate kisses and sweet words and bold statements. It is by actions and loyalty and compromise and sacrifice and this can only be shown to exist in the course of time, and by time I mean significantly longer than 2 weeks - maybe a year?
about 2 and a half weeks ... but it feels like i've known him forever... we have this secret understanding of hearts....
total BS... i know some people who got married after knowing each other for less than a week and they are happily married... and others dated for 8 years and ended in divorce... so thats BS....
Awwwwwww!!! Eliza! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 I'm sooo happy for you missy 😉 You have finally found someone you are compatible with 😄
Yes, I have my opinions about certain things, but like you I again that it shouldn't have to take forever to decided whether or not you want to marry someone -- it's my Aqua moon 😛
However, I do think it's really important to learn and understand someone's general personality and his/ her past before making things official. If the person feels the same about you ... then it shouldn't take them forever to reveal their past to you.
Yes, I think knowing what a person is all about is extremely important in terms of an official relationship so there won't be too many surprises -- however, so secret are good because it keeps the spice in the relationship (OH YEAH 😉)
Working as a team, sexual compatibility, perceptions on family (see what qualities will make him a good father/ husband), ambitions and other things are important subjects to discuss before marriage 🙂
But that's just my opinion, you know me 😛
total BS... i know some people who got married after knowing each other for less than a week and they are happily married... and others dated for 8 years and ended in divorce... so thats BS....
Awwwwwww!!! Eliza! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 I'm sooo happy for you missy 😉 You have finally found someone you are compatible with 😄
Yes, I have my opinions about certain things, but like you I again that it shouldn't have to take forever to decided whether or not you want to marry someone -- it's my Aqua moon 😛
However, I do think it's really important to learn and understand someone's general personality and his/ her past before making things official. If the person feels the same about you ... then it shouldn't take them forever to reveal their past to you.
Yes, I think knowing what a person is all about is extremely important in terms of an official relationship so there won't be too many surprises -- however, so secret are good because it keeps the spice in the relationship (OH YEAH 😉)
Working as a team, sexual compatibility, perceptions on family (see what qualities will make him a good father/ husband), ambitions and other things are important subjects to discuss before marriage 🙂
But that's just my opinion, you know me 😛
I can't believe how naive some of you people are!
Cappy you yourself were saying how it's a pity that people don't take the sanctity of marriage seriously enough these days. Now statistically and intuitively, if eliza were to actually follow through on her impulse to walk down the aisle with some guy she's known for less than a month, I think you'll have to agree that this marriage would be a very likely contender for the divorce courts.
So why the rush? The whole thing is pretty ridiculous. Eliza you yourself were moaning on about feeling suffocated by him and some other guy because you wanted your own space. That was a week or so ago. Then you were saying that you though the aries guy might be a bit touched the way he was telling you how much he loved you after a few days (and that prompted a discussion on how this is the usual modus operandi of aries guys to try to railroad a girl into going out with him/having sex with him).
Now, about 2 weeks later, you've decided you actually do want to marry him because he a "great awesome guy who's really selfless and open because he told you about all his investments" !! He's told you he wants to adopt a child which you think is fab. Do you realise that if you adopt a child, you have to look after the child until he or she is 16+ years of age? That means that your personal space is gonna come secondary to your child for the next 16+ years. Do you really think you're ready for this?
Most of the users don't think so, going on what you have shared with us in your previous posts. And if it's not what you wanted to hear then sorry to upset you but you really should take on board what the consensus of opinion is here. Basically no right minded person would suggest marriage after 2 weeks and you must realise this yourself.
Now if you are actually still together with this guy 6 months down the line, then drop us a post and I will apologise to you for being cynical and offending you and doubting your sincerity.
Cappy you yourself were saying how it's a pity that people don't take the sanctity of marriage seriously enough these days. Now statistically and intuitively, if eliza were to actually follow through on her impulse to walk down the aisle with some guy she's known for less than a month, I think you'll have to agree that this marriage would be a very likely contender for the divorce courts.
So why the rush? The whole thing is pretty ridiculous. Eliza you yourself were moaning on about feeling suffocated by him and some other guy because you wanted your own space. That was a week or so ago. Then you were saying that you though the aries guy might be a bit touched the way he was telling you how much he loved you after a few days (and that prompted a discussion on how this is the usual modus operandi of aries guys to try to railroad a girl into going out with him/having sex with him).
Now, about 2 weeks later, you've decided you actually do want to marry him because he a "great awesome guy who's really selfless and open because he told you about all his investments" !! He's told you he wants to adopt a child which you think is fab. Do you realise that if you adopt a child, you have to look after the child until he or she is 16+ years of age? That means that your personal space is gonna come secondary to your child for the next 16+ years. Do you really think you're ready for this?
Most of the users don't think so, going on what you have shared with us in your previous posts. And if it's not what you wanted to hear then sorry to upset you but you really should take on board what the consensus of opinion is here. Basically no right minded person would suggest marriage after 2 weeks and you must realise this yourself.
Now if you are actually still together with this guy 6 months down the line, then drop us a post and I will apologise to you for being cynical and offending you and doubting your sincerity.
Cappy you yourself were saying how it's a pity that people don't take the sanctity of marriage seriously enough these days.
YES! And I mean that! I don't think it takes 10 years to make up your mind about someone either. Hell, it shouldn't take that long but some people want to drag things out for some crazy reason.
Yes, I think people should take marriage seriously (Hahaha, I lectured on that quite a bit) but I'm not going to say that Eliza isn't "serious" just because she goes alittle faster then I would.
Would I marry someone after a year? At this point no, but I'm not in her position either. And she and I look at things differently.
Hahaha, I don't judge women who sleep with random dudes just for the hell of it. BUT I KNOW I WOULDN'T DO IT! Hahaha, I also give my opinion about them but it doesn't mean that I think they are terrible people 😉
YES! And I mean that! I don't think it takes 10 years to make up your mind about someone either. Hell, it shouldn't take that long but some people want to drag things out for some crazy reason.
Yes, I think people should take marriage seriously (Hahaha, I lectured on that quite a bit) but I'm not going to say that Eliza isn't "serious" just because she goes alittle faster then I would.
Would I marry someone after a year? At this point no, but I'm not in her position either. And she and I look at things differently.
Hahaha, I don't judge women who sleep with random dudes just for the hell of it. BUT I KNOW I WOULDN'T DO IT! Hahaha, I also give my opinion about them but it doesn't mean that I think they are terrible people 😉
So why the rush? The whole thing is pretty ridiculous. Eliza you yourself were moaning on about feeling suffocated by him and some other guy because you wanted your own space. That was a week or so ago.
Really?
Really?
^^same here
but its said when they are "ready"...they truly commit.
but its said when they are "ready"...they truly commit.
"you need to be looking for your differences, cause those are what will piss you both the hell off, in the future. It's the incompatibilities that many people can't live with."
I totally agree with that. We're all guilty of saying "Wow, this guy/girl is awesome" or "Where has this person been all my life?" but the reality is that the newness wears off and it's the flaws you must either work on or overlook. Noone is perfect and you have to be willing to accept people for who they are, despite their weaknesses or flaws. I know for me, I don't want Mr. Perfect, but rather someone who's perfect enough for me.
As I said in a few of my posts, Eliza is bouncing. She just got over that other guy and it almost seems like she's seeing/getting out of him that he didn't get out of the Aries. And like MD, I will apologize to Eliza if in 6 months these two are still together.
I totally agree with that. We're all guilty of saying "Wow, this guy/girl is awesome" or "Where has this person been all my life?" but the reality is that the newness wears off and it's the flaws you must either work on or overlook. Noone is perfect and you have to be willing to accept people for who they are, despite their weaknesses or flaws. I know for me, I don't want Mr. Perfect, but rather someone who's perfect enough for me.
As I said in a few of my posts, Eliza is bouncing. She just got over that other guy and it almost seems like she's seeing/getting out of him that he didn't get out of the Aries. And like MD, I will apologize to Eliza if in 6 months these two are still together.
I didn't know about last weeks issues ... I've missed so plenty I see 😢
I thought the Aries guy was friend of hers she met a couple of months ago-- HAHAHAHA!!! I guess I should have read all the responses 😛 I was in a hurry this morning, I had class to go to -- BIO on Saturday ... UGH!!! 😉
Eliza, were you having problems concerning the Aries man last week ——— If so, then maybe I spoke too soon —?? :O
I'm still happy for you but ...............
I thought the Aries guy was friend of hers she met a couple of months ago-- HAHAHAHA!!! I guess I should have read all the responses 😛 I was in a hurry this morning, I had class to go to -- BIO on Saturday ... UGH!!! 😉
Eliza, were you having problems concerning the Aries man last week ——— If so, then maybe I spoke too soon —?? :O
I'm still happy for you but ...............
no hard feelings... ur opinion aint changing anything...thanx for ur advice though but i can make a decison for myself... neva have i ever made a rash decision in my life....i'll do whats right for me coz im a sensible person...
And that's why I'm not worried 😉
And that's why I'm not worried 😉
it sounds like eliza still has some growing up to do...just my opinion.
"no aint no rush....but my mom's kindda pressuring me to get married...."
-BAD reason to get married...that is why there are so many divorces, people get married for the WRONG reasons...
-BAD reason to get married...that is why there are so many divorces, people get married for the WRONG reasons...
Yeah I thought it a bit strange that her mother would be pushing her into this kinda of marriage. Mothers normally try to deter their children from making rash decisions like this.
i think its fine!!! if u feel it, do it, better to wait some time though, shes not talking about tomorrow
why the red ball, peachy?
read my comments...you'll figure it out. 😉
hey elly...how are you? long time, no talk!!!
fab!!! how are you moon?
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