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has the most awesome love story and why??

for me, it's Sofia Loren and Carlo Ponti...

i read up on their biography love story and wow...so amazing!!! i love Sofia Loren. she's just soooo lovely.

Virgo Sun/Aquarius moon.Leo mars/Virgo venus Capricorn Rising.



https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Sophia_Loren

and her husbnd Carlo Ponti,



Sagittarius Sun/Capricorn moon/Pisces rising.Sag mars/Capricorn venus

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Carlo_Ponti

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they cannot be apart, he brings out the warmth in her.






Age difference : 22 years

First met when when she was 15 and he was 37




Not to mention Cary Grant - 30 years older - who never fully recovered from this day.



But then again, at the time, she was 23 so not nearly as creepy.
She's the epitome of femininity. No wonder
Do you think you'd be able to not care about someone's personality if such person was the epitome of something rare / almost transcendent?



If their rarity or transcendence were expressed through their personality, then it would be hard for me not to be interested. If not, I always dig deeper even if the outward is exceedingly rare/interesting and couldn’t possibly be overshadowed by the inward. But rarity alone isn’t a prerequisite enough for me to care. If they had severe character flaws I would be able overlook them until I’ve figured out what makes them tick. But I woudn’t care about them either way. That is of course if we assume interest and care are not interchangeable. I have a hard time distinguishing the two

I feel epitomes are too pure and undiluted. I am more drawn to people that are under conflicting influences, with many facets to them




But what if epitomes were the result of something that is not undiluted but diluted, au contraire, so well you could barely notice the flaws in someone? So you would think they're pure even though conflicting influences are still very much there. Because I see this way, like the rainbow wheel you must spin in order to obtain the colour white. That colour white which for me equals "purity" but it's given not by the subtraction of colours but rather by their addition.

With that in mind, try to put yourself in Cary's shoes - obviously let's not take into account the age difference because irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make. You lock eyes with her and you're left speechless: for the very first time you've been presented with something / someone who could be considered the embodiment of femininity. With someone who is so much of a woman, in her purest and most complicated form, that she's not even supposed to "exist" because too ideal. As if her beauty / femininity was so overbearing (and for a man empowering at the same time) that in a sense it transcended and became universal, to the point you stop caring.



Think about it, I know it's controversial but wouldn't be quite something to just look at someone and be able to say that's it! I'm so pleased with what I see that although I know this has started as something purely physical is now just as mental.

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i was postng about the less idealized beauty and you all discuss about this idealized beauty.

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has the most awesome love story and why??

for me, it's Sofia Loren and Carlo Ponti...

i read up on their biography love story and wow...so amazing!!! i love Sofia Loren. she's just soooo lovely.

Virgo Sun/Aquarius moon.Leo mars/Virgo venus Capricorn Rising.



https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Sophia_Loren

and her husbnd Carlo Ponti,



Sagittarius Sun/Capricorn moon/Pisces rising.Sag mars/Capricorn venus

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Carlo_Ponti

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they cannot be apart, he brings out the warmth in her.






Age difference : 22 years

First met when when she was 15 and he was 37




Not to mention Cary Grant - 30 years older - who never fully recovered from this day.



But then again, at the time, she was 23 so not nearly as creepy.
cap men's relationship with virgo women

can sometimes be so complicated

sophia didn't choose grant coz they had nothing in common

and she admittedly wanted a "father figure"

but knowing virgo women and how they can be with cap men,

how she burned her diaries.. there were some feelings

though she ultimately rejected him
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carlo ponti also had that capricorn moon trine his virgo rising, he was perfect for her in the fatherly way.



cary grant doesn't give off fatherly vibes even though he is a capricorn sun. he seems to me to want an equal. she isn't into that.

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this thread reminds me of a dream i had about sophia loren giving me life advice

i didn't know people placed her on a pedestal like this though

geez she's a woman, not an effigy
If you’re referring to me, I’m not really expressing an opinion about her. I’m talking about that ideal and transcendent creature I was asked to hypothesize about from the viewpoint of a obsessed man
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i just read up on cary grant's demeanour...

wow he's obsessed with cleanliness and style .



One of the wealthiest stars in Hollywood, Grant owned houses in Beverly Hills, Malibu, and Palm Springs.[282] He was immaculate in his personal grooming, and Edith Head, the renowned Hollywood costume designer, appreciated his "meticulous" attention to detail and considered him to have had the greatest fashion sense of any actor she had worked with.[283] McCann attests his "almost obsessive maintenance" with tanning, which deepened the older he got,[284] to Douglas Fairbanks, who also had a major influence on his refined sense of dress.[285] McCann notes that because Grant came from a working-class background and was not well educated, he made a particular effort over the course of his career to mix with high society and absorb their knowledge, manners and etiquette to compensate and cover it up.[286] His image was meticulously crafted from the early days in Hollywood, where he would frequently sunbathe and avoid being photographed smoking, despite smoking two packs a day at the time.[287] Grant quit smoking in the early 1950s through hypnotherapy.[288] He remained health conscious, staying very trim and athletic even into his late career, though Grant admitted he "never crook[ed] a finger to keep fit".[289] He confessed that he did "everything in moderation. Except making love".[290]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cary_Grant



his aquarius stellium trines his libra rising.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Cary_Grant

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has the most awesome love story and why??

for me, it's Sofia Loren and Carlo Ponti...

i read up on their biography love story and wow...so amazing!!! i love Sofia Loren. she's just soooo lovely.

Virgo Sun/Aquarius moon.Leo mars/Virgo venus Capricorn Rising.



https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Sophia_Loren

and her husbnd Carlo Ponti,



Sagittarius Sun/Capricorn moon/Pisces rising.Sag mars/Capricorn venus

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Carlo_Ponti

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they cannot be apart, he brings out the warmth in her.






Age difference : 22 years

First met when when she was 15 and he was 37




Not to mention Cary Grant - 30 years older - who never fully recovered from this day.



But then again, at the time, she was 23 so not nearly as creepy.
cap men's relationship with virgo women

can sometimes be so complicated

sophia didn't choose grant coz they had nothing in common

and she admittedly wanted a "father figure"

but knowing virgo women and how they can be with cap men,

how she burned her diaries.. there were some feelings

though she ultimately rejected him


carlo ponti also had that capricorn moon trine his virgo rising, he was perfect for her in the fatherly way.



cary grant doesn't give off fatherly vibes even though he is a capricorn sun. he seems to me to want an equal. she isn't into that.




women rarely admit to seeking a father figure in a man

that's the sort of thing you tell your therapist

it was probably more acceptable back then, huh?
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tha'ts because of society nowadays, putting down women who seek to have someone who can teach her and help and the man on the other end wants and desires to help/teach /guide the woman all through her years. this for her makes her happy and for him super happy.

so by speaking out loud, that she wants a father figure, alot of arm chair psychologists are gonna scream out.... yuo have chldhood problems lol well we all did to some degree and so what?
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i was reading the rest of woody allen and soon li's relationship yesterday and this is something that is intersting. lol

Woody Allen is virgo dominant. but yes he's sag sun, aqua moon libra venus capricorn mars...

but here's something that shows his sagittarius (luck) and his desire to be fatherly and he didnt even know that that was his love of life to be fatherly...it just came into his lap with soon yi.

https://pagesix.com/2015/07/30/woody-allen-soon-yi-responded-to-me-because-i-was-paternal/

“I’m 35 years older, and somehow, through no fault of mine or hers, the dynamic worked,” the 79-year-old director told NPR in an interview published Wednesday. “I was paternal. She responded to someone who was paternal.”

“She deferred to me, and I was happy to give her an enormous amount of decision-making just as a gift and let her take charge of so many things,” he continued. “She flourished. It was just a good luck thing.”



“She enjoyed being introduced to many, many things that I knew from experience, and I enjoyed showing her those things. She took them, and outstripped me in certain areas that I showed her,” he continued. “That’s why I’m a big believer in luck. I feel that you can’t orchestrate those things. Two people come along and they have a trillion exquisite needs and neuroses and nuances and they have to mesh, and if one of them doesn’t mesh, it causes a lot of trouble. It’s like the trace vitamin not being in your body. It’s a tiny little thing, but if you don’t have it you die.”
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has the most awesome love story and why??

for me, it's Sofia Loren and Carlo Ponti...

i read up on their biography love story and wow...so amazing!!! i love Sofia Loren. she's just soooo lovely.

Virgo Sun/Aquarius moon.Leo mars/Virgo venus Capricorn Rising.



https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Sophia_Loren

and her husbnd Carlo Ponti,



Sagittarius Sun/Capricorn moon/Pisces rising.Sag mars/Capricorn venus

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Carlo_Ponti

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they cannot be apart, he brings out the warmth in her.






Age difference : 22 years

First met when when she was 15 and he was 37




Not to mention Cary Grant - 30 years older - who never fully recovered from this day.



But then again, at the time, she was 23 so not nearly as creepy.
cap men's relationship with virgo women

can sometimes be so complicated

sophia didn't choose grant coz they had nothing in common

and she admittedly wanted a "father figure"

but knowing virgo women and how they can be with cap men,

how she burned her diaries.. there were some feelings

though she ultimately rejected him


carlo ponti also had that capricorn moon trine his virgo rising, he was perfect for her in the fatherly way.



cary grant doesn't give off fatherly vibes even though he is a capricorn sun. he seems to me to want an equal. she isn't into that.




women rarely admit to seeking a father figure in a man

that's the sort of thing you tell your therapist

it was probably more acceptable back then, huh?
Wait, do women really seek a father figure for their partnerships?
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no i dont see all of us the same. some women want equality.

i dont want that.
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has the most awesome love story and why??

for me, it's Sofia Loren and Carlo Ponti...

i read up on their biography love story and wow...so amazing!!! i love Sofia Loren. she's just soooo lovely.

Virgo Sun/Aquarius moon.Leo mars/Virgo venus Capricorn Rising.



https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Sophia_Loren

and her husbnd Carlo Ponti,



Sagittarius Sun/Capricorn moon/Pisces rising.Sag mars/Capricorn venus

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Carlo_Ponti

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they cannot be apart, he brings out the warmth in her.






Age difference : 22 years

First met when when she was 15 and he was 37




Not to mention Cary Grant - 30 years older - who never fully recovered from this day.



But then again, at the time, she was 23 so not nearly as creepy.
cap men's relationship with virgo women

can sometimes be so complicated

sophia didn't choose grant coz they had nothing in common

and she admittedly wanted a "father figure"

but knowing virgo women and how they can be with cap men,

how she burned her diaries.. there were some feelings

though she ultimately rejected him


carlo ponti also had that capricorn moon trine his virgo rising, he was perfect for her in the fatherly way.



cary grant doesn't give off fatherly vibes even though he is a capricorn sun. he seems to me to want an equal. she isn't into that.




women rarely admit to seeking a father figure in a man

that's the sort of thing you tell your therapist

it was probably more acceptable back then, huh?
Wait, do women really seek a father figure for their partnerships?


no i dont see all of us the same. some women want equality.

i dont want that.


Yeah, that's why I find this a little bit shocking.
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weird huh?

Sophia Loren is a virgo with virgo venus but she does have Aquarius moon trine Jupiter libra, you would think she'd want that equality.... but maybe because of her 7th house of marriage, leo/cancer that's an indication of father figure especially cancer. she's a cap rising.
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I'm so grossed out

Did Lisa quote that pedo woody Allen

Girl you crazy
lmao



he is super creepy but, for astro purposes he makes some good points on his relationship.

when asked what do you think mia farrow is doing after he and soon yi got together,

he was, "i dont know probably doing something for UNICEF" lol!!

that makes me think he knows that woman is always doing goody goody things /charity organizations out there. (good for her btw)

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i was reading the rest of woody allen and soon li's relationship yesterday and this is something that is intersting. lol

Woody Allen is virgo dominant. but yes he's sag sun, aqua moon libra venus capricorn mars...

but here's something that shows his sagittarius (luck) and his desire to be fatherly and he didnt even know that that was his love of life to be fatherly...it just came into his lap with soon yi.

https://pagesix.com/2015/07/30/woody-allen-soon-yi-responded-to-me-because-i-was-paternal/

“I’m 35 years older, and somehow, through no fault of mine or hers, the dynamic worked,” the 79-year-old director told NPR in an interview published Wednesday. “I was paternal. She responded to someone who was paternal.”

“She deferred to me, and I was happy to give her an enormous amount of decision-making just as a gift and let her take charge of so many things,” he continued. “She flourished. It was just a good luck thing.”



“She enjoyed being introduced to many, many things that I knew from experience, and I enjoyed showing her those things. She took them, and outstripped me in certain areas that I showed her,” he continued. “That’s why I’m a big believer in luck. I feel that you can’t orchestrate those things. Two people come along and they have a trillion exquisite needs and neuroses and nuances and they have to mesh, and if one of them doesn’t mesh, it causes a lot of trouble. It’s like the trace vitamin not being in your body. It’s a tiny little thing, but if you don’t have it you die.”
don't they both have virgo dominants?

you know for a creep, he makes a lot of sense

the virgo neurosis is strong

personally, there's something in my mind that's satiated

when i'm in a certain relationship

it goes beyond sex, attraction, values, attachment etc.

what it did was placate something in my mind

i believe this is true for most virgos

to other people, our choices can seem irrational

but it makes perfect sense to us
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hm but Carlo Ponti didnt have any virgo placements though. He did have pisces rising (for some reason i thought he virgo rising..but it's pisces....so that could be a Virgo Descendant.) lol



https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Carlo_Ponti



yeah with Soon li and woody allen. they are doing the virgo dance. lol
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Mary Shelley an Percy Shelly ..both talented poets, writers..

she was the creator of Frankenstein. awesome...

she was a Virgo and he was a Leo.

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i forgot to mention...what i love about mary shelly, and how she's so BRILLIANT....

is that she said, she would NEVER be with a man who is not a genius. lol

she was super honest that's for sure.

she, percy and also that aqua sun/cancer moon poet/writer were all intellectual friends/colleagues



https://leedsforlife.leeds.ac.uk/Broadening/Module/ENGL32105



Lord Byron and Percy and Mary Shelley were associates who had many intellectual and cultural interests in common. These interests are central to understanding the complex cultural phenomenon that we now call Romanticism, and all three writers were extraordinarily sensitive to the political, scientific, and aesthetic innovations of the period. Topics to be discussed in this module include the idea of heroic intellectual and political aspiration; Orientalism; forbidden passion; warfare and revolution; different attitudes to Enlightenment rationality and political optimism; images of the classical world; and the Gothic. You will have an opportunity to read and analyse some of the most important writing in the literary canon, including Mary Shelley’s disturbing Frankenstein, Byron’s comic masterpiece Don Juan, and Percy Shelley’s utopian verse drama Prometheus Unbound."





edit - i totally "get" her thinking...i wont be with someone who isn't a genius or something similar. lol

i'm thinking Shelley is the same way.
But you're not a genius so this is crazy talk to me

I also think her husband was probably pegging that aqua too
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i'm just barely genius level. lol



my husband is genius level and so is my son.



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Shelly and Byron were probably bisexual. lol infact i did read Byron was bisexual.
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Marilyn Monroe and Joe DiMaggio...


unrequited. he's a triple sagittarius who went after a gemini sun/aquarius moon pisces mars woman.

she in turn, married a Libra sun/Aquarius moon Arthur Miller. She preferred calmer guys.



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Was it really unrequited?!! From what little I read I would say she loved him but couldn't handle his possessiveness, a Gemini trait!


she had alot of demons from what i read.



http://time.com/3660588/tearful-photos-from-the-day-marilyn-divorced-dimaggio-in-1954/



But a year and a half after her marriage to Miller ended, Marilyn — all of 36 years old — was dead. DiMaggio, it seems, could not protect her from whatever demons drove her. He was only in his 40s when Marilyn died on August 5, 1962, but he never married again.

Here, LIFE.com presents pictures from October 6, 1954, when Marilyn stepped out of the house on North Palm Drive in Beverly Hills to announce she was seeking a divorce from DiMaggio on the grounds of "mental cruelty." DiMaggio had initially been drawn (like a few hundred million other men) to Marilyn's "sex goddess" persona — but he was never comfortable with her flaunting it, and was something of a self-admitted control freak. Neither DiMaggio nor Monroe could possibly have been content or satisfied in a marriage in which two such divergent personalities held sway.

I feel her troubled marriage is because of her sex symbol status and we all have heard about that infamous dress/fan scene where the director wanted her skirt to blow higher and DiMaggio lost his temper that she was made to show more skin! Idk but yeah most men would be troubled by something like that. He wasn't in a mental state to marry a woman as famous as she was and that too the most desirable woman, someone who was considered by most as the sex symbol!

Imagine if she weren't a sex symbol? Maybe they could have had a chance at love...

He did leave flowers by her grave for many years after her death and that's what touched me the most! It was her wish and he did it... For years


She's kind of a scum bag ands huge narcissist
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i didnt like her at first because i was annoyed with why she allowed men to treat her taht way and shes so wishy washy. lol

even in her films she is sooooo sweet and sugary and helpless like. but she does need care and love, and protection. there's a lost little girl in her when yuo get down to seeing her trueness. not the superficiality of what films and movies and her exposure in hollywood has done.

infact she has a weakness that if in the wrong hands of people she would go down the dark path.
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was looking into virgo moons

and saw that jon hamm's a pisces sun-virgo moon

he married a sag woman

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jon hamm? he's not married though.i checked.

he's gone back and forth with that aquarius woman, jennifer westfeldt.

and he doesn't have a rising sign, soooo there's a huge possibility he's a leo moon. because it is close to the leo moon lol

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Jon_Hamm



he does have a little earth though. his saturn taurus trine pluto virgo. but unless we have his rising it's kind of iffy. I'd give him a leo moon cause he seems to like fire/air suns lol

he is also an Aquarius venus, & stellium in sagittarius.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Jennifer_Westfeldt

she is possibly cap moon though or aqua moon, but sag moon seems to fit her too, it's hard because she could be sag rising lol or aqua rising or any of the 12 risings.

Aquarius venus, Jupiter Scorpio, Taurus saturn, and an Aries mars

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4567132/Jon-Hamm-talks-Jennifer-Westfeldt-split.html



they talk about him being a narcissist and he calls himself "Damaged"



nd then he got very candid about his problems.

'I’m certainly damaged — there’s no denying it,' he admitted.

'If you look at the history of my life, it’s not great. When your mom dies when you’re nine, and your dad dies when you’re 20, and then you live on couches in other people’s basements … I mean, there’s certainly a version of that person who does not come out of it as successfully as I have.'



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he's very much portraying the main charcter of Mad Men

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was looking into virgo moons

and saw that jon hamm's a pisces sun-virgo moon

he married a sag woman

mutables
jon hamm? he's not married though.i checked.

he's gone back and forth with that aquarius woman, jennifer westfeldt.

and he doesn't have a rising sign, soooo there's a huge possibility he's a leo moon. because it is close to the leo moon lol

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Jon_Hamm



he does have a little earth though. his saturn taurus trine pluto virgo. but unless we have his rising it's kind of iffy. I'd give him a leo moon cause he seems to like fire/air suns lol

he is also an Aquarius venus, & stellium in sagittarius.

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology/Jennifer_Westfeldt

she is possibly cap moon though or aqua moon, but sag moon seems to fit her too, it's hard because she could be sag rising lol or aqua rising or any of the 12 risings.

Aquarius venus, Jupiter Scorpio, Taurus saturn, and an Aries mars

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4567132/Jon-Hamm-talks-Jennifer-Westfeldt-split.html



they talk about him being a narcissist and he calls himself "Damaged"



nd then he got very candid about his problems.

'I’m certainly damaged — there’s no denying it,' he admitted.

'If you look at the history of my life, it’s not great. When your mom dies when you’re nine, and your dad dies when you’re 20, and then you live on couches in other people’s basements … I mean, there’s certainly a version of that person who does not come out of it as successfully as I have.'



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he's very much portraying the main charcter of Mad Men

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lol i thought he's married

anyway, i don't think he's got a very high opinion of himself

if i were him, i'd always feel like that kid sleeping

in other people's basement
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i notice that. and he's doing well in his career, but i get the feeling he feels depressed alot. (maybe why he drinks and has gone into rehab in and out) it's been said that he went back to the aquarius because she is "comfortable" and they've been together many many years. you want that "comfort" ...

but he is sooo flirtatious too. (maybe it's his stellium sagitarius) reminds me of Danny Devito fiasco with his wife Rita Perlman and how she kicked him out because he flirts sooo much ....the flirting is beyond too much..it is womanizing according to her.

in the article he was flirting alot with Leo Kate Beckingsale, but there's nothing going on and sadly Kate Beckingsale was married to Len Wiseman (another pisces man) but they divorced.

i was sad to read that too.