
ashley1734
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Posted by sweetmaree88Yeah I was thinking it had a lot to do with upbringing, but then this isn't my only Aries friend who has been this way. My other very close Aries friend met a guy at a car rental place in Texas (we live in CA) and next thing you know she's gonna move there (like a month later)...I knew she would get upset if I didn't just blindly support it so I just tried to guide her a little, telling her that if she moved there, she should NOT live with him, she should get a roommate or something and just enjoy being in closer proximity to him and get to know each other and date (even this idea seemed insane to me, but much more reasonable than her picking up and moving in with a stranger, which is what someone is after a month or two).
I was going to say: She sounds really insecure, but you said it already. Confidence and self-love has more to do with how a person goes about the world then what astrology dictates, I do feel that placements have a lot to do with too, of course.
Meh, why have so many "rules" if you're not even going to maintain standards! LOL
Insecure (desperate) people tend to attract people who mirror their faults 😢
The only Aries girl I know (from school days) was horribly insecure - She was captain Hoe on the Hoe Express, very sweet though. She was skinny as a rail with nice boobs but she was always worried about being fat - She once asked me if sleeping with two dudes at a party in one night made her a slut (genuine question). I - someone who is never without words - was rendered speechless!
I did date an Aries briefly - Aside from being a literal psychopath (nothing to do w being Aries) he was dreadfully insecure. However, he had poor upbringing - crazy as hell - so probably a bad example lol.
Your moon is in Virgo like me - I think that keeps us sane about getting to know people before launching into a relationship. Rationalizing emotions can be good - I am impossible to manipulate and picky af.




Posted by bkbella86Yes...I want to know how I can still be a friend to her and let her know she's repeating the same patterns without her getting defensive as hell.
Ok and? Are you asking for advice or something? I missed the point.

Posted by sweetmaree88Yeah it really is starting to affect me because she comes to me for advise or comes to me depressed and crying wanting to discuss what went wrong with her last relationship, but then the next week is doing exactly the same things as before and then comes back to me all stressed about it again with anxiety.
Haha yea my Venus is in Aries too - So I know exactly what you are referring to. I get myself into sticky situations but it never lasts long (month if that). Which I can live with and I never make life changes...
I looked through my friends list and a you're right, some of these Aries girls do not make good choices at all when it comes to men. My friends sister is pregnant by a man who does drugs/alchy and has two kids by two different women lol.
I bet if they have some sort of earth placement as their moon or asc - that would ground them. I have an Aries cousin and she doesn't date at all, same with my Aries aunt. Now I am curious lol
Virgo moon = fixer. Not everyone can be fixed and it's easier to walk away, sadly. I've been there. The truth is so painfully obvious, yet others just cannot see it and continue to make the same mistakes. I try to practice what I preach but it's tough!!
Especially at 33 - I have no doubt she's a good person - but when her shit starts affecting your shit. Shit gets real!

Posted by DMVEXACTLY what my friend does. Has this thing where she w ants to prove me wrong, but I am not at all in a position where I am wanting to challenge her at all, I'm trying to help and protect her...for some reason that just isn't how she sees it (not just with me but in general). She will leave out information about a guy very early on because she probably knows herself it is a red flag but doesn't want to accept it and she knows if she were to divulge the truth I would be the first to tell her what I thought.
I think its a combination of things. I had an aries friend who was in relationship after relationship. never spent time with herself. some people are relationship oriented. I get that. So you have that firey optimism mixed with wanting a challenge. prove ppl wrong.
She used to date a taurus. everyone told her about this tauri guy including myself. he used to hit on me and invited me back to his place for a 4some. i declined and told her everything. he lied to her and denied ever bringing me to his place even though i had a witness and could describe his place. whatevers, DMV is the liar. But she felll in love with him anyway, moved in with him. then he dumped her in the bathroom at a party. She later found out that he was sleeping around behind her back....so DMV tried to warn her but whatver. Told her not to date that negro. He ended up proposing to said girl and not the aries.
Moving on to the next guy, 2 kids deep but 2 different men. She asked me if i would date him. I said no. I also knew about his past. She took my no as me being not supportive of her, but that was totally false. so she again went against my advice and dated the guy. he treated her like crap and she was too embarrassed to tell me all the things he had done. he dumped her and moved in with another girl, her enemy.
i eventually had enough of her judgement calls and i wasnt the only one. i really feel like she just gets in these relationships just to prove me wrong and they present a challenge.

Posted by xtinaI love that quote.
Be honest about how you feel not because you expect her to change but because you value your friendship and trust and honesty is important in any relationships. I think if you're coming from a place of doing right by her and yourself and her by being true to yourself rather than expecting her to change it should strengthen your relationship not hurt it(if you have a strong relationship to begin with.
I'm not in the same situation but similar. Where I don't agree with my friends choices but I support her. You said it yourself that you can't really help her because she doesn't want to help herself. Seems to me like she won't lest herself until she's ready to learn. So all you can really do to help is by just being supportive. Honest. But supportive regardless. I think if you come from that place of honesty but love and support you will be ok. Because at the end of the day she makes her own choices and decisions. You can't make her choices because you wouldn't have to live with the consequences. She does. And at the end of the day she's a grown adult capable of making her own choices and all you can really do is support her.
"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live." -Oscar Wilde

Posted by ashley1734i would not expect her to change. she has to want to do that for herself. either you stay friends and let he know that you dont want to be involved in any relationship talk or ride off into the sunset.Posted by DMVEXACTLY what my friend does. Has this thing where she w ants to prove me wrong, but I am not at all in a position where I am wanting to challenge her at all, I'm trying to help and protect her...for some reason that just isn't how she sees it (not just with me but in general). She will leave out information about a guy very early on because she probably knows herself it is a red flag but doesn't want to accept it and she knows if she were to divulge the truth I would be the first to tell her what I thought.
I think its a combination of things. I had an aries friend who was in relationship after relationship. never spent time with herself. some people are relationship oriented. I get that. So you have that firey optimism mixed with wanting a challenge. prove ppl wrong.
She used to date a taurus. everyone told her about this tauri guy including myself. he used to hit on me and invited me back to his place for a 4some. i declined and told her everything. he lied to her and denied ever bringing me to his place even though i had a witness and could describe his place. whatevers, DMV is the liar. But she felll in love with him anyway, moved in with him. then he dumped her in the bathroom at a party. She later found out that he was sleeping around behind her back....so DMV tried to warn her but whatver. Told her not to date that negro. He ended up proposing to said girl and not the aries.
Moving on to the next guy, 2 kids deep but 2 different men. She asked me if i would date him. I said no. I also knew about his past. She took my no as me being not supportive of her, but that was totally false. so she again went against my advice and dated the guy. he treated her like crap and she was too embarrassed to tell me all the things he had done. he dumped her and moved in with another girl, her enemy.
i eventually had enough of her judgement calls and i wasnt the only one. i really feel like she just gets in these relationships just to prove me wrong and they present a challenge.
It's starting to become an exhausting friendship 😢 But I've never broken up with a friend before, especially one that is so co-dependent and lost.
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Posted by DMVI completely agree and she is completely about that...with the pride and hiding things because she doesn't want to hear any truth.
She wants a "Yes" man out of me. Yes means im supporting her. No means i dont. which is not friggin true. You should want your friends to be honest with you and not lie to you.

Posted by ashley1734I understand. It's up to you and whether you want to maintain the relationship. But realize no ones perfect. We all have our weaknesses and it doesn't make you better or worse for it it just makes you human.Posted by xtinaI love that quote.
Be honest about how you feel not because you expect her to change but because you value your friendship and trust and honesty is important in any relationships. I think if you're coming from a place of doing right by her and yourself and her by being true to yourself rather than expecting her to change it should strengthen your relationship not hurt it(if you have a strong relationship to begin with.
I'm not in the same situation but similar. Where I don't agree with my friends choices but I support her. You said it yourself that you can't really help her because she doesn't want to help herself. Seems to me like she won't lest herself until she's ready to learn. So all you can really do to help is by just being supportive. Honest. But supportive regardless. I think if you come from that place of honesty but love and support you will be ok. Because at the end of the day she makes her own choices and decisions. You can't make her choices because you wouldn't have to live with the consequences. She does. And at the end of the day she's a grown adult capable of making her own choices and all you can really do is support her.
"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live." -Oscar Wilde
I think I have done what you have suggested thus far in our relationship, but it is really hard spending so much time consoling this person only to have her turn around and make the same poor choices and not want to hear anything about it. I want to be there for her but I'm starting to think about the whole "we are the company we keep" thing and I don't know how close I want to be with her anymore, which sounds bad, but she seems so weak and unwilling to grow.click to expand


Posted by bmoon8Ok I will go at it from that angle...again.Posted by ashley1734Aries defense mechanism is strong. I would tell her by being honest with her and remind her that you are just looking out for her because you're friends. And no need to get highly defensive, but to just hear you out and think about what you are telling her.Posted by bkbella86Yes...I want to know how I can still be a friend to her and let her know she's repeating the same patterns without her getting defensive as hell.
Ok and? Are you asking for advice or something? I missed the point.click to expand

Posted by bkbella86Not at all what this post is about.
lol @ you ending a friendship because of her choices in men. Sounds like your more mad that she doesn't listen to you not cuz you genuinely care as a friend.


Posted by RamOfPeaceThat would be a nice way to look at it except for the fact that I watch her become extremely depressed when these things don't work out. Putting all her eggs in one basket over and over and over. I wish I could help but like everyone said, I really can't
Fire signs are not known for their subtlety or moderate tempo. In certain cases, it is for the best. Try to look at it this way: the faster it burns, the less time she spent wasting. But it sure counts as nice memories and experience for the next rodeo.

Posted by ashley1734She will find her way. I once put myself under the water completely for 8 months over an ex Leeb. Today he's dating yet another girl and I could care less. What doesn't kill you..Posted by RamOfPeaceThat would be a nice way to look at it except for the fact that I watch her become extremely depressed when these things don't work out. Putting all her eggs in one basket over and over and over. I wish I could help but like everyone said, I really can't
Fire signs are not known for their subtlety or moderate tempo. In certain cases, it is for the best. Try to look at it this way: the faster it burns, the less time she spent wasting. But it sure counts as nice memories and experience for the next rodeo.click to expand

Posted by RamOfPeaceFreakin Libras though...Posted by ashley1734She will find her way. I once put myself under the water completely for 8 months over an ex Leeb. Today he's dating yet another girl and I could care less. What doesn't kill you..Posted by RamOfPeaceThat would be a nice way to look at it except for the fact that I watch her become extremely depressed when these things don't work out. Putting all her eggs in one basket over and over and over. I wish I could help but like everyone said, I really can't
Fire signs are not known for their subtlety or moderate tempo. In certain cases, it is for the best. Try to look at it this way: the faster it burns, the less time she spent wasting. But it sure counts as nice memories and experience for the next rodeo.click to expand

Posted by LillyPetalLike I said, it isn't really for me to judge that's why I tried to make a point to say "in my opinion" because I truly don't believe there's a set way to do any of this dating crap.
"They only dated 3 months, were already saying I love you and spending holidays with each other's families...in my opinion, that's way too fast, but that's really not for me to judge..."
@Ashley1734, out of curiosity when do you think it's appropriate to say "I love you" and meet the families and spend holidays with them?

Posted by ashley1734Yep, I understand you're giving your opinion. Any ideas regarding relationships are taken as personal opinions by me because I'm all too aware that things are different for every couple.Posted by LillyPetalLike I said, it isn't really for me to judge that's why I tried to make a point to say "in my opinion" because I truly don't believe there's a set way to do any of this dating crap.
"They only dated 3 months, were already saying I love you and spending holidays with each other's families...in my opinion, that's way too fast, but that's really not for me to judge..."
@Ashley1734, out of curiosity when do you think it's appropriate to say "I love you" and meet the families and spend holidays with them?
That being said, I am comfortable meeting a person I'm dating's friends very early (a month or so in), meeting a sibling or mom and dad briefly, sure but spending holidays with them, I don't know...that would be more like 8 months to a year in for me.click to expand

Posted by Capricorn180189_GS"Lust"
So it is true that Aries fall in love quickly. Hmmm

Posted by champrangerYou're right...that's why I was careful to point out that it is only my opinion. It is more the fact that because she moves so quickly, she makes herself susceptible to all this hurt.
Also, fast and slow are relative terms, imo.

Posted by champrangerRepeating the same patterns over and over again and then complaining and making yourself ill with stress over such decisions is wrong.Posted by ashley1734Some people welcome risks while others tries to avoid it and take the least risky route. One doesn't make the other wrong.Posted by champrangerYou're right...that's why I was careful to point out that it is only my opinion. It is more the fact that because she moves so quickly, she makes herself susceptible to all this hurt.
Also, fast and slow are relative terms, imo.
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Posted by RumiLHoly crap yeah Aries and Sag all in one. FEISTY.
Repeating mistakes...repenting..talking in such a way *resolving* to change(you are actually amazed by their resolve and think they've learnt) ....again doing the same thing but getting offended when pointed out ....yes very Aries like.
My mom - a fiery Sag with Aries moon is like this. Honestly.. I'm tired of it. It just.. I feel so helpless, I've become indifferent to it.
In my experience, nothing you can do when they've decided to do something. NOTHING. I have just decided to warn my mom, and to just be there so that if she falls, I'll hold her or atleast help her pick herself up. *shrugs*

Posted by ariesheartThank you...I'll let her do just that.
There's not much you can do I you "know" she's insecure. That's demons only she can fight. And as a Aries, most of the time we can care less about what others gotta say. We're stubborn and selfish. Gotta learn on our own



Posted by ashley1734Here you go
And for the record, an "exciting" life for me does not and will never revolve around men.



Posted by AriesJo
I'm shocked actually, I don't understand why it bothers you so much, almost sounds like you are jealous you don't have an exciting lifestyle like hers or something (I'm sort of joking, but I don't know why you feel like this).
I'm Aries and I move quick and that's the way I like it, I will slow down for air signs but other fire signs then it can go quick, we aren't scared of things, we aren't scared of life. And I've had relationships in the past where when they've ended, some of my friends have been acting like "you'll know better for next time" or "we learn from our mistakes".. and I just think they must be seriously boring people.
I want to live life, and get the most out of it, I don't have patience, I don't care if I make mistakes, the only thing I fear is never trying. I want to know if the relationship is right quickly, and I want to spend time with someone new that I've just met, and I want to make the most of my time on this planet (which usually includes going on holiday fairly soon after meeting someone new). So I would ask yourself what is so wrong with what she's doing? People move at different speeds, and I know women that need a year to work out whether it feels right, and it kind of seems boring to me, that's a whole year, lots of things can happen, and if it doesn't work out that what a waste of time. And trust me, there will be guys like her that will move at her speed, and she just need to get one. Then she might show you what it's about. And who is saying she's making mistakes, you or her? lol people say that to me, and maybe cos I might be upset after a breakup, but most of the time I think wow I had a blast with that girl and my life is exciting and random, and that's the way I like it. I am not boring. Most people are so boring and so afraid of making mistakes, they don't live, your friend should never be afraid of making mistakes, and I don't think you should try and change her.

Posted by busyeyes88😢
She is a fire sign sun... "crash and burn"... That's standard...
My Aries BFF is exactly the same! It brings tears to my eyes when I think of how she threw her marriage away and how the last relationship almost cost her her life.... So sad ”


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So this particular friend of mine...she is very religious, doesn't drink, etc. She has always said she has very high standards for herself...and a lot of other rules, like not wanting to date anyone with a kid, or anyone who drinks or does drugs, only wants to date a Christian, etc. All good and well. But the last guy she dated was of a different faith (good for her for being open-minded), but also drank and smoked and was not really at all what she wanted. Once again, I tried to just ask a little about it, and tell her he seemed like he's from a different crowd and she assured me he told her he would quit smoking weed, etc. etc. Long story short, he breaks up with her because she was moving way too fast. They only dated 3 months, were already saying I love you and spending holidays with each other's families...in my opinion, that's way too fast, but that's really not for me to judge. Except then she was completely devastated. Wasn't eating, completely depressed, would talk to me about it all day every day. It got exhausting. So that breakup happened around Christmas.
They have been back and forth talking and arguing and he actually got a new chick pretty quickly afterwards.
So fast forward to know...she's repeating the EXACT SAME thing with a new guy. Going way too fast. After the last guy, she told me I better tell her when I see red flags about a guy next time...and that's really not for me to say because everyone's red flags are different, but the thing is...all the red flags are on HER behavior. What can I do here? I already tried to gently tell her she should just take it slow and she got extremely defensive again so I dropped it.
She's 33 and it seems like she's posting about a new dude every other week. I know she is insecure and wants to look like she is getting all this attention, etc....but it is doing the opposite and she looks foolish 😢