when your friends say....

When you're discussing something with a friend and something comes up that you disagree on and they say " anyway let's not get in to it" or " let's just agree to disagree".... NO NO NO HOLD UUUUPP... BISH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW!!

Oh I hate that! lol I'm like, "Um NO! We don't have to agree, let's get into it." lol I find discussions exciting, and sharing different views is not a big deal. As Aries sun, you will always hear how I feel. That's for sure, and that energy can be intimidating to some. That's most likely where the "let's not get into this" comes from.

Depends on what it is. Sometimes they say that just because they know they don't have anything to back their side up with and then I go nonononono. But if it's something we've discussed before and we both know how that discussion will end I just let it go.

Ooops sorry. I didn't realize this was an aries thread.

But I am a cardinal sun with chiron in aries... That should be enough? Right? No? 😉 *runs out of thread*

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Ooops sorry. I didn't realize this was an aries thread.

But I am a cardinal sun with chiron in aries... That should be enough? Right? No? 😉 *runs out of thread*

lol As an Aries sun, I welcome you to join! 😛

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Posted by HappyCapper
Ooops sorry. I didn't realize this was an aries thread.

But I am a cardinal sun with chiron in aries... That should be enough? Right? No? 😉 *runs out of thread*

lol As an Aries sun, I welcome you to join! 😛

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Ooo! I feel honored! Thank you! 🙂

@starwars
I judge people based partly on their opinions. If it's your opinion that gassing jews is a good thing, then I am going to judge you, yes. Doesn't everyone judge people partly based on their opinions? Don't you?

Now, let's see how I'm gonna make you have the same opinion as me about this. Mwahahahahaaaaa. 😉

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@starwars
I judge people based partly on their opinions. If it's your opinion that gassing jews is a good thing, then I am going to judge you, yes. Doesn't everyone judge people partly based on their opinions? Don't you?

Now, let's see how I'm gonna make you have the same opinion as me about this. Mwahahahahaaaaa. 😉

hahaha! in that case, its true.
we never discussed gassing jaws tho lol. but lots of silly stuff.
she would truly avoid and throw shades non stop at someone just because their opinion doesn't match hers. i find that really odd.
like she discussed who you should date and who you shouldn't with my scorpio friend the other day, since then..she won't stop throwing shades and judging the Scorpio.
I'm with discussing and exchanging opinions but it shouldn't make you hate people! that's narrow. everyone can have their own opinion about something.

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If we don't talk about extreeme cases, I do think it's up to each and every person to decide whom to date, as long as it's concentual, ofc - that I wouldn't judge. What you describe is, imo, self righteousness, which I haaate too.

i'm also fore discussing and exchanging opinions. I it's a good virgo trait to be able to do that, while being able to see things from an objective pov even if they are personally involved...usually...😉 But you say:

"I get irritated when my cap sister discuss anything , oh my god. she talk loudly its annoying she also try to convince me to have the same opinion as hers"

So it seems to me you like discussing things, but not in the way she wants to do it. And let's say you are discussing something that you are really passionate about...like not gassing jews...and your sister says: yeah, you're wrong, but, whatever and starts to leave. How would you react? Wouldn't you be the one to go nonononno?

I did that with a friend who tried to tell me evolution was a scam. Yup. She's sweet so I had to stop hat discussion. Fucking evangelicals.

Posted by kissmygrits
I did that with a friend who tried to tell me evolution was a scam. Yup. She's sweet so I had to stop hat discussion. Fucking evangelicals.

Yes, that's not when you lead the discussion towards The Flying Spaghetti Monster. lol

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But you say:

"I get irritated when my cap sister discuss anything , oh my god. she talk loudly its annoying she also try to convince me to have the same opinion as hers"

So it seems to me you like discussing things, but not in the way she wants to do it. And let's say you are discussing something that you are really passionate about...like not gassing jews...and your sister says: yeah, you're wrong, but, whatever and starts to leave. How would you react? Wouldn't you be the one to go nonononno?

if its something serious and I could see as important, I do discuss it with her. its those discussions about other girls and stuff -even if she was passionate about- that I be 'whatever' about it.
if its me and I do feel passionately about what im discussing and it's important. then yeah its annoying.
I usually huff and roll my eyes, that's it. to me, pointing my opinion is more important than the reaction i get whether they agreed or not. but walking away is just rude.

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So it's about what we as individuals feel is important and how to discuss it. I bet the discussions about the other girls are super important to her. Your sister is younger than you?

Posted by JURR
When you're discussing something with a friend and something comes up that you disagree on and they say " anyway let's not get in to it" or " let's just agree to disagree".... NO NO NO HOLD UUUUPP... BISH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW!!

OMG i so agree! my friend is such an introvert, and im an extrovert! so basically she is not a big fan of discussion. However the problem is when there is an issue present that needs to be discussed when i try to form a discussion to find common ground, she will say "LEAVE IT" or "JUST FORGET IT" .basically she will try her best to avoid discussing whatever issue is present at the time. And at first i found it really really strange , however i put it down to her being an introvert, and generally the quiet type, which she is. And i sort of learnt to accept her for who she is , because thats what friends doo? however it still baffles me in our 8 years of friendship how one can hate verbal discussion/communication. As im not used to someone not being open with discussing things , as i like to talk/communicate, so at the early stages of our friendship i found it quite strange however as i got to know her, i realised this was actually her personality, and who am i try and change her? . but to cut a long story short, i think shes realised that with me discussion is very important, so now whenever she trys to shut discussions down im like NO. JUST DONT. And i say what i have to say lol and she says her peice briefly then shuts it down. We never really have a full discussion unfortunately. However Its not as if she doesn't know how to communicate , because when she talks shes really smart/articulate, however she just doesnt like to discuss pressing issues! its almost painful for me to accept this of her. But i have, and im dealing with it . Another thing ive noticed is that she will get upset if i push her to try and discuss whatever it is that needs discussing?? so GIRL i totally understand this post and can relate, thanks for sharing haha.

What drives me completely fucking mental is "everyone is entitled to their opinion"

OH FUCK NOES. NO NO NO NO NOPE NOPE GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH THAT SHIT.

First off, I hate the word "entitled", it makes my skin crawl. Second, it is a passive aggressive tactic (I hate passive aggressiveness) used to shut down communication so the user doesn't have to account for their shit.

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But you say:

"I get irritated when my cap sister discuss anything , oh my god. she talk loudly its annoying she also try to convince me to have the same opinion as hers"

So it seems to me you like discussing things, but not in the way she wants to do it. And let's say you are discussing something that you are really passionate about...like not gassing jews...and your sister says: yeah, you're wrong, but, whatever and starts to leave. How would you react? Wouldn't you be the one to go nonononno?

if its something serious and I could see as important, I do discuss it with her. its those discussions about other girls and stuff -even if she was passionate about- that I be 'whatever' about it.
if its me and I do feel passionately about what im discussing and it's important. then yeah its annoying.
I usually huff and roll my eyes, that's it. to me, pointing my opinion is more important than the reaction i get whether they agreed or not. but walking away is just rude.

So it's about what we as individuals feel is important and how to discuss it. I bet the discussions about the other girls are super important to her. Your sister is younger than you?

by saying important I mean its discussable (lol is that a word) which means we're either trying to find solutions or understanding the situation or just simply acceptance to hear other perspective .

so yes if it's something that is effecting her and shes willing to listen-even if i find it stupid- id discuss it, but if its something i cant see a point of discussing it where she only wants to hear what she like, and for me to agree with her i don't do it. hope that made sense.

shes older.

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Yes, it definitely makes sense to me. You sure she's a cap, though? 😉

Posted by kissmygrits
I did that with a friend who tried to tell me evolution was a scam. Yup. She's sweet so I had to stop hat discussion. Fucking evangelicals.

I smell it from 1000 miles when a discussion is all about the belief systems. or value system.

I am rarely interested in convincing somebody else. My point is always to save time for learning something new. After 1-2-3 trials to tell my point of view the talk is dead for me.

there are other people who can put energy into talks for hours. I know.

Posted by JURR
When you're discussing something with a friend and something comes up that you disagree on and they say " anyway let's not get in to it" or " let's just agree to disagree".... NO NO NO HOLD UUUUPP... BISH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW!!

Because you guys are exhausting. Its like arguing with a child. Its goes on forever.

its much more productive to just walk away.

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When you're discussing something with a friend and something comes up that you disagree on and they say " anyway let's not get in to it" or " let's just agree to disagree".... NO NO NO HOLD UUUUPP... BISH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW!!

I agree. The debate is the best part. To skip over it is to utterly suffocate a conversation.