Christianity comes from the Feminine Signs

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i was at my school today and this guy said to me weed is bad ( referencing my wallet ) . i said we all do what we gotta do to get through this life right . I said do you watch porn , bite your nails , blah ,blah and he got so taken aback by when i said porn . Then i noticed the cross around his neck and i said is god how you get through and he shook his head . then i asked him what his Zodiac sign was ( Taurus) he was very cute and clean looking .


Feminine signs created "god" to help them get through this life . they are sensitive people who try to mask by being tough . i can never click with there energy i feel it and it don't work for me
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i was at my school today and this guy said to me weed is bad ( referencing my wallet ) . i said we all do what we gotta do to get through this life right . I said do you watch porn , bite your nails , blah ,blah and he got so taken aback by when i said porn . Then i noticed the cross around his neck and i said is god how you get through and he shook his head . then i asked him what his Zodiac sign was ( Taurus) he was very cute and clean looking .


Feminine signs created "god" to help them get through this life . they are sensitive people who try to mask by being tough . i can never click with there energy i feel it and it don't work for me

interesting link to the churches full with women and especially older women.

Even my favorite Gemini Sun, Joyce Meyer, has her Moon, Venus and Jupiter in Cancer. Plus Mercury in Taurus.
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And every atheist earth and water sign person coughed awkwardly.

It's odd when it comes to earth signs for me. Ones I run into usually do seem religious, while you can ones like Carl Sagan who is a naturalist.

As for religion as a coping mechanism, are you implying a belief in a higher power = weakness?

Since the same could be said for needing to be drunk or stoned to "deal".

Furthermore, the feminine signs are negative dark signs, in the sense of being receptive and working with what's there. So really, if working the darkest parts of humanity and controlling them = weak, then I suppose you have a point.

Have fun selling to people Scorpios, Capricorns and Taurus are weaklings.


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Furthermore, the feminine signs are negative dark signs, in the sense of being receptive and working with what's there. ...

I don't know if you were saying this but that reminds me of this: their awareness of their dark Feelings and inner lives urge them to do something against all that negativity.

Like when men gets a baby daughter and suddenly they want to be better man. They know already what they had in their minds before this life changing event.

Just an idea.
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A friend of mine says Jesus is Virgo Sun,
and the three Kings of the East were astrologers
who linked an sky event with his birth. And that event could only have happened at the end of the summer.

I have forgotten all the details. Whether it was an eclipse or what. Maybe this article goes in the same direction:
Revelation 12:1—3 shows a New Moon day that could only be observed from earth just after sunset, and the day was September 11th.
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"Christianity" is not feminine.

"Christianity" was created by and dictated by MEN.

The actual teachings of Jesus however WERE feminine.

Mary Magdalene was his wife, and her input influenced him and his teachings greatly. The Gnostics recognized this and held Mary Magdalene in highest regard, second only to Jesus himself.

The apostles were pissed because Jesus confided in Mary more than them. So in typical testosterone-driven, ?_ber-masculine, mysoginistic fashion, they called her a whore and erased her from "Christianity".



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"Christianity" is not feminine.

"Christianity" was created by and dictated by MEN.

The actual teachings of Jesus however WERE feminine.

Mary Magdalene was his wife, and her input influenced him and his teachings greatly. The Gnostics recognized this and held Mary Magdalene in highest regard, second only to Jesus himself.

The apostles were pissed because Jesus confided in Mary more than them. So in typical testosterone-driven, ?_ber-masculine, mysoginistic fashion, they called her a whore and erased her from "Christianity".



This is so true. I read about it in the Weekly World News.
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"Christianity" is not feminine.

"Christianity" was created by and dictated by MEN.

The actual teachings of Jesus however WERE feminine.

Mary Magdalene was his wife, and her input influenced him and his teachings greatly. The Gnostics recognized this and held Mary Magdalene in highest regard, second only to Jesus himself.

The apostles were pissed because Jesus confided in Mary more than them. So in typical testosterone-driven, ?_ber-masculine, mysoginistic fashion, they called her a whore and erased her from "Christianity".



This is so true. I read about it in the Weekly World News.
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I figured it was the epilogue in the daVinci Code...

?? la Dan Brown.
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I really don't know Stephen Hawking. I guess I heard from a Christian missionary that he does too much against Religion (or was it only God?). Is it true? Anyway this is his chart:

Feminine energy: Sun/Merc/Pallas:Cap, Sat/Uran:Taur, Lilith:Cc, Moon/NN:Virgo, Juno:Sc => 9 pieces
Masculine energy: AC/Venus/Ceres:Aq, Mars:Ar, Jup:Gem, Pluto/Chiron/DC:Leo, Neptune:Lib, PoF/Vesta:Sag => 11 pieces

Also he has Mars, Neptune and Lilith at border degrees.

Without Lilith, astroids and arabic point: 6 against 8.

Source: http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Hawking,_Steven
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Is Islam also a feminine sign? It is derived from Judaism and Christianity, too. Interestingly, I think of Islam as a masculine one with their prophet.

Well, he had 11 feminine placements:
Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces, Taurus, virgo, Capricorn.

What I find interesting about him is that Mars in Cancer.

He had two episodes in his time of leading. First he was peaceful in the city of Medina. There his enemies were very bad to him and also made fun of him. Also tried to kill him. So he emigrated to Meka. In that episode he got more serious and exported Islam to other parts of his country via sword.

He had learned all about Christianity when he was younger. I think when his angry Mars in Cancer saw the peaceful way is too slow, brings suffering as in the case of Jesus, decided to give a new meaning to this verse: ??Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword.?? (Mt 10:34)

What do you expect from a Taurus with MC in Scorpio? Sun Taurus oppos. Jupiter/Saturn, all at early degrees.



Note to self and others: Do not underestimate Mars in Cancer.
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Jesus was born on April 17, 6 BC

He is an Aries.

Astrotheme is wrong.



Was always told that he was born in the spring at the end of March by my mother growing up.
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The bible said Jesus was born on the coldest and darkest night of the year. Which is why we celebrate Jesus's birthday on the 25th, despite not knowing the exact date....
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"Christianity" is not feminine.

"Christianity" was created by and dictated by MEN.

The actual teachings of Jesus however WERE feminine.

Mary Magdalene was his wife, and her input influenced him and his teachings greatly. The Gnostics recognized this and held Mary Magdalene in highest regard, second only to Jesus himself.

The apostles were pissed because Jesus confided in Mary more than them. So in typical testosterone-driven, ?_ber-masculine, mysoginistic fashion, they called her a whore and erased her from "Christianity".



This is so true. I read about it in the Weekly World News.




I figured it was the epilogue in the daVinci Code...

?? la Dan Brown.



That book has it's roots in scholarly research.

The fact is Jesus wasn't teaching "Christianity". He was simply teaching a branch of Judaism that wasn't mainstream at the time but still retained many aspects of it.

As a Jewish man, he would have been expected to take a wife. And there is plenty of scholarly and circumstantial evidence to suggest Mary Magdalene was erased from modern Christianity.

The Council of Nicea made damn sure those pesky women didn't get any crazy ideas....like thinking they are something more than a homemaking uterus with a head on it.
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Oh, I'm sure it does.

Dan Brown even says so on his website, promoting his work.


So it must be true.




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I'm basing my ideas on what I've learned from actual college level scholarly course work. Professors who were also ordained. Professors who've spent years studying Christianity.

Not a Sunday school teacher who manages a car wash during the week...





You can find a professor who believes anything. There are professors at major universities who are also Young Earth Creationists. This is obviously an extreme fringe view though. There are professors of religious studies in colleges, and then there are experts - actual scholars and historians who specialize in the study of early Christianity, and do real inter-disciplinary work in that field, publish in refereed journals, etc. Of the latter credible variety, even the secular/atheistic scholars, virtually none of them see good historical evidence for Jesus having been married to anyone, let alone Mary Magdalene.
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Rabbit - professors of what? And did they actually publish on the subject or just hold a personal opinion? A professor of something vague like "religious studies" or something irrelevant like Theology" or comparative religion, is very different than someone who specializes in the history of early Christianity. Not sure why it matters that they were ordained.

What's ultimately important in these discussions is evidence. If the kind of arguments you're making, are things that you overheard from them, they are simply not familiar with the socio-historical world of 2nd Temple Judaism, which means they're not competent in the relevant fields. Contrary to your claims:

1. we don't have any early Gnostic texts that actually say Mary of M was the wife of Jesus. If we do, please quote, or at least cite them. I've got the entire Nag Hammadi collection on my shelf.

2. the apostles never refer to Mary Magdalene as a whore. Rather than being misogynistic, and reflecting an attempt to silence the record of female involvement in the ministry of Jesus, the Synoptic Gospels record that Jesus' male followers abandon him at what they see as the culmination of history and the pivotal test of their loyalty to him - his death on the cross. But the women remain. In the Judaism of the time, it was scandalous for women to even travel with Jesus and his male followers, and there is no attempt to hide this. They also attribute the burial of Christ to his female followers, and, in Judaism, this is one of the most honorable and important things you can do for another human being, let alone the "Son of God". Further, Mary is the first witness to Jesus being risen from the dead and actually tells the *apostles* what happened. This *witness* theme was an issue around which much early church authority hinged, and female testimony was considered generally unreliable in that culture, yet Mary as first witness to the risen Christ, and several women as first witness to the empty tomb *still* survive in the tradition.

3. there is no evidence that the council of Nicaea erased *anything* from NT manuscripts with regards to women.

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4. there is nothing odd at all about Jesus being a Jew and not taking a wife, and this is such a weak argument. Eunuchs were present in first century Judaism and Jesus actually taught that some became eunuchs in light of "the kingdom of heaven". Further, one of the main sects of Judaism - the Essenes - according to Philo (our 2nd most important primary source on early Judaism), repudiated marriage. So quite opposite of what you say, some who consecrated themselves to God in that culture were actually expected to remain single.
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Rabbit: You're spending an awful amount of time trying to repudiate a suggested theory brought up simply as a thought exercise.

TLS: No actually I'm not. I type about 90 wpm, and, at least for me, everything I'm saying is pretty much common knowledge to anyone who has a basic understanding of early Christianity, so I'm really just shooting from the hip. Plus I enjoy argument and am extremely bored at work, so were it time-consuming, I wouldn't mind....

Rabbit: Never once did they say it was true. Only that it was possible.

TLS: Well you said a lot of things. You made many factual errors, several of which I mentioned, not just the marriage part. But here's how you put it: "Mary Magdalene was his wife, and her input influenced him and his teachings greatly. The Gnostics recognized this and held Mary Magdalene in highest regard, second only to Jesus himself." There is not even a *hint* in your original statements to the effect that this is just something you are saying as a mere possibility. To retreat to that is more than a tad dishonest. Just admit that you tried to pontificate on a topic you're not really familiar with and a POV you have no interest in actually defending. You already tried to rewrite ancient history; don't try to rewrite the extremely recent history of your own posts to save face.

Rabbit: So you can point to whatever texts you want (just as I can)

TLS: LOL, come on dude. You can't point to any texts. You can't point to one early Gnostic text that says Jesus was married to Mary M bc they don't exist. Please, for the love of the "magical boogeyman in the sky", stop the front.

Rabbit: if I learned anything from those classes, is that it's all a sham anyways.

TLS: You can't make sense of it, so now no one can know anything about anything. "Its all relative!".

The sad part is that what history shows is that the earliest Gnostic gospels (e.g. Gospel of Thomas) are actually much more misogynistic than any of the material that was deemed canonical. So you're seriously misconstruing things.



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One is acting like a Virgo whereas the other acted like a Sag.

You want to discuss details. He has given the bigger picture already. "Maybe and maybe not." + "manipulate the masses"

On the other Hand what you are saying is an interesting read.



The problem is a little deeper than that though - the "maybe and maybe not" is blatant back-peddling when confronted on the merit of his statements. Re-read the thread. There was not a hint of "theory", "thought experiment", or mere "possibility" until then - just baseless and dogmatic pronouncements of conspiracy. As far as manipulating the masses goes, given the amount of blunder and bluster in this thread so far, he needs to really apply that criticism to himself.

I can actually agree on the Sag comparison though - false pretense of knowledge, followed by shifting of the goal posts when called out....
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One is acting like a Virgo whereas the other acted like a Sag.
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... I can actually agree on the Sag comparison though - false pretense of knowledge, followed by shifting of the goal posts when called out....
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I know right.

Whenever me (Sag/Sun/Mercury) and my Virgo/Sun/Mercury sister discuss a little too long, I come to the point that she is talking Spanish while I talk in Chinese.

OP was for checking of an Astrology based claim. High jacking is no sin. Neither is quitting it.