@bricklemark
11 Years5,000+ Posts
For those idiots who mock vegans, take a look at the suffering !!!!
Plants are living things too ya know. Think of the suffering of plants !!!
No one mocks vegans. No has an issue with vegans or veganism.
Posted by Cvurko8
I'm still figuring out if you are trolling or if you have legit mental problems
Legit issues
not about veganism ...he defended a guy who killed his wife once saying she must have done something to deserve it ...
So if being vegan is only about not having animals suffer...why not continue eating meat that is sustainable raised and cruelty free??
People forget that these animals only exist for our consumption.
Posted by LittleFairy
No one mocks vegans. No has an issue with vegans or veganism.
I think they do, especially the ones that choose to be "right on" and shout about it
I admire them...it can't be easy
As I admire anyone that can give up booze, smokes and drugs, gluten, dairy, grains etc
Posted by LittleFairy
No one mocks vegans. No has an issue with vegans or veganism.I think they do, especially the ones that choose to be "right on" and shout about it
I admire them...it can't be easy
As I admire anyone that can give booze, smokes and drugs, gluten, dairy, grains etc
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I just admire nice people who make others feel good. People who make me feel good.
I don't mock vegans though ..that would silly. GO YOU SEXY VEGANS...
Posted by blvckphase
If Vegans were doing it for the animals and not the label, they wouldn't even be known as such to be mocked.. It's great to be a vegan, but the moment you start to advertise that, you are doing it for a very different reason.. It's a personal choice, not a statement to be made.
+1000
Posted by LittleFairy
No one mocks vegans. No has an issue with vegans or veganism.I think they do, especially the ones that choose to be "right on" and shout about it
I admire them...it can't be easy
As I admire anyone that can give booze, smokes and drugs, gluten, dairy, grains etc
I just admire nice people who make others feel good. People who make me feel good.
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Me too.......in an ideal world hey Miss Fairy 🙂
Posted by HankJWimbleton
What about Lab grown meat? (Cultured meat)No suffering = good for vegans.
we'll let the fiber structuring bacteria suffer instead.
Bacteria doesnt have a neural system. It doesnt suffer in the literal sense of the word
So...Peace?
Veganism is about suffering. That use of bacteria is hardly against the most popular veganism doctrine.
Something I am curious about.. Cause some vegans do it just for their health right? Or is it typically to avoid the suffering of animals? Even though they aren't consuming the products themselves, they are still supporting it. If you go to a restaurant and order a Vegan option, you are still supporting a restaurant that sells dead animals as options on their menu (unless it's a strictly vegan restaurant) .. Or even going to the Grocery store.. It's not like ya get up to the check out with a cart full of vegetables and the clerk goes "Hey guys, this person is only buying vegetables so we can only put the money they give us back into vegetables".. You know what I mean.. It's still supporting a chain.
Yeah i understand what you mean. Veganism at its core as a philosophy is essentially against animal exploitation and suffering.
You are right that indirectly you are supporting someone else who chooses to participate in the suffering of animals.
We live in a society tho, we are interconnected locally, nationally and globally. It is impossible to not support smb who is participating in the suffering of animals because meat and dairy products are extremely integrated in our lives.
Veganism is not about isolating yourself from those who dont share the philosophy and veganism doesn not inspire people to have a negative attitude towards other ppl. Veganism is about taking responsability for your own immediate actions and life style , being conscientious about your own footprint and making sure to you maximum realistic capacity that no animals suffer because you are alive.
Vegans who are driving cars kill insects and animals when driving i.e., no one has a 0 footprint, its realistically impossible. But why kill for nutrients when you can gain them from a source that doesnt suffer?
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Why not though?
Morally you might feel it's wrong. Personally I don't. My grandfather was a farmer. He didn't enjoy killing the animals he raised. But that's how he fed himself and the family. Buy that cow the most expensive type of food, sit down in from of them while they eat and enjoy it, then shoot it right in the head when it's finished the meal.
There is nothing wrong with That, and never will be.
Posted by HankJWimbleton
What about Lab grown meat? (Cultured meat)No suffering = good for vegans.
we'll let the fiber structuring bacteria suffer instead.
Bacteria doesnt have a neural system. It doesnt suffer in the literal sense of the word
So...Peace?
Veganism is about suffering. That use of bacteria is hardly against the most popular veganism doctrine.
Something I am curious about.. Cause some vegans do it just for their health right? Or is it typically to avoid the suffering of animals? Even though they aren't consuming the products themselves, they are still supporting it. If you go to a restaurant and order a Vegan option, you are still supporting a restaurant that sells dead animals as options on their menu (unless it's a strictly vegan restaurant) .. Or even going to the Grocery store.. It's not like ya get up to the check out with a cart full of vegetables and the clerk goes "Hey guys, this person is only buying vegetables so we can only put the money they give us back into vegetables".. You know what I mean.. It's still supporting a chain.
Yeah i understand what you mean. Veganism at its core as a philosophy is essentially against animal exploitation and suffering.
You are right that indirectly you are supporting someone else who chooses to participate in the suffering of animals.
We live in a society tho, we are interconnected locally, nationally and globally. It is impossible to not support smb who is participating in the suffering of animals because meat and dairy products are extremely integrated in our lives.
Veganism is not about isolating yourself from those who dont share the philosophy and veganism doesn not inspire people to have a negative attitude towards other ppl. Veganism is about taking responsability for your own immediate actions and life style , being conscientious about your own footprint and making sure to you maximum realistic capacity that no animals suffer because you are alive.
Vegans who are driving cars kill insects and animals when driving i.e., no one has a 0 footprint, its realistically impossible. But why kill for nutrients when you can gain them from a source that doesnt suffer?
Why not though?
Morally you might feel it's wrong. Personally I don't. My grandfather was a farmer. He didn't enjoy killing the animals he raised. But that's how he fed himself and the family. Buy that cow the most expensive type of food, sit down in from of them while they eat and enjoy it, then shoot it right in the head when it's finished the meal.
There is nothing wrong with That, and never will be.
Well, i cant and dont want to make you change your moral values and how you define whats wrong and right.
For some, killing people is okay too tho, but you probably wont be justifying that the same way. For nazis it was perfectly normal to make soaps out of non-Aryans.
Guess you believe in souls, right? Do you believe only humans have souls?
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Nope. I believe all nature has a soul. Perhaps the earth itself has its own soul. I love nature much more then human life, so don't get me confused. It's the exact same reason I pray the animals soul to carry on to a better life, and thank nature for its blessing every time I kill an animal I want to eat.
Posted by blvckphase
If Vegans were doing it for the animals and not the label, they wouldn't even be known as such to be mocked.. It's great to be a vegan, but the moment you start to advertise that, you are doing it for a very different reason.. It's a personal choice, not a statement to be made.
exactly. I hate bringing it up
Posted by HankJWimbleton
What about Lab grown meat? (Cultured meat)No suffering = good for vegans.
we'll let the fiber structuring bacteria suffer instead.
Bacteria doesnt have a neural system. It doesnt suffer in the literal sense of the word
So...Peace?
Veganism is about suffering. That use of bacteria is hardly against the most popular veganism doctrine.
Something I am curious about.. Cause some vegans do it just for their health right? Or is it typically to avoid the suffering of animals? Even though they aren't consuming the products themselves, they are still supporting it. If you go to a restaurant and order a Vegan option, you are still supporting a restaurant that sells dead animals as options on their menu (unless it's a strictly vegan restaurant) .. Or even going to the Grocery store.. It's not like ya get up to the check out with a cart full of vegetables and the clerk goes "Hey guys, this person is only buying vegetables so we can only put the money they give us back into vegetables".. You know what I mean.. It's still supporting a chain.
Yeah i understand what you mean. Veganism at its core as a philosophy is essentially against animal exploitation and suffering.
You are right that indirectly you are supporting someone else who chooses to participate in the suffering of animals.
We live in a society tho, we are interconnected locally, nationally and globally. It is impossible to not support smb who is participating in the suffering of animals because meat and dairy products are extremely integrated in our lives.
Veganism is not about isolating yourself from those who dont share the philosophy and veganism doesn not inspire people to have a negative attitude towards other ppl. Veganism is about taking responsability for your own immediate actions and life style , being conscientious about your own footprint and making sure to you maximum realistic capacity that no animals suffer because you are alive.
Vegans who are driving cars kill insects and animals when driving i.e., no one has a 0 footprint, its realistically impossible. But why kill for nutrients when you can gain them from a source that doesnt suffer?
Why not though?
Morally you might feel it's wrong. Personally I don't. My grandfather was a farmer. He didn't enjoy killing the animals he raised. But that's how he fed himself and the family. Buy that cow the most expensive type of food, sit down in from of them while they eat and enjoy it, then shoot it right in the head when it's finished the meal.
There is nothing wrong with That, and never will be.
Well, i cant and dont want to make you change your moral values and how you define whats wrong and right.
For some, killing people is okay too tho, but you probably wont be justifying that the same way. For nazis it was perfectly normal to make soaps out of non-Aryans.
Guess you believe in souls, right? Do you believe only humans have souls?
Nope. I believe all nature has a soul. Perhaps the earth itself has its own soul. I love nature much more then human life, so don't get me confused. It's the exact same reason I pray the animals soul to carry on to a better life, and thank nature for its blessing every time I kill an animal I want to eat.
I think we should just settle with the more ethical option of Mark Post's new innovation for our future, beef from the lab, still beefy and tasty minus the suffering.
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I don't enjoy the idea of animals suffering for food. I've seen tons of videos of farm animals getting brutally slaughtered. Cows and chickens coming in upside down getting their necks slit. Not dying instantly but bleeding out slowly. I've seen it all. It's terrible I agree.
My problem is these people have no realistic solution. In their wrapped minds the only solution is trying to force me to change my life style s and force their shitty cult like opinions down my throat.
How about you go to their factories and burn them down? Actually do something about it rather then trying to get me to change. It's never going to happen. Ever. Not just me but the majority too. Like it was mentioned it's permanitly woven into our lives, and will never change. Get use to it or stfu already.
I'm not directing that to you personally, just this topic in general. Nothing pisses me off more then humans bitching about their problems without any realistic souiltion whatsoever.
So now i will end this thread for good by spelling out exactly why your ideas are not realistic. I don't disagree with your ideas or love for animals, I disagree with the way you go about it.
I'm sure people already mentioned this.
The reason it will never happen is because the world mostly consists of the poor and middle class. You think a poor family gives a shit about the cow that died for their dollar menu? Here is a perfect description of someone from the middle class "Oh wow, I can pick 5 different types of meat for 20 $ — That's enough to feed my family for the whole week! Milk, bread and lunch meat is on sale too!"
Everyone knows that health food is the most expensive. Unless you want to force your family to eat literal shit you have no choice but to buy the cheaper foods. Poor people will always eat whatever they can get, and the middle class will always eat whatever is the better deal.
So why don't you fix world hunger first, then fuck with the animals? That is of there are even animals left by then. So unless you richy aminal and health lovers want to start sending your money away for your cause stfu.
Would you like to send me the money to conform to your life style s and opinions? Just pm me and I'll give you my PayPal for the first payment.
I just want to point out first of all I care very much about animals. And although I am a hypocrite by eating meat. I eat it because I like to think that it comes from a store and block out that it was once a living creature.... But to add my 2c worth The human body is built to digest meat. Humans are carnivores.. We are not meant to live a life of a herbivor. It's about sustainability and moderation.
Posted by HankJWimbleton
I don't think Michael Schumacher (vegetable) ever wanted to be eaten.
lol oh that's underrated
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It's NOT ABOUT US VEGANS......IT'S ABOUT YOUR GUILT!!!!
It's between you and the animals, it has NOTHING to do with us!!! You stupid guilty morons....