Indicators of fame in a natal chart

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planets in the 12th.
12th house = Hidden, right?!
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Yes, but it is to do with progressions. The people born with Sun in the 12th house live in the shadow, and when their Sun progresses into the 1st house, for them it's like stepping out in the open.

From what I remember Blair, H.Clinton, G.Bush, Gandhi and I think Stalin had the 12th house Sun, so there you go.

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Actually I'm only saying something I've read somewhere on the web some time ago. It was not my own idea.

And when I checked men and women with the most clicks in October, I found 20% Sun in 12th but also 25% empty 12th houses. Most of the empty 12ths in the men's list. I don't know if this is a proof or anti proof. Adding to it that nobody knows if they have the right birth time info.
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http://www.astrotheme.com/celebrities_horoscopes_clicked_in_real_time.php

most clicked on in October:

1. Beyoncé Knowles J Sat Merc in 12

2. Rihanna Moon, Nn and V in 12

3. Taylor Swift Sun and U in 12

4. Kim Kardashian Mars and U in 12

5. Angelina Jolie Satrun in 12

6. Hillary Clinton Sun V Merc in 12

7. Marilyn Monroe Plut Nn Lil in 12

8. Lady Gaga empty 12

9. Selena Gomez Sun in 12

10. Nolwenn Leroy Lil in 12

1. Jesus Christ (out of competition)

2. Donald Trump Mars Plu in 12

3. Justin Bieber J Pl Nn in 12

4. Barack Obama Sat J in 12

5. Brad Pitt Lil in 12

6. François Hollande empty 12

7. Leonardo DiCaprio empty 12

8. Kanye West Sun in 12

9. Vladimir Putin Sat Nept Merc in 12

10. Bill Clinton empty 12

11. Michael Jackson empty 12 (do they have the right birth info? in all 20 cases?)

4/20 = 20% Sun in 12, 5/20 = 25% empty 12
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planets in the 12th.
12th house = Hidden, right?!
Yes, but it is to do with progressions. The people born with Sun in the 12th house live in the shadow, and when their Sun progresses into the 1st house, for them it's like stepping out in the open.

From what I remember Blair, H.Clinton, G.Bush, Gandhi and I think Stalin had the 12th house Sun, so there you go.



based on astrotheme:

Taylor Swift Sun and U in 12

Hillary Clinton Sun V Merc in 12

Selena Gomez Sun in 12

Kanye West Sun in 12

but I found also empty 12th houses for celebrities with most clicks.

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Astrology is complex 🙂 There are other significators for the fame, like (it has been mentioned above I think) people with prominent Leo (for them the stage comes naturally), especially the prominent Regulus (a fixed star in Leo constellation). In general, people with prominent fixed stars (especially the main fixed stars, the four of them), become famous (for good or bad, whether they want it or not), cause those stars hold much more potent energy, literally and figuratively speaking, and bring the life of the person in the light, push them to become known, again, could be for good or bad reasons.

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planets in the 12th.
12th house = Hidden, right?!
Yes, but it is to do with progressions. The people born with Sun in the 12th house live in the shadow, and when their Sun progresses into the 1st house, for them it's like stepping out in the open.

From what I remember Blair, H.Clinton, G.Bush, Gandhi and I think Stalin had the 12th house Sun, so there you go.



based on astrotheme:

Taylor Swift Sun and U in 12

Hillary Clinton Sun V Merc in 12

Selena Gomez Sun in 12

Kanye West Sun in 12

but I found also empty 12th houses for celebrities with most clicks.


Astrology is complex 🙂 There are other significators for the fame, like (it has been mentioned above I think) people with prominent Leo (for them the stage comes naturally), especially the prominent Regulus (a fixed star in Leo constellation). In general, people with prominent fixed stars (especially the main fixed stars, the four of them), become famous (for good or bad, whether they want it or not), cause those stars hold much more potent energy, literally and figuratively speaking, and bring the life of the person in the light, push them to become known, again, could be for good or bad reasons.

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My Regulus sextile mars and trine Mercury

what do you think about?
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planets in the 12th.
12th house = Hidden, right?!
Yes, but it is to do with progressions. The people born with Sun in the 12th house live in the shadow, and when their Sun progresses into the 1st house, for them it's like stepping out in the open.

From what I remember Blair, H.Clinton, G.Bush, Gandhi and I think Stalin had the 12th house Sun, so there you go.



based on astrotheme:

Taylor Swift Sun and U in 12

Hillary Clinton Sun V Merc in 12

Selena Gomez Sun in 12

Kanye West Sun in 12

but I found also empty 12th houses for celebrities with most clicks.


Astrology is complex 🙂 There are other significators for the fame, like (it has been mentioned above I think) people with prominent Leo (for them the stage comes naturally), especially the prominent Regulus (a fixed star in Leo constellation). In general, people with prominent fixed stars (especially the main fixed stars, the four of them), become famous (for good or bad, whether they want it or not), cause those stars hold much more potent energy, literally and figuratively speaking, and bring the life of the person in the light, push them to become known, again, could be for good or bad reasons.


My Regulus sextile mars and trine Mercury

what do you think about?
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Everybody has Regulus in their chart. It matters only if you have a planet conjunct Regulus, or if Regulus falls on important points such as asc, desc, mc and ic. Then your Mars and Mercury could produce some strong energy together. So, have you got anything conjunct 29 degrees Leo (approx.)?
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planets in the 12th.
12th house = Hidden, right?!
Yes, but it is to do with progressions. The people born with Sun in the 12th house live in the shadow, and when their Sun progresses into the 1st house, for them it's like stepping out in the open.

From what I remember Blair, H.Clinton, G.Bush, Gandhi and I think Stalin had the 12th house Sun, so there you go.



based on astrotheme:

Taylor Swift Sun and U in 12

Hillary Clinton Sun V Merc in 12

Selena Gomez Sun in 12

Kanye West Sun in 12

but I found also empty 12th houses for celebrities with most clicks.


Astrology is complex 🙂 There are other significators for the fame, like (it has been mentioned above I think) people with prominent Leo (for them the stage comes naturally), especially the prominent Regulus (a fixed star in Leo constellation). In general, people with prominent fixed stars (especially the main fixed stars, the four of them), become famous (for good or bad, whether they want it or not), cause those stars hold much more potent energy, literally and figuratively speaking, and bring the life of the person in the light, push them to become known, again, could be for good or bad reasons.


My Regulus sextile mars and trine Mercury

what do you think about?
Everybody has Regulus in their chart. It matters only if you have a planet conjunct Regulus, or if Regulus falls on important points such as asc, desc, mc and ic. Then your Mars and Mercury could produce some strong energy together. So, have you got anything conjunct 29 degrees Leo (approx.)?

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Its close my IC and I have Jupiter in Leo 3 degrees

Sun trine Jupiter

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planets in the 12th.
12th house = Hidden, right?!
Yes, but it is to do with progressions. The people born with Sun in the 12th house live in the shadow, and when their Sun progresses into the 1st house, for them it's like stepping out in the open.

From what I remember Blair, H.Clinton, G.Bush, Gandhi and I think Stalin had the 12th house Sun, so there you go.



based on astrotheme:

Taylor Swift Sun and U in 12

Hillary Clinton Sun V Merc in 12

Selena Gomez Sun in 12

Kanye West Sun in 12

but I found also empty 12th houses for celebrities with most clicks.


Astrology is complex 🙂 There are other significators for the fame, like (it has been mentioned above I think) people with prominent Leo (for them the stage comes naturally), especially the prominent Regulus (a fixed star in Leo constellation). In general, people with prominent fixed stars (especially the main fixed stars, the four of them), become famous (for good or bad, whether they want it or not), cause those stars hold much more potent energy, literally and figuratively speaking, and bring the life of the person in the light, push them to become known, again, could be for good or bad reasons.


My Regulus sextile mars and trine Mercury

what do you think about?
Everybody has Regulus in their chart. It matters only if you have a planet conjunct Regulus, or if Regulus falls on important points such as asc, desc, mc and ic. Then your Mars and Mercury could produce some strong energy together. So, have you got anything conjunct 29 degrees Leo (approx.)?


Its close my IC and I have Jupiter in Leo 3 degrees

Sun trine Jupiter

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Since Regulus conjunct Mc stands for honor, good fortune, military success, etc..sitting on the opposite side in your horoscope (in the most hidden part of the wheel), it could mean that you, inside, have a deep wish for all that, you strive for being acknowledged and known. So you could, inside you, have stronger wish, than others, to be of a noble existence and in general, relevant in people's lives.

Try to find some material on that, I'm not good at explanations, I am more of a hampster, collect informations, then keep them to release them when needed.

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I have my Moon in Leo at 29 degrees. I'm not famous, nor do I want to be. However, I do have a charismatic personality.
The star has a potent energy, so I don't doubt that the person who has Moon there, radiates charisma. It is a strong point in horoscope. Some known astrologers go that far to say that if you have a personal planet on 4 main fixed stars, it cancels significantly the rest of the horoscope, and the planet in question overtakes the leadership, presenting the main force in the horoscope. But, as I said, astrology is complex, and all things should be taken in consideration when we analyze a horoscope of a person, event, etc.

Regarding fame, it is a wide concept, so a person could be famous worldwide, or famous in their circle (for certain good or bad traits), so it is not that only a celebrity fame is a fame, it is more to do with the fact that the person stands out in a crowd for certain energy he or she emits.
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planets in the 12th.
12th house = Hidden, right?!
Yes, but it is to do with progressions. The people born with Sun in the 12th house live in the shadow, and when their Sun progresses into the 1st house, for them it's like stepping out in the open.

From what I remember Blair, H.Clinton, G.Bush, Gandhi and I think Stalin had the 12th house Sun, so there you go.



based on astrotheme:

Taylor Swift Sun and U in 12

Hillary Clinton Sun V Merc in 12

Selena Gomez Sun in 12

Kanye West Sun in 12

but I found also empty 12th houses for celebrities with most clicks.


Astrology is complex 🙂 There are other significators for the fame, like (it has been mentioned above I think) people with prominent Leo (for them the stage comes naturally), especially the prominent Regulus (a fixed star in Leo constellation). In general, people with prominent fixed stars (especially the main fixed stars, the four of them), become famous (for good or bad, whether they want it or not), cause those stars hold much more potent energy, literally and figuratively speaking, and bring the life of the person in the light, push them to become known, again, could be for good or bad reasons.


Which 4 stars?
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4 Royal stars. Regulus (29 degrees Leo), Fomalhaut (4 degrees Pisces), Aldebaran (9 degrees Gemini) and Antares (9 degrees Sagittarius).



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I have my Moon in Leo at 29 degrees. I'm not famous, nor do I want to be. However, I do have a charismatic personality.
The star has a potent energy, so I don't doubt that the person who has Moon there, radiates charisma. It is a strong point in horoscope. Some known astrologers go that far to say that if you have a personal planet on 4 main fixed stars, it cancels significantly the rest of the horoscope, and the planet in question overtakes the leadership, presenting the main force in the horoscope. But, as I said, astrology is complex, and all things should be taken in consideration when we analyze a horoscope of a person, event, etc.

Regarding fame, it is a wide concept, so a person could be famous worldwide, or famous in their circle (for certain good or bad traits), so it is not that only a celebrity fame is a fame, it is more to do with the fact that the person stands out in a crowd for certain energy he or she emits.
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Hmm you make a good point. I will investigate this further
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how is the fame going?
Haven't reached your name yet. You'll have to wait...too many autographs to sign.


i can see you being big in japan

"The feral one with green hair"
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Pretty sure the city of Tokyo would disagree as they are very hostile to green feral things.
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Angular houses = 1st, 4th, 7th, and 10th.
@damnata

how is the fame going?
Haven't reached your name yet. You'll have to wait...too many autographs to sign.


i can see you being big in japan

"The feral one with green hair"
Pretty sure the city of Tokyo would disagree as they are very hostile to green feral things.
everyrhing has a cult following in tokyo

you might even be a recording star and they'd buy you recording of you just rolling uour R's

😆
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I meant...

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You still have no book for me to narrate, do you?