As the moon represents the public, I was thinking of hard aspects between the Moon and the Ascendant or the Midheaven...
Is there an aspect that indicates a person who is unpopular or hated for some reason?
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
Posted by ShadowcatBut Pluto in the 1st provide a magnetic aura, often people with this placements have haters and lovers too, they provoke extreme emotions on people.Posted by raad182I'd argue that hard moon aspects between asc, and mc tend to do well popularity wise. They just feel misunderstood, and often are. I think pluto in the first house/rising/mc would do that because of the arbitrary hatred thing
As the moon represents the public, I was thinking of hard aspects between the Moon and the Ascendant or the Midheaven...click to expand
Maybe hard aspects of Mars to the MC or ASC, as Mars represents violence.
Posted by PanelaPosted by DwellingOnMoveand I got that too. what does it means?
maybe Venus square Asc.
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1) do research by yourself!
2) Venus is the way you connect with the others, show affection or the willingness for sharing stuff with them. Ascendant is how people see you. square means these two are in conflict. or not supporting each other. so people don't get you. whenever you are ready for like, you face dislike. theoretically.
3) Internet came and revealed how much unnecessary hate exists among us. Nowadays everybody is hated, misunderstood, underrated or critisized. #Side_Effect_Of_More_Individuality_And_More_Media_Access
nooooo I think it's more of what you yourself, (general - you) have done to the public or what people see of you...
if you are a homewrecker, and it's in the eyes of the people, you will be hated.
i'll give an example....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3034167/Camilla-shouldn-t-Queen-say-public-four-ten-say-Charles-step-aside-let-William-king.html
and for men, they aren't intensely hated if they are homewrecking, because they will be called PLAYERS...
but they will be hated if they do criminal activities, such as human trafficking, and burglary, stealing, and thieving, lying and embelzzling money, and most of all, pedophile, which is the most hated. Even in prison, the criminal men there will destroy you.
in the comments of Lady Duchess Camilla.....commenters say stuff like,
QUOTE:
" keep trying to like Camilla, but I can not. I just see her as a scheming woman who set out to destroy lives for her own gain. Her first Husband, her Children, her present Husband, his dead first wife, and they're kids. Also the Thrown, and the country at large where put at some risk. To think that one day she could well be on stamps and official portraits in 16 Nations scares me. Diana was no saint but at least she did not start this mess. The House of Windsor would do well to see you go away
if you are a homewrecker, and it's in the eyes of the people, you will be hated.
i'll give an example....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3034167/Camilla-shouldn-t-Queen-say-public-four-ten-say-Charles-step-aside-let-William-king.html
and for men, they aren't intensely hated if they are homewrecking, because they will be called PLAYERS...
but they will be hated if they do criminal activities, such as human trafficking, and burglary, stealing, and thieving, lying and embelzzling money, and most of all, pedophile, which is the most hated. Even in prison, the criminal men there will destroy you.
in the comments of Lady Duchess Camilla.....commenters say stuff like,
QUOTE:
" keep trying to like Camilla, but I can not. I just see her as a scheming woman who set out to destroy lives for her own gain. Her first Husband, her Children, her present Husband, his dead first wife, and they're kids. Also the Thrown, and the country at large where put at some risk. To think that one day she could well be on stamps and official portraits in 16 Nations scares me. Diana was no saint but at least she did not start this mess. The House of Windsor would do well to see you go away
Posted by raad182Posted by ShadowcatBut Pluto in the 1st provide a magnetic aura, often people with this placements have haters and lovers too, they provoke extreme emotions on people.Posted by raad182I'd argue that hard moon aspects between asc, and mc tend to do well popularity wise. They just feel misunderstood, and often are. I think pluto in the first house/rising/mc would do that because of the arbitrary hatred thing
As the moon represents the public, I was thinking of hard aspects between the Moon and the Ascendant or the Midheaven...
Maybe hard aspects of Mars to the MC or ASC, as Mars represents violence.click to expand
I think in case of squares, when Venus, Mars or Pluto as you said are on one end, then the person him/herself is not misinterpreting. If Moon or Chiron is concerned, so most part of the hate is own feeling or projection.
Just a theory.
if you do bad to others or do things in the eyes of the public that hate!!! (ie for women, it's homewreckers and sluts, ect, and your actions will show the PUBLIC will hate you severely.
Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.click to expand
Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
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Posted by DwellingOnMoveDuchess Camilla has 11th house Mars in Gemini, and Uranus Gemini.Posted by lisabethur8
if you do bad to others or do things in the eyes of the public that hate!!! and your actions will show the PUBLIC will hate you severely.
Why did I get a vibe that very young innocent people are asking in this thread? They get hated by the group for no reason.
Ah, yeah, OP it can also be related to the 11th house. Or its ruler.
Maybe you are just too sensitive and have Chiron in the 3rd too. additionally.click to expand
Angelina Jolie is 11th house sun, but she's not really hated, infact has been loved by the people for her humanitarian efforts.
Posted by lisabethur8because gemini sun can be caustic, not all are of course, but gemini asc are rarely caustic.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
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basically if you do a lot for the people out there, and you're bloody rich, you will be loved.
because you are sacrificing your own gain, money, efforts for the good of the people. to them, they see that as an ACT of kindness and goodness. that you are even trying to give to others instead of hoarding and being greedy,
which is why Angelina Jolie was given humanitarian awards, for doing her part, and even Princess Diana was loved because she does humanitarian efforts. The people see that and their heart melts with softness, that even the wealthy CARE about them....it brings tears and joy in their hearts.
because you are sacrificing your own gain, money, efforts for the good of the people. to them, they see that as an ACT of kindness and goodness. that you are even trying to give to others instead of hoarding and being greedy,
which is why Angelina Jolie was given humanitarian awards, for doing her part, and even Princess Diana was loved because she does humanitarian efforts. The people see that and their heart melts with softness, that even the wealthy CARE about them....it brings tears and joy in their hearts.
Posted by LostPiscesPosted by lisabethur8because gemini sun can be caustic, not all are of course, but gemini asc are rarely caustic.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
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I don't see that with Gemini sun.
I see that more with Scorpio mercury. caustic and biting. harsh. can be cruel.
and Aries mercury, seething with hidden arrogance.
Posted by lisabethur8she's right. or he.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
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Posted by Panelamaybe with cancer mercury.Posted by lisabethur8she's right. or he.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
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but I've met some Gemini suns and they are nice people.
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by LostPiscesPosted by lisabethur8because gemini sun can be caustic, not all are of course, but gemini asc are rarely caustic.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
I don't see that with Gemini sun.
I see that more with Scorpio mercury. caustic and biting. harsh. can be cruel.
and Aries mercury, seething with hidden arrogance.
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Women or men?
My worst CEO (being caustic and all) had gemini sun
I have aries mercury 😛
Posted by DwellingOnMoveIm not saying that Im hated or unpopular, I was just curious about this.Posted by lisabethur8
if you do bad to others or do things in the eyes of the public that hate!!! and your actions will show the PUBLIC will hate you severely.
Why did I get a vibe that very young innocent people are asking in this thread? They get hated by the group for no reason.
Ah, yeah, OP it can also be related to the 11th house. Or its ruler.
Maybe you are just too sensitive and have Chiron in the 3rd too. additionally.click to expand
And Why the 11th house? If we are talking about houses, it should be the 10th or the 1st as both of them are related with our image and how we interact with the society.
I dislike gemini suns because they always appear to be fake, superficial, two-faced and etc.
With a Gemini ASC I can relate to this traits because I appear to be like that for some people until they get to know me.
I have an Aries Mercury
With a Gemini ASC I can relate to this traits because I appear to be like that for some people until they get to know me.
I have an Aries Mercury
Posted by LostPiscesohhhhhh some geminis can have aries mercury.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by LostPiscesPosted by lisabethur8because gemini sun can be caustic, not all are of course, but gemini asc are rarely caustic.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
I don't see that with Gemini sun.
I see that more with Scorpio mercury. caustic and biting. harsh. can be cruel.
and Aries mercury, seething with hidden arrogance.
Women or men?
My worst CEO (being caustic and all) had gemini sun
I have aries mercury 😛
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Posted by DwellingOnMovethat's more publicity stunts. People will FORGIVE you when you make an EFFORT...which she did.Posted by lisabethur8
basically if you do a lot for the people out there, and you're bloody rich, you will be loved.
because you are sacrificing your own gain, money, efforts for the good of the people. to them, they see that as an ACT of kindness and goodness. that you are even trying to give to others instead of hoarding and being greedy,
which is why Angelina Jolie was given humanitarian awards, for doing her part, and even Princess Diana was loved because she does humanitarian efforts. The people see that and their heart melts with softness, that even the wealthy CARE about them....it brings tears and joy in their hearts.
ok, let's mix this with your other post. so Angelina Jolie has been known as homewrecker among certain group of people. and they hated her.
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she went out into the world and showed how giving she is....for that she has been forgiven a lot.
Camilla hasn't done anything close to what Princess Diana has done.
I think some people just don't have it in them.
now if Camilla went and did some humanitarian efforts, the British people will SEE her ACTIONS....and may even forgive her...maybe...
but I don't hear any news of her traveling the world and visiting the poor and giving.
but I don't hear any news of her traveling the world and visiting the poor and giving.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveBut its normal for everyone. What I meant in the question is someone who is hated by almost everyone...Like Hitler for example.Posted by raad182Posted by DwellingOnMoveIm not saying that Im hated or unpopular, I was just curious about this.Posted by lisabethur8
if you do bad to others or do things in the eyes of the public that hate!!! and your actions will show the PUBLIC will hate you severely.
Why did I get a vibe that very young innocent people are asking in this thread? They get hated by the group for no reason.
Ah, yeah, OP it can also be related to the 11th house. Or its ruler.
Maybe you are just too sensitive and have Chiron in the 3rd too. additionally.
And Why the 11th house? If we are talking about houses, it should be the 10th or the 1st as both of them are related with our image and how we interact with the society.
Na, I took the 11th house for the ability or willingness to be part of a group or community.
like if the rest of the classe builds a few groups and you fit in none.click to expand
Everyone is hated at some point in a group
Posted by lisabethur8Yes you are right, maybe he has it and thats why I clashed with him alot, boiling inside.Posted by LostPiscesohhhhhh some geminis can have aries mercury.Posted by lisabethur8Posted by LostPiscesPosted by lisabethur8because gemini sun can be caustic, not all are of course, but gemini asc are rarely caustic.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
I don't see that with Gemini sun.
I see that more with Scorpio mercury. caustic and biting. harsh. can be cruel.
and Aries mercury, seething with hidden arrogance.
Women or men?
My worst CEO (being caustic and all) had gemini sun
I have aries mercury 😛
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Posted by raad182Posted by DwellingOnMoveBut its normal for everyone. What I meant in the question is someone who is hated by almost everyone...Like Hitler for example.Posted by raad182Posted by DwellingOnMoveIm not saying that Im hated or unpopular, I was just curious about this.Posted by lisabethur8
if you do bad to others or do things in the eyes of the public that hate!!! and your actions will show the PUBLIC will hate you severely.
Why did I get a vibe that very young innocent people are asking in this thread? They get hated by the group for no reason.
Ah, yeah, OP it can also be related to the 11th house. Or its ruler.
Maybe you are just too sensitive and have Chiron in the 3rd too. additionally.
And Why the 11th house? If we are talking about houses, it should be the 10th or the 1st as both of them are related with our image and how we interact with the society.
Na, I took the 11th house for the ability or willingness to be part of a group or community.
like if the rest of the classe builds a few groups and you fit in none.
Everyone is hated at some point in a groupclick to expand
Hitler was loved by his people, blinded them because he was SALVATION for them.
he brought his people back from the depths of hell and depression.....and starvation.
but he hated the rest of the world. except for the trinity thing (Japan, Italy, Germany)
His hatred was "selective" because he knew that the rest of the world wouldn't go for his goals, desires.
the rest of the world's leaders wouldn't go for unhumanitarian efforts that he was doing. if anything he was against human rights.
Posted by DwellingOnMoveLOL, again its not about me being hated, its just curiosity.Posted by raad182Posted by DwellingOnMoveBut its normal for everyone. What I meant in the question is someone who is hated by almost everyone...Like Hitler for example.Posted by raad182Posted by DwellingOnMoveIm not saying that Im hated or unpopular, I was just curious about this.Posted by lisabethur8
if you do bad to others or do things in the eyes of the public that hate!!! and your actions will show the PUBLIC will hate you severely.
Why did I get a vibe that very young innocent people are asking in this thread? They get hated by the group for no reason.
Ah, yeah, OP it can also be related to the 11th house. Or its ruler.
Maybe you are just too sensitive and have Chiron in the 3rd too. additionally.
And Why the 11th house? If we are talking about houses, it should be the 10th or the 1st as both of them are related with our image and how we interact with the society.
Na, I took the 11th house for the ability or willingness to be part of a group or community.
like if the rest of the classe builds a few groups and you fit in none.
Everyone is hated at some point in a group
very bad questioning. my opinion.
criminals are hated by those who recognize their crime.
there are still people who do not hate him. they meet in small hidden groups and praise him.
the OP is for me actually only in the school and/or coledge years interesting. that episode of life when we are separating gradually from our families. and it is harder for us to deal with hate or ignorance.
later in life we are masters and we know by instinct/experience/logic that not everybody is gonna like me. ok us.click to expand
Of course there isn't someone out there who is hated by EVERYBODY but there are people who are hated or unpopular by most of the people they know. Hitler wasn't hated by everybody but for most of the people in the world. Im not talking about global scale but could be local.
I know a few people who get free hate everywhere they go but I don't know their natal charts.
Moon represents the public?? ?
Posted by lisabethur8yes I have cancer mercury and as nice as I am, I can still be caustic. some people IMO be asking for it.Posted by Panelamaybe with cancer mercury.Posted by lisabethur8she's right. or he.Posted by LostPisceswhy do you say that? 😕Posted by raad182Gemini asc is fine, sun is far worse.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.
but I've met some Gemini suns and they are nice people.click to expand
"I know a few people who get free hate everywhere they go but I don't know their natal charts."
nah, they go to the wrong places.
nah, they go to the wrong places.
Posted by raad182yeah I know what you mean. I hate and love my ascendant. actually the only hate thing about my asc is that it does exactly what the description say it does, make me weak. and by weak I mean its hard for me to come to a decision without some kind of help. and I think that kinda make me a fence sitter. in fact, let's just say my whole entire chart and aspects are hated. bump it.Posted by Panelalol, yeah It is IMO too
good question. only wish I had a good answer. all I know is Gemini is the most hated sign wise.
I have a Gemini ASC and I hate it, on the good side it makes me a natural actor.click to expand
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