Cancer Dude - Libra Girl

1st why in the world is there so much Cancer agony on this site?

2nd I know this Libra girl, she is wonderful, hot, smart, funny, bad ass when she wants to be, great to be around.

She liked me first, but I did not want to leave my shell so I stayed back and did not show interest.

Eventually she grew on me so I talked to her more but then she backed away. I thought perhaps I should of came out of my shell faster and let her know. So that thought weighed on my mind.

eventually I told her that I liked her (one step to the left 3 steps to the right and a huge leap foward typical Cancer style )

She said that she could not be in a relationship becuase she still has feelings for a previous dude, telling me that I needed someone who could be devoted to me (this is true but damn).


Cancer - Sun
Cancer - Acendent
Leo - Moon

okay....so is there a question here?..... or was this just for theraputic reasons?

dude...shes a libra for one...they never like just one person....it has something to do with who is in front of them at the time.lol air signs love to have lots of friends andthey love to flirt with the opposite sex alot. she was unhappy that u werent paying her attention so she put effort into it....now she knows u like her.......game over u lose.

ummm....Paul hasn't had the best experience with libras...neither have I for that matter.

But at any rate, you can read just about anywhere on these boards "what is meant to be will be"

I've had quite a few.....

I agree with you ms pisces - I was going to keep my opinion on libra behavior to myself.... but .......

oh there isn't much I consider personal - you'd be hard pressed to ask a question I wouldn't answer.

I think they lie only when they have a reason to... despite other behaviors if they have no real reason to lie to you they leave that one alone.

But my libra ex really made libras look bad...totally scared me away from them for years... I actually had to get a restraining order against him... and yes he was a serious liar.

On the other hand though my little sister is a libra and I love her - of course I'm a bit biased on that one... but I do have a libra male friend who is really sweet....seems pretty stable.

Game is truly over.

Time for you to move on.

"She said that she could not be in a relationship becuase she still has feelings for a previous dude, telling me that I needed someone who could be devoted to me (this is true but damn)."

One more thing, num-nut. She's lying.

No one has devotion for someone right off the bat.

*numb*

I have to disagree with you there....don't know THIS girl and she could be lying .... but you're very wrong to automatically assume that that is a lie.

I would just read the situation that she used a standard line ("not over my ex") to ward him off.

Have you known anybody who was devoted to someone they just met off the bat?

Then again, maybe she said that because our friend Nicholas here came on too strong....

Hey SS, Pats got two more games to go...

Maybe I'm not understanding who you are saying she is devoted to? why would her not being over her ex be a lie?

"why would her not being over her ex be a lie?"

I'm gonna give Nick some credit here and say that he didn't make up the fact that she was flirting with him - that she was at one point interested.

That he wasn't delusional.

I've seen too many girls go out and try to find someone new to help them "get over" their guy - my scorp best friend is a perfect example of how that can go horribly wrong. She did that to get over her sag and the guy she dated fell in love with her and she decided to give it another go with the sag....and worse yet, the new guy just had a heart attack [no idea what happened] and she was with him about as long as the sag, and in fact her and the sag were never even exclusive. [at that time]
Again, I don't know anything about this particular girl, but it is not necessarily a lie....

"I'm gonna give Nick some credit here and say that he didn't make up the fact that she was flirting with him - that she was at one point interested.

That he wasn't delusional"

okay.....and all that means is he wanted more and she wasn't ready for it

le whaaa?

oh I have no idea how he is - but no the heart attack was not a result of her breaking up with him, but she broke up with him just a couple days later....not that she didn't feel bad about it, it just happened to coincide with the sag wanting to get back together..... and that's the point I'm trying to make - this was a really horrible exapmle of trying to force oneself to get over someone and really hurting someone else in the process.....

"I've seen too many girls go out and try to find someone new to help them"

From the sound of it, they didn't even go out. he just spilled himself after class or something.

"all that means is he wanted more and she wasn't ready for it"

[Repost my same comment here too].

well clearly this is a totally abbreviated version of what happened....and that's why I'm saying don't jump to conclusions...she may or may not be lying - but don't label her response as lying on face value.....

arguing with a Taurus...

Let's just say we see things differently from both a sign and gender perspective.

"You know you being a cancer man you should be able to sense things."

You're right. He has Cancer in Sun & rising. He should've picked up on the vibe, unless his vibe antenna is a bit rusty and under-used.

I really won't back down on this one.....
My biggest reservation with Paul is that my feelings for someone else could cause me to hurt him - someone I really do care very much about..... I am saying this here because it is something I have already told him [so I hope this is okay with you Paul]
I have already said several times that I obviously don't know this girl or the full situation - but to say flat out without knowing all of that that it is a lie is just wrong - I know for a fact *I* am not lying. Itis possible she isn't either. None of us knows.

For a minute, I thought we were talking about two different things. Turns out you (angel) were projecting your situation onto this one.

I think you internalized my comments towards you, and that wasn't my intent. I was merely trying to help Nick out with his different set of circumstances.

I'm not projecting - but you have to remember you are talking to a cancer [meaning Nick] and all I'm trying to point out is that you think it is that cut and dry "sorry man she's lying" and you just don't know that. I would rather not have used myself as an example - but the situation [from what is written here] is fairly parallel. So I had to use my own exapmle to make my point.

Although I do take some offense to the implication...even though I knew it wasn't aimed at me.

i despise pretentiousness in all forms.

I think Nick needs to cut his losses and run.

Barking up this tree while she sorts out her emotions (your take) or disinterest (my take) is not productive.

pretentiousness

*pretension*

? [that's for notso]

You may be right - I'm just saying only he can know what the real situation is.
And yeah - when you made that judgement based solely off of what she said and not the whole story [as we don't have it....] that upset me - because [unintentionally] you called me a liar as well by saying that that explanantion in and of itself is a lie.

*pretentiousness* goddamnit

""you called me a liar as well""

no, he didn't, actually.


""by saying that that explanantion in and of itself is a lie.""

that wasn't my interpretation. it seemed he came to his conclusion within the context of the information provided by the OP, which in no way parallels your own situation.

""yikes!""


relax. here, put this helmet on.

"[unintentionally] you called me a liar as well by saying that that explanantion in and of itself is a lie."

Scorps are brutally honest to a fault. It's like that other post on the Cancer guy who disappeared. Who really knows. So much of our usefulness in "seeing" things is to pick up the vibe and read the person in every way.

With these second hand accounts, we totally miss out on that and rely on the person to be as detailed and honest as possible. From his view alone, it may not be possible.

Regarding you and CJ, it is what it is. I have no opinion of it or either of you whatsoever.

SS, I don't owe you one.

😉

"She said that she could not be in a relationship becuase she still has feelings for a previous dude, telling me that I needed someone who could be devoted to me (this is true but damn)."

One more thing, num-nut. She's lying.


Maybe I misinterpreted what you meant but it looked to me like you were saying that if that was her "excuse" then she was lying....you did say it was a standard line.... but if that's not what you meant then sorry.

"you did say it was a standard line."

Let me preface my comments by saying that they are not at you in any way

But it is a standard line for a lot of women. That is the truth. Similar to "I have a boyfriend" (when she really doesn't). A lot of women have these lines when they want to let a guy off easy, or just get rid of 'em.

With the way some guys are, frankly, I don't blame them.

well I won't continue to argue with you - I've stated my position and you yours.
Good enough.

We now return to our regularly-scheduled programming....

Watching grass grow.

no, that's "scorpio behind you"

"Watching grass grow."

well - I COULD contimue to argue with you if you really wanted me to... I'm pretty good at it....

I probably shouldn't speak for him, but whatever. He didn't make himself clear.


Anyway, I think SR meant that when Ms. Libra recommended that Mr. Cancer find someone who could devote herself to him (while providing an excuse as to why she couldn't), she implied that had not her heart been elsewhere, she would be willing to offer such devotedness. Yet, from the way it is described, their interaction seems fresh and/or short-lived. Therefore, it raises the question, how likely is it that a person would've already considered entering into a committment with someone they have yet to know on a more intimate/personal level? It raises an eyebrow to Ms. Libra's truthfulness.

""SS, I don't owe you one.""


What's that spose to mean?

I get that - but that's whyy I'm saying we don't know the full interaction. He said first she was the one interested then he backed away....then he decided to show interest and now she backed away.... it doesn't sound like the interaction was quite THAT simplistic... but again none of us really knows....

none the less, thanks notso.

well originally I thought he was joking.... like sating "thanks I owe you one" but putting that defiant scorpion "don't" in there....

"well - I COULD contimue to argue with you if you really wanted me to... I'm pretty good at it...."

I was being facetious about the calm after the storm.

Regarding argumentation, I still believe no sign is as stubborn as Scorps although Bulls and Rams will disagree.

well I just think it's less "stubborn" and more "defiant" - my experience with scorps is that they will ALWAYS take the opposing view point - play devil's advocate - whereas taurus is truly just plain bull-headed and stubborn.

Angel, visit us over at the Scorpio board. We all really do love each other. SS and Rox really do it for me.

no way - I have a hard enough time venturing out of the cancer board into the taurus board. This is like home to me 🙂

you know... I really can't tell if that was sarcastic.....

How do I describe Scorpio stubborness?

It's like a pathological, single-minded devotion to winning at any cost. If emotions are high, the stinger will be used. It's kind of sad really. We'll torch everyone and the whole place down just for that brief moment of victory, and then realize later the cost was that paid.