Cancer self destructive (Page 2)

I don't know what you hoped to gain by posting something like that and at the same time trying to preach about bad behavior.



At what point was it mentioned that ALL Decan II Cancers are bad people?

Go back, re-read the statement, and you will see that I expressed concern and merely advised people to approach with guarded emotions based on the real-world experiences of other people.

It's nice that every single Decan II Cancer you know is a Saint.

Yours is the polar opposite experience of other human beings, so agree to disagree based on experience, and take that for what it's worth.

Posted by Scubafish

Lindsay Lohan, my ex and Pixie's pot-head boyfriend all have one thing in common.

Decan II Cancer.

I don't know what in the bloody hell is the matter with those three people, but there is clearly a trend to the destructive behavior.

If there is anything to be learned from the behavior of these three individuals, it is to be cautious with your emotions whenever intertwining your life with a Decan II Cancer.

Take that for what it is worth: A simply written word of warning.

The post was a very simplistic warning about Decan II Cancers, with a scant mention of the three people you were actually talking about. Re-reading that post doesn't help your point at all. All I need to do is quote it in its entirety and there you are. Despite not using the word "all" (what a weird trivial point) you DID finish the post by telling people experiences with Decan II Cancers, that is ALL people born in early July carried some kind of bizarre risk. So I should take a warning to be wary of "intertwining your life with a Decan II Cancer" to mean 1. be wary of Decan II Cancers (that's lots of people) or 2. just your ex, another person's boyfriend, and...Lindsay Lohan? Even if I did happen to meet these two specific people you named (don't suppose anyone here knows Lohan in real life) my bad impressions of them would necessarily be based on the BAD STUFF THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE, or what you've said they've done, much more so than the fact that I glimpsed their birth date.

Your three people who happen to be Cancers are much more identifiable by the nasty stories spelled out here in detail, NOT by the fact that they are "Decan II Cancers". I can only reply to your being "happy" about the fact that all the Decan IIs I know are "saints" by saying I'm not happy about the fact that you've named two Decan II people who are nasty in real life. It's also not an intelligent description of anyone else besides those two people. Don't paint my response as building a case for any group of any people being "saints". I named some Decan II Cancers I know (and some I don't) simply to challenge your nebulous support (that is to say, two "real life" people) for the statement "warning" people about whatever emotional risk they're supposedly taking with Decan IIs.

Some cancers are some aren't self destructive.

- I know the cancers I work with are on top everything at my job. When I first got hired at my job the two of them trained me. My cancer sweetie is normally calm and collected about nerve racking situations. Hell he's the one that normally calms me down when drama comes.


-As far as self destructive cancers my cousin is one. It's mainly because her mother never ever showed her any type of affection and never said she loved her.

Posted by Scubafish
If YOU had dealt with HALF the BS I had to go through with that person, I can assure YOU that your outlook on the situation would be a hell of a lot different than what it currently is.

What I've been through? Just because I don't talk about my past doesn't mean they didn't happen. You don't understand us, yet decided to trash us anyway. Don't try to reword yourself. Action speaks louder than words.

Don't apologize for our lack of understanding it's dumb. Apologize for your own. The fact that you have a problem with this proves you are no better than her.



Please.

You were making excuses for her behavior all along by indicating that somehow "I don't understand it."

If someone was disrespectful to your parents while you were grieving the loss of a close family member, I hardly think that you would be showing such a ridiculously defensive attitude.

Perhaps I worded things wrong with the term "solace," but all that bad Karma she transmitted toward my parents and me has caught up to her and I am praying that he doesn't beat her. I confided to Treefrogger a year ago that I was worried he might beat her up, but we both came to the conclusion that there is nothing I can do and it's none of my business to interfere in.

You have a difficult time understanding that her behavior was absolutely reprehensible, and the fact that she ignored my family the following year made it even worse. This is most likely because you tacitly approve of inexcusable malice, which is why this is my last post to a psychopath like yourself.

If you were assisting a friend with his battle against alcoholism and depression, and the person you love was pursuing someone else? I hardly think you would behave like such a jackass in your defense of such a hurtful person.

It's not that I don't understand you, it's that I don't care to try anymore.

Anyone with a brain will soon figure out just how troubled people create destruction wherever they go.

I have seen and read enough to know for myself that pursuing an argument or a point against a person like you is against my better interests as a sane human being, and your neurotically defensive behavior is further evidence of this.

Thank you for the validation and experience.

@extempjunk

Listen, my opinions are based on a blend of experience and research.

If you have a hard time understanding my statements, then fine.

We agree to disagree.

Just for you:

1.) All Decan II Cancers are saints.

2.) No one can draw conclusions for what works best for him/her in a relationship based on individual life experiences and research.

3.) Discussions based on feelings of emotional angst over said experiences are worthless unless they conform to your particular belief system.

Happy now?

Posted by Scubafish

Listen, my opinions are based on a blend of experience and research.

If you have a hard time understanding my statements, then fine.

We agree to disagree.

No, you agree to agree with the same idiotic cliche you've flung out for the second time in place of anything coherent that defends your point, and I will say whatever I want, whenever I want. Welcome to the internet. It may even be more public than the street, since you can actually manage confining a discussion to one person in the street, and not just anyone passing by who might find what you say objectionable. This, however, is a public forum. In case you hadn't noticed, it's not even a thread about your ex-girlfriend, the OP started it to begin discussing the validity of a pattern of self-destruction in Cancer people. IN THE POST FROM YOU WHICH I QUOTED, you presented an outrageous argument, the only "evidence" and "research" for which you supplied was one person you actually know, someone else another poster knows, and another person definitely neither of you know. If nothing else it's a lesson in common sense not to try stupidly dressing up baseless conclusions as the wisdom of the ages only to disown them later. You supply one person as evidence, I supply two people to counter. You're the only one making claiming this argument is still sound, while grudgingly admitting it was your lack of positivity or whatever, which earned you a bad response. Actually, it was both your WRONGNESS and a starting-position crudeness and lack of tact. Both things. Your declarative post about Cancer IIs DID point the finger at ALL Cancer IIs as some kind of risk group, citing your own bitterness as a primary source. If you've got a problem understanding that dumb things you say on the internet will inevitably attract vitriol, then I couldn't care less, but I'll point out that your dumb argument has little validity if I want.

Posted by extempjunk

Posted by Scubafish

Listen, my opinions are based on a blend of experience and research.

If you have a hard time understanding my statements, then fine.

We agree to disagree.

No, you agree to agree with the same idiotic cliche you've flung out for the second time in place of anything coherent that defends your point, and I will say whatever I want, whenever I want....

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Experiences vary by individual, professor. Some of us have more vast exposure to the behavior of human beings than others.

For your information, my exposure to the behavior of Decan II Cancers extends beyond the limitation of one person. I referenced the ex because that was the closest of the relationships with them.

In case you hadn't noticed, I utilized a real world example to demonstrate the self-destructive nature of some (NOTE I DID NOT SAY ALL) Cancers.

Further, a system of beliefs is usually maintained by the individual on personal experience, as well as the experiences of others, with the addition of research as well.

BTW, you may want to think twice about verbally stifling an individual for expressing his freedom of opinion only to say you will state whatever you want, whenever you want.

Rather Stalinist of you to behave in such a way.

As mentioned before, if you cannot accept my decisions based on personal experience, observation and research, then that's your problem.

BTW, you don't have to welcome me to the internet.

I have been here for quite some time, genius.

Nice pulling out other sources of evidence only when your argument has been challenged, brainiac. Notably you have described them in any useful detail, so whatever. Maybe if you'd bothered to even name one of these experiences before, being aware you are in forum where other people merely have what you actually say to go on, you wouldn't blame a poster later for not telepathically absorbing these supposedly supporting examples from your mind, and somehow invalidating your experience.

Posted by Scubafish

BTW, you may want to think twice about verbally stifling an individual for expressing his freedom of opinion only to say you will state whatever you want, whenever you want.

I'm glad you picked up on the tone of that particular sentence and made the presumption I thought you would. Unlike the post of yours I first quoted, my statement was actually ambiguous. Because I say what I want doesn't mean I'm impulsive and command people I don't even know even know to automatically sympathize with feelings and past experiences of mine they neither have access to nor are responsible for.

The fact that when I do say something, I don't usually solicit a maelstrom of protest from people who I have to make some half-assed attempt to portray as insensitive and/or beneath my worldly experience is one indication that I make decent decisions.

You guys really need to grow up...seriously...

I've noticed the Cancer forum has become a cesspool for jilted friends, lovers, etc from other signs. Y'all just need to get over it and move on. Life isn't a fairy tale regardless of your sign. Everyone gets hurt in life.
That's life! If you have had a bad experience from anyone of any sign, be mature enough to understand that one's sun sign is not a sole indicator of that behavior. And to think so is unbelievably childish and immature. Look at the emotional dynamic of the relationship, not the person's sun sign, then you won't have to come here and fight everyone of the same sign of that person who hurt you. Stop projecting.

Aren't you Cancers getting tired of being bashed by people who just broke up with a Cancer? I'm just sayin..

Posted by guest1
You guys really need to grow up...seriously...

I already tried that when I suggested we agree to disagree, and leave it at that.

There are certain people in life that fail to accept the fact that human beings are entitled to a difference of opinion.

In this failure, they do not respect the thoughts and experiences of others when it is in contrast with whatever Orwellian belief system they adhere to.

I posted some real-world instances of self-destruction on display by a Cancer, while consistently going out of my way to say NOTE I DID NOT SAY ALL on several occasions when speaking to the greater population of Cancers.

While it remains true that I have apologized profusely to a person that I offended with my remarks, it also remains true that I am still being dogged by another person for my experience-based thoughts.

From experience I think Cancers are probably the most self-preservative signs. Its the ONE thing that gives them the edge over Scorpio's self-destructive tendencies. If they do happen to have self-destructive qualities its probably something they arent aware of, once they do realize they stop.

@Scubafish...I get it. A Cancer from the second decan to be exact hurt you badly. I get it. My point is this. Do you not see how silly it is to point out the sun sign of your ex and not the personality or character? I'm assuming you are an adult. To say one's penchant for self destruction only hinges on their sun sign is childish. If you want to go the zodiac route, where is her venus, or moon, or most importantly, her mars? I knew a scorpio who was destructive, but I am not going to assign blame to their sun sign. Thinking rationally as an adult should not be considered to be "Orwellian". To paint a whole population badly because of bad experiences with a few is the epitome of immaturity and probably a hell of a lot MORE "Orwellian" I am not invalidating your "real life" experiences. I am simply pointing out what really should be obvious. Self destructive behavior is a human trait, not one only for a few.