I was raised by narcissists who emotionally neglected and physically/mentally abused me as a child.

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The key is to be aware of your triggers & early warning signs, and get on top of them.

I have abandonment issues written all over me as well. Aries sun/Virgo moon mom, Scorp sun/Cap moon dad, both freaking psychos and each one more useless than the other. I learned to live without their support from my early teens and it fucked me up big time.

I still have trust & abandonment issues to this day and getting past them is far easier said than done. I almost pushed the love of my life right out the door when I laughed at him for saying he thinks he's falling in love with me. I laughed because I thought he was kidding. He was PISSED OFF. But I found it difficult to believe that someone would genuinely love me, because of the blatant piss-poor job my parents did of showing it, and my ex who allegedly loved me very much didn't seem to give it a second thought before walking away - even though I initiated the break-up. He could've fought for us but didn't. And trust? I walked out on the love of my life for a full fortnight for merely seeing a girl kiss him because in my mind's eye he took too long to pull away from her, even though it was like 3 seconds.

It's all a work in progress because we still have the memories and that's what's fucking us up. If we couldn't remember, it wouldn't be an issue for you and me. We have to learn to show faith more than mistrust. Though it's gonna take a hell of a person to help us fully get over it. Same way an abused dog learns to trust & love humans again.
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I POSTED a link on emotional neglect

It’s real

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-to-recognize-overcome-childhood-emotional-neglect-0218165
Symptoms of Emotional Neglect

- “Numbing out” or being cut off from one’s feelings

- Feeling like there’s something missing, but not being sure what it is

- Feeling hollow inside

- Being easily overwhelmed or discouraged

- Low self-esteem

- Perfectionism

- Pronounced sensitivity to rejection

- Lack of clarity regarding others’ expectations and your own expectations for yourself

I scored 7 out of 8 on the above for like a decade.
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I was emotionally damaged, and it's a struggle to create intimate bonds other than physical (if initiated because even prior i struggle). Its like I only know how to make someone feel good by touching them, but never sure how to communicate so internally i just become distant from everyone as to not over step, and extremely lonely. Only really have sex when someone inadvertently shows signs of proof that it's ok to move forward. I feel like I missed out on the ability to talk about my self and my life and not feel shame. But always feel shame for not being of service to others. I now have mommy/daddy issues. And dating similar mates (pisces women). unavailable women. and using men for sex even once in a blue moon (not the recent blue moon though hah)
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I POSTED a link on emotional neglect

It’s real

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/how-to-recognize-overcome-childhood-emotional-neglect-0218165
Symptoms of Emotional Neglect

- “Numbing out” or being cut off from one’s feelings

- Feeling like there’s something missing, but not being sure what it is

- Feeling hollow inside

- Being easily overwhelmed or discouraged

- Low self-esteem

- Perfectionism

- Pronounced sensitivity to rejection

- Lack of clarity regarding others’ expectations and your own expectations for yourself

I scored 7 out of 8 on the above for like a decade.
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I think my whole immediate family has emotional neglect 😆

Including thyself. It's all the parents fault. I'm not gone tell you to go therapy, but I will tell you to fill up a blunt.

Are you sure you are narcissistic? Maybe you just take your own feelings more seriously than anyone important to you ever did when you were a child.


yeah, i do. but its like i have kindness toward other's [roblem, and compassion, but deepdown i always feel like mine are greater though i know logically that's not true. so if someone seems to not care about me, i tend to over react and inadvertently hurt them. my love isnt talking to me rn. she said she felt "used" by me.that i put my emotional labor on to her.
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Have you tried talking to them about it? I think an apology would really help you heal

Don’t be surprised if they become incredibly defensive. Just keep your cool and stay the course
i spoke to my mom yesterday. i dont think my dad could handle it. see i forgave them years ago. before i realized what and how exactly they affected me as an adult.
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we have so much in common. I feel all of that. The ex walking away. I DID lose the love of my life due to an inappropriate reaction. I feel you
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Hope yours got burned as bad as mine. He went back to his female ex with whom he had a son, but she dumped him a month later lol. He then shaved his head and turned vegan. According to the kid he's been single for the most part of the last 8 years.

As far as my parents go, my mom is incorrigible. She will never change, so I did the best thing for myself and cut the toxic people out of my life. She's no1 on that list. My dad died back in October so scratched him off the list. I'm not gonna waste my energy on someone who refuses to admit she ever did wrong. She's way too selfish to do that. I learned not to need her since I was like 13-14 so it's hardly a heavy loss.

Now all I care about is making the most & the best out of the love of my life. Sure we've had bumps on the road along the way but our ability to learn from them & grow even closer is what makes us work. Communication communication communication. Without that, misunderstandings pile up and resentment builds up. Don't let crap fester, clear the air as soon as you can before resentment starts to form. When I laughed at my boy, he stormed away and tried to leave the hotel we were staying at, but I stopped him at the last second.

Even though he was furious, he allowed me to explain my reaction and that day was a turning point in our relationship. Now, 6 months later I've helped him get a great job at a large fitness center a good friend of mine owns. He's been up all night bouncing off the walls, poring through a stack of documents my friend gave him with the craziest twinkle in his eye lol. He's over the moon and that huge smile is all the reward I need.

When there's a will there's a way. As long as you're both willing to make an effort, very few things are impossible. What happened with your partner?
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we have so much in common. I feel all of that. The ex walking away. I DID lose the love of my life due to an inappropriate reaction. I feel you
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Hope yours got burned as bad as mine. He went back to his female ex with whom he had a son, but she dumped him a month later lol. He then shaved his head and turned vegan. According to the kid he's been single for the most part of the last 8 years.

As far as my parents go, my mom is incorrigible. She will never change, so I did the best thing for myself and cut the toxic people out of my life. She's no1 on that list. My dad died back in October so scratched him off the list. I'm not gonna waste my energy on someone who refuses to admit she ever did wrong. She's way too selfish to do that. I learned not to need her since I was like 13-14 so it's hardly a heavy loss.

Now all I care about is making the most & the best out of the love of my life. Sure we've had bumps on the road along the way but our ability to learn from them & grow even closer is what makes us work. Communication communication communication. Without that, misunderstandings pile up and resentment builds up. Don't let crap fester, clear the air as soon as you can before resentment starts to form. When I laughed at my boy, he stormed away and tried to leave the hotel we were staying at, but I stopped him at the last second.

Even though he was furious, he allowed me to explain my reaction and that day was a turning point in our relationship. Now, 6 months later I've helped him get a great job at a large fitness center a good friend of mine owns. He's been up all night bouncing off the walls, poring through a stack of documents my friend gave him with the craziest twinkle in his eye lol. He's over the moon and that huge smile is all the reward I need.

When there's a will there's a way. As long as you're both willing to make an effort, very few things are impossible. What happened with your partner?
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We weren’t partners. Close friends and at times lovers. I actually talked to my dad today. My parents like putting blame on each other however I think it hit him that they made some mistakes. I hear you with your relationship with your partner making you smile. I get the same way. When I “make it up to then” and they are “happy”. But I feel bad. Because I need the adoration. And I try my best doing selfless acts of service but in the end of the day I deep down always expect them to adore me and appreciate me in return. And that’s not selfless at all now is it? I told my father about my empathy. And how I feel it but don’t know how to express it. And it’s killing me. And I want to “explain” so much but I’m realizing people don’t want to hear that. I’m told it’s “antagonizing”.
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we have so much in common. I feel all of that. The ex walking away. I DID lose the love of my life due to an inappropriate reaction. I feel you
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Hope yours got burned as bad as mine. He went back to his female ex with whom he had a son, but she dumped him a month later lol. He then shaved his head and turned vegan. According to the kid he's been single for the most part of the last 8 years.

As far as my parents go, my mom is incorrigible. She will never change, so I did the best thing for myself and cut the toxic people out of my life. She's no1 on that list. My dad died back in October so scratched him off the list. I'm not gonna waste my energy on someone who refuses to admit she ever did wrong. She's way too selfish to do that. I learned not to need her since I was like 13-14 so it's hardly a heavy loss.

Now all I care about is making the most & the best out of the love of my life. Sure we've had bumps on the road along the way but our ability to learn from them & grow even closer is what makes us work. Communication communication communication. Without that, misunderstandings pile up and resentment builds up. Don't let crap fester, clear the air as soon as you can before resentment starts to form. When I laughed at my boy, he stormed away and tried to leave the hotel we were staying at, but I stopped him at the last second.

Even though he was furious, he allowed me to explain my reaction and that day was a turning point in our relationship. Now, 6 months later I've helped him get a great job at a large fitness center a good friend of mine owns. He's been up all night bouncing off the walls, poring through a stack of documents my friend gave him with the craziest twinkle in his eye lol. He's over the moon and that huge smile is all the reward I need.

When there's a will there's a way. As long as you're both willing to make an effort, very few things are impossible. What happened with your partner?
We weren’t partners. Close friends and at times lovers. I actually talked to my dad today. My parents like putting blame on each other however I think it hit him that they made some mistakes. I hear you with your relationship with your partner making you smile. I get the same way. When I “make it up to then” and they are “happy”. But I feel bad. Because I need the adoration. And I try my best doing selfless acts of service but in the end of the day I deep down always expect them to adore me and appreciate me in return. And that’s not selfless at all now is it? I told my father about my empathy. And how I feel it but don’t know how to express it. And it’s killing me. And I want to “explain” so much but I’m realizing people don’t want to hear that. I’m told it’s “antagonizing”.

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Oooh that sounds bad! I mean yeah, if I'm not appreciated I'm getting the fuck outta here. But I don't need blatant displays of appreciation to feel validated. The twinkle in my boy's eyes and the wide smile and the affection he shows towards me is enough for me, because I know it's genuine. That's the plus side of being best friends for 4 years beforehand. We had plenty of time to bond. When he got back home last evening, he was beaming because of the job he'd just gotten and I felt complete.

Feeling bad about making them feel good, oh yes that's definitely cause for concern. You need to work on that. Because remember, true love is selfless love. Love with strings attached isn't love.

On the father thing, mine was the same as my mother in that they both refused to admit doing wrong, ever. They would accuse each other of making mistakes instead of owning their own. Talking with them is like trying to run uphill on a lubed road so I stopped trying early on. Because talking to people like that only reinforces your mental & emotional image of them, and keeps your own pain to the surface. If they're not willing to FULLY acknowledge guilt for fucking up, it's only gonna fuck you up even more. Because they are the source of your pain.

Explain your empathy issues to the therapist, stick with an impartial party right now until you have gotten some answers to use in future encounters with your folks.
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Now i'm suffering from the consequences of my traumas, my intimacy, abandonment, anxiety and depression issues. Been on the journey of self discovery and in the midst, also understanding that I probably have narcissistic personality disorder by proxy. AMA (im a cancer, both parents are pisces).
I relate so much to this. My parents divorced when i was younger, my mom kidnapped me from my dads and i went to mexico for a few days, came back to a total mess. Cops all over my house, i was missing for days. I stayed with my dad, he remarried and i got the worst stepmom ever. As a young girl i never had a mother figure and my stepmom would tell me how stupid and ugly i was and how no man willl ever love me. And i was 12 or 13! I wanted to be the first person in my family to go to college and she would tell me how only stupid whores go to college and how i will never have anything. Yea crazy right? shes was a nut. When i was younger i really believed those things and wanted to commit suicide when i was 15. I met my first boyfriend at the time and he literally saved my life. Now being older i see it was never me and even adults are wicked. ITS NEVER YOU, dont let anyone take your happiness. I went to college and graduated. Have my own place and loving my life. I barely talk to my stepmom now, she will die in her misery. Dont let anyone have control over you, its your life and it goes by really fast. Do you. Live for you.
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I feel you.

Parents really need to get it in their head that how they act with their children at a young age can cause such a deep wound, sometimes the child can roll with the punches and fight through it with a crushed spirit in the end or the latter, fall into a pit to numb that pain.

my brother didn't make it, I did. You need to be strong and find pillars that'll keep you from toppling over, it'll help. It really helped me.
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Now i'm suffering from the consequences of my traumas, my intimacy, abandonment, anxiety and depression issues. Been on the journey of self discovery and in the midst, also understanding that I probably have narcissistic personality disorder by proxy. AMA (im a cancer, both parents are pisces).
I relate so much to this. My parents divorced when i was younger, my mom kidnapped me from my dads and i went to mexico for a few days, came back to a total mess. Cops all over my house, i was missing for days. I stayed with my dad, he remarried and i got the worst stepmom ever. As a young girl i never had a mother figure and my stepmom would tell me how stupid and ugly i was and how no man willl ever love me. And i was 12 or 13! I wanted to be the first person in my family to go to college and she would tell me how only stupid whores go to college and how i will never have anything. Yea crazy right? shes was a nut. When i was younger i really believed those things and wanted to commit suicide when i was 15. I met my first boyfriend at the time and he literally saved my life. Now being older i see it was never me and even adults are wicked. ITS NEVER YOU, dont let anyone take your happiness. I went to college and graduated. Have my own place and loving my life. I barely talk to my stepmom now, she will die in her misery. Dont let anyone have control over you, its your life and it goes by really fast. Do you. Live for you.
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Now i'm suffering from the consequences of my traumas, my intimacy, abandonment, anxiety and depression issues. Been on the journey of self discovery and in the midst, also understanding that I probably have narcissistic personality disorder by proxy. AMA (im a cancer, both parents are pisces).
I relate so much to this. My parents divorced when i was younger, my mom kidnapped me from my dads and i went to mexico for a few days, came back to a total mess. Cops all over my house, i was missing for days. I stayed with my dad, he remarried and i got the worst stepmom ever. As a young girl i never had a mother figure and my stepmom would tell me how stupid and ugly i was and how no man willl ever love me. And i was 12 or 13! I wanted to be the first person in my family to go to college and she would tell me how only stupid whores go to college and how i will never have anything. Yea crazy right? shes was a nut. When i was younger i really believed those things and wanted to commit suicide when i was 15. I met my first boyfriend at the time and he literally saved my life. Now being older i see it was never me and even adults are wicked. ITS NEVER YOU, dont let anyone take your happiness. I went to college and graduated. Have my own place and loving my life. I barely talk to my stepmom now, she will die in her misery. Dont let anyone have control over you, its your life and it goes by really fast. Do you. Live for you.
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