In love with confusing cancerian girl, mixed messages

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I don't know where to start because this is such a complicated story and I normally don't use forums asking for help but with this Cancerian I really feel a little helpless for the first time in my life. I am deeply in love with this beautiful cancerian girl and have been since day one when I met her. Just to warn - This is going to be a long story so I have to post it under each other I believe (?). We live far away from each other in different countries and met when I was on vacation. She initiated contact but I never saw her message and I didn't contact her until two months had gone by of personal reasons. ( I know - very bad move )

When I contacted her I apologized honestly right away, I saw she was disappointed because she told me that she had been looking a lot at my profile until she was thinking “Whatever”. I was completely honest with her right away and told her that I was afraid of how much I felt when I first met her and that I also had some personal things going on in my life which made it difficult. She said that she really appreciated my honesty and we started chatting and being in contact online. It developed fast and we had daily contact.

At one point I told her how much I liked her and she told me that she knows how I feel, but at this point in her life she cannot discuss this and that she really really hoped I understood, she also said that she wants to be a better person. I was devastated but I didn't stop being in contact with her because I was thinking that she said these things for a reason but I did not believe that she didn't want any contact or that she did not like me back because when she initiated contact she told me how beautiful I was and I could see in her face that she liked me as well. She went "away" for a week after I told her that I like her and then she came back to me because I just kept on sending her messages once now and then telling her that I was thinking of her and hoping she was ok. We had even more contact after this, we flirted, we opened ourselves to each other with many personal things, things in the past, growing up and everything was good until one day when she told me that she actually was in a relationship which she had tried to end for some time now. She said that she does not love this person. When she told me it was obvious how bad she felt and that she was afraid of telling me this and I was really sad and broken. I told her that I did not know and that I understood that she was in a very difficult situation and that I am here for her if she needs me, I did not hide my disappointment. To be honest, I could not hide it.

After some time when we continued our same contact I got to the point where I said to her that I can't stop feeling the way I do for her, that I feel really bad about it since she is in a relationship and that I don’t even know if what she is saying about trying to end the relationship is true or not. The next day she broke up (!)
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and then she pretended that she had not seen my video messages ( we send each other video messages and there you can see if someone has seen ur video message or not ) and that she was gonna see them this day. I knew she already saw them before she ended the relationship but she pretended I think because she did not want me to think that she broke up this relationship because of me, even if I am pretty sure she did.

I just went with it and I told her that I am here for her if she needs anything and that she can always call me or contact me. We continued our contact and she was very shy, holding back and I have always been very open, flirty and not hiding how I feel about her because I don't want to or need to hide it even if I don't want to scare her away because I deeply care for her and I don’t want to loose her.

During our conversations we have had some issues because she is the type of person who only gives hints about how she feels about something, even if it is something bothering her badly. Luckily I almost take every single hint because I often feel what she feels, but I never say anything about it because I know she doesn't like talking openly about it so I avoid it as much as possible because I want her to feel good and safe around me. I know she has some issues with me with for example the fact that we live so far from each other, there is a bit of a age difference between us and I am in close contact with my ex working together and even sharing apartment even if there are no feelings for each other at all. All these things I know is bothering her, I completely understand her and I am doing my very best to make her see over time that she does not have to worry about this. I only have eyes for her, I am willing to move and do whatever it takes because when I feel, I feel deeply and I never play games. She is the one who plays games, even if I don’t think she does it on purpose it is just her way to protect herself and I am not used to this, but I try to go by it and to hold on to it even if it’s very hard, it is hurtful and it is very confusing.

I finally went to visit her after talking some months and the first days were absolutely perfect. We went out for dinner, we went dancing, we were flirting, we were talking about everything and we almost kissed but she pulled away when I tried even if she was the one to almost start the whole thing. She also told my friend that she was glad that I was so careful and took my time with her because she did not want to loose me, that she had lost people before when something happened to fast.

After some time I could not hold back anymore ( Maybe stupid of me ) and I openly told her exactly how I feel, how much I am in love with her and what I want. At first it seemed like she was happy about it but then she got really mad. She got so mad like I have never seen her before and I just could not believe everything she said to me.
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She was being almost cruel to me and I did not get it at first. She told me first that she does not like to talk about these things, that she does not like herself when being in a relationship, that she did not want this now and she also told me these weird things that I would find someone better than her anyway, that she was not my type of girl and that I would fell in love with someone else eventually. I told her that this is not true, that she is exactly my type and that she is the one I like and that I am not the type of person to fall in love often. Last time I fell in love was over 7 years ago. Then she got even more mad and started screaming to me that I was not her type, that she did not like me in this way and I asked her if she was only playing with me. She then told me that she is like this with everyone and that I only see it as love because I am in love. I can agree with her that this is a possibility in life of course but I do not believe in her when it comes to us. Every action, everything that we have been so far has been nothing as friends, more lovers or at least someone who is dating and wants to see what this can be in the future. I am not a patient person but with her I really want to be patient because she is really something else and she deserves only the best.

I told her that I am so deeply sorry for being pushy and I asked her if I was too fast to open up to her, I could see the answer “yes, you were too fast” in her eyes even if she did not say it. I also asked her the stupid question if she could like me over time because I just went by my feelings at that point and I felt helpless. She then said that if she likes someone she knows it right away, and I told her “Yes! Exactly like i did with you from the very beginning” She then blushed, looked down smiling for a second and then she put on her “stone” face again getting mad, saying that she does not like anyone over time and that if she likes someone she does not say it!


After our fight she hinted that she did not want to see me, but when I asked her if everything is ruined now she said “ It’s only up to you and stared right into my eyes looking really mad “. I said “Ok, can we just forget that this happened?” and she said “Yes”. After a couple of hours the same day things were actually starting getting back to normal again and I was deeply grateful that she did not pull away.

During my vacation here is has been so much back and forth and we have had one more argument where I think I hurt her badly, even if I never meant to hurt her and at first I never understood why but after some time I got it. I am really trying here. She then pulled away from me for a whole weekend and more and almost did not talk to me at all until I had showed her how sorry I was for days and days. I really was and am sorry, I really care for her. After this argument I said “I don’t want to loose you” and she said “ You almost have “ screaming in my
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face with tears in her eyes. I was devastated and afraid and I think she was too. Even so, things got back to normal and she carefully came back to me again.

I have never been this confused. Everything she does in action shows that I am so much more than a friend but because of these two fights I am very confused regarding what she says when she is mas VS what she shows all the other time. I feel and hope that she said these things only so that I would take things slowly with her and that she probably understood that this is the only thing that is going to prevent me from doing this over and over again. Even if she said that I am just a friend, she does not treat me as a friend at all. She has for example a best friend here which we are hanging out with together and she is so close to this friend, she are close physically as well and they are always playing around doing absolutely everything. This is how she is with everyone else - besides me. When she is close to me it is very carefully like sometimes she takes my hand when we are walking or she touches me carefully. She looks at me when she thinks I don’t see her, she blushes every time I give her a compliment and overtime she has been what I believe she feels is too close with me, she pulls a little away but always come back. She watches over me all the time but does not show it to anyone ( I see it though ), she is very close to other people all the time but to me only sometimes and then pulls a little away, she does all the little things for me, she remembers absolutely everything about me and things that I have told her and she is an absolutely fantastic person.

She also has put me through all different types of “testing” from the very start and it has been so hard, difficult and heart breaking at times. I have been tested on several occasions with everything from she showing how she looks when she feels or think she is at her worst or “ugliest” but I just keep on telling her how beautiful she is because I never have seen a more beautiful woman before. After she did this for a long period she started fixing herself up for me again every day. She tries to make me jealous from time to time from the very start, but just to a certain point and I never hide how I feel when she does this. I know she does it on purpose but it still works. I get really jealous, I am a leo and I am jealous when I don’t know where I have a person and because I am so in love. For example at one time I thought she kissed another and I got really pissed and told her that I can’t handle it, that it is not her fault and that I probably should not feel this way but I do and it kills me. At that time I thought I would loose her but she was so stressed and afraid and she told me openly that it was nothing, she promised me and it seemed to me that she was afraid of loosing me. When we fixed this issue she was all calm and happy again and she has been more careful with the jealousy thing after this.
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Other things she did is for example is lying about her age until I actually came to visit her in another country. Who does that with “just a friend?”. She did this because she knows that I care about age, and when she told me it was after I had told her how much in love I was with her, after our argument. I said I was disappointed that she lied to me but that I don’t care about age with her. We are both adults and it is not a huge difference.

She told me one time that she stayed up three hours one night just watching pictures of me (!), she has saved pictures of me on her phone, she suddenly tells me how good looking I am and she always get’s shy when she does it like she can’t believe she actually said it, but with other people she seems so confident. She keeps on asking me about moving to where she lives, she keeps on hinting on this over and over again and I take it all as certain signs of how much she likes me too, even if she said different wise in our two arguments. I have also sent her flowers before I came here and she was so happy, very openly told me how amazing I was and then the next day pulling a little away again like she always does. This is one thing about her that I actually is starting to love even more because I think it is sweet and I am not the one to give up on a challenge, especially if it involves feelings for someone. She also tries to test me when we are going out and she suddenly feels bad and has to go home. She always ask me like “ I don’t want you to feel bad or being bored because of me since you were looking forward to this and you should have fun because that is why you are here “ and I always say the same thing ( because I mean it ) “ I would rather be with you and stare into a wall than being without you doing something else. It does not matter what and I am here only to see you and get to know you “. She always seems extremely happy after these conversations. She is also quite interested in how my family sees her and always tells me how much her family likes me and her friends as well. I know her family a little bit now and I get very good along with all of them as well.

What I am asking for her is just - Do you people think I am totally wrong when I believe that this girl is in love with me as well? And, is it the right thing just continuing doing what I do? I do not want to be “friend zoned” but I never feel that I am getting in the friend zone even if we are getting to know each other as friends as well, because it feels different between us. It is s much tension, it is so many feelings, it is flirting and we both always forget all about time and place when we are together alone. We have lost credit cards, phones, forgot about other people that were waiting for us etc. I do not plan on giving up on this girl, and I care for her in so many ways. It went from butterflies to really caring and I just want to spend time with her, getting to know her and make her trust me because sh
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All I want is the best for her and I would do anything to make her happy. I know she is moody, I know she has depression, I know she can seem “cold” at times but I know that is only because she has been hurt or has to protect herself and that she is not changing as a person. I like her in all the ways with every mood change and everything that comes with it and I want her to know this. I wish I could stop thinking about the harsh words she said and don’t take them as seriously, especially when I have caught here lying a few times already ( I never tell her that I see it clearly because I don’t want to scare her and I know she does it to protect herself so I want to give her time ).
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Posted by sunkisses26
omg! that was a LOT to read...but I know you must really really be in love with this girl to be sooooo detailed....and I will do my best to be helpful and honest...
1. I am a friendly/touchy feely person and men often take this as me flirting or teasing ...but its not its really just me trying to be nice..
2.Is she older or younger than you?
3 Her concerns are valid... your living with your ex? working with your ex? living so far away from you ...
4. I would test you too...(this isn't to be mean) its just she really wants to get to know you...when I think about 'LOVE' I think about loving someone at their worse...how does she know that you aren't just very infatuate with her ...have you seen her first thing in the morning? have you dealt with her at her worse...
I know, apologize for the very long story. Thank you so much.
1. I see, it is just all these other things that makes me really believe she likes me just as much as I do. And also the fact that she is so jealous she can't even stand my ex and are now trying to make us not even being friends. She is a little manipulative I believe.
2. She is younger.
3. Yes, I am very aware of this and have of course been honest with her from the start.
4. I understand. This is something I have come to learn over time with her and therefore the testing is ok, even if it hurts me badly sometimes.
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Can't believe I read this lol.
advice/?? run awayyyyyyyy
typical immaturity. Loves being center of the world
loves playing games.


and now this one moment "She then blushed, looked down smiling for a second and then she put on her “stone” face again getting mad, saying that she does not like anyone over time and that if she likes someone she does not say it!" ———
seriously— you still stick around— just wow.

She loves attention, nothing else. She's crazy about having fans, lot of them. She even told you she's like that with anyone else. Come on
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Posted by pisceanloves
Can't believe I read this lol.
advice/?? run awayyyyyyyy
typical immaturity. Loves being center of the world
loves playing games.


and now this one moment "She then blushed, looked down smiling for a second and then she put on her “stone” face again getting mad, saying that she does not like anyone over time and that if she likes someone she does not say it!" ———
seriously— you still stick around— just wow.

She loves attention, nothing else. She's crazy about having fans, lot of them. She even told you she's like that with anyone else. Come on
Yeah, she is a little immature ,but I do not believe she loves playing games, at least not with me. I really believe she likes me and that this happened because she is very afraid, and I completely understand her especially when it comes to all the circumstances. So you really think this is only games, nothing else? I think it's weird when I am thinking about all the time and effort she has used on me already, especially when I know she has some depressions and tends to need to withdraw and be by herself, and when I know she has a hard time trusting people and keeping people in her life over time. She normally does not get people close to her, only family and a few close friends, and now me. When we started talking she starting using all her time on me, even when she was at work, when I was on vacation and visiting her she forgot about everything else just to be with me.
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omg! that was a LOT to read...but I know you must really really be in love with this girl to be sooooo detailed....and I will do my best to be helpful and honest...
1. I am a friendly/touchy feely person and men often take this as me flirting or teasing ...but its not its really just me trying to be nice..
2.Is she older or younger than you?
3 Her concerns are valid... your living with your ex? working with your ex? living so far away from you ...
4. I would test you too...(this isn't to be mean) its just she really wants to get to know you...when I think about 'LOVE' I think about loving someone at their worse...how does she know that you aren't just very infatuate with her ...have you seen her first thing in the morning? have you dealt with her at her worse...
I know, apologize for the very long story. Thank you so much.
1. I see, it is just all these other things that makes me really believe she likes me just as much as I do. And also the fact that she is so jealous she can't even stand my ex and are now trying to make us not even being friends. She is a little manipulative I believe.
2. She is younger.
3. Yes, I am very aware of this and have of course been honest with her from the start.
4. I understand. This is something I have come to learn over time with her and therefore the testing is ok, even if it hurts me badly sometimes.
how long have you two been in a relationship...err dating?
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Almost 5 months. And been talking almost every single day, except the one week in the beginning and sometimes she has to be by herself just for one or two days, but she always apologizes right after and comes right back to me. She also told me that she tends to not answer her phone at all or not answering anywhere online when she has these periods coz she simply can't but she is not going to do that with me she said, and she has kept it. She also said that I am different to her, whatever that means.
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Posted by pisceanloves
Leo123_ I don't know dear, if it was me I would leave right away when she started all her drama and for what? maybe it's the way she grabs attention.
for me it feels games and I hate it. What I read there's nothing you did wrong, not even a single thing. Do you really want your life to be total storm like that? Very negative situation and toxic for you
Thank you, I completely understand your advice and your reason for wanting to leave right away in my situation. I don't like games either and I am definitely not used to it. No, I don't want my life to be a total storm, I am really exhausted but still there is something in me that keeps on feeling I really should hang on, I don't know why but when I feel something this strong there usual is a reason for it, not always the reason I thought it would be, but still a good reason. And I have said a lot in this forum but not everything, like for example the fact how she stood by me when everything went straight to h*** on my vacation because of different things that I would like not to discuss because it is too much, but still, she stood by me more than anyone and she kind of saved me in one of the worst situations I have been in my whole life. She did this even if this meant that she risked something extremely important in her own life and she turned her world upside down to keep me safe. After this she pulled a little away again because she was afraid and a little disappointed even if it was not my fault, which I completely understood so I just gave her time. She really is a sweet, good person but I believe she has some big issues and maybe she does the right thing not jumping into a relationship with me, because she knows that she may hurt me. She said one time she wanted to be a better person, to work on herself and I may just have to accept that and see what will happen or if she continues using this much time on me or not.
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Posted by kissmygrits
Is she in the closet and you're her first girl love? Could be inner struggle going on with today's taboos.
She is in the closet and not in the closet at the same time. I think a couple of her closest friends knows, but not her family which she is deeply close to and spends all her time with, even though to me it is pretty obvious so how they are not suppose to know this is a mystery to me. It may be so that they all know, but no one talks about it. I am not her first girl, her ex is a girl but as I understood "no one" knew about it and she keeps so many things to herself, I don't know how she does it. Every time she tells me something personal, or something that is bothering her it is so obvious to me that she always feels as if she is a trouble maker, that it is not ok to feel this way about something etc and every time I tell her that I completely understand, that this is normal to feel and comfort her she seems surprised that someone can understand her and that here is nothing wrong about feeling the way she does with different matters. It seems to me as she is not used to being taken care of when it comes to feelings and what she needs, only to take care of others. She also knows that I for example are an very open person which expresses feelings openly but I would of course have respected her boundaries when it comes to this matter, I have so much respect for her.