Those claws really hurt.........

Ouch... I think my heart is bleeding.........

The bleeding will stop in time sweet angel 🙂 XOXO

Whats going on here?

''Ouch... I think my heart is bleeding......... ''


Ooooh sounds like a Cancer man has got her! lol Right where it hurts....

Yes he does - at least I can admit it.

Are you talking about ceej, or that guy you wanted in real life? Your friend's brother...

Hey, Rover...

Cancer men like confident women, if you appear needy, you will not get what you want. You need to get your mojo back girl! He will come out to play again if all is well. If he doesn't, his loss!

I will remember this one well.

''I do not pretend to understand what went on between you and Paul, obviously more than we were privy to. Although from my experience it's never good to plan a wedding, even in jest, with a person you haven't actually met.''


Angelfish is in love with someone here?? Someone she has met online?

Haha. Maybe she couldnt find a real man in the real world. Online dating is the worst - you never know what the other person is up to.


Angelfish made out she was smarter and more confident than she is.... she has now revealed her neediness and vulnerabilities to everyone here.


She's all talk saying how much she understands Cancer men and blah blah but when it comes down to it - she cant handle them. Cancer has her heart it seems. This is what happens when you give your heart to someone easily.

Cancer men are smart and extremely clever. They love playing their games.

However, if this Cancer man really loved and care for you Angelfish...he would be attending to your needs right now..but he's not right? He is being selfish because she does NOT care.

You have put him off by putting down your guard and showing your emotional weakness.

As 'It seemed Important' said... you need to get your confidence and feistiness back. I bet your Cancer man will come running once he knows youre strong again. Then tell him to shove off!

Hes playing you. Face it. The blunt bottom line is this: This man has conquered you and you let him!

red - I wasn't intending to complain about the complexity of cancer men... I'm just frustrated and have no outlet for my frustration...

and as far as the "joke wedding" that was not me or Paul.

I do have to agree with Red on the comment that Angel needs to get her confidence back. I've learned that KNOWING about Cancer men and their habits and actually having to LIVE it are 2 different things. I am a confident person (Sag Sun) and dealing with a Cancer man and a Virgo daughter (pray for me) and being raised by a Capricorn mother (RIP Mom) has really taught me some lessons and I am still learning. I am not privy to the details either but in reading these boards I think it's best that Angel and Paul keep their private life just that...PRIVATE from now on. It was cute and endearing to read all of the posts between the two and probably gave some of us a little hope and belief in love witnessing it's birth and growth but now we all need to wean ourselves from this and let them work it out in private.

Everybody needs someone to talk to sometimes and I think you should pick a couple of trustworthy people and use PM's to talk about this from now on. People whom you know are not going to go back and tell everything that have valuable opinions and can listen to you and give sincere advice.

You're hurting right now and Lord knows I have been there and back and back again (that damn Cancer Moon...I rebuke you...lol) so this is one time I can say I know how you're feeling right now Angel. A piece of both of your lives have been played out for all to see and comment on and it may have gotten a little out of hand.

My advice Angel is to give him some time to his thoughts and let him work it out within himself. If you've left the door open for him to return to you and his feelings are true then he will return. Do not call him, email, text message, or talk about him anymore on these boards. When he's worked things out in his mind and he's ready to talk he'll contact you some kind of way. It may not even have anything to do with you. There may be something else going on his life and he just needs a break. This sounds like it may be the first time he has done this and it's probably taking you by surprise but you know what this is really doing is showing you how much you care for him and you may/may not be surprised about how you're feeling right now.

With each experience comes a lesson so take whatever you can learn from this and move on. And just like the Phoenix your spirits will rise again! Take it one day at a time Sista.

~Yamama

I posted this because I'm hurt and frustrated right now... not to complain about Paul. I had no intention and still have no intention of putting the whole story out here for everyone to see. I made a very simple statement about how I'm feeling at the moment... I didn't metnion any names or what happened....

and just because I understand how cancer men "are" doesn't mean it doesn't hurt me just as much as it hurts anyone else.....

Well i tried to help. I'm feeling emotional right now so me and my Cancer Moon are going to scutttle off to the corner. I hope you feel better soon.

none of that was directed at you YaMama

Sorry you are hurting.

"Angelfish made out she was smarter and more confident than she is.... she has now revealed her neediness and vulnerabilities to everyone here."

I don't consider loving someone [and having the courage to admit it] a weakness.......

"We should continue to encourage her, but do know she will make a move when she's good and ready."

very true indeed 🙂

''I don't consider loving someone [and having the courage to admit it] a weakness.......''

Admitting you love someone is not a weakness. But showing your hurt feelings IS. This no doubt will scare the Cancer man off.

Dont forget they like confident and cheerful women. This is the same reason why Cancer males are not compatible with the Cancer female...they are too alike.

What I know from experience with Cancer men is that IF they trust you and care for you wholeheartedly, they will NOT play games with you and will explain themselves to you.

Is there anything that can be done to "redeem" yourself after the cancer man has seen just how hurt you are or were and has run away?

"Admitting you love someone is not a weakness. But showing your hurt feelings IS. This no doubt will scare the Cancer man off."

I beg to differ! Showing your hurt feelings is NOT weakness. Infact, not showing them is. It means you are not confident in your relationship to actually confront the person about how hurt you are. It shows signs of "weakness" in your relationship with the person....then again, it's just my point of view....there could also be other reasons why one wouldn't want to "show" feelings...may be that would end up "weakening" the other person and you can't see them that way...like me not being able to open up to my mom completely...b/c I can't see her cry....that would break my heart....so, there are some things I keep to myself...or just very close friends that don't have a big mouth....

I know shedloads of Cancers (and have dated many) and in my experience when they retreat into that shell of theirs it usually means they're hurt. Now finding out exactly what it is that's hurt them is another story, that shell of theirs is almost impossible to penetrate when they're sulking. I learned, the hard way, to just let them be when they're like this. By all means if you can let them know you're there and you care but really it's up to them to open up and let you in - and they usually do, when they're ready.

I have never known a Cancer to back off from someone because they were open about their feelings. Cancers are loving, nurturing people and if they care about you then they will both want, and expect you to open up to them and be honest about how you feel.

''Cancers are loving, nurturing people and if they care about you then they will both want, and expect you to open up to them and be honest about how you feel.''

Exactly.. IF THEY CARE ABOUT YOU. If they dont - then they dont bother coming out of their shell to comfort you. Even if a Cancer man is a little hurt - if he sees the one he loves/cares about is hurt - then he would come out of his shell to comfort them.

Not in this case - because he doesnt care as much as she thinks he does. He is being a little selfish it seems.


''I beg to differ! Showing your hurt feelings is NOT weakness. Infact, not showing them is. ''

It IS weakness because it shows you cannot handle them yourself so you have to show the world for attention seeking purposes.


The Cancer male is sensitive. He NEEDS a stronger female that can help him - especially with his emotions. Hes not going to want a weak, sulking woman similar to him who is hurt so easily.

The Cancer male is sensitive. He NEEDS a stronger female that can help him - especially with his emotions. Hes not going to want a weak, sulking woman similar to him who is hurt so easily.

You CAN be hurt and EVERYONE gets hurt for that matter! I don't know exactly what you mean by a sulky woman but why be bothered with someone who continuously is hurting you. I wouldn't call a woman who protects her hurt sulky, I would call her a woman who is not feed off the "intensity" of hurt feelings that another person causes her. That is not weak not too a Cancer man, that is attraction. He understands that she has emotional STRENGTH within herself to understand no matter how much she wants "him", she will not allow him to "treat" her unfairly whether it be a lover or a friend. She has the STRENGTH to walk away from someone who doesn't mean her life any good. It shows a man that SHE loves HERSELF and WILL not play second class to NO other woman.

A woman who loves herself will draw any man closer to her.

I wouldn't call a woman who protects her hurt sulky, I meant a woman who protects her heart. Not hurt!

Scorpion Sting - you are making a lot of assumptions about a man you DO NOT KNOW. Others who have posted here DO know him because he has been a chatter here for years. Whatever your personal views about me, you want to call me weak and sulky, and accuse me of having no cinfidance, you're welcome to take ANY shot at me you feel is necessary, warranted, or just plain makes YOU feel better about yourself. BUT you have no right what so ever to make accusations against Paul. He is NOT a "player" who uses and conquers women - and that has NOTHING to do with his feelings for me. You may be right that he just doesn't care about ME - but do not make any characterizations about this man. You're only making yourself look like a COMPLETE ass to the rest of the people here who know him and know you couldn't be more wrong about him.

Krobe - youre going off on a tangent.

Lets stick with the issue at hand. Angel is hurt because of this Cancer male and she decides to SHOW her hurt. This IS a WEAKNESS. She doesnt just show it to him - she shows all of us.

How os this protecting her heart?? He heart has already been bruised! (as stated in her title of this post)

''She has the STRENGTH to walk away from someone who doesn't mean her life any good. ''

lol. HE has walked away from her! Therefore she sulks and shows how hurt she is.

''You may be right that he just doesn't care about ME ''

I was correct. He does NOT care about you. This is what I have been trying to say.

I said "may" be right - obviously no one knows that except HIM. The point I was making is you can say whatever you want about ME but leave HIM out of it.

Angel - quit your drama. Youre only saying nice things on here about him because you know he will see it.

You're fake and you display only what you want people to see. You're dishonest.

This Cancer man did the right thing by withdrawing himself from you. He deserves MUCH better.

You're an emotional manipulator and I bet he has sensed this.

Sting


Kill yourself.

Actually I have never said anything bad about him to him, or anyone else here or in private. He knows THAT.

I have never been "fake" quite clearly I don't hold anything back. As evidenced here.

Krobe - youre going off on a tangent.

Lets stick with the issue at hand. Angel is hurt because of this Cancer male and she decides to SHOW her hurt. This IS a WEAKNESS. She doesnt just show it to him - she shows all of us.

How os this protecting her heart?? He heart has already been bruised! (as stated in her title of this post)

''She has the STRENGTH to walk away from someone who doesn't mean her life any good. ''

lol. HE has walked away from her! Therefore she sulks and shows how hurt she is.


LOL! NO NO NO, I am NOT referring to XangelFishx at all. You can say anything YOU want to say about her, no defense on my part. I am referring to the comment about emotional weakness, I think Sarasa is talking about.

I don't know were some of you ladies are picking up the fact that Cancer men don't want you to show some emotional weakness and vulnerability. I hear some women saying that he doesn't want you to be emotional "weak" which is considered hollering and screaming and losing control over YOURSELF. Now, if he does something to make you upset and you cry and get a little emotional, he doesn't mind you showing weakness because he will understand that YOU are just a human with emotions and you ARE sensitive and in touch with your feelings as long as you are not placing ALL your emotional unhappiness on him, he can deal with your feminine emotions, not masculine manly emotions.

OKay Krobe - I see your point now. lol

Cancer male would like it if you opened up to him, especially if he has upset you. This shows that the female truly cares about him. It's okay as a ONE OFF INCIDENT.

But if the female is too needy and emotional - he will back off. This is a major turn off for a Cancer man. He is the one who likes to be mothered (strong, disciplinary sense) and he will give him care, respect and loyalty back.

The Cancer man will withdraw from a woman that gives her heart to him so easily.

Give HER* not him** LOL

But if the female is too needy and emotional - he will back off. This is a major turn off for a Cancer man. He is the one who likes to be mothered (strong, disciplinary sense) and he will give him care, respect and loyalty back.

The Cancer man will withdraw from a woman that gives her heart to him so easily.

EXACTLY! Esp if he can grab your heart with just words and no action! Yeah, he wants you to share your emotions with him but just not whine and cry and beg him for attention. He wants you too be vulnerable and share your emotions with him even while you are upset. Just don't holler or scream at him and lose control over yourself to the point you make him feel really uncomfortable and blame HIM for your emotional wellbeing. He wants to know you are a human with emotions or you will not get anywhere with him but a withdrawal dish.

A Cancer man may SAY he wants a woman who is like his mother but NOPE, in the long run you will see too that he will prefer a woman who is his LOVER, someone who brings out the best in him and will let him figure out his problems and deal with his well being by himself. YOu cannot be a man's MOTHER and LOVER it will not work, you are going to be his LOVER and challenge him or you will be stuck in the mothering friend role for as long as you remain his stepping stone.

''A Cancer man may SAY he wants a woman who is like his mother but NOPE, in the long run you will see too that he will prefer a woman who is his LOVER, someone who brings out the best in him and will let him figure out his problems and deal with his well being by himself. YOu cannot be a man's MOTHER and LOVER it will not work, you are going to be his LOVER and challenge him or you will be stuck in the mothering friend role for as long as you remain his stepping stone.''

He wants a strong, confident woman who will SUPPORT him. Someone who UNDERSTANDS Him (in the way his mother understood him if they were close), not necessarily BEING his mother (as krobe said).

Oh and yes - Cancer men LOVE challenges. A woman with her own mind and her own life/passion. Not someone who will agree to everything he says and does.

These men are very tactical - they know exactly how to swoon a women and make her fall head over heels in love with him. He is Clever and understands women (feminine emotions). He can easily win a woman's heart but it is EXTREMELY difficult to win his, as he guards it so well.

But the one woman that can challenge him and can understand him is the one that will win this mans heart.

These men are very tactical - they know exactly how to swoon a women and make her fall head over heels in love with him. He is Clever and understands women (feminine emotions). He can easily win a woman's heart but it is EXTREMELY difficult to win his, as he guards it so well.

But the one woman that can challenge him and can understand him is the one that will win this mans heart.

YEAP, and the easier you are the quicker he will run. I didn't mean a mama, mama, he does want someone to understand him like a mother SHOULD, but not necessarily be his mother so yes, I meant to say it in that way.

He also doesn't want to win your heart over with just words. That is why a Cancer man will wait it out until he starts showing "true" loyalty to a woman because he doesn't want to give his time, energy or devotion over to a woman who is so easily won. He likes to put in work too.

Yes, and you are right Cancer men are very tactful and they are very smart men. He is also aware of a woman who presents herself as a "stepping stone", someone who will give lend her shoulder for him to cry on, someone who is supporting him without "earning" his trust and who listens to him on his terms. You cannot be a stepping stone for him either, he wants a woman who considers herself first class in his book or nothing. Well nothing serious anyways.

It's truly amazing that the two of you can analyze what happened between us with no ACTUAL idea what ahppened or why I am feeling hurt.... but please, by all means continue concocting wild ideas so you have an excuse to take pot shots at ME if it makes you feel better about yourselves.

EXACTLY! Esp if he can grab your heart with just words and no action!

LOL Krobe, truer words have never been spoken. It's just their words are so sweet it takes a second to realize there's nothing behind them. There skills at manipulation are definitely underrated.

Oh my fault XF,

I know you started this board but I wasn't referring to ANYTHING about YOU, just some of the other readers you know I don't have two thoughts in my mind about commenting or you or any situation about YOU! You are not the only woman reading these posts, you don't own the DXP do you?

Now lets get back to the women who are reading these posts in hopes to to know what a true First-Class woman is about now! I got this from a woman who says this is the way YOU will ALWAYS present yourself to any man.

Here's what First-Class Goddess - YOU - looks like in a REAL man's eyes:

1. Even if he's dating other women, he doesn't use you as a "friend" to talk to, or a shoulder to cry on while he's working things out for himself -and he won't do this because YOU WON'T ALLOW IT.

2. He calls you in advance for dates, checks in on you often, asks you how you FEEL before he makes a serious decision, but is able to make decisions without asking you what he should be doing.

3. He doesn't just "talk" about his feelings for you - he actually DOES things that move the relationship forward.

4. In a REAL relationship, the man GIVES, and the woman GIVES BACK. If he's not giving, there's nothing to give back.

A woman who believes in her First-Class Goddess status - that's YOU - will never GIVE to a man in the HOPE that HE'LL GIVE BACK.

LOL Krobe, truer words have never been spoken. It's just their words are so sweet it takes a second to realize there's nothing behind them. There skills at manipulation are definitely underrated...What's up SEXYSCORP.

No their words are not overrated, LOL! Not at all, you have to LISTEN to him but SEE his actions, if their is not action you are in an imaginary relationship and like Leokitten continues to tell these women on the boards, quit imagining things and move on. He is not worth your time, energy or effort if he is not putting in work with his actions. She is RIGHT!

Never said I did. Funny for someone who doesn't have "two thoughts about" me you sure do talk a lot about me.......

Please girls....keep playing the gossip game. Don't let anyone interrupt with their real lives.

Wow - someone is being very self centred.

Not everything is about you angelfish.

No wonder the Cancer man fled from you..

"Now lets get back to the women who are reading these posts in hopes to to know what a true First-Class woman is about now!"

could you be any more of a complete ass?......

Scorpion sting believe it or not I wasn't even referring to NOTHING XF was saying on these boards please for the record between me and YOU, no thoughts in my head about nothing XF posts. I was referring to Sarasa comments. I don't know anything about anything going on in anyones life and I really don't care to know.

self centered? oh you'll definately have to explain that one..... I hardly see how posting in MY OWN thread makes me self centered.....

I'm pretty sure the ones telling the person who started the thread to stay out of their own thread are the self centered ones..... stage is all yours ladies