Is Cap man into me or not? (Page 2)

I have, I am. It was never a joke...

Its just a figure of speech..I don't think being in a relationship with a cap is a joke of any kind..but the no contact for 13 weeks is taking the piss..All things aside.I hope he's ok..as in healthwise..

Who knows... People treat their enemies better than this bizarre behavior.

That's true, CapGirl. Most do treat their enemies better than this.

I had e-mail contact from my strange Cap on Monday. I replied with an invitation for his kids to join mine at the pool this week. No response. This is just rude. This.. "I didn't ignore your message, I just haven't answered it," is no good for me anymore. It's rude. Plain and simple.

Now.. perhaps he sent his e-mail Monday and then whisked his kids away for the fourth. Possible.. but I doubt it.

I'm pissed.. and I'm going to summon my will power to be really slow about responding to his call/e-mail/IM's IF AND WHEN he ever decides to contact me again.

I just bought Suzanne White's Guide to Love. It's fabulous. Go buy it! I've owned her New Astrology book for years. They both blend Chinese & Western Astrology. And, I love White because she is a Scorpio Tiger, just like me.

Anyway, in Guide to Love.. she talks about compatibilites between all the chinese signs, and then all the western signs. So .. for me and my Cap.. I read Tiger/Dog.. and the Scorpio/Cap.

I found this particularly revealing in the Scorp/Cap section:
"It's not that your [Cap] lover doesn't enjoy sex and aspire to intimacy.But Cap lives with a deep fear of failure in all pursuits. . . This reserve on Cap's part may make it appear as if he or she doesn't hanker to be close.... Scorpio must sympathize with the fear and in your compassion for Cap try not to take what seems like distance between you as a personal affront. Most important of all, don't become resentful or shut your reticent partner out. Down inside, your Cap mate is just dying to be deeply close to you. Be patient, Scorpio, and let your Cap surprise you with a slow-to-ignite sensuousness and devotion that you will ultimately agree is well worth waiting for."

Patience is not one of my virtues.. especially when you look at the Tiger (impulsive)Chinese sign that I am.

MM & Scorpio -

Scorpio - I can apoligize for calling or percieving you to be weak based on what I read.


I feel the same way about learning about these types of people. I was confused once, but not anymore.

I read this board just to keep me strong in my convictions, and know that I will not give into him until he can man up with his feelings (which could be never)and I am aware of that

I dated this man for 1yr and a half, saw him every day and almost every night, phone calls, dinner awesome sex the works, and then he feel in love with me and then he wanted to poof.

I was already familiar with him which made me walk away quicker than most, I confronted him and told him I was not going to allow him to emotionally or mentally stress me out, I would walk away first, He told me I did not understand, and I told him don't every say that again I understand more than you think, I told him he don't want to communicate and I could not stay around for it and he said he did not have time right know to spend with me. I told him that was all he had to say we both agreed to walk away as friends, know whether he was seeing someone else or not. I regain my control.

My personal opinion is to stop calling PERIOD. Be brutally honest,they like strong women, show some strength, and not run every time they call, maybe the way I am acting could be a little vindictive, but I know so much, I just could'nt turn back now.

If I was graced with his presence and he wanted to talk, I tell you right know I would not hold back anything, and know that what every I say to him it would either bring us back or lose the friendship completely. I would take that chance. But to sugar coat what I want to say to him I could never do.


Scorpio and MM I hope you ladies find that inner strength that we Scropios carry and find a way to get through your confusion.

Because if you don't you will continue the circle of games like some of the ladies on this broad, has been playing since I came to these boards (December 05) and they still don't have the Cap guy or their dreams.

Life and happiness is way more important.

Yes SL..thanks for your words..but I got it covered..Theres no confusion..might've been some at the start..but I am not sweating..we spoke last night..he calls everyday as though it is a religion..I know he really likes me, but like I said the next move is his..I am carrying on as though I never met him. I don't feel the need to call him at all..I have very strong feelings for him, and last night I could feel the tension..I could feel him wanting to spit those words out..but he just couldn't..I felt a bit sorry for him..as and when he's man enough to admit his feelings and I am not bored by that time, we will get the show on the road.

I agree with SB capgirl..Easier said than done I know..but still..

Lol @ sagangel..aww bless..poor baby..As Leo said..be yourself..
I guess for us scorpios, we are just as cold and aloof if not more than Caps..so it just comes naturally..That doesn't mean we don't feel it, we just won't let it control us..Control & Power is a HUGE thing with scorpions..not all scorpions but most..Why are you worried? So what if you miss his call, so what if you don't see him for when he plans it?

My best friend is Sag..and totally adorable..patience of a saint..she's the same as you..she's dealing with a cancer male at the moment..poor cow..he's driving her up the wall and around the bend..Whole year this saga has been going on..I heard somewhere that saggies have a tendency of going for the wrong type and being taken advantage of due to their kind nature..

Hows things with your Leocap?

Sag-

"ScorpionLady and MM ..where do you get this strenght not to call and be there if he calls if you really like this man"

I do still love him but I am not going to go through all the drama of getting him. I don't feel like I should work that hard, I work hard from 9-5 and get paid for it, why work hard for something get it and still have to do all the work harder when I get it...Then I don't need it.

When I make a decision not to do something I just don't do it. Especially if takes me losing my values and integrity and all I will walk away. My pride seems to over power a lot of my actions.


I do agree with LWCAA do it your way, but still have some strength.

MM
"I guess for us scorpios, we are just as cold and aloof if not more than Caps..so it just comes naturally..That doesn't mean we don't feel it, we just won't let it control us..Control & Power is a HUGE thing with scorpions..not all scorpions but most"

If I called him right know he would talk to me, and if I ask him are we going to see each other ever a gain he would say "I don't know maybe" that's why I could never call him and ask him that. (pride)

He has just put my question in a gray area not good, can't give a definite answer why waste my time. (Pride)

If and when he is ready and if I am willing to talk with him then I will. So I will live my life as if he never existed. (Pride)& (Control)


I was told that these type of men don't know how to have a relationship. And I believe it.

Gosh it never ends does it?..oooh the pain!..Good luck with it..I am sure your more than capable of handling him..your a level headed lady..I am still waiting for you to punch him in the nose though 😉

Mines online now as we speak. But I can't be arsed to chat to him. Got nothing to say. I am watching football..France V Portugal..

I would never hit him but I will fuck up is ego if provoked.

But I am good, I can call and talk and hang up as if I was talking to a guy at work or something, no chills no nothing goes through my body, I am done.

Well SB..the game was good to start off with..Portugal had 56% possession of the ball..then Cavalihio (however you spell his name) gave France a penalty. To be honest, it wasn't really a penalty..but oh well..Zidane took it and scored..what a player he is!..brilliant..So skillfull..

Now however, in the second half..its all a bit scruffy..play is constantly interrupted as there are too many diving sessions going on. I hate it when games are interrupted..

It is the 66th minute..play on..

🙂

Quick..go go go..

SB//MM ~ There's nothing/no one TO drop, or I did that already. I basically took the same approach that SL has in telling him not to contact me if he's not able to have a serious relationship. I just need to vent and bytch once in a while bc. I'm not getting my way and it's not turning out as I'd hoped. I don't call him or contact him now, and just get baffled and pissed that he's not tried.

"These type of men don't know how to have a relationship." VERY TRUE. They're good at work and career, and things mental but have no idea how to go about sustaining a relationship.

The thing that makes me the most mad today is that I haven't heard from him since Monday. Nothing new about that.. but I'm mad because I'm finally in the mood to ignore him. But without his contact, I don't have the opportunity to ignore. I hate this.

haha... "w/o his contact, I don't have the opportunity to ignore..." that's good! 😉 I've really found that most have better luck w/ sweetness towards these guys, than trying to beat them. (TaurusGirl's thread on "games"-)

Scorpio: I am so glad I am not alone!! For the longest just thought it was just me.

Missmorals: He has been chasing me for 2 yrs now. I dont know if any of your caps have said this to you when you first start talking but he said, " our kids would be beautiful." I thought that was so cheesy but cute. And yes, if he used it as a line it worked cause i was like, hmmmm, thats interesting!! The first time we started talking was in college, he offered to fly me out with him when he left for his job. I of course declined, just the thought made me feel cheap. He has offered to buy me things, and of course i turn him down ... nothing in this world comes for free! He is an older cappi, like 20yrs older hehehe. He has tried to get my attention, but I work endless hours and sometimes we just miss each other. The first time he said it, was like at the beginning of the year, he was like "I lover you" I responded by teasing him endlessly, i mean what the hell is " i lover you" lol. This time, he didnt mess it up. But now I am like, damn this guy is under my skin and maybe I should let go. Its scary letting him lead because sometimes i wonder does he really want the responsibily. And yes, he does the disappearing act, but of course I do it too, sometimes my job demands more time than i can give. But when he comes back he is always really sweet and apologetic for staying away so long.
He hasnt been married, no kids. Has a great career, a really really nice house and car. Mr. Money bags. He would tell me how he has to be careful because he tends to fall for the wrong women. I just dont know about him. When his attention is focused on you, he makes you feel like youre the only woman in the world, and when its not, it can be very difficult to be out of his spotlight.

Capgirl: Marker was used because i used a curse word. I was an a-hole to him at the beginning because I honestly thought he was being a player. Never occured to me that he was actually trying to get my attention by offering me things and coming on so strongly.

Well possez..I think he means it then..and well done you..another successfull scorp/cap relationship...

I am no where near that stage yet..its only been 9 months..we fight all the time cos we are both frustrated..but I won't let him control me..he knows that too..Its early days for me and we don't see each other so that makes it worse..but no contact is good..you remain in control. I haven't had those words as such but believe me there has been many others similar...I take it with a pinch of salt..sometimes he gets sooo frustrated because I am like.."yeah yeah whatever, go tell one of your other hoes"..and he is soooo hurt..I don't even realise i am being a cow to him..or whether my comments hurt him..lol..

I just can't be arsed with it..I am like his flippin psychologist!

LWCA wrote: >>Um...Scorpio...it's only Wednesday... ? :-) It's no big deal if you haven't heard from him.

No.. she was venting on me. Interesting, Sag.. that both you and Leo are fire signs. Fire can make water signs boil. But, look sister, water can douse fire. Good luck to ya. CapGirl.. where are you? Earth signs and water signs get along fine.

Sb.. LCWA wasn't giving advice. She was giving her direct opinion saying it was no big deal that I hadn't heard anything since Monday. That's not advice. That's commentary. I simply explained why it is a big deal and referred to earlier posts about the issue which she may not have read. I just re-read my post and I don't see anything wrong with it. I wasn't attacking her. I simply was responding to her, giving my opinion, just like she gave me her opinion.

Sagangel.. I'm not here to fight. Life is too short for that. But I will speak up when I feel it necessary. Your post "No need for such lashing scorp.." Give me a break. Go back and read what I posted to LWCA... if you think that's lashing, you're in for a big surprise when some scorpio lays you out some day. SL and MM.. want to chime in on the Scorpion sting? Bet you ladies didn't think I was doing any lashing, because I wasn't. I was simply responding to LWCA's blatant opinion that a concern of mine was no big deal.

Speak for yourself, Sagangel. I came to find out if anyone else on this planet was having similar difficulties with their Cap partner. Sharing information helps to put everything into perspective. There have been plenty of people on this board who have offered relevant, thoughtful insight that has helped me to better understand the situation I am in and whether or not to stay in it.

I did not come to this board to have someone tell me that my concerns and struggle in dealing with my Cap are, in their opinion, no big deal.

Well actually Scorpio..I don't think she was doing any lashing..She's a good girl..I think she was joking..hence the 😉..Down with the stinger..lol...

I guess I am not that sensitive..I have a blas? attitude towards a lot of things..

So come on ladies lets all make up..

No pain no gain...

Sagangel wrote >>gotta take all the opinions as valuable ones..even if they hurt...they all count...

Opinions are like assholes..everyones got them!

Scorpio

I feel you on all that you are saying, the other ladies just don't understand where you are coming from as a scorpio. (no offense to anyone)

And because I am older and have been where a lot of the ladies are right know, in relations/friendship etc. with men, I just sit back know and read and comment when necessary.

I was on this board commenting once like you frustrated, that the Cap was doing this and done that and a few of the ladies, got under my skin and I did lash out at one of them in particular, behind it and some other stuff.

I find that the ladies that come on this board stressing over ther Capmen, wanting to know if what they are going through is normal, and sometimes it leads to a lot of tension and misunderstanding in words. I don't think anyone person means any harm, but everyone has an opinion, suggestion/advise on this issue that will or will not help or sit well with others.

I personally think that we as women should not tell people what they should do or should not do but give experiences, on the issues, and there strength on how they got through it.

The best suggestion I can say for you is read and read and read past threads. I did that and gain a lot of insight. I got in disputes on values, morals and principle with some of these ladies.

Put your stinger in or keep it out, however you feel comfortable. Because in the long run you will be trying to hold off from stinging the Cap which is one reason why I had to let him go also.

Scropio make you own decision because what ever you choose beit to stay or leave him you have to live with it.

Peace

Holy hell, what's going on here? LOL Scorpio...I'm with ya, in terms of getting upset that there was no response one way or the other to the invite. This is totally typical, and it's going to happen again and again, from my experience.

I am taking on the "Scorpio mentality" myself and had become too "Piscean" towards this situation, as much as I admire Pisces traits. I have started to bang my own head and ask myself WHY do I want this guy still?? He either doesn't have his priorities straight, or has major issues, and why would I want him to call now. He's not reliable, stable or consistent in his behavior and attention, and has little respect for me if he were to come back around YET AGAIN. And why do I want that kind of man, who lacks the basic qualities which I need and respect in a person? That's where I'm going with this for my own situation.

I am done understanding and MAKING EXCUSES FOR BAD BEHAVIOR. That is my new motto: I will not look for an excuse or try to find a reason to explain what is just bad (rude, inconsiderate, socially moronic, player, piggish) behavior. SL and I have had our "words" in the past, but I'm back to being of that same mindset that she's described.

I think back on meeting him and how he was back then... during those first 1-2 months, and I feel like I was really fooled by "a mask". If talking in terms of astrology, it's like had I known then that he was this stick-in-the-mud, unaffected, nonresponsive, workaholic, cold/isolated, CAPRICORN type, I would not have been attracted or interested. But he came off as this gregarious, flirtatious, charming, FUN, and VERY attentive, engaging guy, which in talking astrology terms could have been his Gemini rising/ascendant. Whatever the EXCUSE or reason for the behavior... it is what it IS, and the guy who hooked me is LONG gone and what I'm left with gives little reason to want him any longer.

SCORPIO... if you're seeing these traits now which show disrespect and lack of consideration towards you, leaving you unhappy and a bit self-hating (and it can only get worse if this behavior continues- the self-hatred and feelings of worthlessness), then you really should consider getting over this now. It's harder later.

Good for you CapGirl

TG~ you mean "LWCA", right?

LWCA~ I love that "annoyed" part of your name... I have used that on my a-hole numerous times... telling him: he's annoying... that his fun factor outweighs his annoying qualities... and most recently, that I think he will probably always annoy me but I still adore him. Yea... but annoying has now reached total annihilation... LOL

Aaah...I feel the love back in the room...**group hug**

Lol @ Capgirl and piscean traits..Hun..My pisces friend pined over her cap for 2 years. The truth was she was too weak for him, he run all over her..made her feel worthless..and she allowed him to do so because he was so utterly charming..then when she finally crumpled into a heap of nothingness..she decided to cut him off..and he flipped..went mental at her because for once she called the shots...He made himself feel better by crushing her to death. Good riddance..But this has left her incredibly bitter..If I should even dare mention a cap, you can see the anger in her face..But to be honest as much as I love her, I have never been able to cope with Cancer or Pisces..I find them terribly needy and dependent..and soooooooooooooooo negative..If your not strong/courageous/independent/witty/compassionate/hardworking/loyal/trustworthy I suggest you stay well clear of these folk..

Scorpios are meant to be sensitive..but can't say I am that sensitive..I have my moments but they don't last long..I have a Venus in Sag and I am a freedom lover..relationships restrict my breathing..lol..I want to break freeee...(springs into song and dance).

I love my Scorpio, sun, moon and mercury..Damn I just love being a Scorp..

And LWCA rocks!..

Yea, LWCA is alright... hehe 😉 I kid, I love her posts, she writes very direct, concise and is logical!!

I really do like my Pisces friend... She actually is VERY positive. Don't want to talk about it too much as she's just a cyber-buddy. That's discouraging and disheartening though that your Pisces friend did not end up happily ever after w/ the Cap., MM? I have NO clue what these nutjob Cap. men need... I'm sure it's different for each, but mine has told me that I'm mean, so lately I had tried to be nice and self-deprecating (apologetic) and "nothing doing"... because guess what... it's HIM, and not me. His issues.

Whew... I just told my sweet friend TG, that I just want off this crazy-train, puhleeeeze, lord god, I just want OFF!! LOL

Well LWCA...This venus in Sag description fits me to a T...I am freedom loving..seriously..anything that stops me from doing so..I get all claustrophobic..I tell you what..When I met the cap and he showed signs of developing a long relationship etc..I freaked out..He was showing me too much attention and I was having problems breathing..I was talking to my best friend who is sagitarius..and telling her that I don't know If I want a relationship with him..he seems needy..LMAO!..little did I know. I hope I am not just attracted to the challenge rather than him..I do wonder..lol..for his sake..

But heres the description for you: (don't say I never do anything for you 😉 😛

Venus in Sagittarius makes the affections cheerful, adventurous, free, straightforward, roaming, jovial, humorous, generous, and thoughtful. One often loves philosophy, religion, world travel and politics, outdoor activities, sports, teaching, and higher education. One is often imaginative, visionary, spiritual, and possibly prophetic.

Venus in Sagittarius men and women turn others on with their big smiles and laughs, their jokes, their grand schemes, their dreams, and their friendly, flirtatious behavior. They pride themselves on their open minds, but you may notice they can be judgmental too. They are threatened by inhibitions on the part of their lover, dullness, and emotional overkill. They are restless, and won't put up with lovers who dwell on any one thing. When the going gets tough in their relationship, they have an overwhelming need to run away. Usually this only means getting out and experiencing something new before they come back, but sometimes it can be for good. They are attracted to people in love with life. You don't need to be refined, polished, or graceful to win their favor.
Pleasing Venus in Sagittarius involves allowing them lots of room in the relationship to grow. Avoid getting stuck in a rut, and understand their need to move on. Learn to laugh, but take their rants and raves seriously. Avoid criticizing their beliefs, join them in debates, and philosophize along with them. When they feel the need for more experience, join them! Learn to look past their clumsiness with you and your feelings, and avoid cornering them or forcing them to commit.

My Venus maybe in Sag..but I am extremely loyal and faithful. I wouldn't dream of cheating on anyone..Just haven't got it in me to do so..Thats my Scorpio loyality and I do believe Cappies are the same as us Scorpios when it comes to loyality.

LWCA~ thanks for that and the other compliment in SL's thread... I do think he's intimidated by me- my personality (projected confidence and strength) and my age/career/status. I've tried to soften up and show that side but really now at this late stage, I can't be worrying and attending to his insecurities continuously. It's too draining and the benefits/payoff have just not made it worthwhile. Or... hey... maybe... he's just not all that into me, too... Either way, I'm not winning here, so... onwards. Thank you though for your sweet words. 😉 I hope your little monster-head finds his phone again soon! LOL

I have just come back from my friends pre-wedding party, I have been talking to a friend of his who is also a cap. Let me tell you that I caught his eye tonight..he was very shy towards me. I have known him 4 months and the fact that he is my friends friend helps. What a refreshing change from your usual cap doom & gloom..this guy is so much fun and the most luscious lips!..lol..Nice..2 caps..lovely jubly..

i think there should be a board exclusively for men to ask questions about women, and a board exclusively for women to ask questions about men. not these that pin all the character problems on certain signs, because everything i hear regarding certain traits on each board can usually be put in just a man or woman catagory. i don't mean get rid of these, they do help, but this stereotyping of a cap is only this way, or a scorp is only that way, is just not true. i read many things that are directed to cap men, that i have had the same problems with scorps, tauruses or cancers, etc. does anyone else think that would be a good thing?

Poofing = commitment phobe/insecurity

You got that right, MM!! Yea- some of what I've been preaching is believed by others as well! 😉