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The Obamas. He's Leo she's Capricorn.

But that's switched.
That's right, AriElla7,

But in my case, what I find funny is that they define Leo as a masculine sign and Capricorn as a feminine sign. Sometimes when he makes no move and I do all the talking or acting, I'm made to wonder if the roles are reversed and if I'm playing the male role! Lol! 😉
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The Obamas. He's Leo she's Capricorn.

But that's switched.
That's right, AriElla7,

But in my case, what I find funny is that they define Leo as a masculine sign and Capricorn as a feminine sign. Sometimes when he makes no move and I do all the talking or acting, I'm made to wonder if the roles are reversed and if I'm playing the male role! Lol! 😉
Oh! Now that you mentioned that @Greentea posted a great video describing us. You should check it out...the threads on the cap board if I find the link I'll post it
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I'm more into words than videos, dear. Could you describe the gist in words?
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Sounds positive if your communication is on the right track! Just reflecting, I dont usually hv such talks.....till in a stable relationship.....dunno y i m jitterish this time round
Being open and honest helped. All I've really said is, "I don't think you like me as much as I like you. I don't want to introduce you to my friends because our relationship isn't serious and it might not last. I don't want to be friends if we stop dating" I really think this got him thinking. And that's what you want men to do... Is think. That's what led to deep positive conversations. It's possible these men are afraid to share their feelings until they know ours.

Why do you feel jitterish? Are you scared? I was!

Ps. The things I said to him were not all in one day. It's spaced out. You don't want a guy to think you're not interested... Especially if you are! But you have to put your foot down and tell him where you actually stand. And also, you can't keep changing your mind because these guys won't believe you're serious.
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Don't people also withdraw when they don't want to be in a relationship?
Depends. Did you watch the video or only read my post?
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Yes. It seems like the word traditional comes up a lot!

But still regardless of them shutting down when they like you, it's still possible for a person to shut down because they don't like you. When I don't like someone I slowly talk to them less and less. I don't think we can based everything based on our signs.
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Don't people also withdraw when they don't want to be in a relationship?
Depends. Did you watch the video or only read my post?
Yes. It seems like the word traditional comes up a lot!

But still regardless of them shutting down when they like you, it's still possible for a person to shut down because they don't like you. When I don't like someone I slowly talk to them less and less. I don't think we can based everything based on our signs.

Why fade out instead of just ending?

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Because I get emotionally attached and it's easier for me to gradually let go then go cold turkey. It's usually when I'm unsure what I want as well
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The Obamas. He's Leo she's Capricorn.

But that's switched.
That's right, AriElla7,

But in my case, what I find funny is that they define Leo as a masculine sign and Capricorn as a feminine sign. Sometimes when he makes no move and I do all the talking or acting, I'm made to wonder if the roles are reversed and if I'm playing the male role! Lol! 😉
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I'm a bit different, maybe because I have both.

Also this-

http://darkstarastrology.com/moon-sextile-saturn/
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Don't people also withdraw when they don't want to be in a relationship?
Depends. Did you watch the video or only read my post?
Yes. It seems like the word traditional comes up a lot!

But still regardless of them shutting down when they like you, it's still possible for a person to shut down because they don't like you. When I don't like someone I slowly talk to them less and less. I don't think we can based everything based on our signs.

Why fade out instead of just ending?


Because I get emotionally attached and it's easier for me to gradually let go then go cold turkey. It's usually when I'm unsure what I want as well



Ok I don't disagree with your original post. What I will say is I look at things from my side & theirs, so I'm not going to string anyone along or slow fade anyone I have become emotionally attached to because it's unfair.

I will end it as easy on both of us as possible & provide a reason why if they want to know. If I'm confused I can verbalize that to him as well...might not be coherent, still comes out at some point none the less.

As a cap I have no problem going cold turkey with someone I'm not interested in, that's the difference. I yry to use that as a last resort. If I don't want to be in a relationship I will tell him, if I do I will tell him. If I need to sort myself I will tell him.

To me there is a difference in withdrawal & uninterest

If I withdrawal, I come back, I can still be reached, I'm still responding

If I'm uninterested...indifference & silence, I will not reach out, may respond most likely will not, will not make time to see you
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That's completely fine! I think everyone handles things differently and that's ok 100% . but to be very honest, I want to give inlovewithlife hope. I want to be positive and supportive, but I also want to be realistic. At this point in time, it doesn't look good 😢 of course there are many factors that make me believe this. So that's why I'm saying the distant activity might have to do with him slowly letting go
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You are in denial. Complete denial.

You're still high and euphoric over him but in time you will crash and you will be forced to get into reality.

What you fail to understand and/or realize is it's your needs and your wants that is pushing a relationship phobic man AWAY from you. You are the primary reason and cause why this man is running from you. Your behavior, how you behave, your deep need for his approval and acceptance and understanding of you is causing this man deep ANXIETY which is one reason why he's gone.

Your REFUSAL to dissect his flaw in relationship to you is your downfall. Your lack of understanding/ignorance of what this phobia is and how to not trigger the phobia is one of the main reasons he's fighting with you, baiting you to fight with him and running away.

The "something" that is getting in the way is YOU and your lack of understanding of his phobia. His anxiety is so great that no amount of loving you, caring for you will make him stop being fearful, stop the running and the fighting.

Cp men tend to be gorgeous, strong, powerful, charming, full of excitement, they can be exhilarating and fun to be with, sexually arousing. The CP man has skillfully perfected the perfect persona that most women fall for so getting a woman has never been his issue. He possesses many of the traits that we women love and adore which is why these men never have a problem meeting women but they do have a problem keeping and maintaining the requirements needed hold up a real relationship.

"For most people, relationships are fairly easy things. They come as naturally to life as breathing or making a meal.

For some, however, relationships are not so easy. In fact, they present such a challenge to the individual, that a person can be said to have relationship anxiety, a fear of relationships, or suffer from “commitment phobia.”

Commitment issues in relationships are nothing new. But our understanding of how the fear of commitment for some people can be paralyzing has increased. And while you won’t find “commitment phobia” in any diagnostic manual, it is a very real experience of anxiety and fear.

Here’s the lowdown on commitment phobia and relationship anxiety.

People who have commitment issues, commitment phobia or relationship anxiety (I’ll use these terms interchangeably) generally have a serious problem in staying in a relationship for the long-term. While they still experience love like anyone else, the feelings can be more intense and scary than they are for most people. These feelings drive increased anxiety, which builds upon itself and snowballs as the relationship progresses — and the expectation of a commitment looms larger."

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2015/01/08/what-is-commitment-phobia-relationship-anxie
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Everyone has their own dating standards. So just come up with a list of things you can live with & things you won’t tolerate for each potential relationship. What's important to me might not be important to you & vice versa
That's exactly what I'm planning to do - discuss our wants, needs, expectations, plans, dreams, and comforts.

But this time, I don't wanna goof it up again by having this important discussion over text. This is my first experience in LDR. So we've gotta meet and spend solid time with each other to discuss things out. Hope things will soon be okay!
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@That's exactly what I'm planning to do - discuss our wants, needs, expectations, plans, dreams, and comforts.

And you won't hear from him for weeks after this kind of discussion. He may just decide to disappear for good.

Your failure to understand that these kind of discussions is causing the deep anxiety he's feeling which causes the disappearing acts to continue is part of the problem.

He's disappearing for days and maybe weeks at a time because it's his way of slowing you down, hoping you'll get off the "discuss us" train and just relax and go with the flow, have fun, and let him decide where the chips will fall.

Do yourself a huge big favor. Don't discuss this with a man that has admitted to being relationship phobic unless you're okay with losing him.

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Tiki33,

I understand that you know a lot. Giving suggestions and sound advice is one thing; compelling/forcing someone (either directly or indirectly) to accept that is something else.

Have you heard of the saying, "It is not what you say that always matters; it is how you say that really matters."

I am a lover of psychology. I find analyzing and studying various personalities very interesting. No, I don't do this with all. I am not judgmental with friends. But when some people try various means to grab my attention, I do take notice. Then I study and analyze. It is interesting.

"Lover of Psychology? You observe, study, and analyze various personalities? LOL! Then why are you so confused in his case? You're funny, girl!" You may want to mock and laugh. But psychology has answers for those questions, too. (I don't want to get into that now.)

Let me guess. You are not happy with the ratio of the attention you get and the attention you want? So you think the more assertive you are, the more people will listen to you? The louder the better? Not to worry, dear. That is not very uncommon. This could be a sign of low self-esteem. This may seem to be not a big issue. But this can and will affect multiple areas of life, causing more problems everyday. You better work on it. Of course, that is a mere suggestion, my humble opinion.

You do not want to accept this? Can I say, "You are in denial"? 🙂
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Don't people also withdraw when they don't want to be in a relationship?
Depends. Did you watch the video or only read my post?
Yes. It seems like the word traditional comes up a lot!

But still regardless of them shutting down when they like you, it's still possible for a person to shut down because they don't like you. When I don't like someone I slowly talk to them less and less. I don't think we can based everything based on our signs.

Why fade out instead of just ending?


Because I get emotionally attached and it's easier for me to gradually let go then go cold turkey. It's usually when I'm unsure what I want as well



Ok I don't disagree with your original post. What I will say is I look at things from my side & theirs, so I'm not going to string anyone along or slow fade anyone I have become emotionally attached to because it's unfair.

I will end it as easy on both of us as possible & provide a reason why if they want to know. If I'm confused I can verbalize that to him as well...might not be coherent, still comes out at some point none the less.

As a cap I have no problem going cold turkey with someone I'm not interested in, that's the difference. I yry to use that as a last resort. If I don't want to be in a relationship I will tell him, if I do I will tell him. If I need to sort myself I will tell him.

To me there is a difference in withdrawal & uninterest

If I withdrawal, I come back, I can still be reached, I'm still responding

If I'm uninterested...indifference & silence, I will not reach out, may respond most likely will not, will not make time to see you
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Thank you for explaining the difference to me, dear. I guess I kind of understand things better now.
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Dear Pinkbird03,

First of all, thank you for your concern, dear. That's really sweet of you to think for/of me and try to help me understand reality, sweetheart.

I used to have the same/similar questions running in my mind every time there occurs a confusion and he becomes 'busy' or goes MIA! I used to ask myself, "So what does his silence mean THIS time?"

Also I believe in not hiding your true feelings from your partner, so I would ask him this question. At times, I'd receive a positive response (as though he was waiting for me/ he was shy to initiate the chat). But there have also been times when I'd receive cold responses then and not apologies but sweet messages the next day. Sometimes, he'd also get scared/feel pressurized when I say something emotional. He's even not responded to an ILY once. When I decide not to talk to him, he'd always come back.

You can imagine how confusing the whole thing, hiding his true feelings, gets, right?

I've decided to follow the good old rule - "hope for the best; be prepared for the worst". 🙂
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The Obamas. He's Leo she's Capricorn.

But that's switched.
That's right, AriElla7,

But in my case, what I find funny is that they define Leo as a masculine sign and Capricorn as a feminine sign. Sometimes when he makes no move and I do all the talking or acting, I'm made to wonder if the roles are reversed and if I'm playing the male role! Lol! 😉
I'm a bit different, maybe because I have both.

Also this-

http://darkstarastrology.com/moon-sextile-saturn/
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Both, eh? So are you compatible with yourself? 😉

Just kidding!
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Sounds positive if your communication is on the right track! Just reflecting, I dont usually hv such talks.....till in a stable relationship.....dunno y i m jitterish this time round
Being open and honest helped. All I've really said is, "I don't think you like me as much as I like you. I don't want to introduce you to my friends because our relationship isn't serious and it might not last. I don't want to be friends if we stop dating" I really think this got him thinking. And that's what you want men to do... Is think. That's what led to deep positive conversations. It's possible these men are afraid to share their feelings until they know ours.

Why do you feel jitterish? Are you scared? I was!

Ps. The things I said to him were not all in one day. It's spaced out. You don't want a guy to think you're not interested... Especially if you are! But you have to put your foot down and tell him where you actually stand. And also, you can't keep changing your mind because these guys won't believe you're serious.

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I have been trying that....end of first mth i told him i dont think u r looking for something serious, i need to walk away. He asked me y, i said i want something more, not immediately but in the future. He asked me but dont u want to see me anymore, i said i do want to see u....

End of 2nd mth i asked him if he is seeing anyone else, he says he gives me all his spare time after work.....

End of 3rd mth, the part where i drunk text. I think it was along the lines i m not and dont want to be a fwb.....he gave me a ? emoticon, and cause i dont exactly rem what i say, i told him to ignore that.

On between tht, once every 3-4 wks i will tell him i miss him. Sometimes he sends me the "?" emoticon. Then i think he said he misses me twice.....

I dunno if he is really into me thus feeling jitterish. Cause i feel like i m falling. We are intimate maybe 70% of the time and we are always extremely passionate. Even when out for a drink or dinner, he always kisses me passionately.....in that moment everything feels right. But after that somehow he doesnt seem as into me, ie the texting part seems less....
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Caps and Leo love in different style s.....I believe a lot of compromise is required
That's right. First we've to come out of ourselves to understand the other better. Then compromising will happen naturally, I believe.

Do check out the last poem I wrote for him just an hour ago. Shared the link in my last post, I guess. Lol, that fellow, he's .... Grrr...!!!
Lol! U know what, most Caps know we ourselves are difficult people, but we cant help it. We each have our own principals and are hardass abt it. I seriously dunno how much a Cap is willing to bend over backwards unless the Cap is seriously in love....
Think no less of a Lion's pride, dearie. My favourite sayings - "A king only bows to his queen"; "A Lioness is never submissive; she merely let's you be king for as long as it pleases her."

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Mmmmm thats the part abt compromising. I can tell u now that after my countless dating experience, i m not going to be hardass abt my pride. Principals yes i cant change myself to accomodate him, but things that i dont like i can voice out but dont expect him to change. If i cant accept that i just have to walk away.

I spent most of my relationships telling my partner what i do not like and expecting them to chg. When they dont i get upset and breakup with them. Then again maybe i dont love them as much. A hard fall with one of my Cap ex made me realise that i dont want that anymore. I can look past wht i not like abt him and let him be him. If i want to fall in love, he is the whole package. Men does the same for us when they fall in love and yet we never do that and always expects more....
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#foreverloveme,

I watched the video. That kind of summarizes almost all articles that I've read about Cap men. Thank you for sharing that with me.

'Reliable', 'dependable', 'persevering' - words I liked.

'Materialistic'— I'm so not that!

Something like 'They take a long time, are very observant, and tend to test their partners'? - For someone like me, testing us will be regarded as an insult. "So you don't trust me?" Loooooong time = what many years? Hmph! You're bad, Cappy! Don't talk to me!

Something like 'they will be happy with women who can financially support/benefit them' ? (Sorry, I don't remember the exact words). - Money making has never been in my list of goals! I will any day be happy with enough money for basic needs and savings, and I'd like to spend/devote more of my time to satisfy my passion.

Mixed signals/ Hide their feelings?- Tiring! Exhausting!

'Security' - Look at me in the eye; tell me you are ready to commit, and then no force can take me away from you. That much I can guarantee.

I guess now I'm kinda used to that, but I'm not sure.

I wonder what made him like me in the first place, when we're so opposite!

#Pinkbird03 - phew!
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Caps and Leo love in different style s.....I believe a lot of compromise is required
That's right. First we've to come out of ourselves to understand the other better. Then compromising will happen naturally, I believe.

Do check out the last poem I wrote for him just an hour ago. Shared the link in my last post, I guess. Lol, that fellow, he's .... Grrr...!!!
Lol! U know what, most Caps know we ourselves are difficult people, but we cant help it. We each have our own principals and are hardass abt it. I seriously dunno how much a Cap is willing to bend over backwards unless the Cap is seriously in love....
Think no less of a Lion's pride, dearie. My favourite sayings - "A king only bows to his queen"; "A Lioness is never submissive; she merely let's you be king for as long as it pleases her."

😄
Mmmmm thats the part abt compromising. I can tell u now that after my countless dating experience, i m not going to be hardass abt my pride. Principals yes i cant change myself to accomodate him, but things that i dont like i can voice out but dont expect him to change. If i cant accept that i just have to walk away.

I spent most of my relationships telling my partner what i do not like and expecting them to chg. When they dont i get upset and breakup with them. Then again maybe i dont love them as much. A hard fall with one of my Cap ex made me realise that i dont want that anymore. I can look past wht i not like abt him and let him be him. If i want to fall in love, he is the whole package. Men does the same for us when they fall in love and yet we never do that and always expects more....
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I agree, Jalent99, with what you said about not expecting someone to change. Easier said than done, though. All I want is this: It should all be mutual.
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Sounds positive if your communication is on the right track! Just reflecting, I dont usually hv such talks.....till in a stable relationship.....dunno y i m jitterish this time round
Being open and honest helped. All I've really said is, "I don't think you like me as much as I like you. I don't want to introduce you to my friends because our relationship isn't serious and it might not last. I don't want to be friends if we stop dating" I really think this got him thinking. And that's what you want men to do... Is think. That's what led to deep positive conversations. It's possible these men are afraid to share their feelings until they know ours.

Why do you feel jitterish? Are you scared? I was!

Ps. The things I said to him were not all in one day. It's spaced out. You don't want a guy to think you're not interested... Especially if you are! But you have to put your foot down and tell him where you actually stand. And also, you can't keep changing your mind because these guys won't believe you're serious.


I have been trying that....end of first mth i told him i dont think u r looking for something serious, i need to walk away. He asked me y, i said i want something more, not immediately but in the future. He asked me but dont u want to see me anymore, i said i do want to see u....

End of 2nd mth i asked him if he is seeing anyone else, he says he gives me all his spare time after work.....

End of 3rd mth, the part where i drunk text. I think it was along the lines i m not and dont want to be a fwb.....he gave me a ? emoticon, and cause i dont exactly rem what i say, i told him to ignore that.

On between tht, once every 3-4 wks i will tell him i miss him. Sometimes he sends me the "?" emoticon. Then i think he said he misses me twice.....

I dunno if he is really into me thus feeling jitterish. Cause i feel like i m falling. We are intimate maybe 70% of the time and we are always extremely passionate. Even when out for a drink or dinner, he always kisses me passionately.....in that moment everything feels right. But after that somehow he doesnt seem as into me, ie the texting part seems less....

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Hahaha! No, pls don't feel offended; I'm not laughing at you, dear. I've come to stage where I feel almost all women who fall in love with Cap men seem to have the same set of problems; it's like I'm reading the same story over and over again!

I've experienced almost the same - the rare kiss emoticon, even rarer heart, 1 or 2 I miss you texts, we feel so passionately in love; everything seems to be fine/awesome when we meet up, but once we begin texting, mixed signals again!
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In a Cap shoes, I think u come across as too strong. In the Obama-s relationship, that works as Cap women like their men to be stronger than them.....we like partners we can look up to, and we work hard to run along the same line.....

In your case, Cap men has it in him to look after his women, family. U being headstrong might go down the wrong way, they need someone independent yes, but someone patient with them too. Leos are fire sign and they are fast and passionate, Caps are earth, we are probably the slowest in speed compared to the other elements.

Our difference, if u look at all your posts, u r quick to say u want to walkaway if he doesnt do something. But if u look at mine, i never say i want to walk away when he doesnt msg, give me assurance etc.....i can wait, just want to know i m not being played.

Thats what he really needs from u. Patience to let him take the drivers seat, Cap men doesnt like women dictating them.....
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Jalent99,

1. When I commented on almost all women in love with a Cap facing more or less the same situations, I only talked about the similarities there. Otherwise each woman's approach/response is different from others'. I agree.

2. You're talking about what he needs from me. Patience. I've to Change/adapt myself there.

I wish someone would tell him or he would understand what I need from him - spending some more time on this whole thing and deciding a bit sooner.

We have to meet half way, right? That's how it works for two people. Not fair otherwise.

3. You stated about the Cap view of things and the Obamas.

Well, we Leos look for an equal. Neither should dominate the other. Neither should be submissive. Equal, if not always, at least in important areas in life, most of the time.
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Jalent99,

1. When I commented on almost all women in love with a Cap facing more or less the same situations, I only talked about the similarities there. Otherwise each woman's approach/response is different from others'. I agree.

2. You're talking about what he needs from me. Patience. I've to Change/adapt myself there.

I wish someone would tell him or he would understand what I need from him - spending some more time on this whole thing and deciding a bit sooner.

We have to meet half way, right? That's how it works for two people. Not fair otherwise.

3. You stated about the Cap view of things and the Obamas.

Well, we Leos look for an equal. Neither should dominate the other. Neither should be submissive. Equal, if not always, at least in important areas in life, most of the time.
Lol i wish someone would tell my Cap too, decide on how he feels cause i dont want to be strung along.....

i dont think u will get the halfway mark for now, we have to come to our own realization, nobody can push us to compromise.....the more u try to talk me into do something, the more I might reject what u say ?

Mmm dunno abt the rest of the Caps, but I always believe in some levels of inequality ? I want a partner stronger than me for when i need a shoulder to rely on.....more emotional and physical, when i m tired from work etc
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Lol, Jalent99, when you said 'inequality', I thought you'd want it the other way. 😉

Well, I want respect, love, care, and understanding to be mutual.

The halfway thing kinda happens now and then, in bits and pieces. Both of us have let go of our pride to break the silence a few times. He has shown a few changes, some of them mean a lot to me. For example, I hate the use of cuss words; he'd try his best to avoid them while chatting with me. He hates being called any cute pet names, so I gave that up. I thought (I'm positive 90% of the time) compromise would slowly happen. But then, a lot of things happened repeatedly (passionate while in person and cold at texting, etc.) And made it so confusing.

I'm ready for anything, dearie - if it's a yes, we'll meet half way, if not, let go!
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I just don't know anymore ladies. I think we all just want more attention that doesn't completely revolve around their life. Our time is valuable too ya know... I turned my cap down tonight because it was 8:00 pm when he was finally open to do something. I was day drinking and in the hot sun all day. By that time, i already ate, was too tired, looked like a mess, and wasn't in the mood. I must say i was surprised by his responses to my excuses.

Already ate/too tired- lets go to the movies instead

Look like a mess- a hot mess no doubt! (He doesn't flirt too much with words normally)

Then he said ok, I'll talk to you tomorrow! (Never shows that much interest)

It's funny how he tries so much more lately when I dont care as much!! I'm sure he didn't like being the one to be cancelled on for a change lol

But, Why the heck is this? Why do some men try harder when a woman stops showing so much interest? Do caps like to chase?
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@pinkbird03,

There have been times when too much all this would make me sick, literally. I've never understood... Once we had an argument over a silly issue during the day. That evening, he found time to extend that argument, but that was one of my really bad days. I was missing my mom terribly (she is no more). I told him that I was crying, and he continued arguing saying that what I did was wrong. When I asked him if that's how he'd react, he said that I told him all that only later (pls note, even after I told him my problem, he went on till I confronted him). Even then, he chose to defend himself (Not comfort me) and he left with saying a sorry.

I still can't believe that. I mean, he won't even be there for me when we're really down? He left me to cry over my mom.

Cycles of hot and cold acts followed. But like I said, in person, his touches reveal his love!

Is it wrong to expect the person you love to be there for you during your bad days? Or am I not understanding enough?
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I just don't know anymore ladies. I think we all just want more attention that doesn't completely revolve around their life. Our time is valuable too ya know... I turned my cap down tonight because it was 8:00 pm when he was finally open to do something. I was day drinking and in the hot sun all day. By that time, i already ate, was too tired, looked like a mess, and wasn't in the mood. I must say i was surprised by his responses to my excuses.

Already ate/too tired- lets go to the movies instead

Look like a mess- a hot mess no doubt! (He doesn't flirt too much with words normally)

Then he said ok, I'll talk to you tomorrow! (Never shows that much interest)

It's funny how he tries so much more lately when I dont care as much!! I'm sure he didn't like being the one to be cancelled on for a change lol

But, Why the heck is this? Why do some men try harder when a woman stops showing so much interest? Do caps like to chase?
I feel likewise, pinkbird03! "My time is equally valuable". Once after 2 or 3 of his plans to come to my place to meet me didn't work out, he suddenly grow so close after a long break.

Then he said that he was gonna come to my place by the end of next month, but it was around the same time that 3 of my friends had planned to come meet me, too. I told him this, and he stopped planning and turned cold!

A day or two later, he'd even blocked me on FB. Following this, I began withdrawing and Cycles again!
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There have been times when too much all this would make me sick, literally. I've never understood... Once we had an argument over a silly issue during the day. That evening, he found time to extend that argument, but that was one of my really bad days. I was missing my mom terribly (she is no more). I told him that I was crying, and he continued arguing saying that what I did was wrong. When I asked him if that's how he'd react, he said that I told him all that only later (pls note, even after I told him my problem, he went on till I confronted him). Even then, he chose to defend himself (Not comfort me) and he left with saying a sorry.

I still can't believe that. I mean, he won't even be there for me when we're really down? He left me to cry over my mom.

Cycles of hot and cold acts followed. But like I said, in person, his touches reveal his love!

Is it wrong to expect the person you love to be there for you during your bad days? Or am I not understanding enough?
To answer your question no. it's not wrong to expect him to be there for you during bad days.

I get physically sick as well. That is something I would suggest working on within yourself
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Thank you, dear. Generally I don't complain till things really bad. You're right. These days, I've decided to not take anything negative to him as long as it involves him, too. This is kind of nice, too.
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LOL, my gallery is full of such positive quotes that help a person realize when to walk away and do just that. When I give up all my emotions and try to overcome my attachment, when I feel like a creature that can only think with its head bcoz it has no heart, (is he able to sense that somehow—) he'd come saying something sweet.

Then there's no way I can't reply. I have to. Cycles.

But the best thing about all this is that I've learnt a few really valuable lessons.
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I have been trying that....end of first mth i told him i dont think u r looking for something serious, i need to walk away. He asked me y, i said i want something more, not immediately but in the future. He asked me but dont u want to see me anymore, i said i do want to see u....

End of 2nd mth i asked him if he is seeing anyone else, he says he gives me all his spare time after work.....

End of 3rd mth, the part where i drunk text. I think it was along the lines i m not and dont want to be a fwb.....he gave me a ? emoticon, and cause i dont exactly rem what i say, i told him to ignore that.

On between tht, once every 3-4 wks i will tell him i miss him. Sometimes he sends me the "?" emoticon. Then i think he said he misses me twice.....

I dunno if he is really into me thus feeling jitterish. Cause i feel like i m falling. We are intimate maybe 70% of the time and we are always extremely passionate. Even when out for a drink or dinner, he always kisses me passionately.....in that moment everything feels right. But after that somehow he doesnt seem as into me, ie the texting part seems less....



Why are you questioning his interest again? 😕

1. He's saying it....Caps don't discuss feelings, an I miss you...I'm sure he meant it

2. I know how to be passionate & normal. When I don't like someone they receive normal. Passionate is for those that I *cough* want to get hooked...I mean the ones I like lol 😄

3. As a cap woman, I don't like talking on the phone, texting...I said this before fuck verbal communication. Let me see you & touch you. Now throw in the man part & I'm sure it's worst than me in th communication department

That's why I say watch the time he gives you, spends with you, actions not the words. Is he still coming to meet me in person? If you are spending time in person he's interested otherwise he would not make time. If it's just sex, no words would be there period don't forget the honest part.

I'm not investing 3 months of my time into someone I'm just stringing along or only halfway interested in. Time is money. If I'm not interested in someone I don't keep having sex with them either
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Yes totally understand that....repeating the story for Pinkbird ?

I m waiting ?
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Sounds positive if your communication is on the right track! Just reflecting, I dont usually hv such talks.....till in a stable relationship.....dunno y i m jitterish this time round
Being open and honest helped. All I've really said is, "I don't think you like me as much as I like you. I don't want to introduce you to my friends because our relationship isn't serious and it might not last. I don't want to be friends if we stop dating" I really think this got him thinking. And that's what you want men to do... Is think. That's what led to deep positive conversations. It's possible these men are afraid to share their feelings until they know ours.

Why do you feel jitterish? Are you scared? I was!

Ps. The things I said to him were not all in one day. It's spaced out. You don't want a guy to think you're not interested... Especially if you are! But you have to put your foot down and tell him where you actually stand. And also, you can't keep changing your mind because these guys won't believe you're serious.


I have been trying that....end of first mth i told him i dont think u r looking for something serious, i need to walk away. He asked me y, i said i want something more, not immediately but in the future. He asked me but dont u want to see me anymore, i said i do want to see u....

End of 2nd mth i asked him if he is seeing anyone else, he says he gives me all his spare time after work.....

End of 3rd mth, the part where i drunk text. I think it was along the lines i m not and dont want to be a fwb.....he gave me a ? emoticon, and cause i dont exactly rem what i say, i told him to ignore that.

On between tht, once every 3-4 wks i will tell him i miss him. Sometimes he sends me the "?" emoticon. Then i think he said he misses me twice.....

I dunno if he is really into me thus feeling jitterish. Cause i feel like i m falling. We are intimate maybe 70% of the time and we are always extremely passionate. Even when out for a drink or dinner, he always kisses me passionately.....in that moment everything feels right. But after that somehow he doesnt seem as into me, ie the texting part seems less....




On between tht, once every 3-4 wks i will tell him i miss him. Sometimes he sends me the "?" emoticon. Then i think he said he misses me twice.....

I dunno if he is really into me thus feeling jitterish. Cause i feel like i m falling. We are intimate maybe 70% of the time and we are always extremely passionate. Even when out for a drink or dinner, he always kisses me passionately.....in that moment everything feels right. But after that somehow he doesnt seem as into me, ie the texting part seems less....

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I think he sounds very into you. How much do see him and how much do you want to see him? I have an idea of what you could possibly say to him. Something I'm probably going to say soon.
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There is this site called compatiability astrology or something like that (just Google experience with cap male and Leo female) those people tell from personal experience and its ALWAYS accurate. I'm a Gemini female that use to date a Capricorn. Most the people stated the attraction was everlasting but the relationship didn't work out because of too many difference . Me and my cap went through most of the things the commenters were describing and even ended up breaking up. But attraction everlasting (but he has a gf now ).
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There is this site called compatiability astrology or something like that (just Google experience with cap male and Leo female) those people tell from personal experience and its ALWAYS accurate. I'm a Gemini female that use to date a Capricorn. Most the people stated the attraction was everlasting but the relationship didn't work out because of too many difference . Me and my cap went through most of the things the commenters were describing and even ended up breaking up. But attraction everlasting (but he has a gf now ).
Thank you, honeyK! I've read most of that. Like you said, for Leo and Cap too there are many differences. And reading such stuff makes things more confusing! 😉
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Sorry I screwed that up with the quotes mine is the last paragraph sorry!


Last week i saw him twice, mon evening then fri evening. But both were just 1-2hrs for a drink and a catchup....this week once, last night. He worked till after 9 tues, wanted to meet wed but he msged to say he is still at work ard 9....then finally saw him at 10 last night. He went away for work this weekend. Last weekend he was at a party sat and home sun. I would love to be able to see him for a weekend date once every few weeks if possible, he seems to have too many other activities and friends to do that....

Ok the miss me part he said it twice in 3+mths, ? Is really an occasional thing....once every few wks.....i cant feel that he is into me, probably cause he used to msg me more, but now he doesnt do it everyday.....not expecting a lot, 2-3 msgs would be great

What r u planning to say?
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Girls, all this is making me go crazy! Lol! Discussing about a male Cap's ways and seeing so many similar occurrences in many other girls' life too, unconsciously I took a trip to the past. That reminded me of all the times he's been so sweet and gentlemanly.

Also, I went back to seeing some of the selfies which he used to send me during the earlier stages and read his poems, too, the ones he wrote for me when things were going really good.

Now I guess I kinda miss him. Something tells me that he misses me, too. No update on his blog for a week now, so I don't know...

Phew! Dear #foreverloveme, there can't be a more sensible advice than what you told me, to wait until my birthday. But my birthday is two whole weeks away! Silly me!
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Sorry I screwed that up with the quotes mine is the last paragraph sorry!


Last week i saw him twice, mon evening then fri evening. But both were just 1-2hrs for a drink and a catchup....this week once, last night. He worked till after 9 tues, wanted to meet wed but he msged to say he is still at work ard 9....then finally saw him at 10 last night. He went away for work this weekend. Last weekend he was at a party sat and home sun. I would love to be able to see him for a weekend date once every few weeks if possible, he seems to have too many other activities and friends to do that....

Ok the miss me part he said it twice in 3+mths, ? Is really an occasional thing....once every few wks.....i cant feel that he is into me, probably cause he used to msg me more, but now he doesnt do it everyday.....not expecting a lot, 2-3 msgs would be great

What r u planning to say?

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I know what you mean about the weekend. They are always too busy. Have you tried asking him to do something on a Saturday? You see him a lot more than I see my guy. Ive only seen mine four times since like June 1st. (I met him online in April) On July 31st, I moved a mile away from him. We were only 20 minutes apart before. I recently told him I was losing feelings because there's a disconnect and he said that me moving would make things easier. I told him I would give the relationship a little longer. The last time I saw him was July 20th. If I don't start seeing him more, I will eventually say... "We obviously want two different things. I want a relationship, and you want a once-a-2-week thing. Unless you’re willing to commit to me and spend more time together, I can’t keep going down this path."

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Girls, all this is making me go crazy! Lol! Discussing about a male Cap's ways and seeing so many similar occurrences in many other girls' life too, unconsciously I took a trip to the past. That reminded me of all the times he's been so sweet and gentlemanly.

Also, I went back to seeing some of the selfies which he used to send me during the earlier stages and read his poems, too, the ones he wrote for me when things were going really good.

Now I guess I kinda miss him. Something tells me that he misses me, too. No update on his blog for a week now, so I don't know...

Phew! Dear #foreverloveme, there can't be a more sensible advice than what you told me, to wait until my birthday. But my birthday is two whole weeks away! Silly me!
Of course you're missing the good moments 🙂 but how many cycles can you take girl!?
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Sorry I screwed that up with the quotes mine is the last paragraph sorry!


Last week i saw him twice, mon evening then fri evening. But both were just 1-2hrs for a drink and a catchup....this week once, last night. He worked till after 9 tues, wanted to meet wed but he msged to say he is still at work ard 9....then finally saw him at 10 last night. He went away for work this weekend. Last weekend he was at a party sat and home sun. I would love to be able to see him for a weekend date once every few weeks if possible, he seems to have too many other activities and friends to do that....

Ok the miss me part he said it twice in 3+mths, ? Is really an occasional thing....once every few wks.....i cant feel that he is into me, probably cause he used to msg me more, but now he doesnt do it everyday.....not expecting a lot, 2-3 msgs would be great

What r u planning to say?


I know what you mean about the weekend. They are always too busy. Have you tried asking him to do something on a Saturday? You see him a lot more than I see my guy. Ive only seen mine four times since like June 1st. (I met him online in April) On July 31st, I moved a mile away from him. We were only 20 minutes apart before. I recently told him I was losing feelings because there's a disconnect and he said that me moving would make things easier. I told him I would give the relationship a little longer. The last time I saw him was July 20th. If I don't start seeing him more, I will eventually say... "We obviously want two different things. I want a relationship, and you want a once-a-2-week thing. Unless you’re willing to commit to me and spend more time together, I can’t keep going down this path."



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I dont know where mine is heading.....this meeting less started happening recently? Well u have been with him twice the amount of time compared to mine....maybe u can share with me, did he used to msg more and less now, meet more and less now?

How long do men need to decide on a r/s? My virgo and aquarius friends tells me 4-6mths. When I dated a pisces he wanted a r/s immediately despite us not knowing each other well.....for me its usually 3-6mths too. Anything more I dont think I m that into the person in the first place.

Someone mentioned in previous posts about fading out. I fade out with some other guys I dated, start replying slowly, am too busy to meet then eventually he is out of my life. Why do I do that? Cause they never said they wanted something more and since its just going out, I didnt feel a need to give them "an ans"....
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Girls, all this is making me go crazy! Lol! Discussing about a male Cap's ways and seeing so many similar occurrences in many other girls' life too, unconsciously I took a trip to the past. That reminded me of all the times he's been so sweet and gentlemanly.

Also, I went back to seeing some of the selfies which he used to send me during the earlier stages and read his poems, too, the ones he wrote for me when things were going really good.

Now I guess I kinda miss him. Something tells me that he misses me, too. No update on his blog for a week now, so I don't know...

Phew! Dear #foreverloveme, there can't be a more sensible advice than what you told me, to wait until my birthday. But my birthday is two whole weeks away! Silly me!
Of course you're missing the good moments 🙂 but how many cycles can you take girl!?
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During times like this, the only thing that can make me feel better is hugging someone I love. A virtual, big bear hug to you, dear. 😄
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Girls, all this is making me go crazy! Lol! Discussing about a male Cap's ways and seeing so many similar occurrences in many other girls' life too, unconsciously I took a trip to the past. That reminded me of all the times he's been so sweet and gentlemanly.

Also, I went back to seeing some of the selfies which he used to send me during the earlier stages and read his poems, too, the ones he wrote for me when things were going really good.

Now I guess I kinda miss him. Something tells me that he misses me, too. No update on his blog for a week now, so I don't know...

Phew! Dear #foreverloveme, there can't be a more sensible advice than what you told me, to wait until my birthday. But my birthday is two whole weeks away! Silly me!
Of course you're missing the good moments 🙂 but how many cycles can you take girl!?
During times like this, the only thing that can make me feel better is hugging someone I love. A virtual, big bear hug to you, dear. 😄
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I need a big bear hug right now!!! Thanks 🙂 🙂
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Girls, all this is making me go crazy! Lol! Discussing about a male Cap's ways and seeing so many similar occurrences in many other girls' life too, unconsciously I took a trip to the past. That reminded me of all the times he's been so sweet and gentlemanly.

Also, I went back to seeing some of the selfies which he used to send me during the earlier stages and read his poems, too, the ones he wrote for me when things were going really good.

Now I guess I kinda miss him. Something tells me that he misses me, too. No update on his blog for a week now, so I don't know...

Phew! Dear #foreverloveme, there can't be a more sensible advice than what you told me, to wait until my birthday. But my birthday is two whole weeks away! Silly me!
Of course you're missing the good moments 🙂 but how many cycles can you take girl!?
During times like this, the only thing that can make me feel better is hugging someone I love. A virtual, big bear hug to you, dear. 😄
I need a big bear hug right now!!! Thanks 🙂 🙂
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Be prepared for more. You girls have been so sweet! 🙂
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Seeing each other is the exact same. He does text a lot more now though! I wonder why he is texting you less. Just ask him and let me know what he says.
I dont want to give him that kind of pressure.....giving myself 3 more mths....Foreverloveme says his action is more reflective of how he feels. Kind of make sense to me, msging not come naturally for him and he was putting additional effort to do that initially. But I still see him at least once a wk, soo I should appreciate and see the positivity in that.....

If I had to choose, I rather see him more than have him msg me more