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Posted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
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We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
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Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Posted by HearttofTopazzDo whatever makes you happy and feel great! Everyone will have an opinion about something lol
Too true haha
I just find the fur issue hilarious since its been touted so much, thanks peta.
But people who are strongly against fur due to animal cruelty will also have leather in their life... so its like huh?
My gbff had no idea his sheepskin rug was made from actual sheep skin. He thought they shave the sheep and attach it to like vegan leather or something lol. I shattered that dream for him. Yo a sheep had to die to keep your feet warm.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Yes, I do. I'm not a vegetarian either, though we are contemplating it right now. Why did you ask the question? lol Are you going to become a pro-fur advocate or do you just want to feel okay about your purchase?
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I feel great about my purchase. I will continue to wear fur.
Just the attitude towards it from certain friends of mine sparked this topic. Interested in hearing opinions out there.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Yes, I do. I'm not a vegetarian either, though we are contemplating it right now. Why did you ask the question? lol Are you going to become a pro-fur advocate or do you just want to feel okay about your purchase?
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Ask for opinions..
Criticize all opinions..
Typical cat lady validation thread.
fake or real, i think it looks tacky.
Posted by jeanefake or real, i think it looks tacky.
My tastes are getting more tacky as I age lol.
Used to be understated af
I love it. Faux and real. ❤️
Don't see the point honestly.
even the vintage pieces, unless you live in a mansion, glamourous AF and you're pushing 60' it looks foolish as hell.
Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by jeanefake or real, i think it looks tacky.
My tastes are getting more tacky as I age lol.
Used to be understated af
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lol. for context i'll add that i am a vegetarian but you're absolutely right about the leather thing. i have leather boots. i take medicines which no doubt were tested on animals. i use glue which probably has pig in it. my life style contributes to the death of animals all the time.
my objection isn't moral. people are entitled to make their own choices if they want to eat animals or wear animals.
for me it is purely an aesthetic objection. leather doesn't look like a cow. a fur coat looks like the furry pelt of an animal. but because it is aesthetic, who i am to claim to be the final judge on what is good or not. i'm no anna wintour.
if you like it, enjoy it.
Don't you already have fur already? Permanent fur on the skin? Raccoons usually have them.
Posted by bumboklattWould you wear dog fur?
As far as pointing fingers i mean we are in a first world while kids are dying from starvation and war
just going to leave this here
Posted by bumboklattPosted by jeanePosted by bumboklattWould you wear dog fur?
As far as pointing fingers i mean we are in a first world while kids are dying from starvation and war
just going to leave this here
Become the dog
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Posted by bumboklattPosted by jeanePosted by bumboklattPosted by jeanePosted by bumboklattWould you wear dog fur?
As far as pointing fingers i mean we are in a first world while kids are dying from starvation and war
just going to leave this here
Become the dog
I wonder of the dog knows it's dog fur. It probably doesent care as long as it gets treats
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i suppose it can probably smell that the jumper is the same smell as itself.
what i don't understand is why knitting with your own dog's fur automatically means you have to make some ill fitting, ugly arsed item of clothing with it.
Posted by jeanePosted by bumboklattWould you wear dog fur?
As far as pointing fingers i mean we are in a first world while kids are dying from starvation and war
just going to leave this here
Lol I actually LOVE the Mongolian fur cuff vibes on jackets.. like this one... so much fluffy
Posted by emeraldgemYou asked about FUR specifically. And I answered that way.
Calm yo tits, its not that serious
I only wear human skin
I love fur and I wear it. I have a few vintage pieces as well couple of newer ones. Looks absolutely gorgeous on me, why not.
Posted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Lmao, they never do! haha
I'm an animal lover and vegans even annoy the shit out of me! Acting all self righteous, blind to how much they actually contribute. We all do, it's unavoidable.
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Lol isn't it funny how we latch onto something as a society to obsess over?
Lately here its been plastic straws. Everyone is either giving paper straws or no straws at all.
My gbff kills me because he's so adamant about NEVER getting a plastic straw but then will order to go on the regular and trash all that plastic.
At that point... a straw here and there isn't gonna make much of a difference. Js
Posted by emeraldgem@saggurl88 - It puts the lotion in the basket.............arrrrrrrgh!!! That movie scared the shit out of me!
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Come here, babe!
Posted by emeraldgemPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemYou asked about FUR specifically. And I answered that way.
Calm yo tits, its not that serious
Then don't ask about fur and then go off about belts, boots, coats and leather seats. That's irritating.
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Lol STOP TOPIC SHAMING ME
I love it
Fur is rude. I feel.
Unless you legit used every single part of that animal to sustain you. Like the natives do. Then it’s ok.
Farming animals to slaughter them and rip their fur off and throw their bodies away is rude AF.
Posted by pisceanlovesI love fur and I wear it. I have a few vintage pieces as well couple of newer ones. Looks absolutely gorgeous on me, why not.
Posted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Lmao, they never do! haha
I'm an animal lover and vegans even annoy the shit out of me! Acting all self righteous, blind to how much they actually contribute. We all do, it's unavoidable.
Lol isn't it funny how we latch onto something as a society to obsess over?
Lately here its been plastic straws. Everyone is either giving paper straws or no straws at all.
My gbff kills me because he's so adamant about NEVER getting a plastic straw but then will order to go on the regular and trash all that plastic.
At that point... a straw here and there isn't gonna make much of a difference. Js
OMG, Don't even get me started on the straws!!! Lol
What gets me is that for one, they should go in the plastic to begin with, problem solved.. But two, people are now out there buying metal straws and washing them.. like ya'll never thought to just wash and reuse the plastic ones you been buying for fkn ever!? Use your damn brains people. Like no one ever thought of washing a fkn straw till they came out with metal.. that is not transparent and likely full of mold.
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The metal straws kill me.
The only time I'm using a straw is for a mixed drink when I'm out somewhere. I'm not gonna whip out a metal straw and then put it all used and dripping back into my non-existent purse lol.
Its like the plastic and paper bags. Grocery stores be like...they are bad for the environment so we are no longer giving them out for free! You must buy them for 10cents each. Ummm ok. So your telling me your still giving them out then...
Posted by SjessFur is rude. I feel.
Unless you legit used every single part of that animal to sustain you. Like the natives do. Then it’s ok.
Farming animals to slaughter them and rip their fur off and throw their bodies away is rude AF.
Hmmm. So you view it like the buddists. If the death was humane, eat up.
So if we are all native vibes and use every part then its kosher?
What if the fur came from an animal that died of natural causes. Pc then?
I'm with you on this.
Posted by Black-MambaI have bags made out of tiger/lion
i probably buy chinchilla if i could afford it
its soft as hell
My friend just got a chinchilla and I keep joking with him, "hey if you decide you don't like her we just need to get you 29 more and you'll have enough for a coat".
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Lmao, they never do! haha
I'm an animal lover and vegans even annoy the shit out of me! Acting all self righteous, blind to how much they actually contribute. We all do, it's unavoidable.
Lol isn't it funny how we latch onto something as a society to obsess over?
Lately here its been plastic straws. Everyone is either giving paper straws or no straws at all.
My gbff kills me because he's so adamant about NEVER getting a plastic straw but then will order to go on the regular and trash all that plastic.
At that point... a straw here and there isn't gonna make much of a difference. Js
OMG, Don't even get me started on the straws!!! Lol
What gets me is that for one, they should go in the plastic to begin with, problem solved.. But two, people are now out there buying metal straws and washing them.. like ya'll never thought to just wash and reuse the plastic ones you been buying for fkn ever!? Use your damn brains people. Like no one ever thought of washing a fkn straw till they came out with metal.. that is not transparent and likely full of mold.
The metal straws kill me.
The only time I'm using a straw is for a mixed drink when I'm out somewhere. I'm not gonna whip out a metal straw and then put it all used and dripping back into my non-existent purse lol.
Its like the plastic and paper bags. Grocery stores be like...they are bad for the environment so we are no longer giving them out for free! You must buy them for 10cents each. Ummm ok. So your telling me your still giving them out then...
They have collapsible metal straws with little cases that you can put in your pocket.
For some people straw usage is serious business. According to FB comment sections, there appears to be a nationwide epidemic of people who are physically unable to drink without a straw.
I think the condition is called Imstillafuckingchilditis.
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Barf @ collapsible
I need a straw for my mojitos. Can't be getting mint stuck in my throat. If I'm spending $ 14 for a cocktail you best get me my straw!
Posted by DenaliPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Lmao, they never do! haha
I'm an animal lover and vegans even annoy the shit out of me! Acting all self righteous, blind to how much they actually contribute. We all do, it's unavoidable.
Lol isn't it funny how we latch onto something as a society to obsess over?
Lately here its been plastic straws. Everyone is either giving paper straws or no straws at all.
My gbff kills me because he's so adamant about NEVER getting a plastic straw but then will order to go on the regular and trash all that plastic.
At that point... a straw here and there isn't gonna make much of a difference. Js
OMG, Don't even get me started on the straws!!! Lol
What gets me is that for one, they should go in the plastic to begin with, problem solved.. But two, people are now out there buying metal straws and washing them.. like ya'll never thought to just wash and reuse the plastic ones you been buying for fkn ever!? Use your damn brains people. Like no one ever thought of washing a fkn straw till they came out with metal.. that is not transparent and likely full of mold.
The metal straws kill me.
The only time I'm using a straw is for a mixed drink when I'm out somewhere. I'm not gonna whip out a metal straw and then put it all used and dripping back into my non-existent purse lol.
Its like the plastic and paper bags. Grocery stores be like...they are bad for the environment so we are no longer giving them out for free! You must buy them for 10cents each. Ummm ok. So your telling me your still giving them out then...
Lol 😆
I own glass straws. I’ve actually never bought plastic straws though. I only got the glass straws for making festive drinks and wanting to reuse them. But I am somewhat conscious of the plastic straw. I don’t use them when offered to me at restaurants and they’re still in their packaging 😄
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I've never bought them either.
But now I have to get my caramel macchiatos upside down cause no straw = no caramel in the mouth.
The local kill shelter here re purposes the fur and carcasses.
The sell the fur to local clothing shops.
They grind up the carcasses and make dog food for the other dogs waiting to be put down.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by _DazedThe local kill shelter here re purposes the fur and carcasses.
The sell the fur to local clothing shops.
They grind up the carcasses and make dog food for the other dogs waiting to be put down.
lol
People fooling themselves if they think these furs are coming from situations where the whole animal was used in some sort of responsible way.
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I've been to a few of the shops to look around.
They definitely aren't informing the customers that the fur scarf they bought, was re purposed fur from "Buddy" that was abandoned three weeks ago.
Posted by TheRabbitI use a lot of fur and feathers in my fly tying stuff.
I try my best to use stuff where the animal was wholly used or as I said before is a pest.
I no longer use fox fur or tails because coyote is a good substitute.
Finnish Raccoons and Nutria are both pest animals and need to be killed to protect native species. I'll use that.
Deer tail and hair are from animals that are further used for food. No problems tgere.
Aside from raccoons and coyote's what else do you consider pest animals?
Posted by emeraldgemFur is also used to convey status. Lookie what I can afford!!!
Is it tho?
Maybe way back when... but this item in question cost me under $ 50 bucks. I've spent more on cotten/linen blend tees
I'd argue our phones are the biggest status symbol, at least for millenials. Gotta show off that latest iphone ya know.
Posted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids. Don't think you'll wanna wear fur anymore it's a reality. You can ignore it but it's still real.
Compare this to an animal who lived happily in a farm and then went to the abbatory?
It's not comparable.
I like big fur coats like those sexy 60s stuff even if it's vintage I'd never wear them because I don't wanna encourage people to accept it as normal. You're wearing cruelty on yourself and it's out of pure vanity. The world is enough fucked as it is. We should make our world better not make it worse. There is enough suffering and shit with plastic and forest fires and stuff.
Well those forest fires you reference are started by farmers clearing forest to raise beef to meet the Wests taste for steak and burgers (primarily the us). So its a slippery slope when you start bemoaning whats bad for our environment. Unless your living that vegan, off grid life style ... we are all out here contributing.
Our wastes are being dumped onto other countries shoulders (china being on of them) to process and sort. Those people are suffering from being exposed to our chemical filled trash and waste. But I don't see the PETA group out there championing those peoples quality of life.
Personally I'm not a fan of Chinese made products in general. I have zero issues wearing vintage fur sourced here in the us. I sleep very well at night. Could be the xanax but I digress 😂
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by TheRabbitI use a lot of fur and feathers in my fly tying stuff.
I try my best to use stuff where the animal was wholly used or as I said before is a pest.
I no longer use fox fur or tails because coyote is a good substitute.
Finnish Raccoons and Nutria are both pest animals and need to be killed to protect native species. I'll use that.
Deer tail and hair are from animals that are further used for food. No problems tgere.
Aside from raccoons and coyote's what else do you consider pest animals?
Nutria, squirrels in some cases, Canada geese, moles, muskrat in some cases.
It depends on the circumstances. A squirrel in the woods isn't a pest. Squirrels in the city that keep cutting power to entire city blocks when they gnaw on wires or get into transformers are.
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Plenty of coyotes out here looking for designer dogs for lunch.
Wait..
Forests being burned down to make farm land? lol
Posted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by blvckphvsePosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by emeraldgemI feel like killing animals for food = necessary. Killing animals for their fur = unnecessary.
Personally, I'm nauseated by it.
Hunger over comfort.
What if you live somewhere cold kills (not me obvi)
These are not Medieval times. We have much better fabric for warmth than fur.
We also have non-meat food stuffs that give complete protein, and yet I'm still eating meat 🤷
You bought it for fashion, right?
I don't think it's necessarily wrong to buy vintage pieces that were ill-gotten or made, like ivory or fur, but I'd probably avoid it. *shrugs*
Aesthetics and warmth.
Do you have leather products in your wardrobe? Car seats leather? Couch leather?
Whoops animal had to die.
Thats why this fur thing is kinda funny to me. My vegan friend flipped her shit when she saw my fur headband but when I pointed out her brand new mini coupe has leather seats... lol she didn't like that comparison.
Lmao, they never do! haha
I'm an animal lover and vegans even annoy the shit out of me! Acting all self righteous, blind to how much they actually contribute. We all do, it's unavoidable.
Lol isn't it funny how we latch onto something as a society to obsess over?
Lately here its been plastic straws. Everyone is either giving paper straws or no straws at all.
My gbff kills me because he's so adamant about NEVER getting a plastic straw but then will order to go on the regular and trash all that plastic.
At that point... a straw here and there isn't gonna make much of a difference. Js
OMG, Don't even get me started on the straws!!! Lol
What gets me is that for one, they should go in the plastic to begin with, problem solved.. But two, people are now out there buying metal straws and washing them.. like ya'll never thought to just wash and reuse the plastic ones you been buying for fkn ever!? Use your damn brains people. Like no one ever thought of washing a fkn straw till they came out with metal.. that is not transparent and likely full of mold.
The metal straws kill me.
The only time I'm using a straw is for a mixed drink when I'm out somewhere. I'm not gonna whip out a metal straw and then put it all used and dripping back into my non-existent purse lol.
Its like the plastic and paper bags. Grocery stores be like...they are bad for the environment so we are no longer giving them out for free! You must buy them for 10cents each. Ummm ok. So your telling me your still giving them out then...
So dumb right!? They are still producing just as many bags as they were before, now just want money for them. Like ummm okay?
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Yup. Or they want you to spend $ 14 on a hideous ass reusable bag with their logo all over it. Hard pass.
Posted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids.
this is a common argument either when talking about eating meat, buying apparel made in sweatshops and now in this instance, wearing fur.
the problem is that you assume that your moral outrage will be shared by people if only they had the same information that you do.
the thing is they do. it simply doesn't matter to them. you can't force people to share your world view. there are some people you might persuade but others? they just don't feel about these issues the same way you do. even when provided all the logical and reasoned arguments.
Posted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids. Don't think you'll wanna wear fur anymore it's a reality. You can ignore it but it's still real.
Compare this to an animal who lived happily in a farm and then went to the abbatory?
It's not comparable.
I like big fur coats like those sexy 60s stuff even if it's vintage I'd never wear them because I don't wanna encourage people to accept it as normal. You're wearing cruelty on yourself and it's out of pure vanity. The world is enough fucked as it is. We should make our world better not make it worse. There is enough suffering and shit with plastic and forest fires and stuff.
Well those forest fires you reference are started by farmers clearing forest to raise beef to meet the Wests taste for steak and burgers (primarily the us). So its a slippery slope when you start bemoaning whats bad for our environment. Unless your living that vegan, off grid life style ... we are all out here contributing.
Our wastes are being dumped onto other countries shoulders (china being on of them) to process and sort. Those people are suffering from being exposed to our chemical filled trash and waste. But I don't see the PETA group out there championing those peoples quality of life.
Personally I'm not a fan of Chinese made products in general. I have zero issues wearing vintage fur sourced here in the us. I sleep very well at night. Could be the xanax but I digress 😂
So, we should all just throw our hands up and not care about any issue or try at all? Really? Just so you get to wear a headband without guilt?
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Did I say we should throw our hands up and do nothing? Never said I felt guilty either. Don’t be putting words in my mouth just cause this topic triggers you.
I personally find it ironic that if the animal is cute and cuddly people don’t like the thought of killing it. But those same people get into their leather seat cars and buy burgers with money out of their leather purses and wallets. Like, same ish.
Posted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids.
this is a common argument either when talking about eating meat, buying apparel made in sweatshops and now in this instance, wearing fur.
the problem is that you assume that your moral outrage will be shared by people if only they had the same information that you do.
the thing is they do. it simply doesn't matter to them. you can't force people to share your world view. there are some people you might persuade but others? they just don't feel about these issues the same way you do. even when provided all the logical and reasoned arguments.
Who says I wanna force people to share my world view? It's a free world. I know this. Thanks.
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oh ok. so you are telling people to watch videos about animals being skinned because there is nothing else on netflix?
Posted by TheRabbitI think the fact our cops shoot black people for minor infractions and get away with it is SORTA a bigger issue than fur, though.
Sorry it isn’t. Black people aren’t as cute and cuddly as this guy
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids. Don't think you'll wanna wear fur anymore it's a reality. You can ignore it but it's still real.
Compare this to an animal who lived happily in a farm and then went to the abbatory?
It's not comparable.
I like big fur coats like those sexy 60s stuff even if it's vintage I'd never wear them because I don't wanna encourage people to accept it as normal. You're wearing cruelty on yourself and it's out of pure vanity. The world is enough fucked as it is. We should make our world better not make it worse. There is enough suffering and shit with plastic and forest fires and stuff.
Well those forest fires you reference are started by farmers clearing forest to raise beef to meet the Wests taste for steak and burgers (primarily the us). So its a slippery slope when you start bemoaning whats bad for our environment. Unless your living that vegan, off grid life style ... we are all out here contributing.
Our wastes are being dumped onto other countries shoulders (china being on of them) to process and sort. Those people are suffering from being exposed to our chemical filled trash and waste. But I don't see the PETA group out there championing those peoples quality of life.
Personally I'm not a fan of Chinese made products in general. I have zero issues wearing vintage fur sourced here in the us. I sleep very well at night. Could be the xanax but I digress 😂
So, we should all just throw our hands up and not care about any issue or try at all? Really? Just so you get to wear a headband without guilt?
Did I say we should throw our hands up and do nothing? Never said I felt guilty either. Don’t be putting words in my mouth just cause this topic triggers you.
I personally find it ironic that if the animal is cute and cuddly people don’t like the thought of killing it. But those same people get into their leather seat cars and buy burgers with money out of their leather purses and wallets. Like, same ish.
The reason we attach ourselves to certain animals and not others is that some animals were specifically bred or specifically evolved as companion animals and some were specifically bred for food/product purposes.
I think there IS a hierarchy when it comes to which animals we value above others in terms of life or death because we've created that bond.
Like no sane person has an emo bond with a chicken. It's just a small velociraptor that would kill you and eat you if given the chance. Fuck that. Fry those fuckers up.
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Posted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids.
this is a common argument either when talking about eating meat, buying apparel made in sweatshops and now in this instance, wearing fur.
the problem is that you assume that your moral outrage will be shared by people if only they had the same information that you do.
the thing is they do. it simply doesn't matter to them. you can't force people to share your world view. there are some people you might persuade but others? they just don't feel about these issues the same way you do. even when provided all the logical and reasoned arguments.
Who says I wanna force people to share my world view? It's a free world. I know this. Thanks.
oh ok. so you are telling people to watch videos about animals being skinned because there is nothing else on netflix?
You interpret what I say however you like 👌
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i didn't realise i needed your permission but thanks very much!
Posted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids.
this is a common argument either when talking about eating meat, buying apparel made in sweatshops and now in this instance, wearing fur.
the problem is that you assume that your moral outrage will be shared by people if only they had the same information that you do.
the thing is they do. it simply doesn't matter to them. you can't force people to share your world view. there are some people you might persuade but others? they just don't feel about these issues the same way you do. even when provided all the logical and reasoned arguments.
Who says I wanna force people to share my world view? It's a free world. I know this. Thanks.
oh ok. so you are telling people to watch videos about animals being skinned because there is nothing else on netflix?
You interpret what I say however you like 👌
i didn't realise i needed your permission but thanks very much!
You're welcome hun.
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there nothing like an intellectually dishonest cancer with a victim mentality is there? you do your sign proud.
Posted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids.
this is a common argument either when talking about eating meat, buying apparel made in sweatshops and now in this instance, wearing fur.
the problem is that you assume that your moral outrage will be shared by people if only they had the same information that you do.
the thing is they do. it simply doesn't matter to them. you can't force people to share your world view. there are some people you might persuade but others? they just don't feel about these issues the same way you do. even when provided all the logical and reasoned arguments.
Who says I wanna force people to share my world view? It's a free world. I know this. Thanks.
oh ok. so you are telling people to watch videos about animals being skinned because there is nothing else on netflix?
You interpret what I say however you like 👌
i didn't realise i needed your permission but thanks very much!
You're welcome hun.
there nothing like an intellectually dishonest cancer with a victim mentality is there? you do your sign proud.
Huh what? Girl you're crazy.
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why don't you try being condescending again and call me hun?
Posted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids.
this is a common argument either when talking about eating meat, buying apparel made in sweatshops and now in this instance, wearing fur.
the problem is that you assume that your moral outrage will be shared by people if only they had the same information that you do.
the thing is they do. it simply doesn't matter to them. you can't force people to share your world view. there are some people you might persuade but others? they just don't feel about these issues the same way you do. even when provided all the logical and reasoned arguments.
Who says I wanna force people to share my world view? It's a free world. I know this. Thanks.
oh ok. so you are telling people to watch videos about animals being skinned because there is nothing else on netflix?
You interpret what I say however you like 👌
i didn't realise i needed your permission but thanks very much!
You're welcome hun.
there nothing like an intellectually dishonest cancer with a victim mentality is there? you do your sign proud.
Huh what? Girl you're crazy.
why don't you try being condescending again and call me hun?
I think you've got some serious mental issues so I'm gonna put you on ignore. You're kinda creepy actually and a bit too much obssessed with me. Bye hun. 😘
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lol obsessed = 5 messages.
what i can say? hypocrites with no courage of their convictions wind me up.
and when without logic and reason to explain your point and you've run out of passive aggressive affectations to have the last word, you scurry away throwing final empty accusations, closing the door behind you so you don't have to defend them.
Posted by TheRabbitPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by Phantom_DangusPosted by LadyNeptunePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids. Don't think you'll wanna wear fur anymore it's a reality. You can ignore it but it's still real.
Compare this to an animal who lived happily in a farm and then went to the abbatory?
It's not comparable.
I like big fur coats like those sexy 60s stuff even if it's vintage I'd never wear them because I don't wanna encourage people to accept it as normal. You're wearing cruelty on yourself and it's out of pure vanity. The world is enough fucked as it is. We should make our world better not make it worse. There is enough suffering and shit with plastic and forest fires and stuff.
Well those forest fires you reference are started by farmers clearing forest to raise beef to meet the Wests taste for steak and burgers (primarily the us). So its a slippery slope when you start bemoaning whats bad for our environment. Unless your living that vegan, off grid life style ... we are all out here contributing.
Our wastes are being dumped onto other countries shoulders (china being on of them) to process and sort. Those people are suffering from being exposed to our chemical filled trash and waste. But I don't see the PETA group out there championing those peoples quality of life.
Personally I'm not a fan of Chinese made products in general. I have zero issues wearing vintage fur sourced here in the us. I sleep very well at night. Could be the xanax but I digress 😂
So, we should all just throw our hands up and not care about any issue or try at all? Really? Just so you get to wear a headband without guilt?
Did I say we should throw our hands up and do nothing? Never said I felt guilty either. Don’t be putting words in my mouth just cause this topic triggers you.
I personally find it ironic that if the animal is cute and cuddly people don’t like the thought of killing it. But those same people get into their leather seat cars and buy burgers with money out of their leather purses and wallets. Like, same ish.
The reason we attach ourselves to certain animals and not others is that some animals were specifically bred or specifically evolved as companion animals and some were specifically bred for food/product purposes.
I think there IS a hierarchy when it comes to which animals we value above others in terms of life or death because we've created that bond.
Like no sane person has an emo bond with a chicken. It's just a small velociraptor that would kill you and eat you if given the chance. Fuck that. Fry those fuckers up.
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Birds freak me out too.
See I point out something similar when my vegan/vegetarian friends wanna get feisty and shame me for eating meat.
If it wasn’t for human intervention these animals wouldn’t exist or would look much different. They were bred for human consumption. Literally.
People in China eat dogs and over here we’re all wtf how inhumane. While India is over there giving us the side eye 🐄
So I agree, it comes down to what we are culturally/socially conditioned to accept as pc.
Posted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggPosted by jeanePosted by CancerAquaSaggHuh you know animals are skinned alive and lived usually in cages and in terrible conditions somewhere in China? You might wanna watch some vids.
this is a common argument either when talking about eating meat, buying apparel made in sweatshops and now in this instance, wearing fur.
the problem is that you assume that your moral outrage will be shared by people if only they had the same information that you do.
the thing is they do. it simply doesn't matter to them. you can't force people to share your world view. there are some people you might persuade but others? they just don't feel about these issues the same way you do. even when provided all the logical and reasoned arguments.
Who says I wanna force people to share my world view? It's a free world. I know this. Thanks.
oh ok. so you are telling people to watch videos about animals being skinned because there is nothing else on netflix?
You interpret what I say however you like 👌
i didn't realise i needed your permission but thanks very much!
You're welcome hun.
there nothing like an intellectually dishonest cancer with a victim mentality is there? you do your sign proud.
Huh what? Girl you're crazy.
why don't you try being condescending again and call me hun?
I think you've got some serious mental issues so I'm gonna put you on ignore. You're kinda creepy actually and a bit too much obssessed with me. Bye hun. 😘
lol obsessed = 5 messages.
what i can say? hypocrites with no courage of their convictions wind me up.
and when without logic and reason to explain your point and you've run out of passive aggressive affectations to have the last word, you scurry away throwing final empty accusations, closing the door behind you so you don't have to defend them.
No it's not the first time we talked and you always seem super aggressive and crazy without no reason. I ain't got time for crazy bitches like you. Now you're muted so keep typing lol. Take care girl 🙏
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for someone obsessed i dont even remember you.
for someone who is ignored, i still seem to be read.
if i'm aggressive to you it just means you have a long history of talking shite.
girl, hun, crazy bitch, mental issues etc. if you actually had any merit to your point you wouldn't need to resort to those sorts of terms. it may work with kids in the playground. it has no traction with me.
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Just curious about what you all think when it comes to wearing fur.
Personally I'm all for it if vintage.
Just scored a gorgeous fox fur vintage headband that I'll wear tf out of this winter (trips to big bear and Colorado planed).
I have several friends that are vegen/vegetarian and very outspoken bout it. But its like...I eat red meat. Regularly. So I don't see a problem with wearing fur, leather, etc. Especially if its vintage ya know.
Thoughts?