Gem doesn't believe me

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ierafa951
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Well to start off my gem or ex gem........I really like this woman.She believed I was being unfaithful to her.I wasn't.I showed her proof as in emails that were sent from a service representive that looked into my account.I emailed said company numerous times for any type of logs that they kept.I got replies proving my innocence of no contact with anyone.

Sadly my gem.........believes even with numerous emails from me and said company that she was my only contact I have had within said company.How can I convince her otherwise?I dont want to admit guilt for something that I didnt do.I really like this woman and would hate to lose her............over something that didnt happen.

I have always been loyal to the females that have dated.I learned from my father.Please help! I just want my gem back 😢
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long story but i'll explain:

Keep in mind we have both been cheated on in previous relationships.I know how it feels I would never do anything to hurt her.As I said before I am very loyal to my partner and I have no reason to lie to any of you since you guys/gals don't know her.

We met on a dating app,we talked their up until I asked her for her number and met in person.We worked in close proximity to each other not knowing.We started talking more and more and I uninstalled the app from my phone.I had a note 7 (the ones that explode) I back up my phone regularly.My last back up had that app.I replaced my phone and only installed the necessary apps that I needed at the time.

Well come new years I decided to do a full restore on my phone.That app was reinstalled.I logged in to disable/delete my account.I didn't know how so I googled it.The next morning she asked me what I was doing on the app.I told her I was trying to disable my account but didn't know how.I showed her a screenshot of my search from the previous day.She wouldn't have none of it,she immediately said "you're on that app I look at that as cheating"

I emailed customer support for logs or any type of proof that I was not being unfaithful.Keep in mind in order to email this company you have to be logged in to the website which puts you as online on the app.

I got one email stating that my last login was back in September,the month that we met and i stopped using it,and another login a month later complaining about them not cancelling my account and renewing my subscription after I had asked to cancel.They also mentioned a few logins at the beginning of January which is where I kept emailing them for proof.

The last email that I received from them was the actual proof that I wasn't doing anything.Keep in mind you cant message or view anyone without paying.Which I hadn't paid for since that last charge I had in October where I asked to cancel.This last email was the one stating that I had only contacted one female back in September,in which I asked for her number ending in 0404,which is my Gems.She didn't even want to see the proof...........
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ierafa951
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Posted by littlenanobyte
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Well I havent told her sorry,i figured why should I be sorry for something that I didnt do?To be honest my daughter is the one that created that profile for me and put me on that app.She felt that I was lonely and emotionally distraught after my ex of 10 years cheated on me.So all I really did was login and talk to her there until i got her number.........



Should I apologize?
For the app simply being on your phone, yes it does not belong there if you are in a committed relationship, so I think that apologizing would be a good start 🙂

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Should I also send her the email that I was sent as well?I'll likely be talking to her in about an hour from now
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This: "I showed her a screenshot of my search from the previous day."

How is it that you had a screenshot of that? You searched for a way to delete the account, expected her to find out you touched the site, so you took a screenshot just in case? Who does that? A manipulator, that's who.

I get that maybe you took the screenshot in good faith, to avoid this situation, but by doing that, you are trying to deal with her own insecurities, when they are really hers to deal with and when your dealing with her insecurities cannot possibly make them go away. This is her personal problem, and while you can be supportive of her dealing with it, it is not yours to fix it for her, and there is no way you ever could. All kinds of destructive misunderstandings happen when guys put on the armor of the White Knight.

Also finding it weird that you are telling us you would have no reason to lie here about this since we don't know her. Who has the idea that people on a forum might not believe the story? Looks more like you know that people on here would be less inclined to help you win her back if you admitted you have been fishing for fun.

Also, she clearly has trust issues because what the hell is she doing messing with your phone when she doesn't even live with you? You said she got burned so I see her motivation in this, but if trust between you is so clearly fragile, then things were not solid enough between you two for her to even have access to your phone. She can't learn to trust again by you being an open book and giving her plenty of opportunities to snoop around. She will learn trust only if you keep some to yourself, if you keep some private and sees that nothing bad comes of it over time.

Maybe it is too soon for both of you to date...

Not saying you cheat, not saying you lie. Just highlighting the bits in your story that are suspicious. If I were her, I would have a hard time with this too.
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Posted by ierafa951
Fuck my pride,pardon my French.I will apologize even though i did nothing.shes worth more to me than my effing pride.figure a letter to her house would be better......

I am also thinking of serenading her when she gets home.sometime this week.i just hope my friend can help me out with that.
Serenading her is a bad idea. With her trust issues, this is likely to make her more suspicious.

What she needs is trust in you. Serenading her don't do butter for that. It only tells her you desperately want her back, nothing more. For trust, she needs to think (and not feel) that you are sincere. A good chat would help much more than a serenade.

I would find a serenade pushy. I would feel pressured into turning a blind eye to the issue (not out of hypocrisy but out of doubt) but if I did that, the emotions stemming from the issue would keep brewing inside me. I would probably hide the fact that I am not over it, and that leads to all kinds of neurotic stuff further down the line.

Could it be there are boundary issues? She is fairly likely to have them, and you giving in to that might indicate you have them too. This would then be a psychological problem you both might slow things down for to work on. Not saying you guys are nutjobs, it would depend on how bad the boundary issues are, if any. If boundary issues need work, each would work on them separately, not together. Working on them together would defeat the purpose.

I am not saying this as a Gemini, I am not even a Gemini. I am saying this as a woman with experience in being cheated on and in trust issues. Your question has much less to do with astrology than with relationships in general. Any sane woman of any sign would have trouble with this situation. Having insight into her astrology is irrelevant. Understand the issue, talk to women who have been there.
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ierafa951
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Posted by Gombolom
This: "I showed her a screenshot of my search from the previous day."

How is it that you had a screenshot of that? You searched for a way to delete the account, expected her to find out you touched the site, so you took a screenshot just in case? Who does that? A manipulator, that's who.

I get that maybe you took the screenshot in good faith, to avoid this situation, but by doing that, you are trying to deal with her own insecurities, when they are really hers to deal with and when your dealing with her insecurities cannot possibly make them go away. This is her personal problem, and while you can be supportive of her dealing with it, it is not yours to fix it for her, and there is no way you ever could. All kinds of destructive misunderstandings happen when guys put on the armor of the White Knight.

Also finding it weird that you are telling us you would have no reason to lie here about this since we don't know her. Who has the idea that people on a forum might not believe the story? Looks more like you know that people on here would be less inclined to help you win her back if you admitted you have been fishing for fun.

Also, she clearly has trust issues because what the hell is she doing messing with your phone when she doesn't even live with you? You said she got burned so I see her motivation in this, but if trust between you is so clearly fragile, then things were not solid enough between you two for her to even have access to your phone. She can't learn to trust again by you being an open book and giving her plenty of opportunities to snoop around. She will learn trust only if you keep some to yourself, if you keep some private and sees that nothing bad comes of it over time.

Maybe it is too soon for both of you to date...

Not saying you cheat, not saying you lie. Just highlighting the bits in your story that are suspicious. If I were her, I would have a hard time with this too.
The screenshot was taken after she had hung up angrily.i didnt take it before.she called me the day after i had logged in to delete the profile.
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Posted by ierafa951
Fuck my pride,pardon my French.I will apologize even though i did nothing.shes worth more to me than my effing pride.figure a letter to her house would be better......

I am also thinking of serenading her when she gets home.sometime this week.i just hope my friend can help me out with that.
If someone serenade me - it would be worse than cheating'

But it's just me!
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Posted by Gemitati
Posted by ierafa951
Fuck my pride,pardon my French.I will apologize even though i did nothing.shes worth more to me than my effing pride.figure a letter to her house would be better......

I am also thinking of serenading her when she gets home.sometime this week.i just hope my friend can help me out with that.
If someone serenade me - it would be worse than cheating'

But it's just me!
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So you wouldn't want a man to sing to you?
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Posted by ierafa951
Fuck my pride,pardon my French.I will apologize even though i did nothing.shes worth more to me than my effing pride.figure a letter to her house would be better......

I am also thinking of serenading her when she gets home.sometime this week.i just hope my friend can help me out with that.
If someone serenade me - it would be worse than cheating'

But it's just me!
So you wouldn't want a man to sing to you?

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So goes to dancing. If you must know. Lol

I love real deal man. Grab my ass and shut up! And God forbidd calling me honey if you need your balls to be still attached to your body!

However I will make you feel like a King of the World for simple silence and passionate hug! Gems don't fail! We fall but even then we stand up tall!!!

Don't make fool or yourself!

Only MAN need to apply'
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Posted by ierafa951
Fuck my pride,pardon my French.I will apologize even though i did nothing.shes worth more to me than my effing pride.figure a letter to her house would be better......

I am also thinking of serenading her when she gets home.sometime this week.i just hope my friend can help me out with that.
Serenading is super corny and somewhat nauseating. Better and more sincere to apologize in person.

Take her out to a nice dinner, candle lit. Bring her favorite flowers.

Hold her hand and tell her you are sorry and hate that you've hurt her with your idiocy. Assure her that she is special and the only one for you.

Then go home and have hot makeup sex.
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Posted by Gemitati
Posted by ierafa951
Fuck my pride,pardon my French.I will apologize even though i did nothing.shes worth more to me than my effing pride.figure a letter to her house would be better......

I am also thinking of serenading her when she gets home.sometime this week.i just hope my friend can help me out with that.
If someone serenade me - it would be worse than cheating'

But it's just me!
So you wouldn't want a man to sing to you?

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I personally would love a man singing to me, even if drunkenly and out of tune. Just not in circumstances like yours.

Also, I second what others are saying about keeping things smooth for now. Maybe she is just working things out in her mind. She might be sorting out her own trust issues caused by past cheating. Give her time. Although I understand things are not as exciting as they were recently between you two, she still talks to you every day, and that is a good sign.

When things get back to normal, you might want to put it behind you two, actively, to make sure this doesn't come back to bite you both in the butt.
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Posted by ierafa951
Fuck my pride,pardon my French.I will apologize even though i did nothing.shes worth more to me than my effing pride.figure a letter to her house would be better......

I am also thinking of serenading her when she gets home.sometime this week.i just hope my friend can help me out with that.
Serenading is super corny and somewhat nauseating. Better and more sincere to apologize in person.

Take her out to a nice dinner, candle lit. Bring her favorite flowers.

Hold her hand and tell her you are sorry and hate that you've hurt her with your idiocy. Assure her that she is special and the only one for you.

Then go home and have hot makeup sex.
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Let's admit it...he is not gonna make it!

ROFLMAO