Gemini and past relationships

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So, I have been dumped by my Gemini man. When it seems too good to be true, it usually is.

Long story short: We dated for a month. We clicked instantly and our relationship got intense and sexual after a couple of weeks. He told me he was happy with me and I believe he was honest on that part. We were very comfortable with each other and he shared some very personal things with me.
The thing is, he got out of a 5 year long relationship with this girl about 6 months ago. He told me that I was the first girl he had sex with in five years which sounds a bit strange since he was in a relationship with the other girl for that long.

Two weeks ago, his ex started showing up on his doorstep, banging furiously on the door and calling every five minutes. After ignoring her for an hour, he had to deal with her. I could hear him shout at her to leave and that she was being unfair to him. I could hear her sob while he was telling her she couldn't come in and to leave him alone.

Apparently, this girl is sick (mentally) and he says he's feeling responsible for her condition. Not sure what he meant by that but I didn't want to dig too deep at the time.

I had to leave for a month-long holiday I had planned before meeting him and he promised me he wouldn't go back to her, that he would wait for me and that we would call each other while I was away.

Well, two days after I'm gone (we did have a chat on Skype where he said he was happy to see my face the day after I got there), he texted me to tell me he couldn't be my boyfriend, that he needed to help his ex and that his life was in such a mess he couldn't be in two places at once. Once again, he said he needed to be responsible and left it at that.

I decided to give him space to deal with this because I knew this thing was eating him up inside (he cried in front of me a couple of times).

One week later, I get a very hurtful text message. He tells me he is back with his ex, that he loves her. He says he was trying to forget her with me but that it always had been her.

I guess it wasn't a surprise but it's still a blow that I could have done without.

My question is, what is the deal with Gemini and their past relationships? Are they always stuck on an old love like that?
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@anearthygemini He doesn't need her for financial reasons. He's very self sufficient on his own.
He told me she doesn't have any friends and that she's sick and that he feels responsible for her.
I don't really know what that means. I thought that maybe he got her pregnant and wants to help her but since they haven't had sex, that's out of the equation.
When he broke up with me, I went through a lot of crazy scenarios in my head and nothing really adds up.
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@anearthygemini My trust radar has been neeping ever since she came back. He told me I could ask him any question I wanted about this situation when we were still together but then said what happened with his ex was too horrible and too personal. He also said it had nothing to do with him and her but more with her and "something else".
This confuses the hell out of me.

I don't know if I could take him back if that was even on the table. He really hurt my feelings. I feel like I was just a rebound for him while I was actually falling for him. That will teach me.
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Is switching gears a common thing for geminis?
My sister's ex-husband is also a gemini and he left her for someone else, had a kid with that other woman and is now telling my sister he's unhappy and trying to get her back.

There's something else at play with "my" gemini that I've been considering. He had been talking about abusive relationships and asking me if I'd ever been in one. I'd like to know what exactly happened between them but I guess it's none of my business anymore (he said it had become my business the day she came back and acted like (and I'll quote him) a psycho).

What a strange and fascinating sign you guys are. It has my over-analizing virgo brain into overdrive.
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Thank you guys and gals for the input.

I guess my intention is to move on as he clearly stated he loved his ex but a tiny part of me (the vindicative one) hopes this unhealthy relationship will blow in his face and that he'll contact me to apologize about the way he treated me. I'm at a stage where I would give him a second chance if he gave me some clear explanations.

Maybe he lied about everything regarding his relationship with this girl (no sex for 5 years, her being crazy) but he didn't strike me as a compulsive liar. But I could be wrong.
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Posted by marythevirgo

My question is, what is the deal with Gemini and their past relationships? Are they always stuck on an old love like that?







No


In fact, according to what you wrote ... your mind questioned things he said that didn't add up in your mind as being accurate .. but, you decided to ignore these things.


I guess ignorance isn't bliss, afterall.


The answer to your question is "no" ... Geminis don't get stuck on loves ... Virgos get stuck often, though

Perhaps you being a Virgo, and getting stuck on a guy who was throwing mixed signals to you all along is the actual problem here.
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@P-Angel He didn't throw mixed signals at me while we were together. He made it very clear he liked me and was happy with me up until the ex came knocking on his door.
I agree that we Virgos can get stuck on old loves, especially if there's still hope for a reconciliation. If not, I usually go my way and delete them from my life. But I don't think that's something specific to Virgos.

@DG Sadly, I was not aware of this fact when I started seeing him. I just knew that I was the first girl he dated in a long time and that we really liked each other. Next time, I'll ask if there's any crazy ex who might come back. That would save me the heartache.
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Posted by anearthygemini
It just seems to me that while all men can, and do, change emotional gears, the manner in which they express it differs. Some hide behind their work and use that as an excuse. Others just don't call and leave you to go figure what is going on, and other use any excuse they can to delay the inevitable, which is that their feelings have changed and they want to exit.

Some men might string you along in order to be sure that they don't give up a good deal in case they don't find better. Some want to return to good old times that they want to re-create but won—t stay with. Some men just want to break free and run wild and then return. All 12 signs seem to have their way of dealing with this issue of switching emotional gears and it might be a relationship make or break factor.

In the Gem male, he seems more inclined to say his feelings changed for better or for worse and then take off. Is this a Mercury ruled issue, or not? There are plenty of Virgos, I know, who did similar things, such as say what they feel and then cut and run. Some just cut and run because they can't made up their mind on how they want to say it.

Some men can delay the heartbreak by stretching out the eventual goodbye because they have the patience to hide it behind other acceptable reasons for needing to delay the eventual break. Some are just too lazy to break off anything they start and drag it out until it has to end.

However, as far as I can see, all men born under all twelve signs have to deal with this issue and the way they do might be what we??re really looking at. In the Gemini male, it does seem like the, —say it and then run?? option is the preferred method.

Notice how Mercury is running??_




Any way, I??ll leave you fine folks alone, now. Have a great day!



Lol...notice how Mercury is running, hahahaha. True. If I wasn't interested I would either let them know how I felt if they were really persistent, because that can be annoying or just ignore them & hope they get the hint. I cannot string someone along if I'm not interested. Not even a little. The gem guy I dated did those very things in the beginning of the relationship. But he never verbally expressed that his feelings had changed or didn't when he decided to vanish. He just did.
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The broken hearted threads similarities seem to only ly with the initial attraction. It doesn't seem that their situations, be it the reasons behind their behaviors are similar. Or what are you seeing aeg?



Both the Gem and the Virgo, here, fell for their men and then their men switched gears. Both men are Mercury ruled. It looks like both men set the ground for a new relationship to develop and then decided not to pursue it. The reasons are obviously different as to why the two men changed up on their women, but they both apparently didn't fall in love, or however you want to describe it, as quickly as the women did. It looks to me like both these men were more detached than their women, but didn't appear that way or act in that manner. I say this simply because both men want to move on, and the women are like, "what happened?"

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see again I am yet another gemini female who`s virgo switched after 9 months, all seemed gorgeous, compatible ect ect, no bad behaviour just asked why i never get invited out and that was it Bam! turns out he is severe commitment phobe but wants to remain friends, wth is going on!?
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@anearthygemini: Do you think I should contact him at the end of my holidays and ask him for some explanation? Maybe it will help getting some closure but I don't know if that's something I'm entitled to since I'm no longer in a relationship with him.

It's really been rough on me these past few days. I go through stages of missing him, then hating his guts and crying with rage.
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I might approach him asking for some closure face to face (because he dumped me via text like the coward he knows he is) but I will give it some time. I think I wear my emotions on my sleeve (I always do but even more so now) and I wouldn't want him to know how much I still hurt because of him.

I still wonder if this rekindled relationship with his ex is an aftermath of Venus going into retrograde and then direct again. I read up on this already but I'm not sure if that would be relevant to this particular situation.

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I look back at my past relationships fondly. I've learned from every one of them. However, I do not live in the past, which is the difference. You can't go back.
I'm friends with most of my exes, probably because the relationships started out as friendships, for the most part. We already know each other very well, and the sexual tension is out of the way. Initially the new gf may be irritated by it, but eventually they see there is absolutely no desire to go back to a ltr. Recently, an ex's fianc?e asked me to be one of her bridesmaids, lol. She knows I have no designs on her man.
To get to that point, though, there has to be no unfinished business, and the ltr has to truly be over. It doesn't sound like that's the case with your Gemini.
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As gently as possible.. you are/were THIS hooked/gosmacked after a MONTH?! Wow.. good thing you weren't with him 5 years.. then YOU could have been the sobbing ex unable to deal with losing him and banging on his door like a lunatic.

Being the rebound girl never feels good.. and feels especially shitty when you think you had so much chemistry and magic.. until he goes back to his ex (for whatever reason -- him not being over her, her mental instability, him feeling responsible, etc etc.. doesn't matter why, cuz the end result is the same. He CHOSE her, he is CHOOSING to live his life this way -- and do you REALLY want to be involved with a guy hung up on crazy?!)

If you can manage to put it into perspective, and keep it moving, you'll find your way out of this mess and maybe even come out better on the other side.
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Lol...notice how Mercury is running, hahahaha. True. If I wasn't interested I would either let them know how I felt if they were really persistent, because that can be annoying or just ignore them & hope they get the hint. I cannot string someone along if I'm not interested. Not even a little. The gem guy I dated did those very things in the beginning of the relationship. But he never verbally expressed that his feelings had changed or didn't when he decided to vanish. He just did.



Notice how Mercury??s mouth is firmly shut?

Hehehe. I am partially kidding. So, don—t take me too serious about my Mercury comments.

I think us Mercury ruled ladies are going to have look inside too and see how we handle delivering our opinions and decisions. Do we say it and then cut and run?

Earthy, shyly raises a hand.

In relationships we often have things reflected back at us that we can't see in ourselves. So, Mercury??s Daughter??s it's couch time. Let's look deep within ourselves and do some psychoanalysis, here, and get in touch with our own inner —say it, and run impulse.?? 🙂

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Lol! True. I believe I was being mirrored. 😉
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Posted by marythevirgo
Thank you guys and gals for the input.

I guess my intention is to move on as he clearly stated he loved his ex but a tiny part of me (the vindicative one) hopes this unhealthy relationship will blow in his face and that he'll contact me to apologize about the way he treated me. I'm at a stage where I would give him a second chance if he gave me some clear explanations.

Maybe he lied about everything regarding his relationship with this girl (no sex for 5 years, her being crazy) but he didn't strike me as a compulsive liar. But I could be wrong.



I can't go any further 😛

You deserve better. Don't deal with shit like this.
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On the contrary, Domino.. it wasn't a personal attack.. and if you knew me at all, you'd know that.

BUT.. let's see if I can clarify this a bit..

1) Mary doesn't know this guy, not really. Not after a month. He could be a total nutjob, and it hadn't shown itself yet. What DOES show itself is the way he behaved like a PUA and a Narc, actually CREATING these "deep" feelings and longing in her.. this was an INTENSE courtship.. then the cooling off.. now the pulling away.. all designed to get her to fall impossibly deep, to CREATE within her a feeling that she'd do anything to have this wonderful guy back... (what probably comes next.. he slowly comes back around, "missing" her and "needing" her, she's the "only one who understands".. she's the "only one he can open up to".. and eventually trying to have her hanging by a thread, accepting his crumbs.. so he can have his cake and eat it too, and not have to give up EITHER woman.)

2) Why does this scenario seem likely to me? Cuz he's got a "crazy" ex. One he was with for FIVE YEARS.. one who is SO off the deep end for him that she bangs on his door crying, and he can safely tell his NEW girl that his OLD girl is a lunatic. But how'd she get to that point? Generally with a lot of help from a wishy-washy emotionally unavailable asshole that keeps her dancing like a puppet for years (and already said he hadn't had sex with her in all those years -- wut? I mean.. truth or a lie - that's some crazy shit right there!)

3) ALL Mary knows is what he tells her.. and he blames the "crazy ex" for everything.. including HIS OWN PAST CHOICES, and INCLUDING his CURRENT CHOICES with Mary. See, it's not HIS fault, it's someone else's.

4) Maybe Mary is the lucky one now.. she only had him for a MONTH, got a SMALL TASTE of what he can do to a woman's emotions, the highs and the lows and the intense yearning.. now, can she imagine FIVE YEARS of it?.. and how her mental and emotional state might be by the end of that?? Shit, in that case.. she could EASILY be the next one banging on his door, freaking out. And then SHE'S be the one he calls a lunatic .. to his NEW girl.. while he ONCE AGAIN lays all the blame for HIS CHOICES on the EX'S feet to make the NEW girl feel sorry for his plight and want to help and comfort and love him.

So my advice remains... get perspective from him, Mary. SEE that a relationship THAT fast/hot is not normal.. you're lucky to get out relatively unscathed. Last girl wasn't so lucky. :c
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"I go through stages of missing him, then hating his guts and crying with rage."

Sort of like his ex-girlfriend, now you know why she's the unstable one in the relationship.

Sounds like you and his ex have something in common.

"because he dumped me via text like the coward he knows he is"

I can only imagine how he dumped his ex (most likely the same way), could be the reason why she showed up at the door sobbing & begging for some kind of resolution, seems like you & the ex have something in common, in love with a manipulative power hungry Gem on your hands.

"That's it. First girl he had relations with in over 5 years. Strange, isn't it?"

This is one of those lies that took me aback for a second, OMG run for your life, don't look back or you will be on pschoactive drugs.

Reminds me of that movie Heartbreak kid Ben Stiller (Eddie) sees a beautiful woman Lila getting her purse stolen and Eddie tries to stop the perp unsuccessfully of course, the perp was frothing at the mouth like a real nut job telling Eddie to back off, little did Eddie know this would be his FATE some day, the reality is this so called nut job was STEALING HIS OWN WALLET BACK lol and Ben stiller (Eddie) thought he was saving her, rescuing her from the big bad perp only to learn later that the frothing mouth perp who desperately tried to steal her purse was her ex attempting to reclaim HIS OWN THINGS--WALLET & KEYS but of course it's too late, Eddie has fallen in love & married the REAL nut job.

Point being, you can't go by appearances, this woman (the ex) most likely is the sane one and the Gem is the nut job, you dodged a bad situation so instead of feeling hurt, SIGH RELIEF that this crazy ass person is torturing her not you, you only got a month--try 5 years, you'd be a total wreck too.

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OMG same with my previous gemini ex. however, i was the one he "chose" his friends would say its out of guilt. and just because he is caring. it killed me that overall he chose to lie to me and be honest with her. that was my answer..through the fluff talk. sweet nothingness. Generally, i learned that a gemini wouldn't necessary go back to an ex..its more about closure and ideas they haven't done or explored..if he left for selfish reason or did something bad with the former..he would 'logically" try to get out of it.but emotionally is different.

what i learned is...every gem will be different in the manner of speaking. however, the core is pretty much consistent across the board. is..

to know the absolute truth of the gem in ones life..you'll have to be patient and analyze between two of the twins ideas..comments..actions. WHAT THEY DONT DO is your answer. not what they do. makes sense?

kindness, care, fun, loving, attentive, encouraging, sweet, romantic words/actions can mean a lot when measured to virgo.but with a gemini man that is just their nature. Being a gemini moon myself i find men to get confused with the way i am...hot and cold...thinking im "interested" when im sitting there confused as to what i did to make them feel that way. Im assuming its the same with gemini men...women dont understand why they do and say the things they do while conflicting in other ways. its fairly easy to tell what the truth is within a gemini...if you ask them a direct question and they dont answer your question then that is your answer

for example, do you see long term with me?

if a gem responds: I really like you, but i dont know where i am going but i would like to pursue it.
(truth: he just doesn't see it with you. but doesn't want you to leave him because of it. so...he'll neither give a definite answer)when a gemini doesnt give you a definite response. like the example..you'll find your answer.

if you find yourself sitting there wondeirng why hes so sweet blah blah blah when you guys are together and during the rest of the week hes barely there or non-existent..well..THERE YOU GO! thats your answer. he isn't as into you as you may think..even if he can persuade you into staying longer

I would have to say...YES..generally they can be. my ex was always looking towards the past with regrets..work.friends.love. repeat.

im pretty sure my gemini ex is doing the same motion...dating...moving forward..then one day he'll see me again and feel
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Posted by candi3bb
but not all gemini's are like that. some made those mistakes, and learned how to handle their life properly and gain integrity!



Hi Candi!!! 🙂. You always have insightful info. I don't thing it's a Gemini thing, a Virgo thing, a Cancer thing, etc. It's a MAN thing. He was MALE before ANYTHING else. That's something that happends to men in general. If a man wants you, he's coming for you, & he WILL make an effort for you, regardless to what his horoscope sun sign is. A woman was blessed with gut instincts which never fail. She truly knows when a man really loves her or not. She simply feels it. You just know.