What happened to Leos being givers.NOT

So me and my Ex LEO meet down South while i was there for biz. Me and my co-workers planned this certain week/weekend because it is her B'day last Sat and mine is on Wed.

The first pissy thing that happened is that he expressed his concern about me being intimate w/other guys and said he did not feel confortable with that if we are dating. Told him the truth, he has been the only man I have slept with for months.... but I do go on dates. He told me he was sleeping with no one else as well. We are 1500 miles apart, what does he expect? He questioned me every time my cell phone rang "Who is that...your boyfriend?"...on and on...

Well, we all went out to celebrate on Saturday, me and my GF exchanged cards, etc. But guess what? Not one thing from my Ex- husband...not a card...nothing. I did not say anything but he did mention "Sophie, your B'day isnt until Wednesday" So perhaps there will be at least a little card or something on Wed....doubt it though. I even bought him a BB Cap from LA last month and gave it to him this weekend.

But no gift or card even after he requests me to NOT be intimate with others? Huh?? Whats that about—

He wants me to come back down next month for Thanksgiving...this time away from my co-wrokers who joined us for this trip.

Think I am just over reacting (typical Scorpio) and shouldn't expect even a B'day Card from my ex-husband whom I have only been dating for a few months?

Is it me or ...?

I think you are over reacting. If he doesn't produce the goods on your b-day, to the curb I say!

did you get anything, yet?

Hi my friends,

NOTHING from ex-hubby...but some flowers and a gift box delivered from a customer and a friend.

Mail came and NADA

Considering he knows I am also very sick with strep and bronchitis too....this is really sad when everyone recognizes your birthday but the guy you are intimate with and was your ex-husband.

Not looking too good....

Oh honey! I am so sorry you are so sick and on your birthday too!

Boyz! Nothing but trouble.

I am curious about what you are going to do too.

Are you going to lay the smack down? If he is a smart man, he is just building up suspence and will show up at your door with chicken noodle soup tonight. If he isn't a smart man, he deserves the boot.

Happy birthday BTW. I know you don't feel well and your ex is being a dink but I do hope you have a wonderful birthday, even if you have to celebrate it in July.

Maybe not show up at your door but do SOMETHING!

If he doesn't, she needs to get herself another lover and have a Big Birthday Do-Over in July.

We, of course, will be all invited.

You should here my latest Leo dilemna. Did I drunk dial or not? I have been in fits of laughter all day. Last night I was laughing so hard I was crying. What to do? What to do?

LS,

Now you got our attention. Please tell... 🙂

Long story short ... I may have drunk dialed him last Thursday.

I DID drunk dialed 7yr Scorp ... which I don't remember doing and don't remember thinking of calling him. BUT I did have the intention of calling the leo with the same info.

I REALLY don't remember calling 7yr Scorp (and that isn't a big deal at all) but I DO remember finding my address book open to the Leo's number the next morning.

My working theory is that I looked up the number, was going to call, but decided better of it. I kind of remember thinking no and not calling. That being said I REALLY don't remember calling 7yr at all and was quite shocked when he told me especially as I don't remember even having the intention to call him.

So the question is: DID I drunk dial the Leo or not?

This whole situation with him is hysterical. It is a flipping disaster from start to finish. I really haven't laughed so much in years. He truly brings out the bozo in me.

Well, at least you can laugh about the situation which is a positive thing. Laughter is the best medicine. Since your situation with the Leo is hysterical now, just imagine how much more fun it can become down the line.

See?

Girls get why this is hilarious.

What makes it worse though ... is this would be the second time I have drunk dialed him. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The first time I left a very sexual message ... this time I think I was trying to be helpful, if indeed I did phone him.

My roomate is now going to hide my phone when I go out. HAHAHAHAHA! And people wonder why Libras hate the phone.

Seriously. This whole thing is a disaster. Start .... to finish.

Remember:
Nothing gained without pain. This situation is not a disaster whatsoever because you can laugh at it. You take the sting out of it then. If you couldn't laugh, then that would be a disaster. Look on the bright side, he knows you have him on your mind, if you indeed did phone him. No matter what, don't worry. People are human.

True. It isn't a disaster. It is just funny.

In the long and short, it really doesn't matter. I am just enjoying this unexpected side of me.

That is what counts. Life teaches us unexpected things about ourselves. We have many sides to us. It just takes different situations for us to show them. Keep on enjoying this unexpected side of you. It's your time.

LS...drunk dialing...love it! Oh well!!

ok...its 5:00....day is done. Nothing from EX.

I will not answer his phone call for a little bit.

When I do finally speak to him...I will tell him my feelings are hurt and see what he says.

Don't know what else to say....

(((Sophie))))

I hope something will still happen for you. If he was just a guy you started dating it would be one thing, but the fact you have history ... unacceptable.

He will call...he has called every night since I left him on Sunday down South.

But what do I say? He wants me to spend the holidays with him but cannot send me a card for my B'day?

Do I ignore his calls for a bit?

Do I answer but tell him my feelings are hurt?

I thought about him enough to buy him a $ 40 hat from Trump Golf Course last month in LA and gave it to him last weekend, he couldn't have ordered some freakin $ 20 daises to be delivered?

Wow....I thought Leo's were thoughtful and generous....NOT

Sorry...I'm sick and grouchy...😢

Yeah! What happened honey? how are you feeling?

NO CALL MY FRIENDS....

WHAT—!!!—

Okay. This makes me think that my theory is correct. It *seems* that if you indicate you like a leo male in anyway, they will run. EVEN when you know they like you.

I need to end this.

There's more to the story girls.

While we were at dinner Sat night, he was tring to feel my GF "up" (in front of me and my other co-worker)and was saying how he wants to have a threeway with both of us and "bang us in the shower"...on and on....

My GF told him... " you are pig and get away from me...you have a beautiful girl sitting accross from you, go pay her some attention"

I was mortified and feeling so little. Embarressed that a 44 YO guy I am dating would do that....I have way too much repsect for myself and for my girlfriend.

AND....on top of that...not one thing for my B'day

PS. Sat night was our Birthday dinner...guess who paid? Me and my Girlfriend!! He didn't even offer! That weekend was a freebie for him that SOB

Then he tells ME to be freakin monogomous—??

DONE...Stick a Fork in ME

Oh honey!

That guy is a jerk! You are so much better off without him. I am sorry.

I am sure this won't be the end of him. He will be back but ask yourself if anyone is worth that.

Hi LS...

No, he didn't run....he will call...over and over again. 2-3 days will go by w/o talking to me and he'll call me asking me if I am M.I.A. as he always does. The more I ignore him...the worse it will be...did it done it been there.

I never told him I liked him, actually the opposite. I told him I was dating others and "we'll see what happens"

I feel stupid so I didn't want to tell all of you. I am a smart woman..what the hell was I thinking that he changed—?

Live and learn

(((Sophie)))

I wish you lived here. I would invite you out tonight to take your mind off.

He could have been trying to make you jealous so you pursue him. I don't get boyz. They are difficult.

And there is nothing to be embarrassed about. Trusting someone is not a show of weakness it is a show of strength. It is often harder to believe the good in people, when we see so much of the bad. Having an open heart is a good thing.

LS...I think you are right about trying to make me jealous...it didn't work, it just pissed me off. Its all good, I aged well and he didn't so I'm too good for him anyways. My co-worker said "He is NOT your type...not as handsome as the other guys you date"...its just that LEO aura or cockiness I guess that got me.

I dont know where you live LS...but going out with "the girls" tonight.

Still sick but have not celebrated my B'day yet (in bed all day yesterday)...so if you are in the area....:-)) COME HAVE A DRINK GIRLIE!!!!

its just that LEO aura or cockiness I guess that got me.

I hear you sister. Tooooo sexy for their own damn good AND mine. hee hee!

I forgot you were still sick. How are you feeling? I am in Canada so I don't think I will be able to pop by anytime soon. 🙂

let's not forget ... Leos are a good shag.

sigh.

not that I am obsessed.

(looks around the room nervously)

Canada? Brrrrrrrr...Its cold here in East coast so muct be even colder there!

Aw....ya know what? OK...here it goes(venting)...**SIGH**...

* He's Irish (say enough already?)
* 2 minute Man
* Couldnt even "take care of me" (although I faked it and he was so stupid he believed it)

Ok..rant over

Really?

That has SOOOO not been my experience.

And one of them was Irish ... and let's just say the Irish curse .... someone got it backwards.

sigh!

So basically he was an unattractive, middle aged loser, who had no class, was a lousy shag, and didn't treat you well? I think you win.

by that I mean .... being done with him and finding someone else .... you win.

:-)))))

I never had luck with the Irish...they all had the curse....hmmmmm

Well .... he was Northern Irish ... perhaps that was the difference.

sigh!

I really hope to strike up a nice bar fliration tonight. I need flirtation! With a boy that I like!

the moment you get better sophie, I order you to go and have a nice flirtation with a boy you like. It does the soul good.

You too hunny!
I'm on my WAY!!

So after a week of not hearing from him on my B'day, Ex husband LEO calls Tuesday night and leaves a message. I did not return his call.

Last night he calls once AGAIN...I did not answer. Leaves a pathetic message "Where are you hiding? You havn't returned my calls? I want you to know I have been sick all week with the same thing you had, so give me a call when you get htis message"

I have no desire to return his calls, after what he did in front of me to my friend and nothign for my B'day...he can kiss my arse

Phew...I feel better

OH MY!!!

Leo just called 2 more times and didn't leave a message....what a psycho! What is it with their control issues—

Wow....

Men understand silence. He knows he is pissed. You aren't reacting by bitching him out so he knows he is in trouble. He knows you are walking away.

Sorry should say: He know YOU are pissed.

Naw...he won't send flowers, he'll keep dialing until his fingers hurt.

How long do i keep letting it go to voice mail? Do I confront him at some point or what?

Well, Mr. tricky LEO was very sly.
Since I was not answering his calls, he decided to do *67 to restrict his number , of course i answered as I thought it could have been a customer. I was out with friends when he called. Said I would have to call him back later.

I got home at 10 last night and decided to call him and confront him re: the friend issue and the no B'day issue.

He groveled to no end...apologizing and wishing I told him before. He said he KNEW thats why i was not speaking to him. He wants to make it up to me....bla bla...feels bad and knows he messed up.

I said "You and I have changed over the years and I am not the same person I use to be...I have respect for myself and demand respect from any person I am with, what you did was disrespectful and unaaceptable to me"

He agreed...asked for my address (hmmm...shoudl I expect flowers today?).

He asked me when I was coming to FLA...I said no time soon...unless you buy me a ticket.

Don;t know what to do on this one. It just isn't right.

Choco...you make very good points...

There's a good reason he's your ex husband?

Brian...yes there is a very good reason! But it was 18 years ago and divorced 15 yrs ago...thought there was a possibility of change but I see nothing has changed.

Choco...you are right. The groveling last night was pathetic but I think its because he is not use to rejection and wants control (ie: blobking his number so I p/u the phone).

Will be interesting if he will be smart enough to send me an apology delivery of flowers today....not like it will make a difference but at least its something...

"Will be interesting if he will be smart enough to send me an apology delivery of flowers today....not like it will make a difference but at least its something..."

That statement, right there, means that you are still interested. I understand that there's something about him that draws you to him. Also, it sounds like you do enjoy a little drama (don't we all:-) But I have to agree w/ Choco...you gave him a shot to see if he has changed over the past 18yrs, and he has it. I suggest you stay away from him...avoid his calls and do not engage. He will keep haunting you as his prey, but if you leave him alone, long enough, he will dissappear.

Stop making excuses for him, because it's obvious he has not changed and will, therefore, never change. Good luck.