Even I Think Libra Men Are RIDICULOUS

So I had to post this....Hi all! I'm new to this board anywho I'm a 26 yr old Libra girl. I met this Libra guy he is two years older. We met at my old job he was there with one of my old coworkers who I was extremely close to. Anyway he got my number under false pretenses....he was interested in working with me. Anyways he started texting and calling me. I noticed that the texts were so not business related which pissed me off....I mean he could have just asked for my number, let me know what he wanted, I could have gave him a fast NO and he could've gone on his way!

Anyways I finally agreed to meet him. We met at a bar on his turf....a test I believe but I handled it like a pro. Well we had a great conversation and I was shocked at his intelligence. So we agreed to hang out later that night as just friends. After a couple hours I text him to see where he was and he goes....'i have to be honest I want you so bad" or some nonsense. I responded by telling him to snap out of it cuz I dont mix business with pleasure.

Anyway we never met up mainly because I really did not want to be bothered it was like come on dude...how many times have I heard the I want you so bad line get creative will you! About a month passes he texts me ya da ya da ya da I entertain him mainly because he was entertaining...he should be thats his profession. So last weekend I finally agree to meet him. Well we hang out and when I say we it was me and all 90 of his friends employees whatever you want to call them

So during this field trip lol we go out. While out I did my own thing because I knew tons of ppl and I mean he and I are not in a relationship so I didn't want potentials to get the wrong idea. Plus my ex was there who I have been communicating with and I DEFINITELY didnt want him to get the wrong idea...at the time 24hrs later I told him to kick rocks, AGAIN!

Anywho we leave and he starts telling me about himself and his friends and the women he likes. So he goes there are rules when we go out...I start laughing...he wasnt joking. So he was like tonight was a test you passed I loved how you werent all under me. He then told me how they looked for me while we were out, he had been having his friends watch me and would contact him when they saw me out (b4 that nite), and how his main thing was honesty and he doesnt care about what I do with other guys as long as Im honest.

We ended up sleeping together that night. Since then things have been so so weird! The complete opposite of what he told me, how we would be friends no matter what etc. So yesterday I go out to this event that he invited me too. well it was a two part event I participated in the first half but wasnt going to the second half until he asked me too.

Well I text him to find out what the plan was...he never answers...I ask again...nothing. So I'm like cool. So I end up going with another guy, it was totally platonic we met at the earlier event and he said I could roll with him but I needed to go because I want a career in the ent. industry. So we are backstage and one of the dudes ppl comes up to the guy im with (he knows him) and asks who he is with. Guy Im with points to me. So dudes friend says something and then we walk on stage. Well my friend I was with points him out and says thats so and so I go oh I don't know him...he responds ohhhhhh he KNOWS YOU! I'm like what—?

So I approach him like do I know you....he admits we never met...WEIRD INCIDENT NO 1. So I go dwnstairs and du da du da...there is dude with his ppl. So I am standing talking to a friend and he yells to my friend "YO I dont like who youre with" Im like What— you are kidding me dude this is business... so i ignore him and the comment! Out of the blue he walks up gives me a hug and asks how I am vice versa and we part ways... well that was our interaction. For the rest of the night I noticed that everytime I would turn around one of his ppl would be by me or watching me WTF dude! Well I end up leaving because the guy I was with wanted to and I didnt want to walk alone.

Today I send him a msg....he never answers! So finally I msg him, "dude I'm not sure if you think by responding to me you'll give me a false idea so let me set the record straight. I heard what you said lst week loud and clear! What happened between us was in the moment b/c of attraction and b/c I had thought you wouldn't act funny. I thought you were a cool person but whateva. Anyways maybe I'll see you out! Take care homie!"

Like for real.....you ignore me, then think that I'm not supposed to go to an event i participated in, then embarrass me by yelling about not liking the company my friend is with, hug me, then have your friends watch me to the point that ppl that I dont know know me... Really I should have mased his arse with my Keep Away Dog Spray!

I mean it was the most absurd behavior that I have seen WTF! So can anyone help me I mean I''m a libra myself and I'm even stumped.....did this guy catch feelings b/c we slept together? Did he lose interest? I'm not concerned it was over the sex because well lets just say....there were TRULY no complaints on his end....I know that one for a fact

So Libra dudes WTF made him turn into BABY JANE————

Sound like an immature youngster that got possessive after sex...You knooooo how libras are. We get possessive and controlling!

It sounds to me like you both had an equal hand in the rediculousness of this situation.

Freaky deaky... He has psycho written all over him, but...you played right into it.

Stay away from him and don't send him anymore messages. Having his friends stake out watching my every move would unsettle me and piss me off.

Thank you Arian!

It sounds to me like you both had an equal hand in the rediculousness of this situation.

I see and may I ask how I played into his ridiculousness? Here is the thing, in this situation I have to be very careful how I handle the situation because clearly I am not dealing with an adult, therefore, I wouldn't put it past him to try and spread rumors. So if there was a way to maintain a civil relationship to avoid awkwardness in the future that is what I tried to do...

Well she is the other woman so to speak, he told her that was what he was looking for unless I'm mistaken, I swear I remember her saying this guy is married or heavily involved with someone and he wanted something on the side which means don't call/contact me,

Different guy! I don't do married guys PERIOD!!! I told him to go bag it over the phone before there was even a face to face encounter!!!!!!!!!! Different guy and this one is single!

Ok

my apologies, thats why I said if i'm not mistaken...

single guy = douche bag

lol!

I think she's just mad and insulted bc he's acting like she's like other women when she stuck by the agreement. he's hating on her and she's trying to prosper in the entertainment world where he already is established. i'd be upset too.


Right and Im no woman......I mean he did tell me about the kind of women he likes in a relationship.....but why that would apply to me I have no idea! He's just salty because he thought he was going to handle me and put it down and I handled him!

Oh and I sent him another message saying that I am not sure what I did to him to have his ppl tell my personal business to my business associates but whatever it is I would appreciate it if he came to me and we discuss it like adults so that I am not caught off guard. I cannot have ppl get the wrong perception of me at this stage I am not established where you are so I am sure you can understand what I am talking about!"

point blank........I am not playing these kid a $ $ games with him....and he really doesn't want me to get riled up even more!

Ok

my apologies, thats why I said if i'm not mistaken...

single guy = douche bag

lol!

No prob...I told the married guy he might want to change his ways with the recent bust in texas and all! Not a good look...Not a good look at all!

Freaky deaky... He has psycho written all over him, but...you played right into it.

how?

If you want him to take youn seriously then don't hide behide chicken shut text meashes. Texting IMO is non confrontational and I personally think it it is a sign of weakness. I think you have enjoyed this psychoness but now you are in deep with him and played the game too far. You say he is immature...if that is how you feel, why hang on to anything with him? Do not worry about him spreading rumors about you...that is a weak excuse.

Sound like an immature youngster that got possessive after sex...You knooooo how libras are. We get possessive and controlling!

I thought that was only the girls—? I never dated a libra before. I know I get possessive but I have been much much better probably b/c I havent had sex in a long time before the aforementioned incident.

If you want him to take youn seriously then don't hide behide chicken shut text meashes. Texting IMO is non confrontational and I personally think it it is a sign of weakness. I think you have enjoyed this psychoness but now you are in deep with him and played the game too far. You say he is immature...if that is how you feel, why hang on to anything with him? Do not worry about him spreading rumors about you...that is a weak excuse.


Well here is the thing......he lives in a different world. The entertainment world is very very different! most business deals as well as personal communication takes place over text because you can respond/address other issues while doing something else. I do not feel that one night together means I am in deep....and there was no game to played because I went under what he told me he was looking for. Lastly, yeah I do need to worry about rumors because my future profession is built on relationships.....dont you hear how many untalented ppl are making records etc. That is how ppl get jobs, contracts, clients, etc......because of relationships and reputation! so it may sound weak to you but it's reality to me!

Thus the reason the blackberry is called the crackberry!!!!!! We all communicate by crackberry! Because you are on your real phone all the time handling business or trying to keep your personal life together!

I'm a bit confused about you and this guy, on one hand I feel like you walked right into him just getting what he wanted, he didn't seem to have to prove much to get you into the bed and this happens all the time, men never get the chance to gain respect for the woman and yet I'm not sure if you fully understood what you were getting yourself into, I mean was his game that tight? Was it something he said that made you decide to sleep with him b/c it seemed you weren't even interested at first.

plus the texting him with no replies from him resonates desperate now don't jump down my throat but I never keep texting someone if they don't reply back after the 1st text, its as though you wanted more or wanted to save face b/c lets face it, it f*cks with our self esteem when a man comes off a certain way and then turn around and do a 360. The texting can be used against you at some point, not saying he's diabolical so please no more text.

Wouldn't it have been easier to simply ignore him all together and remove yourself from the situation when you saw how inappropriate he was being. It seemed you may have enjoyed the game a lil bit.

Here is the thing......I havent dated in awhile I mean I have dated but I havent had sex in 2 years and well he seemed like an ok fling. No strings no expectations someone to hang out with and who I could kick it with......


I guess I didnt look at it as desperate because it was not like I wanted a relationship... so my texts weren't whatcha doin? or whats up with you? ya da ya da.....I really didnt care. some of the texts were about how horrible the musicians were that I listened to at the event which we talked about when we hung out. I mean it is the same as a friend so I didnt look at it as a desperate ply cuz ummmm I dont really want him like that.


I did ignore him at the event...he approached me. And no I could not leave because I came with a business associate who was introducing me to some of his associates, and he was not ready to leave....when he was I left. But until that time I ignored him.

I'm a bit confused about you and this guy, on one hand I feel like you walked right into him just getting what he wanted, he didn't seem to have to prove much to get you into the bed and this happens all the time, men never get the chance to gain respect for the woman and yet I'm not sure if you fully understood what you were getting yourself into, I mean was his game that tight? Was it something he said that made you decide to sleep with him b/c it seemed you weren't even interested at first.

Yeah he acted like a friend.....and really no one cared about his game... what do they call it getting your feet wet...

If you know your reputation is based on your direct and indirect actions then its time you exercise a bit of self control and treat your outings/group meetings as serious business no matter how fun, it should be business ONLY or at some point you will gain an unwanted reputation that can hurt you in the long run, if your going to sleep with someone make sure you keep your shiz on the hush hush, meaning NO ONE knows nor can prove it and this may mean having a business phone and a play phone that you ONLY use to play with your male suitors and change that number from time to time, which may also mean keep everything you do on the low and trust no one unless you know she will keep her mouth shut, best to leave your associates and friends out of the equation...think gurl, I know your smart so yeah think about what your doing before doing it.

Also use caution about how and with whom you get your feet wet, these guys have enough friends and when he's telling you things 95% of it is to get SOMETHING and its cool if you don't mind that but protect your reputation b/c if he never texted you well he can be malicious and tell your client look she texted me X amount of times and she's a stalker/psycho and you never know a persons motivation/intent so look out for you.

If you know your reputation is based on your direct and indirect actions then its time you exercise a bit of self control and treat your outings/group meetings as serious business no matter how fun, it should be business ONLY or at some point you will gain an unwanted reputation that can hurt you in the long run, if your going to sleep with someone make sure you keep your shiz on the hush hush, meaning NO ONE knows nor can prove it and this may mean having a business phone and a play phone that you ONLY use to play with your male suitors and change that number from time to time, which may also mean keep everything you do on the low and trust no one unless you know she will keep her mouth shut, best to leave your associates and friends out of the equation...think gurl, I know your smart so yeah think about what your doing before doing it.


Everything you're saying I did......I have a play phone and a biz phone...I called him from the play phone.

I came to him alone....When we went out I drove my own car and I separated when we got there. When we left I went back to where he was stayin in my car. All was done alone...

We ran into each other at the 2nd event because he was performing...I wasn't even going until the guy who was in the the earlier event with me who was from a record label said I needed to.


so I am not sure how else or what else I should have done.....

your good, seems you covered bases but remember rumors get around quickly and once men find out a guy has did his thing with you no matter a lie or truth, your clients may not just be your client for business purposes so use caution.

Also use caution about how and with whom you get your feet wet, these guys have enough friends and when he's telling you things 95% of it is to get SOMETHING and its cool if you don't mind that but protect your reputation b/c if he never texted you well he can be malicious and tell your client look she texted me X amount of times and she's a stalker/psycho and you never know a persons motivation/intent so look out for you.


Very true.....I guess I didnt look at it harming me because he is the one and only person I have been with in that area....my rule is 1 per customer. I used to date a guy who plays in the NFL after we broke up...that was it no more NFL players so I treat the entertainment business the same way! Don''t get me wrong I get mad respect because dudes already know whats up with me....I really just want him to honor the agreement plain and simple.... he was the first and will be the last. Trust me if I got with every man that approached me I would not have time to even post these msgs I'd be too busy sleeping with them all...all day every day.

your good, seems you covered bases but remember rumors get around quickly and once men find out a guy has did his thing with you no matter a lie or truth, your clients may not just be your client for business purposes so use caution.

Tell me about it......they already do that even before that! That is another thing that pisses me off....for women artist management is a catch 22 business. You get in the door if you are pretty but once inside everyone wants to sleep with you......

"I see and may I ask how I played into his ridiculousness?"
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"Anyway he got my number under false pretenses....he was interested in working with me. Anyways he started texting and calling me. I noticed that the texts were so not business related which pissed me off....I mean he could have just asked for my number, let me know what he wanted, I could have gave him a fast NO and he could've gone on his way!"

You say had he been blunt in communicating his intentions you would have turned him down....yet decide to go on a date with him.

"After a couple hours I text him to see where he was and he goes....'i have to be honest I want you so bad" or some nonsense. I responded by telling him to snap out of it cuz I dont mix business with pleasure. "

He then bluntly tells you his desires and you do turn him down.

"Plus my ex was there who I have been communicating with and I DEFINITELY didnt want him to get the wrong idea...at the time 24hrs later I told him to kick rocks, AGAIN!"

Then you go out with him again...and turn him down again.

"Anywho we leave and he starts telling me about himself and his friends and the women he likes. So he goes there are rules when we go out...I start laughing...he wasnt joking. So he was like tonight was a test you passed I loved how you werent all under me. He then told me how they looked for me while we were out, he had been having his friends watch me and would contact him when they saw me out (b4 that nite), and how his main thing was honesty and he doesnt care about what I do with other guys as long as Im honest. "

But, instead of parting ways you continue to engage him/allow him to engage you. He tells you he is playing games with you. After wishing you had turned him down, then actually turned him down, then stayed after turning him down AND he tells you he is playing games you reward his behavior by...

"We ended up sleeping together that night."

And you have to ask how you had a hand in this? Does everyone ever not have a hand in the situations they find themselves in.

Unless I am COMPLETELY missing something here....player got played. It's not that spectacular.

You say had he been blunt in communicating his intentions you would have turned him down....yet decide to go on a date with him.

When we met up in February.....the date happened in May we had been talking by phone since then...


"Plus my ex was there who I have been communicating with and I DEFINITELY didnt want him to get the wrong idea...at the time 24hrs later I told him to kick rocks, AGAIN!"

Uh this is my ex boyfriend...not that guy! I told my ex boyfriend to kick rocks 24 hrs later not this guy..........

"Anywho we leave and he starts telling me about himself and his friends and the women he likes. So he goes there are rules when we go out...I start laughing...he wasnt joking. So he was like tonight was a test you passed I loved how you werent all under me. He then told me how they looked for me while we were out, he had been having his friends watch me and would contact him when they saw me out (b4 that nite), and how his main thing was honesty and he doesnt care about what I do with other guys as long as Im honest. "

uh where does it say I wish that I had turned him down.......the above is what he said to me...which led me to believe he was cool and we could be friends.......

Unless I am COMPLETELY missing something here....player got played. It's not that spectacular.

uh yeah dude I think you are..........I can fill in the blanks though if u tell me whats missing....

You know libras have to process everything and then we reach our conclusion. Well I think this is the deal:

he likes me but is getting clowned by his friends..because it and I go against their "image." He didnt know how to express that he liked me so he acted out. He ignored me when I was supposed to go out with him because his friends were giving him crap about me and him being in love. he has no idea how to approach me because I am different from the girls he is used to dating...I have class!!!! etc etc etc

I just remembered we had a discussion in which it could pretty much be deduced image is everything.....and he is one of those libras that has not cut off the dead weight friends yet...he'll learn. we all do.

I think this guy is more disturbed than egotistical......I'm egotistical but not to the point of psychosis....

For some reason I am not one of those nice libras I am working on it but for the moment I get pretty raw and uncut. Therefore not only would I have no problem telling him he needs help and to see a psychologist, but I would also give him the name and number of one that treats schizophrenia.....

libragyrl, I felt the same like nic did. anyway he has replied exactly what i would hav replied. you gotta spend a lot of time in front of a mirror and look at yourself. your thoughts, the rationalities in it and how you handled each situation and how u acted it.

Or there is a possibility that one of you is not really a libra but a virgo.

libragyrl, I felt the same like nic did. anyway he has replied exactly what i would hav replied. you gotta spend a lot of time in front of a mirror and look at yourself. your thoughts, the rationalities in it and how you handled each situation and how u acted it.

Or there is a possibility that one of you is not really a libra but a virgo.

thelibran......I appreciate your standpoint. And you know what my recent life experiences has caused me to do that with every aspect of my life, reflect that is. But here is the thing that you and nic are failing to factor into the preset equations you have formulated about me.......every situation between 2 people has 2 actors....

I am surprised by your response because you of all people being a libra know how we vacillate with decisions. Therefore what I am interpreting from you is since I did not like the guy when I met him and barely knew him in February I should not have changed my mind after 3 months or so of us communication and decided to give him a shot in May....

interesting viewpoint. And no I am a libra not a virgo......and so is he.......are you a poster or a prophet?

remember though it is also important to not be so introspective that you fail to be objective and look at both sides of the coin....maybe I do that because that way I only ask questions that I already have the answer for and simply ask them to gauge your response/body language...

Because inevitably you will encounter a similar situation......

" how we would be friends no matter what etc. "

Libra trap 🙂

What i mean by "libra trap" is that we libra men will promise you the world and make you're head spin like a frisbee, the morning after we can be a totaly diffrent person

Lol....that is horrid. I never promise the friend thing. The morning after he was fine. we were laughing and joking. I sent him a msg like I had fun and he was like me too.... not sure if the friend thing was a promise to get what he wanted...The night I saw him out he approached me.

((every situation between 2 people has 2 actors....))

yup. both people continuously reacts to each others reaction. He reacted to your reactions and you reacted to his. Now all you know is as you perceive it. What exactly could be going inside his head? What caused such things? Behavioral patterns of you which he couldn't comprehend or Behavioral problems with you which he understood as it was and reacted automatically? You cannot see what could be wrong with you at times. Esp when you are trying to add drama into your life. Right from the beginning, you underestimated the potential of him. Resisted and then got into it. That itself is a mess. You failed to anticipate the possibilities and be friendly.

u get what am pointing at?

I said virgo is a possibility. Provided one of you were adopted and hv no clue abt it and bdates are diff.

I said virgo is a possibility. Provided one of you were adopted and hv no clue abt it and bdates are diff.

And why would you ask me such a question—?

yup. both people continuously reacts to each others reaction. He reacted to your reactions and you reacted to his. Now all you know is as you perceive it. What exactly could be going inside his head? What caused such things? Behavioral patterns of you which he couldn't comprehend or Behavioral problems with you which he understood as it was and reacted automatically? You cannot see what could be wrong with you at times. Esp when you are trying to add drama into your life. Right from the beginning, you underestimated the potential of him. Resisted and then got into it. That itself is a mess. You failed to anticipate the possibilities and be friendly.

What sane people do you know that can anticipate an adult's foolish behavior to this extent?? I would just like to know with all the wouldve couldve shouldve you have for me...if you dont mind what would you have done if a person seemed normal up to the point after you were intimate...besides their attraction to you which is not abnormal who could predict this? And I could have played it a lot worst. I ignored his public display of ignorance and him!

the one thing i don't get from all this chatter is why you're holding onto his ways...
you have said in this post as well as another that you are not interested in a serious relationship with him and you even so far to say in another post that you'd retaliate him if he tried to ruin your reputation. I see this as all a game to you. It will backfire, girl, so I suggest you walk away from this craziness while you can.

the one thing i don't get from all this chatter is why you're holding onto his ways...
you have said in this post as well as another that you are not interested in a serious relationship with him and you even so far to say in another post that you'd retaliate him if he tried to ruin your reputation. I see this as all a game to you. It will backfire, girl, so I suggest you walk away from this craziness while you can.

I have Houston....but that doesn't discontinue the post, or mean that people cannot post their viewpoints on the topic. Thus the reason I posted the scenario.

hmmm...you replying to everyone's opinion pretty much telling you to back off contradicts the reason for posting the "scenario".

you slept the guy, he didn't have the feelings you were hoping for afterwards...end of story. Most of us don't buy the "I had a 2 year dry spell" bit.

i know that sounds harsh, but you are in defense mode when you cut and paste everyone's opinions and try to justify your actions.

Houston I thought this was an advice forum....I didn't know that was short for personal attacks. We have never met therefore I could come on here and say I hump on everything that passes my door including my cats and your knowledge of this would affect my daily routine in no way shape or form....therefore I have no reason to lie about a 2 year dry spell nor do I care whether you believe it....there are some ppl that have circumstances which cause abstinence!

notice the question on the post was what made him go crazy—? Not why did he reject me? Or why doesnt he like me? I was asking so that I could easily identify the signs in the next man that exhibits the characteristics. And to learn from the experience....you don't mind my trying to obtain a bit of knowledge do you?

Lastly, I respond because I know that some of the feedback is based on the condensed version (yes condensed) of what I posted. Therefore I fill in the blanks with the additional missing info as it is presented...for instance the post suggesting I get to phones and my response that I have to mobiles...because it is impossible....unless you are different...to post every facet of a situation in the way it occurred so that what happened is clearly and unequivocally expressed!

i know that sounds harsh, but you are in defense mode when you cut and paste everyone's opinions and try to justify your actions.

Yes....because that seems to be the protocol/culture for responding to feedback on these particular forums I researched before responding...if I erred please instruct me on the culturally acceptable manner in which respond to questions comments or concerns. Or if there is a rule where new members have to simply take all the feedback without responding at all for a particular period of time please alert me to that and I apologize in advance for breaking this rule if one such rule does exist..

Thanks!

honey, it's not attack mode...it's my opinion. take it for whatever it's worth for and however it may apply to your situation.

condescension is not smart.

condescension is not smart.

Not sure why you would think my question is condescending. My initial post says Hi! I'm new here. Therefore it can be deduced that being new I do not have a well versed knowledge of the sites rules, regulations, or posting culture. You from what I have read seem to be a veteran. Therefore, I asked based on your comment stating I copy and paste everyone's replies, which from my viewpoint seems to be the way people address specific comments, if there was some rule that a new person such as myself should be aware of? Again if I am incorrectly responding to comments please alert me to the proper way to respond or where to find that info! :-)


Thanks

ok

And sorry about the attack mode comment if it did not apply. I did not know it was your opinion based on your response that, "no one here believes that dry spell bit." Therefore I thought you were speaking on behalf of the community. And with a comment like that I would have thought if you were speaking only on your behalf, or personally, and it was something you needed to express you would send it pm...not post it publicly to maneuver the facts of the scenario I posted in a light more favorable to your comment...Sorry! And thanks!