Libra female - I am really confused

Hello,
I am hoping that you Libran ladies out there can help me decode this Libran girl's behaviors because I am really confused right now.
So I know her for about 3 months. I know her through her friend. Her friend told me that I should asked her out, but I was a bit late and some other guy asked her out. They got a long well so I was just cut my loss and moved on. Well, she broke up with him a month ago (the only reason I knew was because she was all of a sudden seemed to be really interested in me). So I asked her to go play racket ball with me one Saturday. At first she told me that she had a lunch date with her girl friend and that she would be interested in playing the Saturday after Thanksgiving. I told her that would be too far ahead. She then said that her lunch date would end at 4 and we can go play after. She did not have a racket but she went and bought one that after noon! We had a great time and at the end she said that we should play again.
After Thanksgiving, she seemed pretty excited to see me again and asked me if I want to play again. I said we can play on Tuesday. When she came, she told me that she had a racket ball class that morning so she was kinda tired. We had a good time still. After the game, I asked if she would like to go skating with me on Friday that week. I told her that I would make some dinner. She said that would be fun.
Anyway, Friday came, I surprised her with a very nice candle light dinner (I heard Libran like dine and wine). She seemed to enjoyed it a lot and we had a great time. Then we went skating. This is when I start noticed something was wrong. She seemed to have fun and smiled a lot, but refused to let me help her skate (i.e. hold her hand). It's not like we are holding hand and walking down the street. It's pretty normal for me to hold girls' hands to help them balance or to pull them. Her reason was that, in the past, she had fallen a few times whenever someone hold her hands. I took her home early because her skates were rubbing against her legs. Anyway, she told me that she had a great time and thanked me for taking her skating.

As we parted, she hugged me (that was like the first physical contact for the whole date). Before this, she was really playful, hitting me on the arm, etc?. Anyway, I asked her if she wanted to go play racket ball the week after. She said Friday (today) would be good.
Well I saw her on Sunday and she acted like she was not into me at all. Anyway, I called her last Wednesday to see if she wanted to go see a play with me. She did not answer the phone so I left a message. She texted me back ?Hey, do you need something?? I texted her saying that I wanted to go see a play wither her this Saturday. She said she was headed to Salt Lake. I said we can go see it on Friday, and she said ?I don't think that would be a good idea?. So I said ?Yea, that's a bad idea. Forget I ever asked. Are you still good for the game on Friday or is it bad too?? She said ?racket ball is good, 3:30? I said ?yeah, 3:30?. Well today she texted me ?Hey, I'm kinda tired today. I don't think I'd do very well at racket ball. Do you think we could find a time before you leave next week? Or are you too busy?? I was going to tell her in person that we can play whenever she feels better. When I stopped by her place, she was asleep (I am not sure she was or not, since her room door was closed and her roommate told me that she is asleep). So I texted her back ?I understand. I can play next week but it's best if you let me know when you are good and ready. It's no fun when you are not interested?
Okay, sorry for the long posting but I just want to provide as much details as possible so you Libran ladies can help me. At this point, I don't care whether I have a chance with her or not. I just want to know why she behaved in such a strange way.

Thanks,
Confused Aqua_guy

She's keeping you on the back burner....you're her just in case. So I would recommend not contacting her....if anything drives us crazy it's people who shower us with attention and then act dis-interested

or its the good ole libra indecisiveness...step back and I guarantee she will come to u

Oh aint that the truth?? LOL......aqua_guy, Keep your distance for a while, do the fun things by yourself or with another friend...she'll come around....being disinerested is definitely a winner hehehe

Chatz and Krazy Libra:

Thanks so much for replying. I did not expected to receive help that fast! I think you both are right on! Being an aquarian, aloofness is my nature, so I have no problem having fun by myself. (In fact, I stopped by her place to see if I could borrow the balls so I could go play alone) I think my aloofness was what attracted her in the first place. I am already steping back, if you could tell by my last text to her. I just feel better now to hear it from you. I thought aquarians are confusing! No ideal that Librans are one step above! lol

Thanks

She was born on a Libra/Scorpio cusp (Oct 23). Not sure if that has anything to do with her strange behaviors?!

we're all strange what can I say....im trying to work on my weirdness....

lol... true.... I was just wonder if Scorpio is this strange too, since she is half Libra and half Scorpio.

or maybe just because she's not really into this sport things? why not for a movie or something else? I have libran close friend if she act like that I'll assume that she gets upset or angry with you about something. she's like that.if you still keep contacting with her next time you should try other activities she likes. libra won't say no they are like that.

I don't think I have done anything wrong so far... The only thing I can think of was that I did not call her on Saturday after our Friday date. I did not feel like I need to call her since we met again on Sunday anyway.

Anyway, I already ask her to do something else with me (go see a play), but she turned that down with "I don't think that would be a good idea" (see my original post).

Maybe she just want to be friends, which is totally okay. I rather have her telling me that than acting strange and making me all confused 🙂

Maybe she's on DXP and has been trying to figure out how to keep the aqua guy interested...and so she's being really corky and not herself ...

Hmmm...I was on and off hot a cold with my Aqua guy in the beginning, but thats because Im hesitant to let people in especially a guy that i know may want to take a far step with me....eventually.....someday....maybe.... never....i wasn't sure how i liked him so i didnt want to pull him in screw up his head and waste a good friendship when i knew i was still dating a lot...he was too unique or special rather to add to that mix of chaos...but yeah if you want to play her game ignore her for a few days...a week at a time she's likely to miss your company and attention and flattery...and so on and so forth...

IL and LL:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. It's good to hear it from the source! I think you are both right on. I am okay with being just friends. I can fall head over heel for a girl, but I need her interest to maintain mine. Once I sense that she is not interested, I can walk away just as fast as when I was falling for her (it's the aquarian thing, I think). The only thing that annoys me is playing game. But I do like this girl so I am willing to play this game, I am just gonna need a lot of help from you, Libran ladies, since I don't know how to play game!
Anyway, here is the update. I did not talk to her since last Friday, after I texted her. She did not text back, so I was like ready to moving on (not playing game, just really wanted to move on). Well, guess what, I saw her today and she all smiley and friendly and commented me on my coat. She was like ?I really like you coat, did I tell you that?? (It's not the first time she saw me wearing it, but she never said she like it before). Later on, she apologized for canceling the game. Then she said she really want to play before I leave town. I told her I will be leaving on Tuesday. She said we can play on Monday. I said I have exam on that day (and so does she). I was not really care whether we play or not, honestly. Anyway, she seemed really enthusiastic about it so we finally agree that we will play at 4 after our finals are over.
What do you think of that?
Thanks!

The only time I've ever behaved like this is when I am not interested, romantically, in a man and I feel he wants that type of relationship from me. I will never put away my friendly behavior, but I will try, in my libran way (diplomatically) to make it clear that I am not getting attached.

1) Libra's are very body conscious. Her not wanting to hold hands has a lot of implications, but it is a very intimate act for us. Don't take that too personally.

2) The wine/dine dinner sounds wonderful, very romantic, but maybe you moved to it a little too soon. Like LL said, and as I mentioned above, overly dramatic gestures can scare us and we will back off.

I think you should let her pace things, if you're comfortable with it. She may "friend" you right off, but you may be able to make her change her mind because lord knows, that's happened to me on a numerous occasions. Make her make moves because if she's interested, she will find a way of letting you know.

I hope it all goes well for you! I love aqua's!

AMAL:

I think you are right. I could be moving too fast (although to me, candle light dinner is just a dinner, I was not going to propose that night, lol). About holding hands, I guess I also underestimate the important of that gesture, lol. I am pretty decent at skating so girls sometimes ask me to help them. Those girls did not know me but they seemed okay that I hold their hands. It?_s not like I wanted to hold their hands. I meant, where else could I hold on to them to keep them from falling ?. I just wanted to help her skate, but I guess it came across as ??too fast to soon?? too.
Anyway, I am taking your advice. I am just gonna kick back and let her take the lead, if she wants to. Whether where this lead is not important at this point, I already put her into my ??friend?? list.

Oct 23 is more or less scorpio. Please cross check before u get advice as if she is solid libra. http://astro.cafeastrology.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal
can be a scorp also. In that case its a whole different game. Libra women normally dont have issues with body contact if its from someone she wanted to meet. But scorp does keep a distance for a while. Did she talked a lot about herself?

"But scorp does keep a distance for a while. Did she talked a lot about herself?"

-- she was super friendly before I asked her out. So it does look like she keeps distance. On, our date, yes, she definitely talk about herself. Whatever topics I brought up, she always had something to say.

find out her time and birth place. i think you have a scorp in hand and not a libra. And it almost sounds like the symptoms of a libra-cappy encounter. Shud be kinda same frequency if its scorp-aqua.

What is with all the sporty, active dates? She isn't a dude. Stop treating her like one and doing all these active sporty dates. HUGE Turn off. (Although she seems to like the racketball.)

*blech*

Libras sleep ... a lot. We tend to overdue then get tired.

If she is under the stress of exams, that could be playing a huge part. Sleeping more. Less time. See people last minute for the holidays. It is a busy, busy time of year.

The candle light thing was a bit premature in my mind. Engage her mind. Take her places and do things that she has never done before. Be creative. Have fun.

I am not sure how I would feel about the hand holding thing skating. A bit too cheesy and cliche for me. Same with the candlelight dinner. It would be uncomfortable I think.

What is with all the sporty, active dates? She isn't a dude. Stop treating her like one and doing all these active sporty dates. HUGE Turn off. (Although she seems to like the racketball.)

-- if you read my post closely you should have seen that the only time she turned me down was when I asked her to go see a play. I am sorry, but I am kinda into girls that are sporty 🙂

"If she is under the stress of exams, that could be playing a huge part. Sleeping more. Less time. See people last minute for the holidays. It is a busy, busy time of year."

-- ironically, last week was not final week when she turned me down. this week is final week, and yet, she want to go and play.

"The candle light thing was a bit premature in my mind. Engage her mind. Take her places and do things that she has never done before. Be creative. Have fun."

-- Ya, I think you right about the candle thing. But do I really regret it? No. I guess I am just weird that way lol. Plus she seemed really surprise and enjoyed it. It was the highlight of the date, better than the skating part.

"I am not sure how I would feel about the hand holding thing skating. A bit too cheesy and cliche for me."

-- I am wondering if you actually ever seen people skated in pair. It's not like holding hand walking down the street. It's quite different. Holding hands help with your balance when you do tricks and stuff.

But thanks for commenting anyway 🙂

Watch what she does for awhile. And let HER get in contact with you. No pushing allowed.

i think libra woman play with you and test your loyalty,

"Watch what she does for awhile. And let HER get in contact with you. No pushing allowed."

-- yeah, I was kinda withdraw from last Friday. She was the one that talked to me about playing racquetball today. Will let you know how it goes, lol.

"i think libra woman play with you and test your loyalty"

-- possible, but I really hate it if that is the case. I don't like it when people mess with my head like it.

Thanks guys and gals, I really appreciate your help 🙂

* you should have seen that the only time she turned me down was when I asked her to go see a play.

If you would be paying attention you would notice that she keeps cancelling cause she is tired and doesn't want to play. Have you ever said, do you wanna still get together and maybe do something else? She also didn't have a raquetball and is suddenly taking classes. How sporty is she and is she REALLY that into raquetball?

Did you ask her WHY it wouldn't be a good idea to go to the play?

* am wondering if you actually ever seen people skated in pair. It's not like holding hand walking down the street. It's quite different. Holding hands help with your balance when you do tricks and stuff.

It is also tres cliche.

How old is everyone involved?

"If you would be paying attention you would notice that she keeps cancelling cause she is tired and doesn't want to play."

-- why she even bother made plan with me for playing racquetball today then?

"Have you ever said, do you wanna still get together and maybe do something else?"

-- please read my post closely! I never told her that I wanted to get together again after she canceled the game. I texted her "it's best if you let me know when you are good and ready. it's no fun when you are not interested"

"She also didn't have a raquetball and is suddenly taking classes. How sporty is she and is she REALLY that into raquetball?"

-- are you saying that she is doing all this for me? I doubted that!

"Did you ask her WHY it wouldn't be a good idea to go to the play?"

-- If someone said no, there gotta be a reason. I respect her choices and see no need to pry 🙂. But hey, everyone is different apparently.

"-- are you saying that she is doing all this for me? I doubted that!"

of course she did it for you. The only time i bought a racket to play badminton was when a hot looking girl invited me. If its a libra, then you have to find a way to simulate her brain not her body. If its a scorp, she will sure take a few challenges from you and will be ready for anything till she find it pointless.

Find someone else...until she stops with the BS.

Update, lol:

So we did end up playing racquetball this afternoon. when we came, all the courts were full so I asked her if she want to wait. She was okay with it so we waited for like half an hour. During that time we talked a lot. I told her that I appologized if the whole "candle-light dinner" thing made her feel uncomfortable. I told her that I was not going to propose that night. I told her that I just wanted to surprise her and had fun, nothing else. I also to her that I knew she just broke up with her boyfriend so I would totally understand if she was uncomfortable. I told her that it was unsensitive on my part, although unintentionally. The whole time I told her that, she was just smiling and giggling. She then told me not to worry about it, that she had a great time. Although one part she said "I don't think you should do that to other girls", I am not sure what that mean, but based on her reactions, I think she appreciate that my trying to explain to her. She then showed me the scar on her leg from skating. I felt like a jerk! But the she said that she had fun and that she like them, they are her "battle scars", all of this was delivered with a big smile. I also brought up the play, told her that if she does not like that, then I appologize and I will never ask her to see a play with me again. She smiled and told me that she had a piano recital that night. She then asked me if I went skating that Saturday and I told her yes, I had a great time. She then proceeded to tell me what she did on Saturday, but it sounded like she tried to explain why she could not go out with me (I could be bias here)

Anway, after half an hour, we decide that we just gonna leave. She then asked me if I want to play tomorrow instead! She has two finals tomorrow and have to work until 4, but she is willing to play at 5 if I would like to! Anyway, a court was free by then so we ended up playing and having a good time, lol.

I am giving up trying to decode this girl! I am just gonna take it as it comes from now on, lol

Right on. Attempts to decode have put me through hell for the last 2 1/2 years. Glad you figured it right off the bat. What ever happens with her and you will be FINE---maybe not what you expect, but FINE.

I think she likes you. She was essentially doing things for you, the skating and the dinner even though something about it made her uncomfortable at some point. Bassically she is interrested enough to want to continue doing these things with you which is good, us libras are slow to reveal ourselves to someone we are interrested in. So it seems to me like this is normal Libra behavior when we are interrested in someone.

In my experience, when they are interrested in you they will overextend themselves just to see you. Like work and two finals AND meeting you.

If she is a "good girl" it might be slow and steady for a while.

thanks Nic and thelibran for explaining it to him.

I was thinking wow buddy, you do NOT get girls at all. lol!


The girl likes you. It is obvious. She isn't happy about the scars ect but she likes you enough to make you feel better about it by saying she is happy about them. Hello? The girl likes you. And I told you there was probably a reason why she didn't want to go to the play. Like I tried to tell you, she was busy.

She likes you. Relax.

Keep chatting to the girl. Engage her mind. As thelibran said, that is the secret.

* In my experience, when they are interrested in you they will overextend themselves just to see you. Like work and two finals AND meeting you.

Like working, filming till 1 a.m, then meeting you to do the whole thing the next day. Ahh yes. I resemble that remark.

* If she is a "good girl" it might be slow and steady for a while.

If she is young, you mean. (Being a bit of a stickler but I don't like good and bad judgements used to describe female sexuality.)

Thanks everyone for your inputs. I am pretty sure that she likes me. What I am not sure is whether she likes me like a friend or is it more than that 🙂. Right now, I am just assuming we are in the friends zone and take it as it comes.

hmmm, i think either she is playing hard to get OR she is indecisive on how she feels about you. i have a good libra girl friend who has been hanging out with this aqua guy now for a little over a year, and she has broken up with him and gotten back together several times! she tells me that she feels bad for him so she keeps on going back. she thinks he is a great person, and i know that she is very close to him and feels more comfortable around him than anyone else...but still, she continues to keep her distance. it's like she knows he is the one for her, but she keeps on denying it...i don't know.

"i think libra woman play with you and test your loyalty"

-LOL!!! that's what aqua guys do too!

oh you aquas. I can see exactly how this is all playing out. She's having fun, I'm with everyone on that. I think it's funny you apologized for all that stuff, but that's what makes you aqua men so endearing. Moonchild has it right though, don't think just because you're approaching this slowly and honestly you're not playing with her mind, too.

In case you haven't noticed, I have a "thing" for aqua men, precisely because you guys make good friends and don't mind taking it slow. You can wait and be friends without hang ups. But don't doubt your ability to confuse her, too. You guys are mysterious, which makes us libra's excited, but also nervous.

And just so you know, Libra's smile, real big. It's our secret weapon. Keep having fun and def keep posting. I want to see this type of relationship from your perspective.

"hmmm, i think either she is playing hard to get OR she is indecisive on how she feels about you. i have a good libra girl friend who has been hanging out with this aqua guy now for a little over a year, and she has broken up with him and gotten back together several times! she tells me that she feels bad for him so she keeps on going back."

-- I hope that she is playing hard to get. I don't want to come across as being prideful, but pitty love is not for me. Relationships are already difficult enough, even for those that truly love each other. If you love some one out of pitty, you are not doing anyone any favor.

"oh you aquas. I can see exactly how this is all playing out. She's having fun, I'm with everyone on that. I think it's funny you apologized for all that stuff, but that's what makes you aqua men so endearing."

-- lol thanks. I am not sure if all aquas behave that way (I have a lot of Libras on my chart, you know Libra values harmony), but I always appologize when I felt like I was being insensitive or did something wrong.


"Moonchild has it right though, don't think just because you're approaching this slowly and honestly you're not playing with her mind, too."

-- please explain more, why slowly and honestly approach may come across as playing?

"In case you haven't noticed, I have a "thing" for aqua men, precisely because you guys make good friends and don't mind taking it slow. You can wait and be friends without hang ups. But don't doubt your ability to confuse her, too. You guys are mysterious, which makes us libra's excited, but also nervous."

-- we are just mysterious by nature, can't really help it, lol

"And just so you know, Libra's smile, real big. It's our secret weapon. Keep having fun and def keep posting. I want to see this type of relationship from your perspective."

-- i don't think what i have with her can be called relationship at this point, but sure I will keep you all posted 🙂

Update, lol:

Yesterday evening, I facebooked her a link to a sudoku puzzle asking her if she could solve it and let me know how long it took her (She has a sudoku book and on her facebook as well). Well, no reply, whatsover (I know she saw it since she replied to her friends' posts)

This morning, I text her "good luck with finals". No response. If a girl I like text me that, I would at least reply "thanks". lol.

as a libra myself
if we don't have a response other than thanks,
most of the time we won't bother

but hey, this just might be me
good luck with this situation

VirgoLibra24:

Thanks for the insight. I guess everyone is different when it comes to texting, lol.

Aqua_guy, you sound really obsessed with her. Not necessarily a bad thing!
I know an Oct 23, who left me a very good impression. She is smokin', and has a great heart too.

What she seems to be doing is playing the flirting game with you to drive you nuts.
It comes easy for a libra type with numerous scorpio influences.

Do you happen to know her year of birth perchance?

By the way I have never dated an Aquarian, but I know it is easy to drive Aqua nuts, as I have been close to some. You guys are so fixed and direct, in a flexible, non stubborn or overpowering way. And not to say easily charmed.

Well she's certainly enjoying the attention, that's for sure! And by the way, you're not so aloof anymore, she's sort of beat you in the game!
You sound like you have a virgo analytcal bent somehow. Becareful these analyses don't drive you nuts!

And you sound like your hints are strong and all over the place. She can smell a slight hint from afar, and is probably too shy since you came on too strong. Back off a little, and let things happen naturally 🙂

The powers of communication..AMAZING *sigh*

In my experience with aqua men, you enjoy the chase. A lot. You'll put your best effort forth, and as a libra, we can sense that you're doing exactly that. Trying to win us. Your patience will likely pay off, libra loves attention and we love to be pursued.

I said to mind the games you will unintentionally play with her because it will be a little while after she lets her guard down with you that you'll back off, reevaluate things and she will be left feeling confused. After all, she used to get texts from you, nice little messages on facebook, etc.

Don't take it to heart too much that she hasn't responded yet. She will, in a couple of days, I'd assume.

Aqua Guy...I am dating an aqua guy myself, and I am a libra girl...first of all, I would like to say that I wish my aqua man was as enthusiastic as you are, and I wish he would hold my hand or touch me at all!!! He is mega shy, and so am I!...anyways, as far as her not holding your hand, if she is anything like me, I can be very self concious sometimes...I may really want some guy to hold my hand, or kiss me but then I get totally nervous when I think something might happen...so maybe she was just nervous. Also, as far as her not being in the mood to hang out that one time...Libras LOVE TO SLEEP! WHen our balance is all off, we need to recharge, I personally go through phases..and if I am tired and don't feel I can give a guy my total attention, I don't even bother to put on the act that I can...for example, my aqua called me last night to hang out, and I was moody because I was half asleep when he called..I didn't mean to come off irritated, but I probably did..we can't help it..when we're tired, we're no fun....AS for the DInner, well, hmm...personally, I tend to like guys who don't come on too strong, I want the attention, but if I get it too easily, I get completely freaked out...if I don't have to work a little to get it, it's like you're making it too easy for her...there's no challenge when you come on too strong too fast..WE love attention, but you have to give it to us in doses...

?Aqua_guy, you sound really obsessed with her. Not necessarily a bad thing!
I know an Oct 23, who left me a very good impression. She is smokin', and has a great heart too.?
-- lol, I am more obsessed with decoding her behaviors more than her, as of this point. But like I said in the previous post, I gave up decoding her already. I just want to keep you guys and gals updated as someone has asked me to do so 🙂

?What she seems to be doing is playing the flirting game with you to drive you nuts.
It comes easy for a libra type with numerous scorpio influences.?
-- possibly, since if she is not interested, why even bother try to rearrange the racquet ball game. Maybe she just want to be friend, whatever.
?By the way I have never dated an Aquarian, but I know it is easy to drive Aqua nuts, as I have been close to some. You guys are so fixed and direct, in a flexible, non stubborn or overpowering way. And not to say easily charmed.?
-- lol, you got that right!

?Well she's certainly enjoying the attention, that's for sure! And by the way, you're not so aloof anymore, she's sort of beat you in the game! ?
-- hate to admit that you are right, but well? you are right!
?You sound like you have a virgo analytcal bent somehow. Becareful these analyses don't drive you nuts!?
-- thanks, but no worry 🙂. I have school, work, and sport, and more to keep me busy.
?And you sound like your hints are strong and all over the place. She can smell a slight hint from afar, and is probably too shy since you came on too strong. Back off a little, and let things happen naturally?
-- yep, already backing out, lol!

?In my experience with aqua men, you enjoy the chase. A lot. You'll put your best effort forth, and as a libra, we can sense that you're doing exactly that. Trying to win us. Your patience will likely pay off, libra loves attention and we love to be pursued. I said to mind the games you will unintentionally play with her because it will be a little while after she lets her guard down with you that you'll back off, reevaluate things and she will be left feeling confused. After all, she used to get texts from you, nice little messages on facebook, etc. ?
-- she used to facebook me before all this. In fact, 20 minutes after our first racquetball game, she facebooked me, commenting on my facebook picture (it was a nature pic I took for an art class). Thanks for clarifying about the mind games part. I think you are right. I am already reevaluating things. Fro

?In my experience with aqua men, you enjoy the chase. A lot. You'll put your best effort forth, and as a libra, we can sense that you're doing exactly that. Trying to win us. Your patience will likely pay off, libra loves attention and we love to be pursued. I said to mind the games you will unintentionally play with her because it will be a little while after she lets her guard down with you that you'll back off, reevaluate things and she will be left feeling confused. After all, she used to get texts from you, nice little messages on facebook, etc. ?
-- she used to facebook me before all this. In fact, 20 minutes after our first racquetball game, she facebooked me, commenting on my facebook picture (it was a nature pic I took for an art class). Thanks for clarifying about the mind games part. I think you are right. I am already reevaluating things. From this point on, no more asking her out. We are just gonna be racquetball pals!

?Don't take it to heart too much that she hasn't responded yet. She will, in a couple of days, I'd assume.?
-- have not heard from her yet. Will keep you updated though!