I think I hurt my Libra fwb (Page 2)

The first bf I ever had was a libra.
I actually asked him for advice today too (didn't mention the threesome tho! haha... just said Leeb lover was super angry at me for hooking up with someone else and had gone off on a mad tangent.

He advised I clear off for a week and give him time to mull things over. He reckons he'll be back if love is involved or if I have mad sex skills!

I was like "Did I mention he told me he is seriously in love with my vagina?"

I swear that was one of the funniest things I've ever had said to me!

I hear ya, but don't fall for that shit either

Another string trick to keep u at bay, think like this say thank u with a smile and keep it moving til he mans up about what he wants

Part libra charm to get u to understand that he likes the sex u give him, flattery to feed the female emotion gene

Yeah... His response on the phone definitely sounded like he feels profoundly. That was the first time I saw any hint of anything like that. He's normally very detached and plays it cool a lot... I really didn't think he'd give a shit if I was with another guy!

It's amazing how much of a truth serum liquor is.

I've always had an inkling my ex has some internal feelings/battles he's dealing with, based on how he behaves around me. Seeing him when he was drunk was kinda interesting, needless to say.

Overall, these guys can be full of so much shit. They don't always live up to what they say because they're notorious for all talk no action. That dislike for confrontation/conflict leads to all sorts of crazy shit. So you take what they say and then poof, they're contradicting what they said.

Generally, I take them for their word until they prove otherwise (flaky, backpedaling, etc). Then I stop believing anything they tell me and rely solely on actions. Actions will always tell you everything you need to know about a person.

What's his venus sign?

Posted by rockyroadicecream
It's amazing how much of a truth serum liquor is.

I've always had an inkling my ex has some internal feelings/battles he's dealing with, based on how he behaves around me. Seeing him when he was drunk was kinda interesting, needless to say.

Overall, these guys can be full of so much shit. They don't always live up to what they say because they're notorious for all talk no action. That dislike for confrontation/conflict leads to all sorts of crazy shit. So you take what they say and then poof, they're contradicting what they said.

Generally, I take them for their word until they prove otherwise (flaky, backpedaling, etc). Then I stop believing anything they tell me and rely solely on actions. Actions will always tell you everything you need to know about a person.

What's his venus sign?

+1

If his venus is in libra, ur doom, they are slow slow slow to admit any form of feeling, meaning protection phase

If his Venus is in Scorpio, hes possessive , but very much into PDA's

I'd have to agree there. The ex was venus scorp and he was all about pda. This last guy was also venus in scorp and he wasn't exactly pushing for pda.

I agree with the concept she presented, but I don't think it rings true for all that have venus in scorp.

I have my BFF female libra, 2 step brothers libras, 3 cousins from father side all libras with Venus in Scorpio

My explanation

IT WAS TOLD TO ME

The libra venus, MY OWN TAKE

Plus scorpio in Venus is always PDA from what I see, unles u just don like the person, otherwise why bother

Libra venus is showcase-- example " look what I got, do u like or approve

Scoprio Venus is This is mine- example for the whole world to see kissing touching, building on passion and lust

Him:
Sun Libra
Moon Aquarius
Mercury Virgo
Venus Virgo
Mars Gemini
Jupiter Leo
Saturn Capricorn
Uranus Capricorn
Neptune Capricorn
Pluto Scorpio
Lilith Sagittarius

Me:
Sun Aries
Moon Leo
Mercury Pisces
Venus Pisces
Mars Pisces
Jupiter Cancer
Saturn Virgo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
Lilith Leo

Nope, but if certain things pop up, one can only guess

lol, all that Virgo. What a control freak.

Definitely not your fault and I probably wouldn't have sent that text. Your in a FWB relationship and he knows that. He grew attached and that's why he became angry. Believe it or not, I think he was probably thinking about the next step for you guys. I agree we play it very cool and will go along with things when we don't agree with them because we don't want people to know they've gotten under our skin. I can literally count only a handful of times when someone has gotten me to the point where I had to walk away instantly and they knew it. Normally, you wouldn't know anything was wrong and I'd just disappear for a bit.

We are planners and life to us is all about the moves we plan on making. I have plans for a trip I'm taking in a month, having already run through several scenarios on how I think things will play out. We do this to protect ourselves when something might not go our way. Also, I'll often say things just to get a reaction and to know that I can press buttons when needed. I can equate it to the military doing wargames during peace time. I like to know that when the time comes I can pull out my playbook and win.

Honestly, you sound cool and I would say leave him be. He needs to come to grips with the reality of the situation, not the reality he built up in his head. I've been known to do that and it usually takes me several weeks to get myself sorted. We're logical and he'll see exactly what is going on. At that point he will have to decide if he can handle the situation as it currently is. Personally, right now, I'd kill for that FWB relationship as you sound like a cool chick! Good luck!

Libras hate to make plans for them or with them ! If you have a plan in your mind and tell him, he will agree in your front, but after this he will disappearing ... I know this very welll now too. Is not because he does not trust you, it is because they are running away of any responsability and any plan has a small responsability in.

My Aries guy mate just told me he thinks Leeb wants me, but maybe just to be his.. not necessarily to go steady, but just not to be with anyone else.

I think he's on to something.

Posted by theGrinch
Definitely not your fault and I probably wouldn't have sent that text. Your in a FWB relationship and he knows that. He grew attached and that's why he became angry. Believe it or not, I think he was probably thinking about the next step for you guys. I agree we play it very cool and will go along with things when we don't agree with them because we don't want people to know they've gotten under our skin. I can literally count only a handful of times when someone has gotten me to the point where I had to walk away instantly and they knew it. Normally, you wouldn't know anything was wrong and I'd just disappear for a bit.

We are planners and life to us is all about the moves we plan on making. I have plans for a trip I'm taking in a month, having already run through several scenarios on how I think things will play out. We do this to protect ourselves when something might not go our way. Also, I'll often say things just to get a reaction and to know that I can press buttons when needed. I can equate it to the military doing wargames during peace time. I like to know that when the time comes I can pull out my playbook and win.

Honestly, you sound cool and I would say leave him be. He needs to come to grips with the reality of the situation, not the reality he built up in his head. I've been known to do that and it usually takes me several weeks to get myself sorted. We're logical and he'll see exactly what is going on. At that point he will have to decide if he can handle the situation as it currently is. Personally, right now, I'd kill for that FWB relationship as you sound like a cool chick! Good luck!

Thanks for your awesome compliment 😉

And the words of advice 🙂 I did kinda feel like telling him to stop being such a drama queen and calm down. Didn't want to be a bitch though... So I just let him rant on. Still no word from him... as expected. I think it'll take a week or two before he resurfaces again.

Believe me, in a week you'll get a heartfelt apology. But if he says anything along the lines of "I had a lot to drink that night..." then tell him to pound sand. I once went on an alcohol induced rant like that and it took me a week to apologize. I really liked the girl and it seemed like a slight to me, so off I went. A week later I sent the full apology and told her there was no excuse for my behavior. We're quick to apologize for small things and for things we don't actually think we did wrong, but know the other person feels is wrong.

For real apologies, we take our time and hash it all out. We want you to know that this isn't our normal "everyone has to love me so I'll apologize" apologies. I know that whole week I agonized on what exactly I should say. There's really something about Libra's and alcohol, it is sometimes our biggest strength and biggest weakness all in one. Usually a strength, but an angry Libra should never drink because that normal shield we keep up falls quickly haha (as you saw).

I don't agree with the comment that we don't like other people planning things for us. We're the most indecisive sign in the zodiac, we love when other people plan things. We love social interaction, but suck at deciding when and where to go. I'm the happiest of Libras when someone says "be at this party at this time." Sweet now I just have to figure out what to bring and wear instead of figuring out what to do that night.

Posted by theGrinch
Believe me, in a week you'll get a heartfelt apology. But if he says anything along the lines of "I had a lot to drink that night..." then tell him to pound sand. I once went on an alcohol induced rant like that and it took me a week to apologize. I really liked the girl and it seemed like a slight to me, so off I went. A week later I sent the full apology and told her there was no excuse for my behavior. We're quick to apologize for small things and for things we don't actually think we did wrong, but know the other person feels is wrong.

For real apologies, we take our time and hash it all out. We want you to know that this isn't our normal "everyone has to love me so I'll apologize" apologies. I know that whole week I agonized on what exactly I should say. There's really something about Libra's and alcohol, it is sometimes our biggest strength and biggest weakness all in one. Usually a strength, but an angry Libra should never drink because that normal shield we keep up falls quickly haha (as you saw).

I don't agree with the comment that we don't like other people planning things for us. We're the most indecisive sign in the zodiac, we love when other people plan things. We love social interaction, but suck at deciding when and where to go. I'm the happiest of Libras when someone says "be at this party at this time." Sweet now I just have to figure out what to bring and wear instead of figuring out what to do that night.

I hope you're right about that!

@TheGrinch. What did she do that made you angry? And what do you mean by "I really liked the girl and it seemed like a slight to me, so off I went." Im referring to the word 'slight'...

Posted by Maria1980
Libras hate to make plans for them or with them ! If you have a plan in your mind and tell him, he will agree in your front, but after this he will disappearing ... I know this very welll now too. Is not because he does not trust you, it is because they are running away of any responsability and any plan has a small responsability in.

I don't think u know libras like u say

All I do is plan, if I leave it up to the libra it won't get done

Ha, long and short of it. We'd been talking almost daily for two months and she said maybe to a few invites to go out (polite nos). Of course when she invited me out I was ecstatic and even though it was a concert for a band I was so so about I said sure. Mind you, she knew that I was only going to meet her and that I had no friends who were also going to the concert. Day of, I still hadn't heard about what time she and her friends would be there. I reached out and she followed with 5:30. I was taking a train, so got to the train around 4:30 and once I arrived at the venue she let me know they would be late.

Eventually, they showed, two hours late. I had somethings planned, which go shot to heck due to the lateness and I was there by myself for about an hour and a half before I found out a friend's wife was there. When she did arrive, there were sporadic texts about where she was and that was the tipping point for me. Having drank a fair amount (not an excuse) I lost my normal composure and went off then left.

We didn't know each other well enough to see two things. One, she's late everywhere and when it comes to planning she's not great. Two, I don't mind lateness, but my pet peeve is being left not knowing what is going on. Say you're running late and I'll meet you here, I'm alright. Give me nothing and I am not my happy Libra self.

I did apologize as I said because how I handled it wasn't right and I embarrassed myself. Also, I know I hurt her feelings and that wasn't my aim. A week later I apologized, a very sincere and heartfelt one. She in turn did the same and we made more plans.

I'll give you a quote that is one of my favorites and I tend to think describes us very well. From the movie Hoffa "If a guy's close to you, you can't slight 'im. You can't slight that guy. A real grievance can be resolved; differences can be resolved. But an imaginary hurt, a slight - that mother***** gonna hate you 'til the day he dies."

As I always try to tell people, just because we're aloof most of the time doesn't mean we don't care or have feelings. My family will laugh and tell me all the time I don't have feelings. Then they'll wonder why I disappear for awhile or blow up. If we care for you, we give our all and do everything we can to show you how much we care. Then, as is usually the case, something happens and due to us usually going with the flow people assume it's no big deal. When inside, for us, it was the biggest deal in the world. To add insult to injury, we expected you to just know it without us having to say it because we're pretty sure we know just about everything about you.

To me, I believe he felt you should just know it wasn't cool even though he was saying it was. We don't like people to know we aren't everything they believe we are. I mean when people constantly say this or that about you, you don't want to disappoint no matter how out of balance it makes you. Little by little though, the scales start to tip and that's when you get the response that you did. I'd say it was brewing for sometime and that last grain of sand put him over the edge.

We love attention and we love flirting, but we don't lend ourselves well to the FWB relationship. Plus we tend to be able to grow to really like someone. So where initially he might have just liked you and was cool with everything, I think he grew to love you and that throws us for a loop. We are always on the hunt for it and when we find it (or at least our idea of it) it's tough to let it go or see someone else enjoy your attention. That's my take anyway.

That what I told lotus, he felt like u should have known

See another libra male said it

Plus I have a libra man, good lord the work that goes into being with one

Haha, oh come on Nikki we're just so much fun 🙂

Posted by theGrinch
Haha, oh come on Nikki we're just so much fun 🙂

Yea right

I still want to choke the hell outta my libra, dam full-time job

I keep dem scales in-balance, it drives him nuts but he gets off on it, that libra charm is a bitch, but I still catch his azz

And my favorite of all time libra traits...the famous WHITE LIES

I'm telling ya lotus

Read what I wrote, it's a survival guide

Lmfao

Buwhahahahah! Aw we only tell white lies because we care, besides their usually half true anyhow! Think it's tough for you? Try being us! Constantly searching for balance that basically doesn't exist and extended yourself to make others feel better. Tough racket haha

O, believe me I get it, being a libra is a 24/7 mind job

But dammit, you can't please everybody, get over it, ur dam friends aren't going anywhere, if they really are your friends

It's still a dam lie, ugggggg, white lies white lies, OMFG

Stop telling people what they want to hear and just tell it like it is

And O the between the lines u guys give out crack me up, I'll play dung just to piss my libra off til he tells me straight, I refuse to read ur dam mind

The people pleasing, umm yea, the fake I'm not jealous route, wateva

The fact that deep convo make u run for cover is funny as hell

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Posted by enfant_terrible
I have only one thing to say to you hedonists: Do you have room for a Leo? 😄

You know I have a fetish for Leos! Bring it!

I do too. 😛 Let's see what he brings 😄

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I'll bring my poker and a lot of empty promises. LOL

I'll tell u guys my all time favorite libra lie, and this was before we got serious. READY

Libra man ---- " listen we can't do anything today

Me----- " why what happen

Libra man---- " you know it's good Friday right

Me--- " um yea so

Libra man---- " well my mom just reminded me that I can't have sex til after good Friday and I'm catholic

Me---- my face----- o-0

Libra man---- what I can't go against my religion

Me--- " um u are now divorced, so when did u start practicing this non-sense

Libra man ----" 4 months ago

Me----- ( breaks into laughter) " dude are u freaking serious right noe, u really gonna sit here a look at me and lie like that

Libra man----- no words

Me--- looks to his friend--- I ask his friend what he thinks

Libra mans friend------ walks away and starts laughing

Me---- I tell the libra man---- " if u would have said Ramadon, u would have stood a chance, but catholic, muahahahaha

Libra man---- " yo where u going, u not leaving are u, wait , wait, I'll tell u the truth

Me---- " nah I'm good later, thanks for the memories

I'll get to you in a minute Enfant! haha

So what do I do now you two? And for how long do I do it? What's coming next??
Do you think he feels embarrassed about his tangent?
Do you think in his eyes there is something to apologise to me for even though I apologised for the negative impact my actions had on him... (Note, I did not say I was sorry for having 3some... I'm not. I'm just sorry for how negative my actions made him feel. It's never cool when someone ends up pissed off/hurt over something you did, when you had no idea it'd affect them that way. I feel that was a fair apology to make, not knowing what his perspective really was.)

what was the point of that lie TN? why did he feel the need to lie?

Lotus

I'm telling ya u did nothing wrong

What the hell are u sorry for, it's FWB, no explaining neccessary

The libra was wrong, and guilt u for his feelings for getting deep, like he expected u to read his dam mind

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Posted by enfant_terrible
I have only one thing to say to you hedonists: Do you have room for a Leo? 😄

You know I have a fetish for Leos! Bring it!

I do too. 😛 Let's see what he brings 😄

I'll bring my poker and a lot of empty promises. LOL

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We don't need promises of any kind. we're here for a good time, not a long time! Just bring your poker! And some booze actually...

O get this the reason why he lied cause the last time we did it I made his toes curl

Libra man 101----- if the sex is good they are in trouble

Libra man plan was to keep me at bay so he can balance himself back, he felt he was in fact kitty whip

Made up the dumb lie to protect his emotions, which he felt I was getting to close to at the time

Posted by TaurusNikki
Lotus

I'm telling ya u did nothing wrong

What the hell are u sorry for, it's FWB, no explaining neccessary

The libra was wrong, and guilt u for his feelings for getting deep, like he expected u to read his dam mind

I know I did nothing wrong... but the situation still sucks!
so i sent the last text with an apology. And he's internalising in silence for god knows how long... there's a good chance he just won't contact me again. i don't like that idea. i really wasn't finished with him!

Did I mention that he had a straight face while telling me the lie, I even told him are u freaking serious u going with a straight face, wowed ur funny as hell, I catch that man ever time when he try's , and I mean try's to lie

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Posted by TaurusNikki
Lotus

I'm telling ya u did nothing wrong

What the hell are u sorry for, it's FWB, no explaining neccessary

The libra was wrong, and guilt u for his feelings for getting deep, like he expected u to read his dam mind

I know I did nothing wrong... but the situation still sucks!
so i sent the last text with an apology. And he's internalising in silence for god knows how long... there's a good chance he just won't contact me again. i don't like that idea. i really wasn't finished with him!

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He not going anywhere, just do ur own thing and let him balance dem dam scales

Posted by TaurusNikki
O get this the reason why he lied cause the last time we did it I made his toes curl

Libra man 101----- if the sex is good they are in trouble

Libra man plan was to keep me at bay so he can balance himself back, he felt he was in fact kitty whip

Made up the dumb lie to protect his emotions, which he felt I was getting to close to at the time

Silly! but cute... made his toes curl! lol
so... if the sex is good they are in trouble??
baring in mind i'm 10 years older than him, and -- even if i do say so myself -- been around the good old block enough times to have above average skills (this is me being humble and not saying straight out i've got mad skills in bed!), and i was the first person to give him a blowjob and the third sex he'd ever had... poor guy... the first time we hooked up he asked me if i could be his sex teacher.

When I gave him a blowjob it was really cute and funny. He was like "Oh wow, i can't believe this is what I've been missing out on. Is this a normal blowjob?" hahahaha

I mentioned something about being his sex teacher the other day and he said back something like "when did you ever stop being my sex teacher?"

Yea, they are in trouble

Look how he is acting, and the last thing u wrote

Lmfao nuff said

I read somewhere that Libras mirror the people they are with... is this true? And how? And WHY? more importantly!

If u make a libra man feel so good that his mind starts talking in sign language

Ur in trouble, for 1 the libra has to collect his scales back, cause he wasn't expecting that kind to treatment, it's just suppose to be light and fun, now that parts gone cause now it's blowing his world up

2. How on earth is he gonna handle the situation, can he handle the situation and if it's worth doing, the that 1 price gets them, the dam sex and how it made him FEEL

3. Now he has to come to grips of the FEEL, now the plan has to form, should it be FWB, or should I make her mine, then here comes the dam pros and cons, now that's another dam day he gotta think, which puts u on string detail, have fun with that

4. Exit plan in case things don't pan out, which could mean the test to see what u think or the cycle plan to keep u on the string til they figure out what to do, another few days

5. The scales are balance until u mess up that plan again, and prove ur innocence

Posted by lotuslily
I read somewhere that Libras mirror the people they are with... is this true? And how? And WHY? more importantly!

O that's easy

They do that to see if it works, and if it doesn't that plan is already for explanation, cause they were only following ur lead

And u can't say it's not ur fault either, they will have ever single thing u did in writing just to prove to you it's not their fault

Libras have only 1 plan and 1 plan only, that's balance, thats1 decision that never gets lost

If u put them out of balance because u fail to think about how things should progress, ur screwed

U have to think of Chess, or the study of Chess

@feby & lotus:

Booze and chips? Sure why not, we'll burn those calories off in no time 😛

Posted by enfant_terrible
@feby & lotus:

Booze and chips? Sure why not, we'll burn those calories off in no time 😛

You sure you know what you're getting yourself into?? You only have one poker Mr and I have an insatiable appetite... nevermind what Ms Feby's packing in her bag of tricks!

You might be a Leo... but are you sure you've got game for two of the freakiest girls of the zodiac?? You may need to rest up and drink some energy drinks before you decide to conquer us two!

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Posted by lotuslily
I read somewhere that Libras mirror the people they are with... is this true? And how? And WHY? more importantly!

O that's easy

They do that to see if it works, and if it doesn't that plan is already for explanation, cause they were only following ur lead

And u can't say it's not ur fault either, they will have ever single thing u did in writing just to prove to you it's not their fault

Libras have only 1 plan and 1 plan only, that's balance, thats1 decision that never gets lost

If u put them out of balance because u fail to think about how things should progress, ur screwed

U have to think of Chess, or the study of Chess

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Are they ever just themselves and honest and straight forward? Too many mind games! Too exhausting mentally I think... fire signs are so simplistic in nature... down to earth, straight forward, we are who we are and if you don't like it --> here's the door!

Lol, o they are themselves, it's just take a lot to understand them and if u want to spend time trying

They try to balance so much and try to make everything fair that they forget to just stop and just accept that u just can't please everybody

What do you do now? Leave him be and let him figure it out. Honestly, he's deciding if he can handle the FWB relationship because he knows he won't be more (given how you've discussed it thus far). He's mad because he let you see how it effected him and that's one thing we hate. I hate letting people see they got to me. The other side of it is we aren't emotional, so when we get to the point it scares us. He probably didn't know he cared as much as he does until this situation arised.

You played right into his game though. He's making you feel upset because he is upset, that's what we do. But what people don't realize is when we do that we're just as scared that we made you mad as well. It will be two weeks max before he contacts you again and let you know what his decision is. I wouldn't be surprised if his first contact will be very confusing. This will be because he wants you to blink first and let him know how he should proceed.

We do love to plan and we generally see every angle before we put our plan in effect. I've only been surprised once in my life and that through me for a major loop haha. Ah Nikki, sometimes people can't handle the truth. I've lost a few friends when I turned off the charm and let them know the truth. We don't like to lose people in our lives which is why we lie. It's rare when someone can see through our plans and white lies.

Couldn't tell you the number of things I became an "expert" on just so I could cover the hole I dug. Oddly enough, I'm not a grade A baker hahaha

Bah should have been "Oddly enough, I'm now a grade A baker" hahaha

I hear ya Grinch

My libra still gets freaked out that I understand him at times, I don't always tho, but I love him

I show him ever chance I get, but dammit getting here was a lot of bullshit

@lotuslily: C'mon now, all you Aries chicks are quick to start and first to the finishing line! Besides, as Royalty I don't expect to be doing much but making myself available 😛

So just use me any way you see fit! ;-P