She hits a baby, and pins his hands against the wall.
October 2015 in astrology forum
kquote>Posted by ladylibra21According to a later post in that thread, which I will happy to re-post (and just might) .... he is being punished because of how emotionally he is and attached to people. He got real attached to a teacher and this pissed mommy off. Mother and father bounce baby back and forth between households and then punish him because he is traumatized with the instability.
he is being punished
Posted by ladylibra21He is being spanked because he won't get his shit together and stop being upset about being a bag tossed back and forth.
Spanking does not work with him
Posted by ladylibra21And his hands pinned to the wall.
hands on the wall ..... so I am literally holding his hands there
Posted by ladylibra21Even he knows, at ......
He never forgets what he sees as a wrong doing.
Posted by ladylibra21..... 2 years old, that what she is doing to him is wrong.
he is 2
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I can only hope that one day her mother, or the child's father will find dxp .... and get the child away from her.
I'll keep posting this from time to time, to make sure all the new people see this.
Absolutely sickening. Calling herself passive while she raises her hands to her child.
LadyLibra, I wish you the best of luck with your career, your love life, and your baby boy. I wished the individual(s) that were overly concerned about your son's well-being would've sent you a private message. Or maybe start a thread dedicated to parenting tips, instead of this malicious one that was obviously created to embarrass, threaten, bully, and belittle.
Anyways, I'm putting it out into the universe that you find much success, joy, happiness, and all that gushy stuff. Peace out, lady đ
Anyways, I'm putting it out into the universe that you find much success, joy, happiness, and all that gushy stuff. Peace out, lady đ
bumb ... looks like the child abuser is still here
Posted by tizianiAwe, let's feel sorry for the child abuser ... poor thing, she has feelings too.
I liked LadyLibra, she lives without fear. You tried to personally jab her and she never ran or lost her cool, had her face up on the boards like yeah i said it, yeah i meant it.
And she left on her own terms to do her own thing. Honestly she had your number P, she made your jabs look like marshmallow. And she let you off the hook. That's a pretty classy way to sign off.
The Attitude era of DXP is well and truly dead. And probably for the best, too.
fuck the baby ... let's give her hugs
she's so amazing ... she lives beating a baby without any fear of me.
Awe, isnt' that awesome? What a remarkable person in that she can't beat a baby without fear of P-Angel.
let's all gather around and tell her how proud we are of her being amazing enough to hit a baby
She hasn't left.
And the best part is that I can still keep bumping this message, in hopes that her ex or the exes mother, or another family member finds dxp, so that they can go rescue the baby from her.
Libra lady is not going to change her ways because of a post on here. But P angel is not going to post differently because of what people say either. And the attitude era is so not over.
You are not going to get serious parenting advice on here. It's not for that level of issue. And if you think there is child abuse involved posting here is just about as useful or less.
I don't agree with Libralady's parenting style at all. But it's not like I can alter that on here. I think she needs serious help and so does the kid.
I can be the worst key board warrior person. But there you go.
and btw, Tiz, it doesn't matter how she acts to me ....
How ridiculous to have an argument with me, in attempting to make a point of: how she acts around me
because I don't a rats ass how someone acts around me, or to me ... I CARE about the baby being abused
My aim is to keep this visible, in the event someone who actually cares about the baby comes snooping around behind her back .. and will see this to realize that the baby needs to be taken away from her.
Posted by tizianiâ? what do you mean?
I guess eventually all older DXP users become a victim to DXP itself. There's no beating the system. Robyn warned me of this. Everything Robyn has told me about life has turned out to be bang on the money.
Posted by tiziani
I see now that Pisces are vulnerable and impressionable but I just never gave it enough consideration.
My character isn't typical of Pisces in situations such as this .... typically, they would rather blend into the wall then make a stand.
This is more to do with my particular mind being incapable of moving past something that is wrong. Some things cannot be glossed over, and hitting a baby is one of those things. Whereas, you, and others, can move past this kind of infraction ..... my mind cannot.
It's not acceptable.
At any rate, I don't give a rats ass how you look at me now compared to other times ..... whatever gets dick your hard is on you to deal with, not me.
I believe you p angel when you say you care about the baby. Everyone does. Libra lady does too.
But you need to realize bumping a thread on an astrology forum is not going to get noticed. It's ..an astrology forum.
But you need to realize bumping a thread on an astrology forum is not going to get noticed. It's ..an astrology forum.
I know going to the police nine times out of ten does nothing. But if you feel something is genuinely wrong. Then that is all you can do and leave it with them.
Posted by tizianiTroll. Stop baiting her into a fight.
You were the last of us, P. We bet it all on you. It all died with you.
Now we're left with just old users who talk about how they can't move past something they think is wrong, yet they never actually do anything in the real world to address it. They just post about it in the internet.
This can't be life.
You talk in past tense.
Are you leaving, Tiz?
Posted by FloGood for you and your son.
My 3yr old is
Cap sun
Sag moon
Virgo rising.
I've been severely abused so this thread of some spankings and wall time is nothing! I do not put my child through what I went too but she does get time out.
Posted by Flo
My 3yr old is
Cap sun
Sag moon
Virgo rising.
I've been severely abused so this thread of some spankings and wall time is nothing! I do not put my child through what I went too but she does get time out.
So, because you endured being abused, then it's something a baby should easily get over ... in your theory.
Just man-up you little 2 year old and take a punch ... because you were abused, and so that makes it ok.
What a moron.
Posted by tizianitrent, i have to admit, i'm quite partial to a gif.
Animated gifs all over the front page. I can't compete with that.
See you guys in Rocky 6.
i understand what you are saying about the pluto in sagg members, my pluto in libra enjoys the back and forth though.
Posted by tizianithanks, it's nice to hear something nice right now ... I like you a lot also, and you do a good job with the yearly awards.
They died with you, P. You were the flag-bearer of that era. Godspeed.
Posted by tizianiyeah keep up old manPosted by jeaneYeah most people love the animated gifs. That's when I realised I'm old đPosted by tizianitrent, i have to admit, i'm quite partial to a gif.
Animated gifs all over the front page. I can't compete with that.
See you guys in Rocky 6.
i understand what you are saying about the pluto in sagg members, my pluto in libra enjoys the back and forth though.
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(sorry! last one in your direction đ)
Posted by exxtasyxwould hit another person? would you hit your partner? would you hit another person's child? would that be considered assault? would it be considered abusive?
I'm still having trouble comprehending how spanking is abuse. Maybe it's just an ethnic thing but spanking is not abuse in my eyes. When my parents were growing up they got the wooden spoon and the leather belt, now that can be considered abuse. A little spank here and there and holding a baby's arm against the wall to keep them from not leaving their time out is not abuse... Although communicating with them and taking their toys away would be my style of parenting, I still don't see the other option as abuse.
i guess the argument is if you wouldn't hit a adult, why would hitting a child who is smaller and weaker be ok? if it is abuse to hit a fully formed adult who has the capacity to hit you back, why isn't abuse when you hit someone who can't?
Posted by tizianiFair play.Posted by BlondeAmbitionThere will be no fights. We've already settled that.Posted by tizianiTroll. Stop baiting her into a fight.
You were the last of us, P. We bet it all on you. It all died with you.
Now we're left with just old users who talk about how they can't move past something they think is wrong, yet they never actually do anything in the real world to address it. They just post about it in the internet.
This can't be life.click to expand
Posted by mrpepperidgePosted by LeoAquaRulerwe're just in the pool waiting for aliens.
Pluto in sag life.... I am trying my best to control all the pluto scorpios.. they are a crazy bunch.
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lol!
Posted by mrpepperidgePosted by LeoAquaRulerwe're just in the pool waiting for aliens.
Pluto in sag life.... I am trying my best to control all the pluto scorpios.. they are a crazy bunch.
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Facepalm.
ever wish people would cut the crap?
Posted by exxtasyxso the effect of the act changes depending on the intention?
Lol well I have been in my fair share of physical fights in middle school and high school but to answer your question, at my age now, 22 - no, I would not hit another person. If they stood out of line, then maybe I would, who knows.
But I don't feel like it's a fair comparison. Hitting an adult and spanking a child. You're not raising that adult, you're not responsible for that adult - but when you have a child you are raising them and responsible for their behavior. I still don't see anything wrong with a little spank, it's not like she's viciously spanking the child with all her force, it's a fricking 2 year old. A little spank on the behind is not abuse.
We live in such a politically correct world right now that everyone wants to scream and holler "abuse" at everything. "OMG, you're giving a cat a bath, that's animal abuse!" "OMG, you called a fat person fat, you are emotionally abusing them!" Some of it is just a joke to me. To say this child is being abused for a little spank is ridiculous when there are children out there who truly get abused.
if a husband feels responsible for his wife and their religion permits it, would it be acceptable for him to hit his wife? after all, he sees it that she is a part of him, he is responsible for her and responsible for her behaviour. would you say it is ok for him to hit her with the intention of discipline?
It's not ideal parenting. I don't know a lot about raising kids though.I have no idea if this is ok or not. I just don't.
How common is spanking amongst those of you who have kids??
How common is spanking amongst those of you who have kids??
Posted by exxtasyxah, but for that person, from that culture, that is not true. husbands are responsible for their wives, fathers are responsible for their adult daughters. culturally, hitting your wife is permitted in the name of discipline. women are not considered to be fully fledged people and do not have the same rights as men. they are the second, weaker sex.
It's a completely different thing. When you're an adult no one is responsible for you but yourself. You do not "discipline" another adult like you would with a child. You're not responsible for the behavior of another adult.
what you're showing is that spanking a child is acceptable to you and your culture. it's a cultural bias. that doesn't mean it is an absolute truth.
Posted by exxtasyxmy point is, what people determine abuse is dependent on your age, your upbringing, your life experience and your culture.Posted by jeaneI still feel like spanking a child is not abuse. I think that's a little extreme to label that abuse and to compare that to men hitting their wives. Especially in other cultures where men literally beat the CRAP out of their wives... Comparing that to smacking a child on the butt to discipline them is just extreme in my eyes. It's like comparing weed to heroin. Both mind altering drugs, but weed is not nearly as dangerous and not lethal at all compared to heroin.Posted by exxtasyxah, but for that person, from that culture, that is not true. husbands are responsible for their wives, fathers are responsible for their adult daughters. culturally, hitting your wife is permitted in the name of discipline. women are not considered to be fully fledged people and do not have the same rights as men. they are the second, weaker sex.
It's a completely different thing. When you're an adult no one is responsible for you but yourself. You do not "discipline" another adult like you would with a child. You're not responsible for the behavior of another adult.
what you're showing is that spanking a child is acceptable to you and your culture. it's a cultural bias. that doesn't mean it is an absolute truth.
Like I said, I personally do not think spanking is a good parenting technique, not because I feel like it's abusive, but because I don't think the child learns anything from it. But if I had a wife who spanked our child I wouldn't be screaming "ABUSE" lol.click to expand
you can say you feel it is not abuse but equally, people can with equal measure claim it is. in earlier posts i have posted the definition of physical abuse and what the uk's childline considers to be abuse.
is there a right answer? i guess that in 50 years the thought of hitting your child will be considered barbaric.
Posted by tizianiI'm good đPosted by blackphaseI was trolling P but we were never going to fight. P knows how to take it, I know how to take it.Posted by BlondeAmbitionAre you for serious.. ?Posted by tizianiTroll. Stop baiting her into a fight.
You were the last of us, P. We bet it all on you. It all died with you.
Now we're left with just old users who talk about how they can't move past something they think is wrong, yet they never actually do anything in the real world to address it. They just post about it in the internet.
This can't be life.
You're new.. and not aware of the actual trolls here.. Tiz a troll.. ROFL!
You attack an upstanding member who is putting a troll in her place..
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Posted by tizianiI fucking hate it and the spamming.. but then we already know I'm an old lady đPosted by jeaneYeah most people love the animated gifs. That's when I realised I'm old đPosted by tizianitrent, i have to admit, i'm quite partial to a gif.
Animated gifs all over the front page. I can't compete with that.
See you guys in Rocky 6.
i understand what you are saying about the pluto in sagg members, my pluto in libra enjoys the back and forth though.
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Posted by jeaneBecause physical language is children's language. They are not on your level, sometimes you gotta get down to theirs in order to get the messege across. Not like they gonna listen to your lame adult logic at all times bc again, they're children.. it's not their frequency.
would hit another person? would you hit your partner? would you hit another person's child? would that be considered assault? would it be considered abusive?
i guess the argument is if you wouldn't hit a adult, why would hitting a child who is smaller and weaker be ok?
I don't approve of 'cruel and unusual punishment'... and not all parents know the difference ,I'll level with you there.
"why would hitting a child who is smaller and weaker be ok? "
Bc them being weaker has nothing to do with it. You are not getting into a boxing ring ffs. It's not about physical strenght, it's parenting.
Posted by enfant_terribleunfortunately a growing number of scientists and researchers believe it to be an ineffective form of parenting and teaching. indeed, it is not their frequency.Posted by jeaneBecause physical language is children's language. They are not on your level, sometimes you gotta get down to theirs in order to get the messege across. Not like they gonna listen to your lame adult logic at all times bc again, they're children.. it's not their frequency.
would hit another person? would you hit your partner? would you hit another person's child? would that be considered assault? would it be considered abusive?
i guess the argument is if you wouldn't hit a adult, why would hitting a child who is smaller and weaker be ok?click to expand
"Many studies have shown that physical punishment â including spanking, hitting and other means of causing pain â can lead to increased aggression, antisocial behavior, physical injury and mental health problems for children. Americansâ acceptance of physical punishment has declined since the 1960s, yet surveys show that two-thirds of Americans still approve of parents spanking their kids.
But spanking doesnât work, says Alan Kazdin, PhD, a Yale University psychology professor and director of the Yale Parenting Center and Child Conduct Clinic. âYou cannot punish out these behaviors that you do not want,â says Kazdin, who served as APA president in 2008. âThere is no need for corporal punishment based on the research. We are not giving up an effective technique. We are saying this is a horrible thing that does not work.â
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx
i also think there are two questions going on here. there is "do i have the right?" and also "is it effective?" i think it's important not to cross the two,
Posted by jeaneUnfortunately I don't care what Alan Kazdin PhD says because scientist and researchers are dime a dozen these days. You can literally support any side or claim, no matter how wild or ridiculous, by a simple google job. It's lost all its credibility.
unfortunately a growing number of scientists and researchers believe it to be an ineffective form of parenting and teaching. indeed, it is not their frequency.
"Many studies have shown that physical punishment â including spanking, hitting and other means of causing pain â can lead to increased aggression, antisocial behavior, physical injury and mental health problems for children. Americansâ acceptance of physical punishment has declined since the 1960s, yet surveys show that two-thirds of Americans still approve of parents spanking their kids.
But spanking doesnât work, says Alan Kazdin, PhD, a Yale University psychology professor and director of the Yale Parenting Center and Child Conduct Clinic. âYou cannot punish out these behaviors that you do not want,â says Kazdin, who served as APA president in 2008. âThere is no need for corporal punishment based on the research. We are not giving up an effective technique. We are saying this is a horrible thing that does not work.â
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx
i also think there are two questions going on here. there is "do i have the right?" and also "is it effective?" i think it's important not to cross the two,
The absolutely worst thing a parent can do is read a book on parenting. We got a generation raised by "experts" and child psychologists. Maybe that's the reason behind "increased aggression, amtisocial behavioir, physical injury and mental health problems".
I'll go as far as saying that cultures where parents know how to 'lay hands' on their kids also generally have a closer bond in adulthood, as result. But that's just a wild observational conclusion by enfant terrible PhD. I look around myself in this utopia I live in, and I see parents who have totally lost the physical instinct with their children. They even hug their kids awkwardly ffs.
Posted by enfant_terrible Unfortunately I don't care what Alan Kazdin PhD says because scientist and researchers are dime a dozen these days. You can literally support any side or claim, no matter how wild or ridiculous, by a simple google job. It's lost all its credibility.I know. And smoking is good for you, the sun revolves around the earth and earth's centre is made of marshmallow. Damn tricky scientists!
The absolutely worst thing a parent can do is read a book on parenting. We got a generation raised by "experts" and child psychologists. Maybe that's the reason behind "increased aggression, amtisocial behavioir, physical injury and mental health problems".
I'll go as far as saying that cultures where parents know how to 'lay hands' on their kids also generally have a closer bond in adulthood, as result. But that's just a wild observational conclusion by enfant terrible PhD. I look around myself in this utopia I live in, and I see parents who have totally lost the physical instinct with their children. They even hug their kids awkwardly ffs.
You're confusing hard science with quack science. The latter changes with whatever is on Oprah's book club atm.
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