Pissed Off A Libra And Now Regret It

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Before I go further into the libra scenario, I wanted to give some background on myself.

Aquarius Sun, Aries Moon, Venus Sagittarius, Cancer -5th House, Ascendant- Aries

Ascendant-Aries
House II- Taurus
House III-Gemini
House IV- Cancer
House V- Cancer
House VI- Leo
House VII-Libra
House VIII- Scorpio
House IX- Sagittarius
Midheaven- Capricorn
House XI- Capricorn
House XII- Aquarius

He is:

Sun
Libra 21°46' Ascendant
Leo 2°11'

Moon
Gemini 16°35' II
Leo 21°34'

Mercury
Libra 24°45' III
Virgo 15°20'

Venus
Scorpio 23°33' IV
Libra 15°56'

Mars
Capricorn 6°47' V
Scorpio 23°13'

Jupiter
Capricorn 6°18' VI
Capricorn 0°40'

Saturn
Scorpio 15°52' VII
Aquarius 2°11'

Uranus
Sagittarius 10°55' VIII
Aquarius 21°34'

Neptune
Sagittarius 29°00' IX
Pisces 15°20'

Pluto
Scorpio 1°40' Midheaven
Aries 15°56'

Lilith
Aries 4°20' XI
Taurus 23°13'

Asc node
Taurus 27°51' XII
Cancer 0°40'


I am so frustrated with my lack of tact and patience. I do want to continue pursuing a relationship with him but (as I recently discovered) my Aries moon is in direct conflict with the Cancer in 5th house.

I'm not a person comfortable with my emotions in general and didn't grow up in an environment where serious feelings were really accepted. He brings out the emotionally immature and undeveloped side of me. I want to let go of my emotions but I just can't get a grip on them when I do

I'm saddened by this because I feel that I keep messing up something that could be quite good. I'm an alpha female but in love I think I'm a bit more traditional (damn Cancer house!).

My aries moon is really a problem in my relationships with guys in general and I've just reached a point of frustration.

Help!
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Hmm interesting. Didn't think about that. Just recently discovered the caner aspect and of course my aquarius sun is freaking out. FEEELLINGGSS- NOOOOOOOOO!!! lol!

But I'm trying to accept all aspects so..

Well, I'm very good with words- I write professionally lol. So when there's a disagreement, I go for the verbal jugular. And then I keep going and it gets ugly. I'm too ashamed to say what I said in detail in public. I'd have to pm you for that lol.

But he basically feels/felt/said he doesn't understand me and how i can react like that
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Just chill out. Control your woman hormones i know alot dag women speaking on your venus part they have alpha personalities and sometimes can be immature and say things before speaking that could hurt other feelings. They r just very blunt ppl but when dealing with libra in general you have to be mindful of how u talk and approach them etc. The direct blunt alpha snappy approach isn't going to work with them
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Oh how I wished I would've known this earlier lol.

Posted by lovely77
Just chill out. Control your woman hormones i know alot dag women speaking on your venus part they have alpha personalities and sometimes can be immature and say things before speaking that could hurt other feelings. They r just very blunt ppl but when dealing with libra in general you have to be mindful of how u talk and approach them etc. The direct blunt alpha snappy approach isn't going to work with them

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@justagirl - OMG I love you!I feel like bluntness is the death of easygoing people lol. ohhhh... Cap mercury- You're lucky. I have taurus in my 2nd house and some earth in my chart but not where I want it to be lol. Venus in sag for me, uranus in sag, saturn in sag. 8th house is Scorpio :?


Capricorn mother, sept libra dad. Only child. ENTP meyers briggs
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Enough said. :/

By the way how do you guys do the smileys on here?
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Houses more so reflects you life paths like career love marriage family health luck etc. House 4 and 5 is in cancer i would assume your a family oriented person etc like your life path i dont think it relates to emotions etc. My best friend one is aries one is sag and i know they can be blunt and forward. I like blunt forward people. But sometimes my bf offends ppl because shes too blunt and ppl tkae it personal. Aries are strong minded too. Venus relates to how you love and the moon is about one character etc both of yours are fire
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@ElTigre24- I'm not sure I would say I would agree with emotionally insecure. I think I am being quite direct in my posts. I don't think your mother and I share that because if I wanted someone I could "push around", I probably wouldn't be spending all this time posting on an anonymous message board. I would be busy trying to figure out how to control them, not control myself. In fact, an alpha woman in the way you described her would probably just ignore your post. I think you're thinking of the older, traditional alpha females not us new school version.

I don't think passive equates with something negative and I don't think he's passive. I think he's more in tune with his emotions then I am. I am used to dealing with others who don't either have a lot of feelings or ignore them like I often try to do. So for someone like himself to be so direct with feelings and expect the same is an uncomfortable yet attractive aspect that I want to explore more.

As far as me being a "bitch" *Kanye Shrug* Can't please everybody.

Posted by ElTigre24
There is nothing wrong with a sassy woman or a woman who is SELF-controlled. You, on the other hand, scream emotionally insecure. I'm sure many men have to pay for your self-undoing which is wrong altogether. I have a mother who calls herself an "alpha woman". The only men she attracts are weak men who let her push them around. Your personality definitely doesn't sound healthy, in my opinion.

Yeah but I just don't see you attracting men other than the passive types so you may as well deal with that burden. Or you can stop being a bitch, the choice is yours. I guess.

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@lovely77- I would prefer to be more balanced. Having a lot of fire can make you impulsive and I would like a bit more water or something else to balance it lol. I sometimes think it's a matter of allowing certain parts to "come to the surface" so to speak at certain times. That's what I'm currently trying to work on.

I'm always impressed with cancers because of their ability to just "feel" and the fact that they are comfortable with that. In my mind, that's brave.

Posted by lovely77
Its not bad at all 4 me. I can handle that. Partners need to learn eachother and anything will work etc. I have tbis theory that everyone can be together no matter what sign you are. We just have to work on our own self and ego to be sympathy and emphatic all relationship will work when the ego isnt invovled wnd each sign has their own set ego to work on.

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@ElTigre24- Whew! Someone's a little sensitive today! I didn't agree with what you said, I never said I didn't value it. By responding, I assumed you would know that I valued your opinion. You took the time to respond to my post so I was merely doing the same. I value all of the comments that are posted. If you're expecting adoration then I'm sorry that isn't what you're getting.

I wasn't offended by what you said, so I'm not sure why you're reacting emotionally.

You seem to have some issues with "alpha women", not sure if it's connected to your mother or not but...I don't really know you and I don't know these "other women" you're referring to.

For someone who's focusing on my "emotionally immature" self, you're sure jumping to a lot of conclusions.

Pot call the kettle black?

Posted by ElTigre24
Lol, what do you have to prove then? My perception was that of you sounding emotionally immature. The other users already kissed your ass and fed you what you wanted to hear. It's no use with you gullible folks.

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@Tiziani- Yes, I don't want to feel vulnerable because of a few things. One being the libra disappear/reappear act. Additionally, I don't want to lose myself in a guy and I'm afraid that by being the open book he's asking me to be, that there's a chance that could happen. I also don't have the familiarity with relationships of the intense nature that he does and so I want to take things slow and really get to know him. He wants to understand me immediately and because he doesn't that seems to be a problem. I want to establish a friendship first to make sure we are compatible. This is a second chance for us and I don't want it to be ruined by rushing things

Posted by tiziani
What is it a vulnerability to feeling emotionally exposed in his company?

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@ElTigre24- This is my final post with this. You didn't offend me, I find your bluntness and directness attractive.

Since you never gave me the opportunity to divulge into my alpha female comment further. I am an Alpha SUBMISSIVE female:

https://dominantsoul.wordpress.com/self-understanding/alpha-submissives/

So I do NOT like being in control of relationships. I want to release "power" to someone else.

Just pointing out so it's clear.
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@tiziani

Let me try to put it in context. Typing and driving sorry. By the way, I think we both are not at our emotionally mature best but hey, what do I know? Like I always say, if someone is taking time out of THEIR day, the least I can do is do the work.

He is italian from italy so his english and phrasing isn't always spot on. I think its miscommunication and a whole lot of repressed emotions for each other and trying to protect ourselves from past hurts happening again. Who the hell knows what he thinks!

He and I met about 5 years ago and not so good times in our lives. He had just divorced and I was out there modeling and basically rebelling.

Our first date, we slept together (hey I was a free spirit back then!) I liked him thought he was attractive and then basically thought I had a gorgeous fwb.

He apparently didn't do casual and so we tried to create some quasi dating scenario that didn't end up working. We were younger than. He's 31 now and I'm turning 29 in feb(yay!)

At that time we were both living in the same city and now we are 9 hours away in the same state. He has one more year on the job and then he is trying to move down to where I am (not because of me or anything). I= Los Angeles, him-San Francisco. He's getting established in his career. I took time off to model professionally and now will be finishing school and applying to law school. I am a agented author as well so obviously words are my strong point.

During that time 5 years ago. We argued, at that time my Aries moon was even more prominent and then he vanished. With him I always felt this unnerving desire to be romantic and so in effort to protect my feelings I stupidly just tried to sex them out until I got bored of him (did NOT work) or just be free with them (equally bad and messy because I couldn't control them).

I grew up thinking women who were emotional were weak (Capricorn mommy) and while I know that's not the case, it is going to take me time to feel comfortable being vulnerable.

I tried reaching out to him a few times in between the years and we would speak and then poof he'd be gone again. Of course my feelings were hurt so I blew up. Most of my experience with relationships is through sex-by my choice. I do not like emotions. Emotions =messy = Drama. Imagine my surprise when two days ago, I finally pay attention to the signs in my houses and realize I have a cancer in the 5th house!! I swear I had a nervous breakdown for a hour.

Yet, I digress-back to the story.

I would see what sobbing and being in love did to all of my female friends so I actively avoided that to the point where I've only had 2 serious relationships. My first boyfriend and love was a Capricorn-took me 8 years to get over him. Ex fiancée-Taurus which I Broke off(didn't treat me well at all and I knew I didn't want to be with emotionally abusive guy). So this libra would be my 3rd serious relationship.

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@tiziani
*I must really like this guy because I'm posting all this shit.

continued:I'm not a person who sleeps well with unresolved conflict because it's in my nature to just deal with it. So I went about my life and presumably his during that time.

He recently contacted me-recent as in last week and then apologized for how he wasn't patient, bad time in his life etc. he wanted to see if we could try again and see if things would be different.

I apologized for my part, Aries moon and Aquarius sun-I don't hold grudges. Plus I figured if he took the initiative to contact me the Least I could do was hear him out.

He came on strong, which was different but I was ok with it. Next person I date I want to marry that sort of thing.

We had a disagreement where I said I felt he hurt my feelings but just needed time (time for Aries moon is less than 24 hours!). Was over it the next day and thought everything was fine. To him, it wasn't. Apparently he had gotten the idea that that I had "snapped" even though I get quiet and withdrawn when my feelings are hurt.

By the way this convo, went like this:

Me: so why did you really contact me?

Him: I wanted to put my hands on you, thought it would be easier to reach out to you because I know you used to like me, want to see if there is something there now that we are older

*silence*

My feelings were hurt so I got quiet and when he kept pressing " i feel like I said something wrong"

So I finally told him that i felt hurt. I had planned on reaching out to him later on next year when things weren't so hectic for me so I was happy we were both thinking of each other. He had a relationship last year I was single but not dating.

I could go into further detail and finish what we each said to each other but I feel like this post is too long already.

Bottom line he didn't text me for christmas I was upset.
Said we should just be friends, then he unloads all these feelings I know he had about "passionate women" can we really be compatible", what do I want with us etc.

I am distant because I'm just surprised by all of this, then angry I unload on him. Neither of us was smart enough to call each other on phone.

So now we are at an impasse. I reached out yesterday. His big grip was always that we don't understand each other and we are different. He wants to understand me and I think we should just get to know each other and enjoy the challenge.

So.. I sent this yesterday in text-I am very confident based on these short interactions about who you are, what you want, what you need, what you're afraid of and why you're upset and disappointed in me. If you'll allow me, let me tell you what I think. If I'm generally right, then you and I can start a friendship and see what/if anything happens. If I am generally wrong, then I will let you go on about your life (for real this time) and ne
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@tiziani

So.. I sent this yesterday in text-I am very confident based on these short interactions about who you are, what you want, what you need, what you're afraid of and why you're upset and disappointed in me.



If you'll allow me, let me tell you what I think. If I'm generally right, then you and I can start a friendship and see what/if anything happens.



If I am generally wrong, then I will let you go on about your life (for real this time) and never bother you again.



Will you allow me to do this?



I have NEVER been led astray with astrology and have 1,000% confidence in it.


Ugh. I have headache thinking about all these damn feelings and I'm sure you all have a migraine reading this lol. This is why sex is easier lol. Unfortunately that's not an option.

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@tiziani- You're absolutely right. I really wasn't emotionally ready when he contacted me last week but I didn't want to miss out on a possible second chance.

I agree with the text messaging. I feel like he has this aversion to friendship with me. I'm not sure if he thinks I will date other people, not what he wants to hear? Just not sure. We have a lot of sexual energy but I do think we really need to have time to get to know each other.

He asked me directly about being compatible and if I saw us together. I said I thought he didn't want to be with me. (Palm smack!) I take people's words literally because I place a high value on words so I have to stop doing that. Like yesterday! 😉

As far as passionate- I think he is attracted to more vocal women and so he's bringing in some baggage with that. I used the word passionate because it sounds better than hot tempered and he said he understands passionate. He's a passionate person but how I react isn't "normal" to him.

Oh you did write a book? Have a link?
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cellent points to both of you. Can you tell me, if you were in his shoes what your emotions and thoughts would be?

Obviously, I would love to know a solution and how to fix this but he repeatedly said he always feels that he is being misunderstood lately and that people keep taking his words out of context (not just me but people at work and in general) and that he wishes he knew how hard it was for him to open up.

So I would like to try to understand where he might be coming from.

Got your link and will be buying your book.

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@tiziani- You're absolutely right. I really wasn't emotionally ready when he contacted me last week but I didn't want to miss out on a possible second chance.

I agree with the text messaging. I feel like he has this aversion to friendship with me. I'm not sure if he thinks I will date other people, not what he wants to hear? Just not sure. We have a lot of sexual energy but I do think we really need to have time to get to know each other.

He asked me directly about being compatible and if I saw us together. I said I thought he didn't want to be with me. (Palm smack!) I take people's words literally because I place a high value on words so I have to stop doing that. Like yesterday! 😉

As far as passionate- I think he is attracted to more vocal women and so he's bringing in some baggage with that. I used the word passionate because it sounds better than hot tempered and he said he understands passionate. He's a passionate person but how I react isn't "normal" to him.

Oh you did write a book? Have a link?
There's nothing particular wrong with getting to know people through touch if you're just naturally geared towards visceral senses. Same with valuing words. If that's how it is for you, that's how it is. LuckyLibra is right in that you're always going to get people/regulars here telling you what to think, say or do until you're supposedly "ready" to date or be in a relationship. That's just a part of this forum. But there's only so much you moderate your own nature.

The only point where words become a problem is when they're out of sync with actions (on both sides, not just his but yours too. Even the lack of action can suffocate the best connection).

Anyway yes this does touch upon the short guide. It is short and It's written to get through in one night then wake up tomorrow knowing how to build the clean slate. It's all here: http://www.my-ab.com/underneath-the-libra-man/

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@tiziani- I appreciate your honesty and understand. Do you have any advice on how I should handle this?I really don't want it to be another pop up situation. Either we try to work on this now or nothing but I really do want to try to work this out with him. Since I'm a person not afraid of confrontation I'm doing my damnest not to contact him lol. It's barely been 24 hours since I've sent that lol
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@ tiziani- Does paypal work? I don't know what alipay is but I can sign up

Posted by tiziani
Yeah, I'd never go down that route because I'm not him. I think that's one of the classic traps of astro, I've been in it for a while and there's really only a few patterns you can spread across the board from the outset until it has to get very personal and intensely specific to the person themselves. Everything that can be spread universally as patterns for all Libras are just 5 very common traits I've already written about there.

When he says he wishes people understand how hard it is for him, that sounds like something he has to work out with or without you. It's his own individual bag to carry. That's all I can say.

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e it! I get to be a naughty girl ‰

Are you a sept or October libra?
Posted by LuckyLibra979
Posted by Aquagirl2015
Who me? ‡‡

You guys have a way of putting people in their place. Haven't quite figured out how you do it but I want to. I do love to buck the system lol. ˆ

Posted by LuckyLibra979
Posted by Aquagirl2015
@LuckyLibra979- Oh really now...? How do you plan on doing that? lol

Posted by LuckyLibra979
I know how to control that 😉

Lol

Ha! Lol you're a playful one I see
Lol I see and yes we do but it depends on how much fire you light under our ass. We can be gentle about it or we can be forceful about it. There is never just one way to a solution with a Libra, we measure our force
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@moondust-you completely get how I feel. I don't even think it's subconscious. It's just that amount of closeness scares the hell out of me. But he makes me want it with him specifically which is unnerving and frustrating.

Posted by moondust
I'm also Aquarius sun and I've been with Libra men in the past (yeah plural lol 2 only). I'm reserved and I'd rather keep my feelings just for myself. I have lots of air in my chart (also Libra Venus) and no water except for Pluto - which rules my whole generation, so it doesn't mean that much alone.
What others said about Libras is the pure truth - you have to be very careful about what you say, they're easily offended. Usually they don't hold grudges though, you can always talk to them and work it out.

I'm not the best person to give advice (as I have emotional problems myself), but you don't need to feel vulnerable because you have feelings for someone. I used to feel like that too, because much as I loved someone, I could never completely trust my feelings to this person. I was fighting an inner battle with myself: I had feelings for someone but I feltl like I shouldn't, then I did something to screw it all up and feel "safe" again.
You need to find balance between rational and emotional, and this takes time and patience.

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What can I say...if love were sex I would be fucking Cupid.

Leo moon-do tell. I'm curious

Posted by LuckyLibra979
Posted by Aquagirl2015
The bedroom part I got covered lol. He's still talking my ahem..skills, 5 years later lol.

I feel that's the only thing I got right the first time around. œ

Oh you're right after him. Interesting-what's your moon sign?
Posted by LuckyLibra979
Lol yes u can Libras like kinky n new things we just gotta stop being shy about it n I'm an October Libra. 10/15
Lol well u got that sewed up and I have a Leo moon, have to always feel the funk lol
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I will let him bitch and moan and I'll kiss his boo-boo to make it all better. Just pick up the damn phone and call me! Lol!! ¬ðŸ™„†

Posted by LuckyLibra979
@moondust yes we take a lot to heart. We are sensitive creatures but I find aquas overlook us which makes it easier to smooth things over with y'all. Just let us bitch n moan for a while its a lot better than silent treatments and tantrums

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ed to suck all of the mental energy and knowledge from your brain. Only then will I allow you back onto the forum where you then function as a vegetable

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Posted by LuckyLibra979
@moondust yes we take a lot to heart. We are sensitive creatures but I find aquas overlook us which makes it easier to smooth things over with y'all. Just let us bitch n moan for a while its a lot better than silent treatments and tantrums
I'm replying 😄
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