Should I believe him & what he promises ? (Page 2)

This topic was created in the Libra forum by Emilyk1991 on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 and has 171 replies.

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@Nefer
17 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

Posted by Emilyk1991
I understand now Nefer, I ended it FOR GOOD last night & told him I was worth more.

Now let your ACTIONS match your WORDS, otherwise he'll keep seeing you as a BIG FAT JOKE (like Artisa said!) who can't even stick to her decisions.

UGH.. LIBRA CHARM needs to be OUTLAWED! 😱

I'm calling an EMERGENCY SESSION OF CONGRESS, damnit! 😛

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

I'm NEVER going back, it's like a roller coaster. Hahahaa Libras need to come with a warning sign, I wish I new then what I know now. Ughh I feel so exhausted.

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@Sag_Cap_Beauty*Cusp
16 YearsSagittarius

Posted by THEKingofLibra

Posted by Emilyk1991
Yes he deff has issues, thats kind of what intrigued me more about him. I wanted to know his life story, I wanted to sort of fix his unhappiness because hes deff not happy ... not with his relatinonsip but just with himself, sort of a cry for help lol.

See. You are still too young and stupid for a real relationship. This hero complex, trying to save a man and change him. What you deserve is to be fucked over, jizzed on and used up like a sideline hoe that you are. Because no man in his right mind should ever date you.

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Sheesh lol

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@Nefer
17 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

Well.. if it's any consolation... the MATURE Libra guys can be pretty fabulous, truly. Their natural charm is a deadly weapon that's very dangerous in a (young, immature, unsettled) Libra guy! lol

But I guess maturity makign a difference goes for ANY sign, right? You work out your problems and flaws, learn some stuff about life and what you really want and how to treat people.. you know, grow up and stuff. And eventually, your GOOD qualities SHOULD outnumber your BAD haha

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

True, sag's dont like settling down. I didn't want to settle down with him I just wanted him all to myself. I wanted to be serious without a label ... & if things got serious I would have wanted to be in a relationship. & yes he is very mean =/

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@Nefer
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Sag girls are usually a fabulous match for Libra guys.. I see it all the time!

Well, if the Sag doesn't rip his heart out and stomp that sucker flat, that is. Cuz the one that can usualyl turn the tables on a Libra guy and have him eating out of her hand.. yeah, Sag girl got his number haha

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

Aww.. you are a Sag? I miss my short fling with a Sag. I think if its gonna be any sign its gonna be a Sag that I'm gonna settle down with.

Yes I am Sag/Cap, but what happend with you fling, were you mean to her too ? -______-

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@Sag_Cap_Beauty*Cusp
16 YearsSagittarius

Posted by Nefer
Sag girls are usually a fabulous match for Libra guys.. I see it all the time!

Well, if the Sag doesn't rip his heart out and stomp that sucker flat, that is. Cuz the one that can usualyl turn the tables on a Libra guy and have him eating out of her hand.. yeah, Sag girl got his number haha

😄

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

Posted by Nefer
Sag girls are usually a fabulous match for Libra guys.. I see it all the time!

Well, if the Sag doesn't rip his heart out and stomp that sucker flat, that is. Cuz the one that can usualyl turn the tables on a Libra guy and have him eating out of her hand.. yeah, Sag girl got his number haha

Yes I read up on that, we are good for them ... thats what kinda gave me hope with him lol.

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@Nefer
17 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

Believe it or not, Emily.. as much as KoL likes to stir up shit around here... theres a much softer, sweeter side to him that peeks out sometimes. I'd be willing to bet HE was the one screwed over in his relationships/flings.

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@Sag_Cap_Beauty*Cusp
16 YearsSagittarius

Posted by Nefer
Believe it or not, Emily.. as much as KoL likes to stir up shit around here... theres a much softer, sweeter side to him that peeks out sometimes. I'd be willing to bet HE was the one screwed over in his relationships/flings.

I like KOL he reminds me of my Lib with his wittyness and funny humor lol

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@Nefer
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Capitalize? Capture?

*puzzled* Okay, feel dumb.. please shine some light. I don't even know if you're denying or agreeing with my assessment?

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

Posted by THEKingofLibra

Posted by Emilyk1991

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Sags go well with Scorpios too.. mine was stolen by a Scorpio. But he used more 'hands on' methods.. smacked her around.

On the booty ? 😉 Scorpios are freaks

Nah he found out she was cheating on him with me... slapped her around, broke a tooth, knocked her unconscious

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Aww, so you were the Sideline hoe or "Other Man" too lol. But I would never be with a guy who hit me smh no matter how much I loved him.

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@Nefer
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Okay.. that brings up another question.. KoL.. do you think Libra dudes get some kinda thrill or rush from being with girls that are cheating to be with them?

I ask, cuz truth be told.. my Leeb admits to a SHOCKING percentage of hooking up with chicks that were cheating to be with him.. he seemed to like the thrill, the danger, the sneaking around, the taboo, the not knowing exactly IF or WHEN he'd be with her again, or IF they'd get busted. And to tell you the truth.. he oddly DIDN'T hold it against her that she was clearly a cheater, would defend her vehemently as he'd defend Mother Teresa. Not that he usually ended up in serious relationships with them.. but he sure DID get hooked on a couple of them... until they ended the affair or went back to their man fulltime, or even found a NEW lover to cheat with, leaving him in the dust.

So... think that's a Libra thing? To like that off-balance, almost scary, almost dangerous feeling of knowing she's doing something really bad.. just to be with YOU?

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

Posted by THEKingofLibra

Posted by Emilyk1991

Aww, so you were the Sideline hoe or "Other Man" too lol. But I would never be with a guy who hit me smh no matter how much I loved him.

I was young. I didn't really care for relationships either. Didn't know she had a bf until after I've fucked her in a hot tub. Frankly never done any of the crazy shit I've done with her before or since then. Sag + Libra = lots of impulsive sex in random places.

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Lol funny you say because I think the most important reason I lasted that long was yes I am a vrgin & he always said our Mindstate sexualy was perfect & crazy.

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@Nefer
17 Years1,000+ PostsPisces

God, it's probably Libras lol NO WONDER he wants me MORE when I'm NOT his, when he CAN'T have me all the time! :p

What's the rest of your chart, I forget? (You can PM it if you want) I wonder if there's something other than Libra Sun that matches between you and him, cuz in THAT way.. you're like brothers from another mother. :p

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@Nefer
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HAHA wineaux.. wonder if that Cancer has any of the Libra's placements? Like .. Leo Venus, maybe? Libra Mercury/Mars.. the Virgo Moon makes him kind of a Sphinx, but it meshes fine with my own Tau Moon/Mars.

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

Posted by THEKingofLibra
I'd like to think I'm more of a water down Scorpio.. err.. more mellow and rational perhaps. Although.. sometimes it gets really dark. Still, I'd never hit a woman so I don't know what that guy was thinking

Scorpios like controlling people.

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

I've done my share of controlling, I don't really expect to gain anything out of it because I don't want anything. Its just for fun.

What do you mean by gain anything ? What is there to gain ?

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

Posted by THEKingofLibra
Well the objective of trying to control somebody is to gain something out of them. Be it leverage for future needs, or favors for present time. You can essentially get a higher salary, sexual favors, free things, or even feelings out of other people. For some people it is their modus operandi, like the Cancers that I know. They manipulate people and their feelings in order to get something out of them. For others its a defense mechanism like Pisces, who would rather drive you up a wall than let you creep into their mushy center. Like aPP, who would rather fuck a football team than be with Peri.

I see, good since you dont want any of that by controlling someone ... it shows you are a good person.

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@Nefer
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Posted by THEKingofLibra
Something I've noticed only recently.. There are lines in the sand that are drawn out for me. I can't control it. There are things that I'll never tolerate no matter how much rationalizing I try. Like what that Cancer bestfriend did. I just lost any love I had for him. There is no going back and all it took was for him to cross that line. So nothing really I have control over. Same with females, sometimes a girl will say or do something, and just like that, she is dead to me. You would think being a Libra you could forgive and take it easy, but those lines define who I am and I am in no position to change it.

HA! You don't even realize just HOW Libra that really is, huh?

Yeah, you guys are forgiving and rationalizing, and often take FAR too much relationship bs (esp with Aqua or Sag vipers? haha), and constantly looking at all the angles and trying to figure out if it makes any sense or is right for you to be pissed off or upset. Your tender, tender hearts deep inside.. you just want love, and to not be hurt or taken advantage of.. you want what most people want, only maybe you (secretly) crave it a leeeetle bit more (sign of Partnerships hehe)..

But Leebs AREN'T pushovers, despite the bleating claims of the unenlightened.. cross certain lines with a Leeb, go too far on something he REALLY feels deeply and truly about.. *click*.. you're dead to him, no mulligans. You can't UNSEE what is seen, you can't UNDO what is done.

And that's why Libras often come back around if he's unsure or still thinks something could work... and when he knows for sure it's DONE and can't be recovered from (whether by HER unforgivable words/actions or HIS logical, final decision about what's BEST).. he never comes back.

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@Nefer
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"For others its a defense mechanism like Pisces, who would rather drive you up a wall than let you creep into their mushy center."

Mmm shockingly astute there, Sir. It's been one of my challenges in my life of soul-searching and self-improvement.. allowing myself to be VULNERABLE, without soaring walls and moats of vicious crocs.

I've worked on this STUDIOUSLY for many, many years.. and only in the last couple have I found any real measurable success in overcoming my own defense mechanism.

For a young (and previously abused) girl like aPP... those walls aren't going to come down any time soon, if at all. She will have to completely tear down her own psyche and ego and id, and rebuild it from the ground up. It's a daunting task. :c

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Posted by THEKingofLibra

Posted by Nefer
cross certain lines with a Leeb, go too far on something he REALLY feels deeply and truly about..

Well that Cancer girl that I liked.. when I touched the back of her neck.. when I smiled at her and looked deep in her eyes.. I can't forgive anybody who would stand between that and me. Even if it is my bestfriend who sneaks behind my back and sleeps with her.

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I wouldn't presume to say ALL Cancers are like this (my Cancer husband was not.. he was a very gentle and loving man).. but I've got a Cancer brother who IS like this.. and absolutely remorseless about it.. all "You snooze, you lose! haha!"

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@Nefer
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I must not have whatever it is that's in those types.. My friends and I have completely different tastes anyway.. I mean, their guys are nice enough, but don't trip my trigger anyway haha.. and if my friend likes someone, my own attraction POOFS - there's like over 3 BILLION guys on the planet.. so easy to find one not previously dated by or currently liked by one of my friends (even in THIS small town!).. same as when I find out a man is taken.. GONE.. I'm not one of those girls that likes to "see" if she can "get" the taken man.. once I find out they're taken, attraction drops to ZERO, like a stone!

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@Nefer
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Heh.. but I'm not a Pisces MAN.. I'm a Pisces WOMAN.. and we have our own allure. Plus, I'm a cusper. Plus, I'm an Aries Venus and my Sag Neptune is said to be an extremely strong placement, making me more Fiery than a lot of Pisces girls are.

Some Pisces women (and even a lot of the Lunar Pisces too, like my oldest Tau daughter) almost come across like helpless, pretty, sorrowful china dolls.. you feel protective of them, like they're a little bit lost and need your guidance... with me, my FIRE shines through.. I've always been a sweetheart, and occasionally been a dumbass or a bit of a pushover.. I can bend, but I don't break... and I don't trigger people into feeling sorry for me, not ever. Not a damn thing pitiful or pathetic about me lol

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@Nefer
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Nah.. I wouldn't want to cross you for sure.. that Scorp Merc has already planned out the whole scenario in intricate detail, from the murdering to the disposing of the body in a way that it'll never be found 😛

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16 YearsSagittarius

Posted by Freetobe007
You're an idiot. I'm sorry, there's no way around it; you're being so stupid. First of all, he's showing you right now that he's a player! He's involved with someone else while he's talking to you! You want a guy that you could potentially be with who could most likely be leading another girl on or leave you for her— Your'e stupid. He's a player. He's going to keep playing you and stringing you along because you keep letting him. Honestly, you can't even be mad at him because he's showing you that he's an inconsiderate, selfish, whorish player, yet you're the one who keeps willingly hanging around!

Thats a little harsh. Everybody goes through things where they need just a little bit of guidance we all have to be stupid once in our lives to come back stronger from it. It all a part of life and learning experiences. I mean Granted you have some valid points but shes not gonna learn from it by you calling her an idiot lol.............Or maybe she will (Tough love?)

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Posted by Sag_Cap_Beauty*Cusp

Posted by Freetobe007
You're an idiot. I'm sorry, there's no way around it; you're being so stupid. First of all, he's showing you right now that he's a player! He's involved with someone else while he's talking to you! You want a guy that you could potentially be with who could most likely be leading another girl on or leave you for her— Your'e stupid. He's a player. He's going to keep playing you and stringing you along because you keep letting him. Honestly, you can't even be mad at him because he's showing you that he's an inconsiderate, selfish, whorish player, yet you're the one who keeps willingly hanging around!

Thats a little harsh. Everybody goes through things where they need just a little bit of guidance we all have to be stupid once in our lives to come back stronger from it. It all a part of life and learning experiences. I mean Granted you have some valid points but shes not gonna learn from it by you calling her an idiot lol.............Or maybe she will (Tough love?)

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True, true.. and I try to be sweet (though I occasionally am most assuredly NOT haha).. but..

I must point out... you Fire girls.. two Sags and a Leo... and you ALL KNOW there ARE some similarities to your Libra man troubles.. and with each and every one of you.. remember it's easier to look at something objectively when you aren't standing in the middle of it.. with each of you, you can see the OTHER girls' problem/faults/mistakes MUCH more clearly than your own! lol

Heck, I fall victim to it too... and the hardest thing I've done in a long, long time was to swallow the "free medicine" I dispense on DXP, hold my head high, and walk away from my Libra after two years living with him because he wasn't treating me as I deserved. HARDEST.. except for staying strong NOW, and not letting his charm pull me back in. Gonna take more than making promises and showing he CAN treat me right for the past seven weeks.. it's gonna take time.. and he may or may not have the strength or willingness to do what it takes for as long as it takes.. and I'm okay with that, cuz if he can't step up then he's not the man for me. THAT'S what inner strength/power/conviction does for us women.

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@Nefer
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Posted by THEKingofLibra

Posted by Nefer
My mind went there.. what's that say about ME? -_-

lol

You got issues, homeslice.

Like I said, most people don't see that Scorpios are one of the nicest, most sweet people you'll ever meet.

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DUDE.. I'm a friggin' FISH... like I don't KNOW this?

Contrary to popular belief, my douchetastic Scorp father did NOT tarnish Scorps for me - he is the EXCEPTION, the GREY LIZARD. I GET Scorps, on a very deep and profound level.. even if I joke about their obsessiveness and testing and revenge fantasies... (generally) Scorps are some of the most amazing people you will ever know. I STILL love every Scorp I ever loved! I just don't think I have enough Water in me to maintain a relationship with most Scorps for long - but maybe an Earthy one? *shrug*

If I can ever break the Libra Charm 😛

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

FreeToBe007: Lol I'm sorry you came in it late but I'm already done with my problem, I'm moving on ... so sorry you had to type all that... & I dont see why your calling me stupid I saw you thread too & might I say so myself your not so smart yourself.

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Hmm I had a libra guy after me and we went on one outing. Real cute guy, but really no attraction there. When he told me he had just gotten out of a 3 year relationship right away I told myself "Yeeeaaah that's not gonna work out." We remained friends and he kept trying to date my, but he eventually gave his ex a chance. I knew they wouldn't last, and they didn't. He now keeps going in and out of relationships and I just laugh every time that little heart pops up on facebook and just think "That could have been me he was breaking up with". Lucky for me I'm not attracted to libras 😉

Idk tho, I've been in hard situations like that. I've gone through so many trial and errors to realize that when those red flags are there you steer clear away, especially if you already have trust issues.

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@Emilyk1991
15 Years

Posted by Nefer
See what I mean? SO much easier to GIVE advice than to TAKE it 😄

Ughhh, I hate hypocrites , even though I may have my faults. I guess I hate that about myself too & being stubborn -___-