Update

Well well well.....thought I'd let you all know how last night went.

Hadn't heard from My Libra since the previous Friday, but we were meant to see eachother last night and I hadn't heard but finally just before midday he sent me THAT text I was hanging out for....not only one, but 10 texts throughout the afternoon. Needless to say we had a fantastic night again last night - talked, laughed and all that naughty stuff...man he's amazing in that department!!! He said he was going to a mate's birthday party tonight and that it would be relatively quiet but he was worried about what to do with his car as he'd be drinking (they were going straight after work - near his work). I jokingly said I'd come up and pick him up, take him home to my place and drop him off in the morning.....I couldn't believe my ears when he said "yeah, that might be an idea...would you wear a short skirt and come in to get me?" and I said "what would your friends say when I come in to pick you up?" and he said "well I would proudly say that's my girl and its about time I showed you off"...OMG!!!! Chatz's heart missed a few beats I can tell you that!!! We didn't make firm plans for me to pick him up though...wonder if he'll ask later today.

Worst part was I got a text late last night (much to my surprise) from a guy who is quite keen on me.....talk about bad timing!!! My Libra was quite keen in finding out who it was and I was totally honest that it was another guy....he didn't seem at all upset but must now surely have to realise that I won't wait around forever

This morning we were just talking (grrrrr@us both having to go to work) and he just mentioned something he remembered about me when we first met and I said "that's impressive"....then he rattled off absolutely everything he knew about me - there I was thinking he hadn't bothered to take it in!!! The things he had remembered— OMG!!! utterly stunned here!!! Anyway this morning he got up (I stayed in bed - lazy eh?? but he likes it when I do that as he hates me watching him leave) and came back when he was about to leave and just lay on top of me (man he's heavy too - imagine 6'5 man on top of you - sheesh!!!) for about 5 minutes snuggled into my neck just saying such nice things....OMG I am on cloud 9 again grrrrrrrr, especially when he said "Im so lucky to have you in my life"....OMG again!!!

About half an hour later he sent a text, I replied and then 2 more followed....he just keeps surprising me but damn those weeks with no communication - THAT i do not understand at all but Im 99.9% certain he's not seeing anybody else....so that's a plus and very comforting indeed. To send the texts though, it shows he's at least thinking of me once he's left...that to me is kinda endearing 🙂

I hate the inbetween times and everytime we do get together now (which isn't often enough I have to say) he confuses me more by doing and/or saying such nice things that you can surely understand my confusion when he doesn't feel the need to communicate in between....its like he's happy to have spent that time with me and he is fulfilled until the next time *shrugs*.....he's also asking to get together more often but still leaves it til the last minute and found out the hard way (last week) that I do have a life too and had to decline...he ended up staying home alone on that Friday night - OMG!!!!

He saves my texts on his phone - what's in that?? also my emails!!!

OK Im happy but wary at the same time.....he's certainly got my heart and he knows it....just doesn't know what to do with it....I think he's slowly coming round - what do you all think?

Yesterday before he sent that first text I was ready to walk away...now he's sucked me back in once again and no doubt a week of no communication is on its way, unless he asks me to pick him up tonight but I do doubt that as its a good 45 minute drive for me....he wouldn't want to "put me out" but he knows I would do it 😛

OK I've prattled on enough

Sounds to me like you've got him!

This is similar to the way my Libra and I started out....he was very sensitive to the idea of a girl pressuring him into a relationship (which I don't do). We are in the stage of being comfortable with each other and what we've got, however, we still have our time apart.

This might be a little insight for you: When I look back at when we were first seeing each other, it used to drive me MAD to not hear from him for 4 days to a week. It continued on that way for some time - he really wanted to see if I was going to freak on him for not wanting to be together all of the time. As soon as I calmed down on the inside and realized that I didn't need him, I could move on, or I could be with him and be happy during the "spaces" w/ friends or myself, he started getting serious. Now he calls pretty much every day.

Libras need to know that you will give them their independence inside of the relationship. So, my question for you is this: once you know where you stand with him (and it's where you want to be) do you think you'll be ok with a partner who likes his space?

OH MY CHATZ!! WOW! Things are going soooo great! He is really coming around huh... HIS GIRL— okay! I am not mad, what did you say to that? Things are going to work out girly! I am so proud of you. You're hanging in there and it is working itself out. You already know what I am going to say... be patient and then you will still just get a Libra MAYBE... but hey, have fun in the meanwhile with him.. 🙂 *smiles*

ammorocks thank you for that and yes I would be more than happy to have a partner who likes his space...especially after spending 6 miserable years with an overbearing gemini who had to be everywhere in my life!! There were times where I just didn't want to be around him and it was unhealthy for us to do EVERYTHING together.

I've shown my LIbran friend no insecurity in the inbetween times (you guys have dealt with that Im sorry LOL).

Ammorocks, how long did your back and forwards go on for? I'm almost at 4 months now but again, every time I do see him, we seem to be getting closer!!

Thanks Brats!!! What did I say?? I didn't have an answer to that remark but he made a point of looking at me very endearingly and must have just seen the look on my face - probably priceless to him LOL....he knows what he's doing to me and it seems to be giving him a wicked thrill.

I dunno if I will "get the man" so to speak but I am having an amazing time with him when I do actually see him....I just know that there is something there with him though...he won't say it but just by what he does, how he talks, the way he never wants to go when we're together, yada yada...yup Chatz is in love!!

As I remember, it was right around the 7-8 month mark that he really started talking seriously. However, he still does the "read between the lines" thing and there is a still a bit of back and forth going on. Not necessarily that he doesn't want to be in the relationship, but negotiating some of the factors involved.

right...hmmm ok well I think Im up for the challenge - he's so worth it 🙂 He's scared of getting involved as such and been burnt pretty badly a couple of times now in long term r/ships so I understand his fear but I think he's slowly "growing out of it"....thanks for the advice/info ammorocks....tis always great coming here and learning how to understand these guys!!!

Man he was in such good spirits yesterday and this morning - cannot believe how much it rubs off too!!!

And now another text!!!! This is freaking me out now LOL

Chatz,

Awesome, yeah it sounds like he is comming around to me. It looks like all of that time alone contemplating brought him around to liking the idea of you bing "his girl"....I have my fingers crossed for you.

Aqua,

Leo females are fine with the term "his girl", us air signs are really the only ones who are sensitive about that kind of assumptiveness/posessiveness. It makes a lot of other signs, leo and scorpio beam inside to hear those kind of words. After all, they do want to give themselves to someone and have that selflesness reciprocated. It's all good. I used to dislike that kind of possesive terminology but now I really appreciate it. I have been sliding a little from my "if you love it let it go" phillosophy on life and love and am taking on a bit of a "if you love it hold it close" mindset with the help of long conversations about life and love with a few friends 😉

Chatz, yeah my boy was burned in his past relationship too. I've had to really be patient about that. He told me that on our 2nd or 3rd date. He never said he didn't want to be in a relationship, but has said on occasion that he wasn't looking for a relationship when we met. To be truthful, neither was I. I myself was only 6 months out of a 3 1/2 year SERIOUS relationship when we met.

Nic, interesting that you say "we air signs" don't like the possessive language. I actually love it! It's kind of funny, my boy will hasn't ever introduced me as his "girlfriend" but as his "girl". I think it's endearing.

coolness chatz.... ^5

Chatz, I think you are so in there. Libra men need their space, it is like air to them. I know you just love being around them and want them there most time. However they too can want to be up under you as well for days at a time, however, in general they need there thinking time and like to do it alone at times. My ex was that way and because I like my space too I didn't mind. Friday nights would be guys and girls night every weekend. He and the boys and me and my girls... You need space sometime to keep the luv alive!!!

Saturday nights were ours and Sundays were household chores and getting ready for the week. Healthy social life is important.

QS....that routine sounds good...that's how I like things too. My ex didn't give me any space!!! and I have absolutely NO problem with that kind of scenario - I actually value my alone time now....my ex actually has a lot to answer for - all I can say is grrrrrrrr!!! Geminis!!!! LOL. He used to hover over me and be in my space at all times....sometimes I just wanted to go shopping on my own or with my friends but nup, he had to come along - awful!!! And this guy?? he hates shopping - Im on a winner there LOL

My LIbran is out with the boys tonight (as mentioned in the first post) so maybe its a good time for him to bounce things off of them...not sure if they do that with one another...I am so nervous though having to meet his friends!!! Im out of my comfort zone - yikes!!!

Thanks Nic for your advice/support - you've been so incredibly helpful - thank you 🙂 xx

Ammorocks...sounds like our situations are VERY similar....any other advice is gladly accepted thank you.

Thank you to you all

Hey - I'm a Gemini!!! Not all Gemini's are needy space hoggers! LOL!

We can be socially intense, but we're like that with everyone, not just our partners. For me - I have a lot of friends and value my time alone with them. Typically, we're hard to pin down. It's interesting that you had a Gem that was so clingy!

I would have been long gone with the gemini. Just take it with stride. You guys will be fine.

I on the other hand have a long way to go.

Queen, in my experience, Gems and Scorps are probably one of the WORST romantic matches. I have had a few scorp friends later in life that I get on with well. The Scorp guys I've dated have all been miserable experiences for us both though. And such good sex. Oh well.

Ammorocks, this particular Gemini was strange in many ways....there were more than 2 of him and his mother suffered from Bipolar and I believe he did too....when he was happy OMG it was great but draining coz he just wouldn't settle, but on the downers— awful, just awful and would last for weeks at a time, but did he admit it?? nup!!! He couldn't hold a friendship with anybody for longer than a month before he'd find faults that just weren't there.....he used to make friends within minutes of meeting (he had so much charm when he wanted to impress) but he'd lose them just as quickly with his behaviour and the crude things he would say out of his own insecurity...bad times! Why did I stay with him for 6 long years— I thought he'd change and I've only really understood how bad things were since I left him....goes to show once I got that space he no longer controlled me and I could see him for who he really was.

My father was a gemini and my brother is one, my boss is one........I don't have a problem with Geminis as such....but this one really ruined any potential leo/Gemini hook up for me LOL. No offence intended at all

ammrocks, I can't do the scorp guys either and I am a scorp.

Never attracted to a gemi in my adult life, but I have a best friend and my mom who are geminis and they rock. Coolest peeps.

Chatz - sounds like he is a little psycho, and we know these types come in all signs. He def took the Gem "dual personality" to a new level! Anyways, we're all on here b/c we love Libras, right?

Queen - tell me more about your take on Scorp guys - I'm curious!

Overall, I think Gems get along on a friendship level w/ all signs b/c we LOVE people, and we love to be social. In romantic situations I believe we can be misunderstood - similar to the way Libras often are. Aloof, flighty, wishy-washy....all of those things really just add up to a busy social life, a love of people in general and a sense of independence. If you can understand these things with an air sign, you're golden. Once we fall, we FALL.

Yeah ammorocks....he certainly wasn't quite the norm!! He had issues - kinda feel sorry for the next poor sucker but knowing him, there will always be one for him to cling onto LOL

Gawd a Gemini and then a Libra?? what am I doing to myself?? lol

Well, let's just hope the Lib is true to the air-sign mentality. If that's the case, you're good to go!

ammrocks,
Ok. my experience with Scorp guys... Hmmm. I have known a few and 2 that were attracted to me, but annoyed the hell out of me. In a way we were alike but other ways way different. They seemed way more possessive and controlling than my liking. As I mentioned previously, I have this independent side, where I want and need my own space (probably my sag rising and moon who knows) which, is probably what attracts me to Libras and them to me... Maybe even Tauruses. Who knows. Anyway. I did see a Libra/Scorp 10/23 a day before my b-day and it was definitely the Libra charisma side that attracted me. Then as soon as those scorp possessive and controlling and jealous signs came out I ran fast... Couldn't do it. However Scorpio men are very thoughtful and don't mind spoiling their mate. But they think you are a possession not an individual and I can't handle it.


I have heard and read that supposedly we scorp woman are like that as well, I know I have a jealous streek, however, I enjoy giving my man space, I think it is healthy for both parties... I don't possess but I do love deeply and with all of me and expect the same in return and if I don't feel I am getting that I leave. I have learned that all people don't love as intense as us scorps, however they love all the same. Something for me to work on.

Queen, that's the same thing I found. I'm kind of a funny creature, though, because I like my man to sometimes be somewhat possessive - maybe just a TINY jealous, or at least wondering. Then at other times I can't STAND it. I guess that's the Gem in me. It works out ok w/ a Libra though, b/c they are dual natured as well.

I haven't known any Scorp females to be as possesive as the guys, or at least they don't show it.

I agree, I don't think we scorp girls are as possessive as the guys... However, some people seem to think so.

OMG Chatz you sound too much like me!! Especially with the weeks of no communication. The Libra I know used to go away for like 6 weeks at a time and now he goes hours. But I'm a Capricorn.. so I'm sort of used to it anyhow.... the whole 'not being all mushy mushy' thing.

I'm so happy for you, though!

"Gawd a Gemini and then a Libra?? what am I doing to myself?? lol"

I don't get it, sounds like good 'ol progress to me.

"the whole 'not being all mushy mushy' thing."

He will eventually, it just takes a while before we are comfortable showing that side. He should be able to bring it out in you to quite surprising levels as well.

I will wait patiently then 🙂 LOL@good 'ol progress to me!!! LOL LOL LOL

Nic you keep giving me inspiration just when things start looking like well you know 😉
Surprising levels?? mmmmmm LOL

Caprichick...yeah there's a few of us in the same situation LOL.....the longest in between time has been 11 days but there were a few texts in amongst it so its only a few days at a time (but still annoying to say the least). I've been entrapped by my LIbran's charm for the past 4 months - oooooh to the day!!! so its not that long but I've come to realise that its best I just keep myself busy in that inbetween time (even though that's sooooooo hard some days) and let him contact me which of course he always does when he finally realises something or someone (in my case) is missing in his life. NOt the best scenario that's for sure and I don't know how much longer that can or will go on for as I truly do think I deserve better and life is too short for this wishy washy stuff but it keeps me sane trying to not worry about what he's doing, where he is, etc...most nights he's home anyway alone..strange!! but that's just the way it is. The other regulars on this board know how I've tied myself in knots from time to time but I've learnt a lot from them and a great deal of the advice has been invaluable to my situation. I hope you get just as much from being here 🙂

Being a Cappy and used to the not having mushy mushy thing?? wish I could be like that coz hmmm well Im a Leo and I do kinda like it from time to time as long as its not over-bearing.....but having said that, I doubt I'll experience mushy mushy from mine anyway...some days I come to the conclusion that its just me he isn't really into or he'd make more effort, then I go to remembering what he said about not being ready for a relationship at this stage and wondering why he hooked up with me in the first place if he didnt want one as he approached me, not the other way around....apparently we "clicked"....then I get even more confused and upset and the emotions go in cycles so I've consciously decided not to do that to myself anymore because I can almost guarantee he's not doing it to himself as i am probably not on his mind agt all except for when he wonders where I got to *sigh*...I dunno...he's done all the list of "signs" to look for but yet he's still aloof and still that little butterfly one can't catch!!

Gawd what a ride its been so far...Im sure that will continue...I should have listened when he said "you should run away fast" when I first met him....he must know and he picked the wrong girl to have a casual r/ship with that's for sure...Im hooked damnit LOL

Chatz..."been entrapped by my LIbran's charm for the past 4 months"

Dang Charming Libras! Dang it.. Dang it... Dang it.. inescapable 😢

yes but do we want to escape?? really?? 😉

Well I am reporting back about last night as requested......well what can I say but OMG yet again!!!! 😛

Had a blast...lots of laughing, lots of talking, lots of kissing and mmm mmm and again this morning he made the effort to just lay with me (fully dressed) and nuzzle into my neck saying all those nice things before kissing me goodbye and then a sweet little kiss on my forehead as if I was a child LOL....so cute!!

We connected last night - talked about work and how things are going with both our respective professions and he's dead keen on making "more money"....this has been a sudden desire for him so dunno whats in that but we talk about everything and anything and I feel so comfortable in doing so and normally somebody would have to know me pretty well for me to open up like I do with him. Im still in shock realising that I've had the pleasure of his company 3 times in just over a week LOL...this was just unheard of before!!! Sorry HP but Im sharing that cloud 9 for the time being 🙂

Lovely Chatz. Happy to hear!!! But, did you tell him your feelings— Tey always have a way of making you feel you are the most important person in the world and by the sound of things - you are 🙂.

Ummmmmm....*hides*....I couldn't but I think from some of the texts I'd written during the week he'd known Im a little insecure by the way he treated me last night (he was a little more clingier than normal)....I think he did a bit of reading between the lines and he should have too 😉 I just cannot bring myself to just telling him....bwak bwak bwak.

Im not sure whether he thinks Im the "most important person" but things are great when Im with him, he sees me more often now and he's open to seeing me on the spur of the moment, he's invited me to his house, he tells me everything, he's terribly honest with me - to a fault, how can I possibly screw that up?

What do I expect next? is he finally going to figure out that I do in fact mean more to him than he lets on?? and when on earth will this happen?? LOL...I mean, sheesh, just over 4 months now!!!

Bring out the crystal ball please!!!!!! 😛

Chatz, maybe it isn't necessary if you feel he gets the just of it. Glad to hear that the two of you are spending more time together and at the spare of the moment. Excellent sign!!!!

yeah I don't want to have THAT talk - I like the peace and harmony he brings into my life...and certainly don't want to destroy that by making him run 🙂

And yeah, love the spur of the moment stuff, THAT is how its meant to be 😛

OK, now I am not only jealous of HP, but now I am jealous of you... Maybe even Nic and Atom. Notice Atom hasn't been on here in a minute. Maybe the Libra love is blowing all over except in my direction ***Sobs*** ****jealous eyes role***

jealous eyes roll

awww sorry QS - don't mean to rub it in and I'll shut up now 🙂

Your time will come

Don't shut up. I know how it can be. I was with one for 8 years and the first 6 could never have been better. I will just live through your experience.

oh well in that case....nah, I won't torment but man he makes me feel good 😛

Just wish I could get that little hint that there will be more or whether he's still thinking "casual". *sigh*

Im impatient - Roar!!!

QS how long did you know the one you describe above before you married? Did you go through this long road too?

Awesome, Chatz!

That sounds very promising, I think... It is so hard to tell with some of these Libras, isn't it? But, it does sound promising, from a normal person perspective... 😉

I think he is thinking a lot less casual. More times a week... Clingier, whether to reassure you (which means he cares to reassure you) or not (which means it was for him)... Impromptu, rocking! Sounds like distinct progress.

Perhaps his fixation on making more money is significant of wanting to go further in the relationship, but wanting to be in the proper place to do so? Or perhaps to feel you out on your views and/or open-mindedness on the future? Or perhaps not... Haha! Damn... WTF? I like things so much more on the level. And, they say Scorps play games... Libras just confuse people so much when they do play games that they don't get caught. That's NOT FAIR!!! 😉

It is hard to tell Alcheme *rolls eyes* but yeah I do feel a little more confident that he spends so much more time with me.

The money thing? I dunno....he got screwed by his ex financially and I own my house, etc....I think he might feel he's not "good enough" in that way but Im so not like that.

I guess I'll know when Im in when I get to meet his daughter LOL....that'll be a test!!!

and *sigh* he's back on the singles sites again......confidence shattered once again. I don't get it 😢

Chatz, FIRST, I'm jealous! Lucky guy! Geesh! SECOND, the money thing most of the time, IMO, relates to SECURITY---he may be thinking he needs more SECURITY either to make him feel better about himself or for you two as a couple (fingers crossed for your sake) or, unfortunately OTHER plans. THIRD, I'm so upset with this guy (!). Doesn't he get it? GET OFF THE BLAMED SINGLES SITES! My Gosh! He has CHATZ here! What a Nimrod! I've been thinking about this. It's like a fisherman caught a mermaid but continues to fish! THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS GUY TO FISH OR EVEN BE CURIOUS ABOUT FISHING. Chatz, WHAT do you think he's doing? WHAT do you think his reasoning is? I'm asking for YOUR sake you know. HOW would he feel if YOU were trolling? Grrrr

thank you and I just don't know - the only thing that reassures me is that he's home every night unless he's seeing me or his daughter (and yes I have proof of that), and that he doesn't pick up from these sites from what I can see......he comes over on the spur of the moment, he's invited me over so he has nothing to hide, oh and he does not hide the fact he goes on there either....I cannot work it out and again, he has made no "commitment" to me in any way other than we hang out and have a grand time and he keeps coming back and asking me to....I just dunno....I think its a habit (from September, 2005) that he just can't break and that its just part of his routine *shrugs*....I sometimes think its just to relieve boredom from having lived alone for the past 2 years after a long r/ship but frankly I'd get so bored personally!!! aaaaaaand from what I can see the same women go on there day in day out also...boring!!! He even said to me the other day that its a pretty bad environment as a lot of women have partners and want to hook up with other men - he went into great detail as to why so many couples just don't work out because of places like the internet, etc...and there he is!!!

And yeah he has Chatz!! and come on, its been 4 months already!!! I am gonna make myself busy again (here we go again)...I know he'll be back soon - now that we've spent so much time together recently, perhaps he'll realise what he's really missing out on. To be honest, I would have thought he'd become bored of me by now if he only wanted "casual"....I shrug at it all. I know you think I should have THAT talk but I just can't 😢

*Goes back to work*

Chatz, from reading your posts, he'll never be bored with you. And you may be right, it may be a habit of his. Not sure why you don't want to have the talk, but that's up to you. I guess if a nice woman I was into was doing this I would have walked. (Here's another thing: the time he's taking to check out single sites is time he's taking away from being with you. I don't get it!).

Here's another thing: I LOVE Leo ladies and there never seem to be enough around! They are a rare commodity in my opinion. So if you put yourself out there again you would certainly draw interest. Maybe even another Libra! (HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!!)