Check it out Libras/QS/N - whats my next move!!!!!

You all are awesome - so today I was reading all your threads - I was thinking about my "Friends Only" Libra man. love my hair played with so texted him asking if the next time we saw each other, he would play with my hair of course I added the friends thing. He answered "OK", right away I might add like within seconds after I texted it.

I "Winked" back. Bet a dinner on the Superbowl, Im for the Colts of course, just thought Id add that in. Anyways he said ok on the dinner bet also. He did a few little cutesy remarks.

So, here's the deal - how long should I wait to re connect, and should I wait to see if he gets back with me on the dinner bet thing? I dont want to make a wrong move.

Ok, looking at this with my carnal eye and not my emotions. He could actually take you up on both of those...

I can't remember your story though...
Have the two of you been intimate?
How long have you known him?
Are you really just friends and you want more or are you FWB?
I need a little more insite.

LOL and welcome to the rollercoaster ride - it has only just begun!!!

Yeah we need more detail.

QS - we started dating, he came on strong for a while I kind of was into another guy so didnt really care if he called or not, then got hooked, we hooked up once, which he said was just cause we were both horney, so he wanted us to go back to justing dating which I was ok with, he said I was too classy for him, I said fine if you dont want to see me anymore, but he kept saying no (it was a joke cause I am an honest scorp and mentioned I was dating other guys, so he kept bring that up, saying he needed to find other girlfiends also) he kept saying I was keeping something from him, anyways to make a long story short, I might have gotten too pushy, wanting to see him every weekend and making comments on it, so I had to pin him down after 3 wks of not hearing from him and he said "for right now I see us only being friends, we butt heads". I said fine, there it is, and Ive been pondering if he really wanted to be friends or just a nice brush off. WEve know each other only 7 months. It might just be my scorp conquering problem, I always want what i cant have. lol

As far as FWB, I have mentioned that to him to think about it. Everytime we see each other platonically after that friends discussion, he always wants to get a hug, long hug and kisses, no tongue, but like cuddling type.

If I chicken, out do you think he'll still be friends? I do not think he has any real women friends, except for his buddys wives. He has mentioned he doesnt even talk to his x's.

Hmmm, I now kind of remember the story. A Libra not wanting to shag a scorp is weird... Even if he wasn't ready or didn't want a relationship with you, they always seem to want to shag a scorp.

He hugs and kiss, no tongue. It sounds like he really likes you, but doesn't think you guys would be a good fit, because of the clashing. I used to be pushy, controling and only wanting my way, but I have been working on it and gotten so much better. I now try to accept things the way they are. When I know what they are.

We scorps sometime want to change a situation into what we want rather than seeing it for what it is.

Keep him as a friend and who knows what the future holds, but if your feelings are in it like mine have recently become for my friend. It could be hard. One day at a time...

About the playing in the hair... He might be ready to shag now. Maybe not. I just can't see a Libra touching a woman they are attracted to and not wanting to take it further. Normally you would have to fight them off.

Him not talking to his ex's and not having a lot of female friends raises red flags for me. A single Libra lacking in female friends is going through something. Both of those traits are natural in Libra guys.

It sounds to me like your clashing could be a good dose of sexual frustration. We are innately suspicious around female scorpios so his attitude towards the whole thing was one of questioning you and who else you were seeing and all that. We CAN get a little sexually insecure around scorpio girls, I don't know why exactly but if I were to guess it would be your confidence in your femininity. Makes us feel like you aren't discretionary enough with it until we get to know you. We love how you are easy around us but until we understand you can't help thinking you are like that with everyone you meet. Libra girls are usually assumed to have been with more people than they have, it gets taken to a whole nother level with Scorpio women. A scorpio girl can have the sexual record of a nun on paper and still have people around you thinking that you get around.

I so second that Nic. When I was in my late teens, peers swore I was having sex. Embarrassed to say, I know this will be a shocker to most. I was 23 when my virginity was broken... I thought I was too good to give up my goodies to the few american guys I knew in Israel, wasn't attracted to Israelis at all. It took extreme horniness and an ex-fiance from chi town to get me. I was so glad when I did, and angry because I waited so long after I found out what I was missing.

He was a pisces and a great lover. Lucky me. Too emotional for even me the scorp. A cheating hore too.

As usual great advice - what about the red flags? ARe all libras pretty much the same?
I never thought about the intimidation thing on the sex, but he sure does talk about it alot, always used to ask me what the craziest/kinkyest thing Ive done sexually.

Well, the chemistrty between Libra and Scorpio is very sexual, and it will always be the underlying motive of initial attraction. The Libra male is an innately highly sexual sign, and so is the Libra female, possibly the most sexual signs male and female in the zodiac. Not to mention the well known next sign carnal attraction and it becomes a theme in the relationship that is hard to avoid. They bring out the carnal desire of each other. Libra guys are normally diplomatic, compromising and romantic. When with a Libra female we become direct, stubborn and overtly sexual. It is because the Libra being a masculine sign representing enlightenment and Scorp female being natively femanine and the representation of outward suspicion we are helplessly drawn to each other and always seem to have the underlying motive of bringing the other into our world so to speak. Toxically blissful combination.

* A Libra not wanting to shag a scorp is weird

It isn't really weird. She was too controlling of him. The fact that he used the words "butt heads too much" says a lot. BTW, I try to avoid sex with Scorps. The flirting lead up is good, then when things actually start happening ... I get bored. (Sorry. I have tried more numerous times. I don't find Scorps sexually compatible with me at all. Then again I don't have any earth and very little water in my chart.)

Shirley

I find it really odd that you would look to a friend and ask for that type of intimacy. I am referring to the hair touching. You may not see this, but telling him you want him to touch your hair etc. is controlling behavior.

I sincerely believe you two clash too much.

Just let him be him. Busy yourself with other things and see if he comes back.

Sometimes the best way to get a guy to step forward is for you to step back.

LS, Libra women and Libra men are clearly different. Look at your comments compared to Nic's and because I myself have been involved with my share of Libra men,THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TOO RESIST A SCORP WOMAN and that is without me even trying, before I decide if I even like them or not. It may be different for a Libra girl and Scorpio man. Believe me Sorp girl/guys are totally different as well.

Soooo. Shirley, I think LS advice on letting him be him is great. I also agree that you might have been pushy and too controlling.

Just let it ride... Wait and see... All we all can do...

BTW, LS, no offense, you do give sound advice, it just seems like when we ask about Libra males, you and other Libra females seem to come up with total opposite advice than thelibran and Nic. We are asking the Libra male's point of view. Again, you still give good advice in general

"should I wait to see if he gets back with me on the dinner bet thing? I dont want to make a wrong move."

I know I'm not a Libra, QS, or Nic...but I have some experience in this, so I'm going to give input.

First of all, you laid the bet down. Neither one of you can pay up on the bet until after the SuperBowl (Go BEARS), so just lay low. If you remind him more than once about the bet, then you'll appear desperate. I made a bet with Mr. Libra that the Texans would lose the game he was going to. They have a record of 1 -10. Guess which game they won? The one I bet they would lose. So I waited for him to call me to pay up on the bet.

"LOL and welcome to the rollercoaster ride - it has only just begun!!!
Yes, welcome to the theme park.

"mentioned I was dating other guys, so he kept bring that up, saying he needed to find other girlfiends also) he kept saying I was keeping something from him, anyways to make a long story short, I might have gotten too pushy, wanting to see him every weekend and making comments on it

Ok here you contradict yourself. If you're stayig busing seeing other guys, why were you so demanding of his time on the weekends? Either he saw through it and figured you were trying to make him jealous or you got too clingy to him and he thought he was better than any of the other guys you were dating. My instinct tells me that you only told him you were dating other guys just to try to make him step up to the plate and/or make him feel jealous.

"As far as FWB, I have mentioned that to him to think about it. Everytime we see each other platonically after that friends discussion, he always wants to get a hug, long hug and kisses, no tongue, but like cuddling type.
Shirley, I guess you didn't read any of my stories about me and Mr. Libra. We tried the FWB thing and we both couldn't do it. When we see it other, Mr. Libra still hugs me, holds me, kisses me, sits down on the sofa and pulls me close to him while I'm standing up, stuff like that...BUT WE ARE JUST FRIENDS and that's all he can be right now....blah blah blah blah blah....

"Normally you would have to fight them off. True. Very true. Look back to my story from last night.

Shirely, just ride the wave. Don't be too domineering or pushy. If you've read our posts, one thing you should have picked up on is that Libra men MUST BE THE ONES IN CONTROL. If they lose that control, they lose balance and it scares them.

* staying busy

*When we see each other.


crap, can't type this morning. got my nails done yesterday.

I think it is because nic and thelibran are invested on a personal level. I think they think in terms of what they want a specific person to do. They don't look at it objectively because it is, in someways, it is about them.

I could be wrong. (and don't forget, I am the most libra person on the planet. lol!)

* Believe me Sorp girl/guys are totally different as well

Actually, I disagree with this. I know many, many, Scorps of both genders.The majority of my friends are Scorp. Some of my best, are female Scorps. The only male friends I have ever really have had are Scorps. There is a very similar sensitivity and vunerability to both. I personally believe Scorps of both genders to very giving and selfless. I really love Scorpies ... just don't think they are sexually compatible with me. 'Cause God knows I've tried. (Once they have had a taste, they tend to obsess about me sexually for YEARS and I tend to think ... whatever. I tend to do it for them, they tend to not do nothing for me because they don't understand me.)

Leos, on the other hand, ... O. M. F. G.

** Mr. Libra still hugs me, holds me, kisses me, sits down on the sofa and pulls me close to him while I'm standing up, stuff like that...BUT WE ARE JUST FRIENDS and that's all he can be right now....blah blah blah blah blah....

It has been said that Libras are very empathic. We just doubt our abilities. What I have noticed is I change personalities around different lovers. I become their fantasy.

I have noticed that I will be very affectionate and loving with someone who I love as a friend, but when they are out of sight they are pretty much out of mind ... till something causes me to remember.

I am not saying this to be mean. It isn't even a conscious thing. It just happens. I have no control over it. It is also why Libras are considered the chameleon of the zodiac. We change who we are so you will be happy in our presence. And, we have no control over it.

Yeah ... Libras love sex. I can get very, very sexually aggressive to the point of shocking everyone around me if it has been awhile. I think this is a huge part of why libras need permenant mates. Our sex-drives over ride our common sense if left too long. It is also why a libra will appologize for having sex with you.

on a footnote to that, mr. libra must have been thinking about me...i got a text message from him this morning. heheheee he asked how my "date" was.

i replied with "Good morning back to you. date was fine. i'll tell you more about it when i leave his house 😉"

no response...

* Good morning back to you. date was fine. i'll tell you more about it when i leave his house

lol!

Good on you HP. He is going to HATE that.

🙂

well if he wants to BE jealous, I have to give him SOMETHING to be jealous about...

BTW, it wasn't a date that I had last night - just went to the movies with a friend.

Ls, Scorp gir/boys have very similarities, however very different. I am one and also have a couple scorp guy friends. Could never date them though. Every last Libra man that I have known love Scorp woman sexually and that always seems to be the highlight of their relationship (even outside my personal experiences), that could be bad. So it is obviously different for libra girls and scorp guys, however I haven't known any Scorp guys w/Libra girls, except one and he said he the libra girl didn't actually do it for him at all... So, again, it must be different the other way around. I am sure every libra man who has this great sexual, emotional and long lasting friendship after relationship with the scorp girl are not clones, including nic and thelibran...

I am going by my experience with them as well as people I know, as are you, are experiences are clearly different.

HP, you don't have to be Nic or a Libra male to share what you have learned from actually being in a similar situation, but none of us can be 100 percent sure why they do what they do, or we wouldn't be on these threads... Good job with Mr. Libra keep it up, before you know it you might have him eating out the palm of your hand, even if you aren't sure you want him to.

*** our experiences are clearly different ***

🙂

HP what is your sign? LS, I would love to be with Libra male#1 only because ive spent 8 hrs at a time with him and we've always connected, had a blast. not to mention, they are just nice, damn it. my mom is a libra, so Im the one who picked him up, he did not pick me, just followed my lead. anyways, i get along great with her, better than the rest of my siblings, so when i found out he was a libra I said, OK

So, if libras have to be in control, why did he respond to me in the first place after I chased him.

Im afraid if I lay low, he will just forget, like you say. I read somewhere it said in a scorp/libra relationship, if one doesnt seem interested, the other will just walk away. If I seem not interested, he might just walk away. So, I try to keep it open but light, maybe he will fall in love with me. heehee. you see, its hard to read guys sometimes, and after reading that i tended to make sure he knew i cared which was the wrong thing. As far as dating other guys, that is a scorp thing until they find that one special person. Wasnt trying to make him J. Correct me if Im wrong QS but scorps, tend to try, and try and get fed up and just drop it never to look back.

sorry, im writing fast cause at work. lol

Shirley, of course I am a scorp... Who Libra men seem to find every where I go... Was married to one for 6 years. Been involved with about 4 others now.

OK. They are great men in their own right. Great sex matches for us. However, there is a technique to getting them to chose you and that is always scary and iffy.

With my ex. We met he initially persued me (they all initially persue)I liked him, started as casueal FWB (By the way I was seeing other people at the time), then I went through all this drama that the girls on this post is going through.. Like you said we get tired and walk away. The minute you do the Libra will feel he is no longer in control of the situation and come running. That is what happened with us and we eventually moved in with eachother, got engaged, got married, had a beautiful little girl, going through divorce.

Since then 3 encounters with, you guessed it Libras... One actual FWB involvment...

Just don't smother them, you have let him know you are interested. Now it is time to back off. If he is truely interested he will return. If not move on. This is how I am playing it.

My situation is different, one I have never had before.. This guy is my friend, we have become very close outside of the shagging. So I have a friend to lose if it gets ugly. Don't know if I want to risk the possibility. I am attracted to him and the sex is way too good! However, I will just keep that too myself for awhile and concentrate on some things I need to do for me.

* BTW, it wasn't a date that I had last night - just went to the movies with a friend.

He doesn't need to know that. 😉

Shirley, I'm Taurus.

LS, no he doesn't need to know..that's why he thinks i'm still on my date 14 hours later...

LS which one of us has the better chance to snag a libra , the taurus or the scorp? i know QS has had several, what about you HP?

In my experience, the leo. lol!

I don't see it as a competition. I just seem to have been attracting my generous share of Libras lately. If one works out, then great. If not, I'm enjoying the theme park admission.

enjoying? lol!

You are very generous HP. 🙂

from my observations, Taurus and scorpio are similar in a lot of way, but Taurus are more laid back and go with the flow kind. At least with my observations, i've seen scorpios are "I want this now" and I'm just "eh, he'll come around. if not, then screw him"

again my observation, hopefully I don't tick off any scorpios because you know i love ya.

just curious what the scales girl thinks as she is close to the one's we are trying to love. lol er which sign the libra gal gets along with, hey, LS my mom is a libra married to a leo. They still are married but i can remember they fought so much i had to hide under the bed. she still complains most of the time about him, but i know she couldnt do without him and visa versa.

i also read scorps and libras get along if scorps try to let the libra go once in a while (to do their own thing) and libras not try to put down the scorps too much. my libra guy friend always teases me, when i asked him why he said he couldnt explain, just i was the only women he's ever done that with, guess he was having fun at it. it was kind of like a playful bantor, if you will.

you are sooo right HP. i know a taurus with guy problems and i say, just call him, she says no way, dont care.

Leo men are dreamy and dead sexy. They have a sexual confidence that just floors me and drags me in .... by the hair. They usually attack when you aren't looking. It is quite, quite hot.

I think Leo/Libra bring out the best in each other. Kind of like Virgo/Scorps. We just have very similar needs so we can pour affection, compliments, fun, play into each other. We know how to spur each other on. Yes, we drive each other crazy, but I think the two signs generally love each other as long as other things in the chart are compatible.

Shirley, I think you're investing too much of your heart into this. He's told you that the two of you butt heads and that you are better off as just friends. When was the last time HE initiated contacted with you?

And I am not saying that to be mean - I'm saying that because I've been there and hindsight is almost always 20/20 looking back.

From watching a Scorp girl in a close relationship with a Libra man and my own experience dating Scorp men, I found there was too much misunderstanding and too many power issues.

The Scorp girl would see things as power struggles and control issues, when they weren't any. I have found Scorp men would presume they knew what I wanted EVEN WHEN I said (and meant) the opposite of what they were presuming. They would just disregard what I would say.

As much as I love my best friend, I noticed with the Libra she dated she wasn't her loving, giving, generous self. She would withhold to get control. In the end, she became fixated with control and he started rebelling. (Although, she usually claimed he was.) The whole thing exploded and both were left broken-hearted. He is still shattered by it. She ended up marrying someone else.

I think Scorps/Libras have a beautiful love and friendship, but when things turn romantic, we just don't get each other enough to truly trust the other's nature.

The fact that he is saying butt heads does ring in my head. He might care about you, be attracted to you, but we don't like power struggles at all. We generally just want to have fun. Power grabs make us uncomfortable.

"You may not see this, but telling him you want him to touch your hair etc. is controlling behavior. "

I didn't think of it that way but now that you mentioned it I have to agree. Good observation. I think it is probably telling fo their relaitonship as a whole. It does seem like for what he was getting out of your relationship at this point he was having to do a lot more work (i.e. submitting to the way you wanted things) and his comment about butting heads is a symbol of his frustration with you.

You telling him that you want him to touch you is a whole lot different than you wanting to touch him. Especially if LS is right about it up to this point. You can't control a Libra guy, however if you don't try to, they will do anything you want. If you want any real intimacy from him your going to have to play into his desires equally, and likely first at this point. Not talking about sex persay, but to him as a person.

Two things could happen if you don't, if he is both confident in himself and frustrated he is going to start feeling like he is owed something after all of this, will find a way into your pants and will sleep with you and walk away to show you and himself that he will not be manipulated, or he will just make a graceful exit. By graceful I mean he is going to do wtf he wants to do and your going to be forced to be ok with it. We will submit in the beginning just to show you we are interrested and we are serious about our feelings but once the ball gets rolling, we start to take the lead...and we are pretty clever and flexible about the way we do it.

If you are interrested in this guy you might want to start off with an apology for the way things have been up to this point including reasons for your behavior and explain what your actual expectations were, are now and why they are different. We don't like high maintenance relationships if you haven't noticed yet 😉

We are as empathetic to our partners feelings as humanly possible and we know it, conversly we don't take to kindly to people taking advantage of this. So....what do you actually want from him?

Mr. demus knows what he's talking about.

"Power grabs make us uncomfortable."

^^^^^^ Listen to these words, spot on.

If you force us into a position of displaying power you won't like what we see. We know we are powerful people and we feel that outright displays of power or attempts at displaying power is tactless and tasteless. We truely believe that a person only has as much power over us as we give them and the butting heads comment hints at this.

You have to be gentle with a Libra, not because we can't take it otherwise but because we don't WANT to deal with it otherwise.

True, Nicky